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Posted by Auntie Prue (U1481323) on Tuesday, 28th April 2009
I hope this isn't laise majeste - but I thought I would open this week's thread.
I have copied and pasted what JJ had for last week's one - so I hope that at least this will get us all going.
Happy Eating.
You’ll encounter plenty of wise words from our many members throughout the coming week and I’ve included links to Katy’s excellent MFC Cook book as well as GEm’s cybergym if you need a bit of extra motivation or inspiration – and let’s face it, who doesn’t?
We are a truly inclusive club - no membership, no oath, no fees, just this: we don't mention our real life weight or size, because one person's starting point can be another person's goal, and we exist only to encourage and help each other. Please do feel free to say how much weight (or how many inches) you’re aiming to lose.
We extend a warm welcome to everyone in ML (including lurkers) - not just those wanting to lose weight, but those looking to institute a healthier eating plan or wishing to embark on a fitter lifestyle. Whatever your goals, please join our happy band and dip in and out whenever you please. Some of us stop by every day, some come once a week, some just now and then – you’ll always be assured a hearty hello from someone. Those who choose to weigh/measure regularly often do that on a Tuesday, some weigh when it suits them and report when they can. Food diaries have proved a useful tool for many of us, especially when we’re struggling, so feel free to make a note of what you eat if you think it might help.
We don’t stick to any one eating plan as a group. Some members follow a plan like Weightwatchers or Slimmers’ World, others follow no plan, or one of their own devising. We all love to hear about what works and doesn’t work for individual members and we don’t criticise – though we sometimes interfere when members ask for a bit of advice, or seem to be taking extreme measures – whatever our goals, we’re not about starving ourselves to achieve them!
As well as no rules, we also have no ruler - different posters open up each Tuesday. If you fancy having a go (please do, it must be easy cos I’ve just done it!) have a look here
www.bbc.co.uk/dna/mb...
A really useful thread is the MFC cookbook, often known as Katy's cookbook, because it's Katy who runs it (if a book can be run, that is). The thread is here
www.bbc.co.uk/dna/mb... it's packed with recipes, tips and discussions about healthy eating, all of which is incredibly interesting and also very inspiring.
Katy has a link to the book itself in her second post - for speed, I've copied the link here
www.bbc.co.uk/go/dna... The cookbook is fantastic - you need never be stuck for a healthy meal option again. Katy's worked really hard to include lots of relevant information about calories, points, syns etc at the end of every recipe, so it can fit with a number of commercial plans. She is a saint.
Returning members will notice we’ve changed our name slightly to clarify what we’re about – not just losing weight, but becoming and staying as healthy and fit as we can in our own real lives. My personal journey is very much about the weight loss and fitness gain going hand in hand towards a healthier future. I can’t stress how much support is available here – without judgement and with a lot of love and compassion. It’s a good place to be.
To help you towards a fitter future, the Cybergym thread, often known as GEm's gym because GEm 'runs' it is a mine of useful information and a great place to record any challenges and successes as well as to pose questions about exercise plans.
www.bbc.co.uk/dna/mb...
For many of us, instituting a regular exercise regime has been the key to kick-starting and maintaining a weight-loss plan, as well as offering a host of additional benefits – not least lower blood pressure, healthier hearts and lungs and stronger muscles. For some of us it’s about walking further and more often, for others getting out to the gym or climbing on a bike. I think you’ll be hard pushed to find anyone who feels they haven’t benefited from moving more (except for me the other week when I tuned my ankle out running and ended up hobbling around for a week or so, though am now much improved, thanks, and back to semi-normal exercise routine!)
So, a slightly long-winded, but very sincere, welcome to one and all and more power to us! -
Message 2
Posted by Auntie Prue (U1481323) on Tuesday, 28th April 2009
MFC cookbook is here:
Cybergym 2009 is here:
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Message 3
Posted by puzzler76 (U3733897) on Tuesday, 28th April 2009
Morning, and thanks Auntie Prue.
A surprising half pound down for me this week, though I suspect it may have to do with using more calories being awake than asleep. Puzzlerette has stated waking in the night, having not done so more than a handful of times since she was 6 days old. I'm getting up every night andhaving to settle her by getting into bed with her. I can't just leave her because she scratches her eczema until her arms and legs are bleeding, and she wakes Puzzling (but not OH, of course!).
