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MFC Healthy Eating 9th June 2009

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  • Message 1. 

    Posted by puzzler76 (U3733897) on Tuesday, 9th June 2009

    Morning folks, and welcome to our weekly Healthy Eating thread (formerly the MFC). We meet each week to discuss matters relating to healthy eating, which many of us hope will lead to weight loss. Some of our posters are members of clubs or follow plans such as Slimming World and WeightWatchers and others do our own thing, trying to keep within the realm of healthy eating most of the time.

    We welcome everyone so come on in, but please don't tell us how much you weigh, as it could be discouraging if one person's starting point was another's target. Please feel free to share the lows and lowers of your weight journey with us by reporting amounts lost if you like to weigh or loosening waist bands etc if you don't.

    Many of us find that keeping a food diary occasionally can help us to keep track of what we're eating and to identify times we find difficult (biscuits at the Breastfeeding Cafe are one of my downfalls!)

    We have sister threads here in TVH but first here's the Rota thread where you can sign up to open for us one week:


    You can go to the Cybergym, run by GEm, for tips on exercise:


    and Katy's cookbook is full of healthy recipe ideas:


    Our motto is KOKO (Keep On Keeping On), but enough from me, come on in!

    Puzzler

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    Posted by Fire-Pig - proud to wave the protest banner (U12231213) on Tuesday, 9th June 2009

    Morning Puzzler, good to see a new thread in the morning sunshine!

    Yesterday I did not have a good evening, I was on my own so did not make a proper meal which I always do when I have either or both of OH and Younger Piglet there. I made a sarnie of leftovers, and ate out of date chocolate mousse and nearly off cream - why can't I learn the real bin is a better bin than my tum?

    Oh well there will be three for supper tonight so it's a different day!

    F-P

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    Posted by puzzler76 (U3733897) on Tuesday, 9th June 2009

    I'm a bit happier with the scales this morning, 1.5lb down so nicely back in my maintain zone. However, I am aware of an increase in flab over the last month or so. It is easy for me to blame my Post Natal Depression, I've been quite low lately, but I still need to address the issue instead of turning to chocolate.
    Puzzler

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    Posted by Wanda_Ofwandas (U2258758) on Tuesday, 9th June 2009

    Morning! Well, F-P, I am joining you on the today-is-another-day step.Drank too much wine on Sunday, so ate too much food yesterday - the result of years of experience, eating my way through a hangover. Not carp food, just too much food. Such a shame, as I'd sneaked onto the scales yesterday morning and the number was MUCH better than today's and Tuesday is my 'official' weighing-day. So I'm viewing today as a COMPLETE blip and am well and truly back on the plan. I've been hovering around the same 3-lb area for a while and it's time to break the pattern.

    Looking forward to seeing how everyone else is getting on!

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    Posted by Sixties Relic SAVE ML (U13777237) on Tuesday, 9th June 2009

    Hi everybody. I'm still doing okay - I have friends over for lunch today but I am going to give them home made soup and low fat salady things - they can top up with bread and butter if they need the calories.

    I've also bought some cream to go with the fruit salad (theirs, not mine). If there is any left over afterwards, I shall get them to take it away with them!

    Wednesday is my weigh-day - but I have naughtily been on the scales this morning and all is looking good. I am hoping to have achieved my first full stone by tommorrow. That's over 6 weeks.

    I am still feeling very motivated - I have set myself a series of loose goals over the summer, eg I need to have at least another stone off before my summer hols. This is not vanity, but I am going on an archaeological dig in august and need to be slimmer and fitter to do this. The digging should help get the weight down too - it is hard graft.

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    Posted by Wanda_Ofwandas (U2258758) on Tuesday, 9th June 2009

    Oooh Puzzler, you have reminded me (and congratulations on being back in your zone). Posture. I've been making a real effort with mine over the last ten days or so - making a point of checking myself out several times during the day; are my shoulders relaxed, are my neck and spine free and aligned, am I doing zip-up with the tummmy... it makes a difference. If you're standing and sitting 'tall' then you can breathe better AND you automatically look a little thinner!

