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Posted by moose (U2611801) on Wednesday, 2nd January 2008
just are wondered if any of you are interested in contributing to a boat thread ?
I am co-owner with OH of a Bayliner 2455 based at Wroxham on the Norfolk Broads.It is currently winterised so roll on March for the 2008 season !
Just replying so you don't feel no one saw the message, Elisa. Tusher sails, so she may join you when she has time. A small message in the Bull to direct people to a boat thread in TVH could bring other like minded people on board [so to speak!]
Well I have zero time for hobbies at the moment, but when I do, i like boats very much. Used to crew a keelboat on Rutland Water, sailed a bit on father-in-law's boat, (but won't do that anymore because he was obnoxious and shouted at me last time)
O/h and I chartered a yacht in the Cyclades for our honeymoon, which was wonderful.
So I'll keep an eye out if this becomes a regular fixture in the Village Hall.
Helen
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Posted by Solly-its-shutting-down Sid (U2337718) on Thursday, 3rd January 2008
Hello sailor! If we are in Ambridge then it will be on the village duckpond. I do a little coastal cruising (not racing) if that qualifies me.
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Posted by Solly-its-shutting-down Sid (U2337718) on Thursday, 3rd January 2008
Helen, please don't be put off because he shouted at you. That's what many skippers do. Swearing too.
In some cases it's frustration because you can't read his mind, in others it's because he's failed to give you sufficient training, then again it could be shear frustration because things haven't gone the way he would have liked.
Remember men generally can't multi-task as well as women. If a man is still learning his job as skipper, it is very difficult for him to train a crew at the same time.
When we bought our boat and I pursuaded O/H to come out with me, we had much the same thing. After we came in and put the boat to bed, we sat down over a cuppa and discussed what went wrong, what (if anything) went right and how we could improve things. Slowly we got better.
Glad you didn't give up completely and that you manage (apparently without the same problems) with your O/H.
signed, "amateur yachty skipper."
Thu, 03 Jan 2008 21:43 GMT, in reply to elisamoose in message 1
I do a bit with boats, and would look in on any boating thread with interest.
Trouble with our boating at the moment is time - my OH has had to work abroad unfeasible amounts recently - we spent 3 weeks on our yacht in Greece last summer and that was a window of tranquillity.
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Posted by Orsen Trapp Not An Ingredient (U2273997) on Thursday, 3rd January 2008
I think there was a boaty thread somewhere here last year. No idea where it went as it's not in my conversations list.
I've spent most of my life messing about in small boats. Only in spare time, not as a job. Not particularly good at it but can handle oars, sails and outboards! Would love to have sufficient time/money to cruise but at least I live by the sea and can be by/on water regularly.
Thu, 03 Jan 2008 22:15 GMT, in reply to Orsen Trapp, back in harness in message 7
Elisa- thanks for starting the boating thread again, although at the moment, all I can do is dream of longer days.
Although I would love to sail, Mr Tusher is firmly of the opinion that any structure where the wall becomes the ceiling has a design flaw, and I have been unable to change his mind (so far). We have a much loved Hardy Navigator.
Oddly enough, we were just talking about the boat over dinner, so I was delighted to find this thread. We take her out of the water (we moor on a sea loch) early November, and we'll put her back in mid April. We'd love to own a bigger boat (well, who doesn't?) and leave her on the loch 12 months a year, or else maybe trade down to another Shetland, where we could launch as needed. There aren't many days in winter when we have the time or the daylight, but a calm loch on a winter's day, with hot chocolate on the stove, and a fish biting your bait, is very special.
We use the boat mainly to fish, sleep and little else, but I dream of cruising around the west coast one day.
And we are very lucky to live 10 minutes away from the mooring as well.
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Posted by barefoot choirmistress (Grade 1 listed status at present but soon to be partly demolished. The wrecking ball has started its upward swing, ready to demolish my name) (U2220849) on Thursday, 3rd January 2008
Thu, 03 Jan 2008 22:24 GMT, in reply to Orsen Trapp, back in harness
we are boaters - sailing and small dory.
did anyone see Griff - 3 men in a boat - I love that boat!
Thought the race was a bit odd - surely if you sail on the Solent you know where the marks are - and also Josephine would surely never have let them in at that first mark.
bc
Thu, 03 Jan 2008 22:26 GMT, in reply to barefoot choirmistress in message 9
Saw the first part, choirmistress, and thoroughly enjoyed it.