Puzzler -
Message 4
Posted by catwomyn (U1485618) on Tuesday, 28th April 2009
Hello all
Just a quick word to heartily endorse Dusty's SW syn-free (on Green & extra easy) dip for carrots/celery: blitz a tin of chickpeas with a few cloves garlic and a dollop each of balsamic vingar and light soy sauce. Delish. I had to mash with a masher first but then it blended OK with my new hand blender. I added a small sliver of EVOO cause I'm not actively losing weight and to make it a bit runnier.
Made my elevenses celery much more appealing
Speaking of which, I can smell the coffee...
Cat x -
Message 5
Posted by Westsussexbird or Birdy aka Westie (U6316532) on Tuesday, 28th April 2009
Prue, thanks for opening up ... and great minds think alike ... I was going to copy JJ's opener too and thanks for the links :0)
Puzzler, surprise or no surprise, that's another half pound down the shoot. Well done :0) I'm sorry you are having disturbed nights with Puzzlerette and hope it's a short lived development.
Cat, I intend to get that recipe wizzing as soon as I can track down the tins of chickpeas I know I have! Thanks for the recommendation. If I buy more tins I will immediately find the ones I know I have! I've got the basil leaves sat on the window sill waiting.
For me, a good week thinking about food in a sensible way. -
Message 6
Posted by Curiously Frittering (U5481361) on Tuesday, 28th April 2009
Morning All,
No lose or gain for me this week. But I've been cheating, so that was expected.
I'm getting alot more active though. Walked an extended route to work this morning and am walking at lunchtimes too.
One step at a time, and I'm trying not to beat myself up too much as I know that this week will be forgottten in a few weeks if I work hard - a blip.
I'm curious about other people's food diaries. I've been keeping my own, and I think its looking quite empty. I'm eating healthy and quite alot - but maybe I'm not eating enough calories. I'm going to see how this week goes and then maybe up the number of kcals I eat. NOt because I'm hungry, I just don't want my body to think I'm starving it. I'm not specifically counting kcals, but have a rough idea of what I have been consuming.
KOKO all
Cfx -
Message 7
Posted by Westsussexbird or Birdy aka Westie (U6316532) on Tuesday, 28th April 2009
CF, maybe to post your food diary here a few times this week and see what others make of it?
I think it has recently been mentioned that if you can keep to your plan for about 80 per cent of the time then you can't be going toooo wrong, so as you say, don't lose heart, just keep eating sensibly and well.
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Message 8
Posted by Fire-Pig - proud to wave the protest banner (U12231213) on Tuesday, 28th April 2009
Last night Younger Piglet came home from his Welsh class bearing multi-packs of Penguin biscuits. (Well he's going to be feeding himself while we are away!) I had had a very productive evening, done the ironing, changed the sheets on our bed, completed some things for a committee meeting tonight etc so I had one of the new Penguin wafer biscuits. It was SOOO sweet, I really must be retraining my tastebuds!
Sorry I can't volunteer for opening the thread for the next few weeks - I won't be here!
Great to hear about Puzzler and her parents' reaction but not so good about the little one's sleeping. I well remember settling YP one night and staggering back to bed, sure I hadn't had a wink of sleep and looking at the clock 06.15!
F-P -
Message 9
Posted by countrypug (U9227943) on Tuesday, 28th April 2009
Thanks for opening Auntie Prue (my keyboard wants to say Auntie Pure for some reason!)
Well done Puzzler for the loss, and CF for the maintain. Westie, hope you have a great holiday - you are sounding so positive at the moment, it is fab, and the weight is obviously coming off too.
Fire-pig - hope you too have a lovely time away, and enjoy every minute of it. So many people going on holiday at the moment, must be something in the air....
I've had a reasonable week, and am very happy have lost a pound. This is very unusual in that we have just had a weekend off, but I tried really hard up to Friday, so that I could have some treats at the weekend (like some lovely wine at a friend's 50th birthday party). I am keeping up my running/walking training 3 to 4 times per week too, as well as aquafit. I still have a couple of pounds to go to my next mini target, which I was hoping to achieve by the end of April, but that is now too close! Still, might make it in the next week or two....
Have a good week all, and I will volunteer for next week as I am not on holiday
Pug x -
Message 10
Posted by Westsussexbird or Birdy aka Westie (U6316532) on Tuesday, 28th April 2009
Here is the link for the Rota thread .... I've just deleted the old dates to save confusion. I will help again when I get back mid June. I haven't felt able to commit just lately due to not being sure of when we are around .... we went away last week unexpectedly for instance, but after our imminent trip we should be here for a while.