    The little-and-often principle really works with muscles - I read in a Pilates book once that if you just spend a few minutes every day reminding yourself to pull your tummmy in towards your spine, you'll be doing some good by teaching the muscles a new habit. I blame Darcy Bussell - she's my image for perfect posture. So if you see a woman apparently hissing to herself under her breath, it's me with my new mantra. Darcy Bussell, Darcy Bussell.

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    Posted by Sixties Relic SAVE ML (U13777237) on Tuesday, 9th June 2009

    if you just spend a few minutes every day reminding yourself to pull your tummmy in towards your spine, 


    This is a bit like to advice that whenever you are driving and have to stop for a red traffic light, do your pelvic floor excercises until the lights change.

    Excellent advice.

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    Posted by Westsussexbird or Birdy aka Westie (U6316532) on Tuesday, 9th June 2009

    Gooodmorning everyone and thanks for opening up Puzzler :0))

    Puzzler, I am sorry to read that you are having to cope with post natal depression at this stage, and you are right, the chocolate bar isn't the way forward :0))) I was describing to my DD1 yesterday how one day when I was at home with two little girls I went outside the front door to see who else was at home and there wasn't a single car in the road as everyone else was out. That was nearly 30 years ago, and it must be even harder for young mothers these days with so many of you getting back into work so quickly. I have the most understanding husband but I don't think he really understood how I felt sometimes .... and if I was in tears he hadn't a clue what to do!

    Fire-pig, I'm not often on my own these days but I know it takes a lot of determination to
    keep standards up when you are on your own. Maybe next tiime write down (in here if it would help) what you intend to eat and that might help you? That was yesterday and as you say, this is another day :0)

    Wanda ... too much good food has to be better than too much carp so well done you .... but the body still has to process it so be kind to it today :0))

    Hello Relic :0) I remember some time ago someone faced with a pot of cream, or pudding or something they really didn't want to eat but they knew if they just put it in the bin it would probably be removed from the bin at a later stage ... so they squirted washing up liquid all over it! It's good that you have a PLAN! Well done.

    Exercise advice .... yes, I remember being told to do them while doing the washing up ... I also remember being told by the consultant (after a hysterectomy) to "leave the vacuum cleaner in the cupboard and only do a little light dusting" and OH and I nearly fell off our chairs laughing ... "Why would she start vacuuming and dusting now ... when she has never done it before". Fortunately a friend and I help each other keep our houses to a reasonable standard ... I help her on Thursday and she helps me on Monday.

    Enough waffle

    :0)

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    Posted by JustJezebel (U7474974) on Tuesday, 9th June 2009

    Hello fellow MFCers!

    Well done Puzzler, Sixties Relic and all today's 'losers'. Like Fire-Pig and Wanda, I, too, had a blip yesterday - bought and ate a Dime bar (190 cals) for no good reason, then had a handful of son's maltesers later. Don't know what's wrong with me! Anyway, weigh in tomorrow, so have already been out for an hour's hilly bike ride and have my keep fit class tonight. So if I can just stay off the snacks, I might be OK...

    JJ

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    Posted by orange pekoe (U9563764) on Tuesday, 9th June 2009

    Hello all, sounds like it was One of Those Weekends for a lot of us! I fell slave to my hormones and needed, yes, *needed* something sweet on Friday night.

    Nowt in, so I ate nearly all of a packet of raw jelly! Only "nearly" because I dropped two bits on the garden path while locking up the hens in the gloom.

    Then, on Saturday, bought some shortbread, all of which was gone by Sunday afternoon. I chose shortbread on purpose for having much less sugar than other goodies, but I know it is very high in fat.

    This comes after really not having any cravings for several weeks. By yesterday, felt a bit more back on track. One good thing about this is that I do seem to have been able to lose the cravings relatively quickly. Past efforts at healthy eating have often petered out pretty soon.

