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Wednesday, 2 May, 2007

  • Newsnight
  • 2 May 07, 07:01 PM

Plaid Cymru leader Ieaun Wyn JonesThe last day of campaigning across the country as we prepare for voting in English local, Scottish parliamentary and Welsh National Assembly elections. Paul Mason is out and about and we speak to the leader of Plaid Cymru.

Plus: Blair rules out bomb plot inquiry; Israel's PM told to resign; and the .

Jeremy presents - your thoughts below please.

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  • 1.
  • At 11:04 PM on 02 May 2007,
  • AM wrote:

On the USA revolution vs the current Iraqi civil war - perhaps a better comparison would be the Anglo-Irish War of 1919=1920? I'm studying A-level history and today the links between Ireland's past and Iraq current situation seemed to be jumping off the page. Quickly they both seem to include a Prime Minister who's power was waning due to a more rebellious cabinet, the refusal of the government to recognise the true nature of the situation, the national press who had turned against the violence and a small but determined group or rebels/terrorists who use guerilla tactics to win a propaganda victory more than a military success? It's just a though but perhaps it doesn't bode to well for the short-term future

  • 2.
  • At 11:06 PM on 02 May 2007,
  • Mair wrote:

Is there any chance that Newsnight will ever spell the name of Ieuan Wyn Jones correctly?

The points raised on France are all valid are relevant, but boy am I glad not to be paying taxes there as they would go to paying the salary for a cultural attaché to go on Newsnight and say she likes the UK better. In corporate life, that would be like the Pepsi spokesman saying openly she'd rather be drinking Coke…

  • 4.
  • At 11:57 PM on 02 May 2007,
  • A Voting Nota. wrote:

....VOTES: VIRTUES OF TODAY'S ECONOMIC SATISFACTIONS?

...our majorities don't want to support minority employment interests anymore..

The minority self interested should stop fighting us... or they might get the only treatment available...

....VOTES: VIRTUES OF TODAY'S ECONOMIC SATISFACTIONS?

Class Conflicts that councils can't deal with...the motivations for our votes...who is who in the voting world...a full breakdown might be useful...how will they allocate the voting share...

Reconciliationists ruining lives because their beliefs aren't valued..

Transactionalists who want the satisfaction of getting what is wanted done..

Opportunists

Self servers

Customisers

Trivialisors

...Is anyone doing the job of intermediary..there should be pot of money for it...

...the majorities don't want to support minority employment interests such as self serving doctors police teachers etc... only workabillity should be paid for...

The minority self interested should stop fighting us... or they might get the only treatment available...


  • 5.
  • At 12:11 AM on 03 May 2007,
  • vikingar wrote:

Enjoyed tonights French Connection.

A reality check for our dewy eyed socialists.

Dreams have to be paid for comrades :)

vikingar

Another 20/10 for Jeremy tonight - when talking to Vince Cable, he told them they [the Lib Dems] were a bunch of tarts who would be all things to all people - ha ha ha ha ha!Excellent with Francis Maude, Ieuan Wyn Jones too as well as the debate on the Iraq war with General Sir Michael Rose & David Rivkin. Outstanding stuff. Can't wait for Thursday's installment!!!! :-)

  • 7.
  • At 01:38 AM on 03 May 2007,
  • John wrote:

Vince Cable seemed to enjoy being labled a tart, something for further investigation?

  • 8.
  • At 12:18 PM on 03 May 2007,
  • csharp wrote:

EH? Suddenly the political drone zone ended and there was totty in convertables smoking cigars seeking adventure. Was this an ad for a new late night series i thought? slowly it dawned it was just the 'newsnight sisters' helping us get in touch with our feelings...about France. Did i have any feelings about France? I don't know but i didn't care. All i could hear is the

'Newsnight Sisters Song' [set to three little maids from school -mikado]

Two little maids from the beeb are we,
Pert as a beeb-girl well can be,
Filled to the brim with girlish glee,
Two little maids from the beeb!

Everything is a source of fun. (chuckle)

Nobody's safe, for we care for none! (chuckle)

Life is a joke that's just begun! (chuckle)....etc

so what did i learn?
That french women would rather vote for an ugly lardy comic with piercings and face tatoos and who wears big boots? (chuckle)

  • 9.
  • At 11:11 PM on 03 May 2007,
  • Laurent wrote:

Hello,

Can I ask you why my comment on the report about France, wasn't posted? Could this be because I had a good point?...

Many thanks,

Laurent

  • 10.
  • At 01:16 AM on 04 May 2007,
  • Jenny wrote:

What a charming little trip, and chat your Culture Correspondent and the Culture Attache of the French Embassy in London experienced. But how utterly middle-class and self-indulgent! Apparently even drove the open-top all the way down from London to the Dordogne. A French one, of course. No carbon-saving TGV for those ladies. They didn't actually collect money for the trip too, I hope?

I might have forgiven their spree if either of them had shown the slightest sense for journalism. Might the position of women in French business life, and the dilemma of a woman candidate for the presidency, not be connected to France never having had a female head of state, ever, whilst England has had numerous, superb women crowned heads. It was simply never permitted. Try to imagine England without Elizabeth I, Victoria or Elizabeth II in our history, instead just scheming mothers and wives and mistresses, all only in a position to exert and influence because of their looks and their clothes!

France operates under the same EU equality directives as the rest of us, so what do their sex-equality body say about how it is for women in the workplace, and in politics there? How is it for women in the factory that made that Peugeot Cabriolet? Do they all pop pills to be slim, have to be women before they are workers, not drink? Will they not vote for Ségolène Royal (who is, remember, a socialist) because they are jealous of her looks and success?

But then France's function is to be the alternative universe, an entrancing warning, and I cannot pretend that the piece won't be secure in my memories, and digital archive, for saying something interesting about women in a stylish manner, and for being about France. I know I shall replay it many times on bleak English evenings when drunken, overweight women (and men), boys and girls (children of some of the best in the land) are winding their noisy way down the streets outside.

  • 11.
  • At 09:41 PM on 04 May 2007,
  • Jenny wrote:

And my comment on the French report hasn't appeared either, some 18 hours after submission.

  • 12.
  • At 02:04 PM on 07 May 2007,
  • Adrienne wrote:

For an alternative perspective on why the Developed World's passion for gender equality and Equal Opportunity etc may *not* be in its long term best interests, see readers' comments (especially towards the end) after the main article referenced below.

It goes without saying that this is an extremely sensitive (and potentially fraught) issue, but the logic of it seems inescapable, so we surely need to spend far more of our present human capital on trying to find a more workable solution than just trusting to nature and the free-market? Failure to do so can only make the situation worse for future generations of (especially, but not exclusively) our daughters.

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