Well done Pig, and yes, I am sure we get unused to fat and sweet things :0) I can only manage them in moderation now. Some time ago I was offered one of those chocolate eggs with a sweet yolk in it (my son in law loves them) and I just couldn't eat it. Mind you I've never much cared for them, but I would have expected to be able to eat it! I just couldn't.
Pug (Pigs and Pugs!!) well done you, and thanks for the encouragement. Yes, I'm feeling good at the moment. Long may it last ... that is the whole point of all this isn't it!! -
Message 11
Posted by Abby33 (U6428266) on Tuesday, 28th April 2009
I am retraining my taste buds and trying to see it as a new way of eating rather than a diet. I never expected to have such success! I have now lost 23lbs since January and I am having to alter my clothes-I can't afford to buy more.
It is a bit tedious but worth the effort.
I have to have one chocolate a day-I suck it in the evening! -
Message 12
Posted by Auntie Prue (U1481323) on Tuesday, 28th April 2009
We had been talking about treats that are still healthy.
OH and I are having a real treat this evening.
Fillet of wild salmon and English asparagus. I will steam them all together. Planned naughtiness will involve a little melted butter.
I bought some soda water - and I intend to make a spritzer to go with it - I have discovered that making a long drink makes a single measure go much further - in one's mind at least.
For lunch I had half an avocado with some vinaigrette - and three small homemade oatmeal and seed thins with taramasalata. Water to drink.
Breakfast was some sugar free muesli with a few raspberries and a couple of halved grapes. Tomato juice and green tea.
I had some black coffee for elevenses - and I am resisting anything else this afternoon against our lovely evening meal apart from a mug of Earl Grey tea with a slice of lemon.
We are living very luxuriously and healthily today : ) -
Message 13
Posted by Lady Trudie Tilney Glorfindel Maldini (U2222312) on Tuesday, 28th April 2009
<< Planned naughtiness will involve a little melted butter.>>
Is that before, with or after the salmon Auntie Prue?
(Sorry, couldn't resist) -
Message 14
Posted by Auntie Prue (U1481323) on Tuesday, 28th April 2009
snork, ermintrude.
I will that to your imagination ; ) -
Message 15
Posted by Curiously Frittering (U5481361) on Tuesday, 28th April 2009
Well done Abby - 23lbs since January. That's amazing!
My food diary for the day so far (I've been trying to eat more, rather than being so strict today - and having snacks, as I've heard this can be good to keep the metabolism up - though I don't feel I need them)
Breakfast - 1 banana with 3tbsps of low fat natural yogurt and a sprinkle of seeds
Snack - A very very very small handful of mixed dried fruit.
Lunch - 3 wholegrain ryvita. 9 very small and thin slices of german sausage (80kcals in total). 1 apple, 1 plum. 180kcals of thai green chicken soup (which was delicious - although I'm ashamed to say I didn't make it myself).
Snack just now - 1/2 grapefruit, and a low fat pot of strawberry yogurt (91kcals).
I'm off swimming after work and by the time I've walked home it will be nearing 9pm, so I'm just planning on having some steamed/boiled veggies - or a small tin of baked beans - or if very hungry both!
This is more than I have been having. For the past couple of weeks I've been on 1 banana, 1 apple, seeds and yogurt for breakfast. Chickpea and roasted veg salad (homemade) and lots of raw veggies. Some more yogurt and a piece of fruit. Steamed fish (small piece) with steamed veggies.
Its healthy, but I'm not sure its enough. From the sizes/portions I was having I think I worked out it was less than 1000kcals a day. Which isn't what I want to be doing long term. Its not sustainable and not good for me.
I've not been hungry though or feeling sluggish - in fact the extra exercise and clean living has made me feel better. Today seems like a healthier amount to be consuming.
I find it a tricky middle ground to find, between not enough and too much. When not thinking about what I'm eating the too much side of things is what happens without thinking!
CFx -
Message 16
Posted by JustJezebel (U7474974) on Tuesday, 28th April 2009
Well done all - another positive start to our weekly thread! Big respect to Abby for huge loss - what's your secret?
Happy to have lost 1lb this week - slow but steady as usual. Back to more or less normal exercise routine after time out with my ankle.
KOKO one and all. -
Message 17
Posted by Westsussexbird or Birdy aka Westie (U6316532) on Tuesday, 28th April 2009
CF, I will be interested in what others think of your food intake ... I really can't comment as I don't have any knowledge of what someone else should be eating but I know there are others who will be able to advise you :0)
JJ did you get a surprise when you read the opening post?