    Sorry to hear about continued PND, Puzzler. Best friend had it, it's a swine. It Will Pass. But I know it can take it's flippin time to do so. Well done on being in your target zone. Keep relishing the lovely clothes you can wear now!

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    Posted by Sixties Relic SAVE ML (U13777237) on Tuesday, 9th June 2009

    I've been buying those Snack-a-jack thingies - caramel flavoured - and having 1 packet a day as a treat. Only 100 calories but the flavour does mean they taste very naughty!

    I have managed not to have MORE than one packet a day, so far.

    Oh, I am still off the booze. I had to take antibiotics in the first week of my diet and so could have no booze. I have just carried on so far and not had any. I have been drinking low-cal ginger ale or tonic water instead. The main reason for keeping of alcohol, I feel, is not the calories in it, but the way booze makes you say "Oh sod it" and then start eating in excess!

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    Posted by Westsussexbird or Birdy aka Westie (U6316532) on Tuesday, 9th June 2009

    Auntie Prue posted this on the end of last week's thread ... it is such encouraging news that I've copied it into this thread ..... so bumping this thread up to the top.



    Delighted to announce that I am wearing a skirt that I had *never* managed to wear before.

    It is straight, beige, M & S skirt that I bought about 10 years ago - but being a classic design, I kept it. It has pockets on the hips, and I always bulged out of them, and had to breath in to do the waistband up. Now it fits comfortably, and I can wear a blouse tucked inside.

    This is a great step forward - it has been tops worn outside waisbands for a long time!


    ... and the ultimate accolade = daughter told me I was looking much thinner. I still have a long way to go - but it was so encouraging to know that the advice on this thread does work.

    I am heavier than I look, and still need to lose a stone or two.

    So KOKO

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  • Message 13

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    Posted by Auntie Prue (U1481323) on Tuesday, 9th June 2009

    Many thanks westie.

    The time has gone so quickly - that I hadn't really come to terms that it is already Tuesday!

    Weight loss may be from loss of brain cells : {

    Losing very slowly but steadily, and only weighing myself once a month so that the odd dispiriting fluctuation doesn't show up.

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    Posted by Westsussexbird or Birdy aka Westie (U6316532) on Tuesday, 9th June 2009

    Prue, I couldn't let such a super post go unnoticed by any newbies that might turn up this week :0)

    When we were talking about clothes either too large or too small last week I was thinking of trousers I probably will never wear and wondering if I should jettison them ... but they are good old M&S ones produced before they went all funny with their sizes, and I KNOW that if I were the size of these trousers again they would fit me like a glove. So I just hang onto them. A bit daft probably. Oh I don't know ... I think I'll hang onto them though losing that extra half stone to fit into othem isn't part of my plan. I was a good deal younger when they fitted me. :0)))))

    Sixties, you are working out what is suiting you at the moment, so I am certainly not knocking it. :0) But I wonder if you could possibly find something that is healthier for you to have as a treat each day? I love dried fruit which although high in calories is quite sweet and satisfying and I let myself have a few when wanting something other than something planned, also I love petit filou 'yoghurts' and I allow myself them with a couple of ryvittas at tea time. I actually look forward to having them ... how sad is that!!!

    orange pekoe, I hope the chucks enjoyed the two dropped bits of jelly :0)) Jelly flavoured eggs perhaps? You are thinking about what you are eating and that is the most important thing I think. It's that mindless 'spur of the moment eating' that I find so difficult to cope with and it is so helpful having this thread to come to to compare notes and commiserate and get the encouragement to carry on carrying on.

    :0)

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    Posted by Auntie Prue (U1481323) on Tuesday, 9th June 2009

    Westie makes a good point via her trousers dilemma.

    It isn't reasonable to get back to the size and shape we were when we were 20.

    I think there is some truth in (was it Barbara Cartland who said it?) that after a certain age, you can either have a beautiful body or a beautiful face.