The boat was gorgeous, wasn't it? Did they ever reveal how much she was worth?
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Posted by Orsen Trapp Not An Ingredient (U2273997) on Thursday, 3rd January 2008
[waves at Tusher - how're you doing?]
In theory, we could launch our boat any nice day in winter. In practice, we don't. It's just too cold by the time we've launched, been out, got frozen ... then we have to get the bloomin' thing back on its trailer and tied on before we can go home to warm up!
A boat with a heater, though ....
Maybe I'm just getting soft in my old age. I used to be happy enough about kayaking in winter, but somehow that's warmer than sitting in a cockpit doing very little.
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Posted by carrick-bend (U2288869) on Thursday, 3rd January 2008
Thu, 03 Jan 2008 22:39 GMT, in reply to Orsen Trapp, back in harness in message 11
A boat with a heater, though ....Â
We put in an Eberspacher diesel heater into the little yacht almost 19 years ago, when we took our tiny baby away on the boat, and when we came back from the pub there was frost on the dinghy.
It's great - not only can you get warm, but it drives off that dampness you get down below when the weathers cold and wet.
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Posted by Solly-its-shutting-down Sid (U2337718) on Thursday, 3rd January 2008
Lovely looking boat. One good thing about that film - there's somebody worse than us!
As regards the "race", Josie's crew should be ashamed of themselves. Griff's gang not pulling together, didn't know what they were doing, got lost on the course then almost caught up. Josie's lot knew the course and the marks, they had practiced until it was second nature, and only just beat the idiots.
Griff's "skill" on the radio suggests to me he shouldn't be out there.
Coming into the pontoon, "Jump!" NO! If the crew can't simply step ashore then the helmsman has got it wrong, stick a fender in and wait for the bang. The accidents which are caused by crew jumping ashore!
glad to see there are others who pour money into water !
we went down to the boat today just to check her over.She is winterised atm and having some work done on her --fixing navigation lights and a new toilet!
Can't wait for march when we can get back out there.Only problem is the 2 hour drive to get to the boat.We have investigated a mooring nearer to home but they are all on boring fen rivers whereas the Broads always feels like a holiday.
Sat, 05 Jan 2008 22:20 GMT, in reply to elisamoose in message 14
Depends what you want her for though, Elisa. Sometimes I feel we miss out on potentially good weather jsut because we're so close. There's always something else to do (isn't there always?)whereas if wehad a two hour drive, we would certainly make it worth our while and go out for longer on her.
I love sleeping over on the boat, whereas Mr Tusher is not so keen, although the best fishing and the calmest weather is often at dawn.
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Posted by Solly-its-shutting-down Sid (U2337718) on Saturday, 5th January 2008
Careful you don't fall into the trap - "We've come all this way to go sailing, so we're going sailing, come hell or high water!" So many lives have been lost that way. It is the brave skipper who says, "The weather's wrong, we're not going out even though we've come all this way." An unpopular decision, but all are still alive next day.
We are fortunate - just under an hour from the boat, and retired, so if there's a cloud in the sky or the trees are bending too far, then there's all tomorrow not touched yet.
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Posted by carrick-bend (U2288869) on Saturday, 5th January 2008
Sat, 05 Jan 2008 23:15 GMT, in reply to Solly Sid in message 16
Absolutely - it's one thing to have to get to port (or just survive) unforecast or unavoidable bad weather, but another entirely to put your crew at risk by taking risks, or not interpreting the available information properly.
So many bad decisions come from the "We have to be back at work by Monday, so we're making the voyage home on Sunday" mentality - many's the time when the long-range forecast has looked dodgy, so we've left on the Friday, when the weather seemed perfect, still.
Sometimes you get caught out, but you keep trying to get it right. (Down here in Cornwall, you can have so many fronts converging that weather forecasting's still a bit of a black art.)
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Posted by Orsen Trapp Not An Ingredient (U2273997) on Sunday, 6th January 2008
I rely on the inshore forecast for daily life, not just when likely to be afloat. We've had a few days recently when it has appeared windless and quite pleasant outside but the forecast and current gale warning has said it's Force 9. Sure enough, half an hour later it's blowing a hoolie and chucking it down with hail!