And yes, well done Abby :0) -
Message 18
Posted by GEm (U4356909) on Tuesday, 28th April 2009
CF
Sorry but this is definitely not enough food if you are exercising. katy will be able to work out the calories properly but I'd say you are around 600 there.
okay being blunt you are telling your body that there is a food shortage and it will consequently be slowing down your metabolism to conserve energy - that is why you are not feeling hungry. your body will also be consuming lean muscle tissue as it gets most energy from that (rather than your fat stores). So your metabolism will continue to slow and slow as your muscle mass decreases......
Not sure what you are trying to achieve here but if you are attempting to make your body healthier you are doing pretty much everything wrong. A normal woman would need something in the region of about 1800 - 2000 calories a day for a moderately sedentary lifestyle - add in your walking and your swimming and to maintain a weight at around 9-10 stone you will be needing something like 2000 cals. Katy will add the real numbers here but I am in the right ball park.
So
breakfast - you need to add some carbs to your breakfast - porridge oats with your fruit and seeds 9you can make with water or skimmed milk)
mid morning - your dried fruit is okay but it's high in sugar. How about an oatcake as well.
lunch - I don't know what Ryvita is but it doesn't look very substantial to me. How about some salad, bread and protein or if you like the soup add a wholegrain roll.
afternoon snack - some fruit good here
dinner - veggies great but you need to supplement a bit - how about a jacket potato and some cheese or lean chicken as well.
you might find that you gain a pound or two to start with but you'll soon lose it again and start to lose weight more sensibly.
G -
Message 19
Posted by orange pekoe (U9563764) on Tuesday, 28th April 2009
Hello again, I've popped my head round the door a couple of times now.
I have renewed inspiration now. After a heart to heart at the weekend with a good friend who has very similar issues, we have agreed on a pact of mutual support.
This week we are going cold turkey on chocolate (her idea), and texting/emailing each other with good news on avoiding temptation, wobbles, etc.
I might suggest some of the ideas I was given here last time for future weeks - simple, positive aims such as getting your five a day, or drinking 8 glasses of water.
This is Day 3 of the zero chocolate endurance week, and tbh the pact has been invaluable. There have been countless times when I would've reached for some, but I've either found something else to do to distract me, or made a hot drink, or even chopped up some carrot sticks (the latter was this afternoon, I nearly fell over with shock).
Having read the messages here about re-training your palate, I see the sense in my friend's determination to cut it out. I've always been a "well, let's cut it down" person, and then end up eating more than I intended. I am under no illusions that I'm never going to eat chocolate again, but am hoping that some grown-up dark choc will do the job. Even in my chocoholic days I ate less of that in one go. I think it's sugar as much as anything that I need to cut down on.
Want to comment to Puzzler about eczema, but will put it in a separate post. -
Message 20
Posted by orange pekoe (U9563764) on Tuesday, 28th April 2009
Puzzler, I saw your message about Puzzlerette's eczema.
I know how horrible it is for them and for you. My youngest developed it at around 3 months old (solely breastfed, bloomin statistics, when stuff like that happens you realise what "less likely" actually means - some poor kid still gets it anyway!)
I totally relate to the scratching till they bleed thing. As he was so young, we put him in sleepsuits *all the time*, to reduce his scratching access, but I'd still fetch him after a nap with a 'halo' of blood around his head where he'd been scratching.
I don't know whether you've been seen by a specialist, but we found their support invaluable. To cut a very long story short, his eczema is now very much more under control. He has just turned four, and actually did have a flare up last week, but they are much less frequent now. This has involved use of steroid creams, and I don't know your view on these, but as a baby absolutely nothing else touched it and he was just covered with ezcema and weeping, crusty sores.
I'm sure you know this already, but moisturise moisturise moisturise. Even if she hasn't got a flare-up. Ask your GP for some 50/50 (can't remember what that's short for, something like 50% liquid paraffin, 50% white paraffin) - it's a fabulous emollient. Make sure you're using an emollient in the bath too, if one hasn't already been prescribed.
Oh heck, I only really meant to empathise, I'm sure you know all the above already, sorry! I also wanted you to know that eczema can become better managed, and much more under control, even if Puzzlerette doesn't actually 'grow out of it'.
Take care. -
Message 21
Posted by Westsussexbird or Birdy aka Westie (U6316532) on Tuesday, 28th April 2009
GEm, you are so kind. We all learn from your posts. Thanks.
OP, well done you and your friend finding a way that works for you both. -
Message 22
Posted by Abby33 (U6428266) on Tuesday, 28th April 2009
I go to a slimming club with an exercise class and having never liked aerobics I find it fun. The fact that we get weighed each week keeps me on the straight and narrow-my personality is such that put in that sort of situation I am determined to win! I am doing a lot of walking.