    Of course, we are all beautiful here, so perhaps not relevant after all ; )

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    Posted by countrypug (U9227943) on Tuesday, 9th June 2009

    Afternoon all, and thanks for opening Puzzler. Sorry to hear the PND is still troubling you, and I hope you are getting help with it from the medicos.

    I think that your last sentence there could be another mantra Auntie Prue - "we are all beautiful here". (WAABH?)

    Well done to all posters so far, as even those of you who have not had the best weekends are sounding like you are positively dealing with it. I am happy to report half a pound off. This is great for me, as it is the second weekend off I have managed to lose weight (more socialising and drinking, and eating out on weekends off). I am now only half a pound from my next mini target which is the new stone zone. The running has definitely kicked my metabolism into a new spurt of weight loss which is good, so I will keep it up. I am registered for the race for life in a couple of weeks, so will try to run as much of it as I can.

    The old clothes fitting again is so satisfying isn't it? I have got back into several items that were lingering in my wardrobe for quite some time, but now don't have anything that is too small for me, which is great, as I can go clothes shopping before too long!

    I hope we all have a positive week, take care of yourself Puzzler, as well as those girls of yours, and KOKO to all others!

    Pug x

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  • Message 17

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    Posted by Westsussexbird or Birdy aka Westie (U6316532) on Tuesday, 9th June 2009

    Well done Pug :0)

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  • Message 18

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    Posted by Westsussexbird or Birdy aka Westie (U6316532) on Tuesday, 9th June 2009

    Just bumping this above last week's thread ....

    .... we have strawberries in the garden now. They go well with low fat yoghurt.



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  • Message 19

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    Posted by sunlitfern (U1481854) on Tuesday, 9th June 2009

    Tue, 09 Jun 2009 18:05 GMT, in reply to westie (westsussexbird) in message 18

    Hello all

    Many good things happening in here I see.

    Not been feeling to great and my eating has been a bit hit and miss these last few weeks. Still I have only put on 1/2 lb so i am very lucky. Or as I have discussed with friends while i am eating more than usual it is still less and more healthy than it was before.

    Sunlit getting back on track

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    Posted by Auntie Prue (U1481323) on Tuesday, 9th June 2009

    Good news sunlitfern.

    I don't think huge changes work anyway - and small gradual and sustained changes seem to be more likely to last - so please don't feel bad about eating being hit and miss, if the overall picture is good.

    Life has a way of intervening with our best intentions.

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  • Message 21

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    Posted by Fire-Pig - proud to wave the protest banner (U12231213) on Tuesday, 9th June 2009

    Great that you are getting back on track, Sunlit. We'll cheer you all the way, and hold your hand if you stumble a bit more. We all have our bad times we just try to make them as short as we can.

    This morning I had very bad news about a friend's health - emergency op on Saturday to remove most of her colon and her spleen. I then had to tell quite a few more people - her church group etc. I felt quite drained by it, but now I look back on it I am pleased with myself that I didn't turn to comfort eating which I would have done a while ago.

    F-P

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    Posted by sunlitfern (U1481854) on Tuesday, 9th June 2009

    Tue, 09 Jun 2009 18:59 GMT, in reply to Fire-Pig in message 21

    Fire-Pig your poor friend, hope she is doing OK.

    Good for you on coping with it, but do take care that it don't hit you later and that you have some support too.

    I love coming back here as the welcome and support from every one are always so good.

    Sunlit

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    Posted by geepers (U6804393) on Tuesday, 9th June 2009

    Tue, 09 Jun 2009 19:09 GMT, in reply to sunlitfern in message 22

    evening all. Sorry to hear about the PND Puzzler, and the surgery for your friend, fire-pig.

    Not the perkiest poster myself - just can't get myself back on the straight and narrow and I really can't blame it on post-holiday blues any more. Have made *bad* food choices today, and have done no exercise for a week. And tomorrow I'm off to Edinburgh then London till Friday (work), so staying in a hotel and again faced by yet more bad choice potential.