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Posted by Solly-its-shutting-down Sid (U2337718) on Sunday, 13th January 2008
Gone quiet on here. Everybody sunk?
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Posted by Solly-its-shutting-down Sid (U2337718) on Sunday, 13th January 2008
Meant to say, for those of you with shore power, a dehumidifier is worth having. It takes moisture out of the air and converts it into liquid water (put it over the galley sink and remember to leave the seacock open), eliminates that mouldy smell you usually find on a shut-up boat over the winter. Wouldn't be without ours.
Chemical versions are also available, think they use caustic soda so be careful when handling.
Sun, 13 Jan 2008 02:07 GMT, in reply to Solly Sid in message 20
The ones that I know use salt-based stuff, which is deliquescent anyway.
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Posted by Orsen Trapp Not An Ingredient (U2273997) on Sunday, 13th January 2008
I was going to post yesterday that I'd been out in a friend's boat but didn't want to wake the sleeping thread. Very icy weather but calmish for a change. Thank goodness for the heater in the cabin - couldn't have managed without, despite being togged-up to resemble the Michelin Man!
We left a couple of the bicarbonate of soda ones and boat smells ok atm but boatyard have been working on her so open for some of the time .
Need to ring and chack on her as i think water levels may be a touch higher than when we left her !
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Posted by Solly-its-shutting-down Sid (U2337718) on Thursday, 17th January 2008
If you're lucky, the boat will have risen with the water.
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Posted by Solly-its-shutting-down Sid (U2337718) on Wednesday, 23rd January 2008
Mr Surveyor attended yesterday, verbal report sounded good. Just waiting for his written version so I can forward it to "the man from the Pru".
Standing rigging renewal in progress.
Engine renewal hopefully next month.
No wonder I have to walk round with holes in my shoes. All go, isn't it.
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Posted by carrick-bend (U2288869) on Wednesday, 23rd January 2008
Wed, 23 Jan 2008 21:21 GMT, in reply to Solly Sid in message 25
What is it, Solly Sid?
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Posted by Solly-its-shutting-down Sid (U2337718) on Wednesday, 23rd January 2008
Westerly Konsort. Yours?
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Posted by carrick-bend (U2288869) on Wednesday, 23rd January 2008
Wed, 23 Jan 2008 21:38 GMT, in reply to Solly Sid in message 27
Roberts Mauritius in Greece (she's rigged as a sloop, but sails balanced), a Yachting France Jouet 760 that we've had for ever, and vintage ferry, built in 1926.
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Posted by Solly-its-shutting-down Sid (U2337718) on Wednesday, 23rd January 2008
You'll never be off the water with that fleet.
One's bad enough when it comes to general maintenance, especially antifouling. You must be at it continuously.
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Posted by carrick-bend (U2288869) on Wednesday, 23rd January 2008
Wed, 23 Jan 2008 21:59 GMT, in reply to Solly Sid in message 29
Time is the trouble. The one in Greece only spends a few weeks in the water before she's craned out and pressure-washed, so she doesn't need anti-fouling and the Jouet only has a small wetted area (cut-away fin) so she can be dried out against a wall, pressure-washed and anti-fouled between tides.
The ferry sits outside in the creek, and doesn't weed up much, thank goodness. We've restored her, over the years. (She's got two big diesels, but luckily my OH was a diesel engineer once.)
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Posted by Solly-its-shutting-down Sid (U2337718) on Wednesday, 23rd January 2008
Had you considered hiring out the one in Greece? Seems a shame to leave her unused for 11 months each year.
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Posted by carrick-bend (U2288869) on Wednesday, 23rd January 2008
Wed, 23 Jan 2008 22:42 GMT, in reply to Solly Sid in message 31
You aren't allowed to charter a British registered vessel in Greek waters - even if, say, you used her and just paid us expenses and cranage, it would be technically illegal.
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Posted by Solly-its-shutting-down Sid (U2337718) on Wednesday, 23rd January 2008
Sorry had forgotten that bit. Shame to not get more use out of her though. Still, you've got the other ones.
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Posted by Solly-its-shutting-down Sid (U2337718) on Saturday, 26th January 2008
A thrilling time yesterday stripping, cleaning and refitting the heads pump. The thing still dribbles back into the bowl, good job there's an anti-siphon valve at the top of the loop.