I largely ignore the diet they give out-I know perfectly well what I can eat or not eat after about 40yrs of diets. As long as I have the odd treat I can do it-I only need to lose about another 5lbs-the difficult part will be keeping there. -
Message 23
Posted by Westsussexbird or Birdy aka Westie (U6316532) on Tuesday, 28th April 2009
>the difficult part will be keeping there.<
Abby ... you are so right :0)
Some years ago I put back all the weight I had lost over a two year period, but this time I have realised what was happening and I think because of this thread I am doing something about it before tooo much damage has been done to my health. It took a couple of years to lose the weight and a couple of years to put it all back on again!
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Message 24
Posted by GEm (U4356909) on Tuesday, 28th April 2009
Westie
One thing I have learned from here is that losing weight slowly by retraining how you think about food is the trick to keeping it off.
Think creating healthy body and the weight will take care of itself.
G -
Message 25
Posted by Westsussexbird or Birdy aka Westie (U6316532) on Tuesday, 28th April 2009
Yes GEm, thanks, that is what has dawned on me too.
It was the cart before the horse for me ... eating sensibly to lose weight and try to maintain the weight I wanted to be, but it seems a lot easier to eat well for myself and observe the consequence (weight loss) almost as an afterthought!
I'm working on it, and it's getting easier.
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Message 26
Posted by Curiously Frittering (U5481361) on Tuesday, 28th April 2009
Thanks Gem, I appreciate your honesty. You've confirmed what I thought.
I'll start increasing it, and porridge in the morning should do something towards that. Today was exceptional in not having a proper dinner, I just don't like eating lots late on.
The good news.... I swam over a mile and have walked over 18000 steps!
Thanks all. X -
Message 27
Posted by Fire-Pig - proud to wave the protest banner (U12231213) on Tuesday, 28th April 2009
It was the cart before the horse for me ... eating sensibly to lose weight and try to maintain the weight I wanted to be, but it seems a lot easier to eat well for myself and observe the consequence (weight loss) almost as an afterthought!
I'm working on it, and it's getting easier.
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I don't think I'm as far down that path as you, Westie, but I'm huffing and puffing along behind you. Like you, I lost a lot of weight a few years ago, when I wanted to look better for several official occasions but since ... This time around, I hope that I will really try to change for myself.
Tomorrow is packing day, and then we leave home on Thursday morning but don't reach our destination until Saturday afternoon. I will have the lap top with me, as I have been asked to be one of five reporters at the Conference and will have to file reports. At the moment, I'm not intending to visit ML while I'm away, but you never know, if there is Wifi in the hotel and I have an idle moment I might pop in.
F-P -
Message 28
Posted by Westsussexbird or Birdy aka Westie (U6316532) on Tuesday, 28th April 2009
Have a good trip Pig ...
I look forward to finding out how you get on when I return :0) -
Message 29
Posted by villageschoolmaam (U11233398) on Tuesday, 28th April 2009
Hello all!
Fantastic set of posts, with remarkable successes, especially Abby. I have a fair idea which programme you're using and I have a lot of time for their approach.
Good week for me, and although I'm trying hard not to make the scales the focus I'm down a pound. I've been walk/jogging and did 16 mins last evening, which I really enjoyed.
I've been planning meals the night before, writing it down in a little notebook. Sometimes I have to adjust times due to circumstance, but that's just bringing a proper meal half an hour forward because I'm going out, not because I'm ready to scoff.
So - tomorrow, breakfast at 7.30 at my table (ie not standing up on the run), cereal with breakfast topper, fresh fruit, coffee, water (in theory). I'm trying to cut down on the sugar of juice by swapping in fresh fruit.
Break: R*vita bar with coffee at 11.15.
Lunch: wholemeal sandwich with Emmental cheese and cucumber, apple, water
Snack: Act*via yoghourt with water
Dinner: hmm. I think, turkey breast with a little pesto and the last of the Emmental, salad, 20g 85% cocoa solids (it's very good), little glass of red, water and coffee.
I tend not to have carbs at night and don't miss them. Energy levels are fine as long as I drink water and get enough sleep.
Hope to go for another joglet in advance of our funrun Monday. I don't think I'm up to doing the full stint at a jog as I had a cough for three weeks and lost time, but I'm hoping my buddy will go for 3 x 10min sessions with 2 min walks in between. If we plan that, it's a target for success, whereas aiming to run the whole way and conking out would be a failure. GEm, what do you think?