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    Posted by countrypug (U9227943) on Tuesday, 9th June 2009

    Well done Sunlit, on getting back into things, and for only putting on half a pound. Maybe your eating has not been quite as bad as you think?

    Fire-Pig, so sorry to hear about your friend, and you are already doing so well for both being there and not turning to the comfort food. These things are so often the stimulus to soddit moments aren't they?

    Pug x

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    Posted by countrypug (U9227943) on Tuesday, 9th June 2009

    I cross posted with you there geepers. Sorry to hear you aren't feeling too perky, and a trip away for work almost certainly won't help, but at least you are considering your choices, which to be honest I might not do if I were staying in a hotel.

    Does either hotel have a gym or pool you could make use of at all? At least you might then feel that you could burn off some of those more calorific foods you will have to eat...

    Now I'm waiting to reply to myself, which looks really sad doesn't it?

    Flea, flea, so slow to go......

    Pug x

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    Posted by geepers (U6804393) on Tuesday, 9th June 2009

    Tue, 09 Jun 2009 19:18 GMT, in reply to countrypug in message 25

    I don't think there's a gym, pug (am flying to E'burgh tomorrow morning then on to London tomorrow evening, so same hotel both nights), but to take gym stuff would mean having more than hand luggage anyway, and that would annoy me too. There's no pleasing me at the minute, I'm afraid - I'd ignore me if I were you.

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    Posted by countrypug (U9227943) on Tuesday, 9th June 2009

    Shan't ignore you, so there.

    And I think only having hand luggage is definitely the way to go. I always find I walk miles in cities, even just onto the underground etc, so that will also burn some calories.

    From the annoyingly positive Pug!

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    Posted by geepers (U6804393) on Tuesday, 9th June 2009

    Tue, 09 Jun 2009 19:28 GMT, in reply to countrypug in message 27

    well, given I'm in London for a large part of the tube strike, I will at least be doing more walking than usual!

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  • Message 29

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    Posted by Westsussexbird or Birdy aka Westie (U6316532) on Tuesday, 9th June 2009

    Hello Sunlit ... lovely to see you and well done for not losing the plot and still managing to control what you eat to a considerable extent.

    Fire-Pig, I'm sorry to hear of your friend being so poorly. Well done you :0)

    Geepers, you will have to go with the flow if that is the way it is at the moment, but just try and make the best choices you can and limit the amount if you possibly can. You have done so well and I am sure you will be able to turn it around again before toooo long. In the hotel can you possibly decide what you are going to eat when you first see the menu and ask for slightly reduced sized portions?
    I get on quite well just having a starter and then the healthiest pudding going ... often starters seem more exciting than the main course. I am not good with buffets but I wonder if there is a way you can be careful with portion sizes if you are faced with a buffet? If the plate has a rim then perhaps decide you are not going to allow the food to spill over onto it ... all very tricky, but give it your best shot. Drink water before you go into the dining room.

    I join the annoyingingly positive Pug in saying we wish you well at the hotel and will be here when you get back :0)))




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    Posted by geepers (U6804393) on Tuesday, 9th June 2009

    Tue, 09 Jun 2009 19:34 GMT, in reply to westie (westsussexbird) in message 29

    ah, you're all very kind and encouraging. I should do some planning, you're right. So here goes - I'll arrive in E'burgh with enough time pre-meeting to go and get a salad or similar for lunch. I'll arrive in London lateish, so will either see if I can get something healthy at E'burgh airport or will pick something up on the way to the hotel (M&S at Paddington springs to mind, or Yo Sushi). Order room service breakfast as soon as I arrive (while hopefully still in the frame of mind to tick 'muesli' not 'full fry'). On a course on Thursday - we'll go out and pick up something for lunch so can aim for salad again, and I think a couple of us are going out for dinner in the evening, which won't be a grand affair. Repeat the breakfast arrangements when I get back to the hotel. And meeting my sister for a quick lunch on Friday, so again, salad or soup or somesuch. Will let you know how well I stick to this.