Any suggestions to stop it running back, anyone? A fairly new Jabsco.
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Posted by Solly-its-shutting-down Sid (U2337718) on Monday, 4th February 2008
Mast refitted. Lights tested.
Mon, 04 Feb 2008 21:20 GMT, in reply to Solly Sid in message 35
My worst experience with masthead lights was years ago, when we were moored up in Fowey, in powerboat week, and I was pulled up the mast to change a bulb.
I'd got to the top when the powerboats went out to practise. They made a lot of wash and I was swirling all over the place, and just had to cling on where I was, for a very long 45 minutes.
It was tedious and I had bruised knees. I wasn't in a very good mood when it was safe to get down and I'd got fed up with the view.
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Posted by Solly-its-shutting-down Sid (U2337718) on Monday, 4th February 2008
I'm sure a lot of them do it on purpose.
Mon, 04 Feb 2008 21:43 GMT, in reply to Solly Sid in message 37
No, these ones were "something moddable" big offshore powerboats filing out of the harbour very slow, with bulk wash) to practice out to sea, and then filing back in again.
I just chose my time to go aloft very, very badly!
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Posted by barefoot choirmistress (Grade 1 listed status at present but soon to be partly demolished. The wrecking ball has started its upward swing, ready to demolish my name) (U2220849) on Tuesday, 5th February 2008
<quote>and I was pulled up the mast to change a bulb<?quote>
One Round the Island Race, early start, very foggy, I remember being pulled to the top of the mast to see if I could see anything...
... lots of heads sticking out of the cloud.
To paraphrase Calendar Girls, they would need considerably bigger winches to get me up top these days.
bc
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Posted by Solly-its-shutting-down Sid (U2337718) on Sunday, 17th February 2008
Out on the river for a recommissioning run yesterday, 3 hours or so. Most of what should work did so.
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Posted by Solly-its-shutting-down Sid (U2337718) on Friday, 22nd February 2008
Tomorrow's sail postponed due to gale forecast.
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Posted by Solly-its-shutting-down Sid (U2337718) on Saturday, 23rd February 2008
Thinking there might just be a little too much wind Sunday morning too. Sunday night and Monday daytime look better.
Then there's the sea state ...
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Posted by carrick-bend (U2288869) on Saturday, 23rd February 2008
Sat, 23 Feb 2008 20:29 GMT, in reply to Solly Sid in message 42
That usually follows on, doesn't it?
Where are you planning to go to and from?
Your boat is a good sea-boat, anyway.
, in reply to message 43.
Posted by Solly-its-shutting-down Sid (U2337718) on Tuesday, 4th March 2008
Reeds Almanac - March updates now available:
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Posted by Solly-its-shutting-down Sid (U2337718) on Saturday, 8th March 2008
Boat finally at repair yard and lifted out for an engine transplant.
Just in time, more gales coming through.
Sat, 08 Mar 2008 12:09 GMT, in reply to Solly Sid in message 45
They're forecast to reach Cornwall Sunday night, Monday. My OH is checking all the loose stuff and the cover of the ferry.
It's good to be able to see it, but there are tall trees near.
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Posted by Orsen Trapp Not An Ingredient (U2273997) on Saturday, 8th March 2008
Thought we were going to get the hoolie, but I think we'll miss the worst. Not sure if it is a good idea to be able to see your boat in a storm - might be too tempting to go out and try to lash something down when perhaps more sensible to stay safe indoors!
Sat, 08 Mar 2008 12:35 GMT, in reply to Orsen Trapp, back in harness in message 47
A friends 42 footer once sunk outside our house - he'd left a sea-cock turned on.
I thought "She's a bit low in the water", went on the pontoon, looked down one of the hatches, saw my face reflected in all the water inside, and saw my friend hurrying up the pontoon with a big submersible pump he'd hired.
Ir was sorted eventually - lucky we spotted it and it was only neaps anyway.
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Posted by Orsen Trapp Not An Ingredient (U2273997) on Saturday, 8th March 2008
looked down one of the hatches, saw my face reflected in all the water insideÂ
An 'eeeek!' moment! Boating's such fun, isn't it? ;¬}
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Posted by Solly-its-shutting-down Sid (U2337718) on Saturday, 8th March 2008
Not an episode which I'd care to copy. Deepest sympathy to the poor fellow.
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