Monster post! Big waves to all as there has been such an encouraging and practical tone to the posts. BTW, do you notice that the number of posts for weeks seems to be steadily increasing? And no wonder!
KOKO folks,
love,
vsm xx -
Message 30
Posted by Fire-Pig - proud to wave the protest banner (U12231213) on Tuesday, 28th April 2009
Westie, I hope you don't mind my saying that I'm not sure that I'm happy being abbreviated to just Pig. I'm trying so hard not to be one, but I do like being a Fire-Pig, or just F-P.
Enjoy the wedding trip, Mother comes from Co Wexford, so that's the part of Ireland I know best, but have toured elsewhere and love it.
F-P -
Message 31
Posted by villageschoolmaam (U11233398) on Tuesday, 28th April 2009
Ooh, glad you posted, fire-pig - just wanted to wish you a safe and fabulous trip!
vsm xx -
Message 32
Posted by archingmad (U8292055) on Wednesday, 29th April 2009
Bon Voyage, from me, too, F-P. I'm getting quite excited about my trip to Singapore, now. I got the summer clothes out and put them on a clothes rail in the spare bedroom - and it collapsed! I still haven't got the concept of minimal packing. Must work on that.
Westie, I succumbed to the scales this morning, only because it's Tuesday, and I had done a good deal of walking recently so I wanted to see if there had been any reaction. I was rewarded with a dip, hitting the scales right bang on the stone I am trying to get below. So forgive me if I keep on peeking, at least until I drop into that next stone zone that means so much to me. I actually haven't got very far into The Book, not because I'm not interested but lack of time just at present. It is very tempting to flick ahead, but I want to do it thoroughly, like wot you did.
I needed to have an early dinner tonight as I was singing with the choir in a concert. I planned a healthy meal and put some veg in the oven to roast. Then I had to go and put some petrol in dear old mum's jalopy at that moment because OH offered to help. I thought, well, I'll only be gone 10 minutes or so. When we got to the petrol station I realised d.o.m. hadn't given me the key to the petrol cap so we had to drive out to her, get the key, drive back, join the queue at the garage - and by the time I got home the veg were frazzled. Still ate them, though, but not so enjoyable. Concert went well with lots of kind comments from the audience.
Only one ginger nut today. I feel, under the 80:20 rule, that wasn't too bad. -
Message 33
Posted by JustJezebel (U7474974) on Wednesday, 29th April 2009
Have a good trip F-P.
CF, wot GEm says. You do have to stoke the boiler if you're turning the heat up, so to speak!
JJ -
Message 34
Posted by Curiously Frittering (U5481361) on Wednesday, 29th April 2009
Further to my reply to Gem last night.
The reason I have cut back so drastically so quickly has partly been to do with the rubbish I was eating before.
I'd got into a rut where I was living on rubbish (and far too much of it) so for me losing weight is more than simply a case of eating less and exercising more. It has to be about changing what I'm eating.
I know I've not been eating enough, but as I said - I find the middle ground hard to achieve! I've got myself even more organised though and have written down a whole long list of good ideas for lunches. Dinner I can do if I plan ahead so I can defrost some chicken or fish, or whatever for that. And breakfast I think I'll carry on the same but add in the porridge.
Thanks for the advice. I thought I was being a bit severe with myself, then I did a quick calorie guestimate and scared myself. I'll rectify it now.
Next stage for the day, plan my exercise for after work. I found my skipping rope last night, so I might go for a walk/jog around the park with some intermitent skipping on the spot. Its hard work if you do alot, but I still find it fun!
Thanks all again.
I'm off to make that porridge!
CFx -
Message 35
Posted by Westsussexbird or Birdy aka Westie (U6316532) on Wednesday, 29th April 2009
Well done VSM :0)
Yes, of course Fire-Pig ... and with such a lovely name (remember the pictures I dug out?) why would you shorten it ... it was just the juxtaposition with Pug that made me laugh. I hope no offence taken, and certainly none taken here :0))))) Enjoy your trip.
Talking of names reflecting intentions, I hope chox away is managing to keep the chox under control :0)
Archi, you do what suits you about the scales ... as I mentioned, I too am just keeping an eye on them to confirm what I can tell is happening ... but not in the way I was, and perhaps that would be helpful to you too ... you and I both know how dispiriting the upward blip can be, and its best avoided if we can in order to keep our spirits up. If we eat healthily and in sensible amounts our bodies are bound to benefit, and if we are overweight that will be reflected on the scales. Sorry about your roast veggies overcooking.