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  • Message 31

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    Posted by Fire-Pig - proud to wave the protest banner (U12231213) on Tuesday, 9th June 2009

    Thanks for all the good wishes, I'm trying to think positive thoughts and really need to get out of ML and get on with other things, but it is seductively easy to stay here!

    Course we won't ignore you geepers, you've been a great help to me in the past. I think of you when I shop now in the supermarket can't tell you the names I've come up with for some of the aisles. (Mind you half term week it was all just thrown together for the locusts - come and get it we want as much money as we can while you're here on holiday)

    Saw from the Rota thread that you are due for elbow surgery some time. Hope you get your date soon. I remember waiting for a date and its not much fun. Are your grumps to do with that at all?

    F-P

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    Posted by geepers (U6804393) on Tuesday, 9th June 2009

    Tue, 09 Jun 2009 19:42 GMT, in reply to Fire-Pig in message 31

    My grumps are due to all kinds of things, but not having an op date doesn't help - they called me in in April for a date I'd already told them I couldn't do, then put me back to the bottom of the waiting list when I reminded them I'd said I couldn't do it ('them' eh? what are they like?). I complained, three months ago, about being put back to the bottom of a four month waiting list, and still haven't heard anything. Didn't mean to moan quite that much! It does mean, though, that everything I get invited to do over the summer I have to prevaricate about because I don't know when I'll be armed and when I'll be armless, and that does make me grumpy.

    Do shut up, geepers.

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  • Message 33

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    Posted by Westsussexbird or Birdy aka Westie (U6316532) on Tuesday, 9th June 2009

    geepers ...that is a wonderful plan ... maybe make a note of it to have with you? You can only do your best, but it would be wonderful if you can feel really pleased with yourself when you get back.

    Life isn't divided up into at home and away as far as our health is concerned .. our bodies need the same nutrients and roughage etc regardless of whether we are staying in a hotel or snug at home.

    Fire-Pig don't beat yourself up ... :0)


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    Posted by Fire-Pig - proud to wave the protest banner (U12231213) on Tuesday, 9th June 2009

    I know about that prevarication geepers. 3 years ago I was in the same state for a varicose vein op - I had been told the veins were 'incompetent below the knee' a lovely expression. Now I was coming up to taking a senior position in a voluntary organisation with two very big days. The first when I would be given my collar of office and address the troops and spur them on to bigger and better things. You've guessed it the date came for two days before that date! I had to refuse it hoping I wouldn't be sent back to the bottom of the list. I wasn't and was operated on the following month - couldn't have been a worse month from the paid work perspective but still. The post op check was due on the second big day for the voluntary organisation so again I had to postpone. When I did have the check up I think they forgot that it was then 8 weeks rather than 6 weeks post op as they got everyone in to admire my leg and the healing!

    Now Fire-Pig get out of ML and get down to work!

    F-P

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    Posted by Westsussexbird or Birdy aka Westie (U6316532) on Tuesday, 9th June 2009

    geepers, my daughter had a letter from a hospital to go and have a mole removed and we turned up on May 7th which as it turned out was in about 3 weeks time. Thankyou Tony Blair we said!

    When we got there they said she wasn't on the list for that day, and it turned out she was May 7th the following YEAR!!! It was all to do with government waiting lists ... if you were on the waiting list then the government couldn't say it was dealing with patients in a given time, but if you had a date then you were no longer on the waiting list even though you would have to wait over a year for the appointment!

    I got really angry and said that she would be at uni in Leeds by the next May, and they put her on the end of that day's list! We just had to hang around which wasn't hard as we have a camper van. We went and played cards together and chatted all day til they called her in. Perhaps you should just turn up!

    :0)

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    Posted by Sister Primrose of the Red Tinsel Flag (U5405579) on Tuesday, 9th June 2009

    And tomorrow I'm off to Edinburgh 

    Don't know where in Edinburgh you'll be but there are plenty sources of fresh fruit and veg around. Are you going to be in the city centre or at an airport hotel? City centre has a reasonable food Markies in the station. There are a couple on Princes Street but it's all but impossible to get from one side of the road to the other. The airport is not too far from the Gyle shopping centre (not even a fiver in a taxi I don't suppose.) There's a big Morrison's and a MarksandSparks there. If you're at the St Andrew's Square end of Princes Street there's a Sainos Metro type shop. There's a Holland and Barrett on Rose Street.

    PP

    ps, pleased with scales again today. Big smiles to all, losers, hoverers and gainers.

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    Posted by Sixties Relic SAVE ML (U13777237) on Tuesday, 9th June 2009

    Hi Folks.

    I had visitors for lunch and made a really lovely soup from asparagus to start with. Totally low fat - just onions, a bit of veggie bouillon, a bit of potato, lots of asparagus, salt and pepper.

    I whizzed it up with my blender thing then added a drop of milk at the end.

    It was absolutely delicious.

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    Posted by Westsussexbird or Birdy aka Westie (U6316532) on Tuesday, 9th June 2009

    Glad you are pleased with the scales PP :0))

    Sixties, that sounds really yummy. We tried to grow asparagus once and after about 3 years got 3 spindly spears! We have clay in our garden and apparently asparagus likes sandy soil!

    Night night Peeps. Puzzler, I hope you are ok :0))

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    Posted by puzzler76 (U3733897) on Wednesday, 10th June 2009

    Morning folks, I'm really sorry not to be a better hostess. It looks as though there's a lovely positive feeling again this week, with even those of us who are struggling trying to plan ways to get back on the straight and narrow.

    I am giving myself a hard time at the moment, everything that isn't perfect has 'gone wrong', everything that 'goes wrong' must be my fault. I think I'll take myself back to the docs. Thanks for your good wishes, and please forgive me for not replying to you all individually.

    Puzzler

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  • Message 40

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    Posted by Sixties Relic SAVE ML (U13777237) on Wednesday, 10th June 2009

    I am giving myself a hard time at the moment, everything that isn't perfect has 'gone wrong', everything that 'goes wrong' must be my fault.  


    Now just stop it puzzler! Repeat after me:

    I am a really nice person.
    I am a really nice person.
    I am a really nice person.

    And don't stop until you believe it.


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  • Message 41

    , in reply to message 36.

    Posted by geepers (U6804393) on Wednesday, 10th June 2009

    Wed, 10 Jun 2009 08:29 GMT, in reply to Primrose Path in message 36

    thanks for that PP (just had to pop in cos I was checking in on-line) - it's a bit whistlestop, but getting bus from airport to Waverley, then walking round to Regent Road so will check out that end of Princes Street.

    and a hopefully cheering (but not too cheery cos that's irritating) wave to Puzzler - it's *not* your fault, and perfect is way way over-rated.

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  • Message 42

    , in reply to message 39.

    Posted by Westsussexbird or Birdy aka Westie (U6316532) on Wednesday, 10th June 2009

    Dear Puzzler, I hope you have been able to get a doctors appointment and will find it helpful.

    Being a mum to young children and keeping an eye on a home and husband can be a real juggling act and at times seem really repetitive despite the joy of living with tiddlers who think the sun shines out of your orifices. It can feel as if you are trapped inside a cage and perhaps things seem less fun than you might like. A lot of us will have a little idea of how you may be feeling.

    I realised I needed to do something about it and for me the answer was to run my own little business from home. I advertised in the local newspaper that I bought and sold secondhand baby/toddler equipment and it worked really well.
    I ran it from the garage, and the phone rang lots and I felt reconnected. I would pop round to the house of whoever was selling stuff in the evening when OH was home, and have people coming to my garage to buy during the day. I was thinking the other day that in this economic climate it would probably be a business that would succeed at this time. It was the one thing I felt I knew something about ... have a baby and an 18 month daughter. Of course they benefited as they got loads of toys this way and clothes etc. I ran the same little ad for about 6 weeks (I think I got one week free) and then would put in a big one listing anything I wanted to shift. I made about £60 some weeks which going back over 20 years ago was not to be sneezed at.