Another day .... -
Message 36
Posted by Westsussexbird or Birdy aka Westie (U6316532) on Wednesday, 29th April 2009
You are doing so well CF ... I can feel the BUZZ just reading your posts :0)))))
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Message 37
Posted by Curiously Frittering (U5481361) on Wednesday, 29th April 2009
Thanks Westie!
Anyone got any advice on how to make porridge in the microwave without having more out of the bowl than in by the end of it?
Oops!
CFx -
Message 38
Posted by Westsussexbird or Birdy aka Westie (U6316532) on Wednesday, 29th April 2009
I make mine in a large high topped plastic jug with a handle .... and after the first blast I turn the control down a bit ... above defrost, but not on high. Stir often to get the 'air' out of it so it doesn't overflow ... which can still happen even in a high jug :0)))))
I usually try and stay nearby :0)))))
I use a plastic scraper to get the porridge out into my bowl. -
Message 39
Posted by Curiously Frittering (U5481361) on Wednesday, 29th April 2009
So height and stirring are the key ... excellent.
I don't think I'll ever be organised enough to make sure I make porridge before I leave for work, so I best perfect the technique!
CFx -
Message 40
Posted by Westsussexbird or Birdy aka Westie (U6316532) on Wednesday, 29th April 2009
.. basically a large voluminous 'white' plastic jug ... the sort you see in any good hardware shop ... as they say :0)
Mine is almost see through so I can glance in to make sure the porridge is behaving itself.
Having said all this my mother used to scoff and say she could make it just as easily and quickly in a saucepan on the gas, but I think this jug is much easier to clean afterwards.... especially if you remove all the porridge from it with the scraper I talked about earlier.
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Message 41
Posted by Fire-Pig - proud to wave the protest banner (U12231213) on Wednesday, 29th April 2009
No offence taken Westie, of course I remember your pictures!
Just printing out business cards to take with me, so am at the computer. I weighed myself this morning and couldn't believe the scales as they showed another 2 lbs off, so that is 13 lbs since March 7th. I will try not to think about scales and weight while I am away and that may break the cycle of weighing. At the moment I do need the reassurance of results from the scales. I know I shouldn't and it will take work.
I find it easier to eat well as we move into the salad season, don't know about anyone else. I hope we will be well into salads when we return.
Printing finished, work to be done!
KOKO all of you! Remember a setback can be be put behind you, it is NOT a sin!
F-P -
Message 42
Posted by Auntie Prue (U1481323) on Wednesday, 29th April 2009
Fire-Pig - have a super time. I am also a fire pig - so have one for me too : )
I want to tell you about a success I had this week. I nearly didn't go because I knew it would be a healthy eating mindfield - but decided that life must be as normal as possible.
What was this descent into the fleshpots of luxury living? A Women's Institute quiz night - when everyone brings masses of chocolate, biscuits, crips, sausage rolls, bottles of cola etc etc.
I went armed with a bottle of water, and some home-made small sugar-free biscuits, and some small oat cakes, and a packet of low fat salt-free cripsps.
I ate about 2 crisps, and about a total of 6 tiny biscuits throughout the evening. I deliberately didn't have any carbs with my evening meal beforehand.
I won't tell you what I turned down - as it was an unhealthy eaters paradise - but even the matchmakers didn't really tempt me.
I had decided beforehand what I was allowing myself - and I stuck to it.
.... last year we came bottom - and this year we came 4th out of 14 teams - so a successful night all round : )
A very small triumph - but one none the less. -
Message 43
Posted by myria (U4022847) on Wednesday, 29th April 2009
hello everyone.
THings going well foodwise for me, although feeling pretty blue for various reasons, I guess that makes it a double triumph though, eating sensibly while low!
GEm, I really wanted to thank you for your post, I often feel (in rl) that people I know who are trying to lose weight are eating way too little, but find it hard broach the subject with them (and avoid geting over-emotional about it as I used to be anorexic and I tend to panic when I see people undereating) your message has helped give me strength to broach the subject from an objective point of view.
On a similar note, I wanted to try to say something about the idea of "maintaining", which may well come out all wrong so please forgive me. It seems to me that if something needs to be "maintained" through effort then this is not going to last, it's like being "on a diet" for your entire life, a pretty appalling prospect! If you lose weight through changing your lifestyle, you don't need to "maintain" as your weight will naturally settle where your body is happiest, without any change of eating patterns from when you were losing weight. This has been my experience, and is explained much better than I can in the book "Naturally Slim, without dieting" by Cherie Martin. Sorry to get on my soap-box and I hope this makes some sense, and I hope I haven't offended anyone who has found "maintaining" (sorry, can't say it without the quotes!) a struggle. -
Message 44
Posted by Westsussexbird or Birdy aka Westie (U6316532) on Wednesday, 29th April 2009
Onwards and downwards F-P ;0)
Prue, that is not a small success, that is a major success in my book as, now you know you are able to plan and then execute the plan successfully that is a huge confidence booster for the future. I hope you enjoyed your "crispsps" ... difficult to say without your teeth in I would imagine :0)))))
Fiorella, can I please give you a big HUG :0)))) You have just written a most helpful post and one I will always remember. You have answered all my outstanding questions in one thoughtful and kind post. (I was going to put you had answered all my questions "in one fell swoop", but as I'm not quite sure what a fell swoop is I wont, but I think it is appropriate here!)
What a wonderful thread this is.
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Message 45
Posted by Auntie Prue (U1481323) on Wednesday, 29th April 2009
snork - fortunately, I remembered to pack my teeth - so the crispsps went down well!
Fiorella - I too found your post very helpful.
Today, I turned down a request to make a cake for a local function. I politely said I would help support them in another way, but that I didn't make cakes any more. I will probably make some sort of cake again one day - but not yet (and perhaps never).
Now a request for ideas.
I recently replaced my flan cases - and I don't want to waste them. Apart from thinly rolled out wholemeal pastry, what else would make a good base for a savoury flan? Or some other use for them?
I am doing a lot more home cooking nowadays - at it seems the best way to be sure of what you are eating. OH is enjoying having a go too.
Oooh - and the quinoa info came in useful today. At our next bell ringing practice it will one of our member's birthday. We are all going to bring some food for a shared lunch.
Another member is gluten intolerant, so I asked her if a quinoa-based tabboleth would be OK. She was delighted that there would be something there she could eat, other than what she brings herself.
So thank you MFC for educating me about quinoa. -
Message 46
Posted by Westsussexbird or Birdy aka Westie (U6316532) on Wednesday, 29th April 2009
Prue :0))
Anyhow, my day has been turned on its head as instead of having a small macaroni cheese with 'things' this evening with OH, I had it at lunchtime with DD1. I am most proud of myself as usually I ask OH to just put a small amount on my plate as I LOVE macaroni cheese etc., but OH is out and I managed to serve us both and give myself the size I knew was enough for me. I am approximately 30 years older than my daughter and so need less than her.
Did any of you pick up the tip that we need about 100 calories a day less each ten years we clock up. A sobering thought.
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Message 47
Posted by Auntie Prue (U1481323) on Wednesday, 29th April 2009
If we think of that 100 calories as one biscuit - it doesn't seem so bad : )
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Message 48
Posted by Curiously Frittering (U5481361) on Wednesday, 29th April 2009
Afternoon all,
I've just had a day sitting at my desk so I've pretty much eaten what I've still got in the office - didn't really have time to get anything else at lunch. So food diary for the day is:
Breakfast - 1 banana, 3tbsp natural yogurt, small bowl of porridge (forgotten how vile it is - I think I'll switch to museli or weetabix)
Snack- handful mixed fruit
Lunch- 3 ryvita, 1 apple, 1 pear, some sliced sausage, soup, 2 handfuls of cherry tomatoes
Snack - 1/2 grapefruit, low fat yogurt with a large sprinkle of seeds.
I've decided to make chicken and veggie curry for tea tonight. It'll be an experiment. And I'll eaither have brown rice, naan or if I see them en route home a few poppadoms. Any I don't eat will get eaten by the flatmate!
I'm also drinking over 2 litres of water a day (I always do) and maybe a couple of cups of herbal tea or a rare (once or twice a month) espresso.
CFx -
Message 49
Posted by Westsussexbird or Birdy aka Westie (U6316532) on Wednesday, 29th April 2009
Prue, or the banana I just had for tea :0)
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Message 50
Posted by Westsussexbird or Birdy aka Westie (U6316532) on Wednesday, 29th April 2009
CF I used to have Weetabix for breakfast sometimes but found I always get quickly hungry again ... so presumably it releases its energy quickly leaving you hungry again sooner than if you have something like muesli or cereals with fruit/nuts in. I still use Weetabix but tend to have it in the evening if I want a little somethinng to tide me over.
My little 'GL Collins gem' book suggests popping some chopped dried apricots into porridge just before it is cooked and also serving it with a dollop of no fat greek yoghurt.
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