    I'm only telling you this as perhaps there is something new you can introduce into your life to
    give it a new slant ... without affecting the equilibrium of your home life.

    Westie :0)

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  • Message 43

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    Posted by Sister Primrose of the Red Tinsel Flag (U5405579) on Wednesday, 10th June 2009

    I've just found a new set of medical recommendations on weight gain in pregnancy depending on the patient's BMI at the start of pregnancy, which I thought might be of interest.

    BMI less than 18.5, weight gain of between 28-40 lbs over the whole pregnancy, about 1lb a week in the second trimester and 1.3lb a week in the third trimester

    BMI 18.5-24.9, weight gain of between 25-35lb over the whole pregnancy, about 0.8lb a week in the second trimester and 1lb a week in the third.

    BMI 25-29.9, weight gain of between 15 and 25 pounds over the course of the pregnancy, about 0.5lb a week in the second trimester and 0.7lb a week in the third.

    BMI greater than 30. weight gain of between 11-20lb over the whole pregnancy, about 0.4lb a week in the second trimester and 0.6lb a week in the third.

    These come from the American Institute of Medicine of the National Academies which is a US Gov't funded body. I came across them in a professional capacity, they are being adopted by one of the two-in-the-UK ante natal clinics run for women with BMIs over 40.

    PP

    ps - not posted with a view to making anyone feel bad about what they did or didn't/are or aren't managing in pregnancy. I just know that there is a dearth of concrete advice and thought it might help.

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  • Message 44

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    Posted by Auntie Prue (U1481323) on Wednesday, 10th June 2009

    Primrose - your post reminded me that I was at my lightest adult weight following the birth of my twins, 30 years ago.

    I had been trying to keep my weight down to the then guidelines for a single baby!

    Not the most conventional way to lose weight - but it worked a treat - sad that it all went on again almost immediately.

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  • Message 45

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    Posted by Westsussexbird or Birdy aka Westie (U6316532) on Wednesday, 10th June 2009

    I remember asking a consultant how much a womb weighed ... hoping I would lose a stone overnight post operatively!!!

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  • Message 46

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    Posted by Auntie Prue (U1481323) on Wednesday, 10th June 2009

    I seem to remember that about half the weight is the baby. The rest is placenta, fluid etc - but you get to keep your womb, westie ; )

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  • Message 47

    , in reply to message 46.

    Posted by Westsussexbird or Birdy aka Westie (U6316532) on Wednesday, 10th June 2009

    I asked the question prior to having my womb removed .... the best thing I ever did .... though sadly I didn't lose much weight as a result! :0))

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  • Message 48

    , in reply to message 47.

    Posted by Auntie Prue (U1481323) on Wednesday, 10th June 2009

    Rotten luck, westie.

    Life is just not fair, is it?

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  • Message 49

    , in reply to message 48.

    Posted by Sixties Relic SAVE ML (U13777237) on Wednesday, 10th June 2009

    What have you all had/are about to have for lunch?

    Me - 2 mini pita breads stuffed with salad and a bit of smoked salmon (leftovers from yesterday).

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  • Message 50

    , in reply to message 49.

    Posted by Auntie Prue (U1481323) on Wednesday, 10th June 2009

    I have just made some soup - about to whizz it up. For two of us: a leek, two shallots, one garlic clove, some needs eating up fennel. Approx 1tsp olive oil and a veg stock cube in water.

    Defrosted a couple of home made bread rolls for us. I will have half a roll and OH one and a half.

    Tonight we are having salmon, asparagus and strawberried for pud. That is weight loss the easy way ; )

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