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MFC/Healthy Eating 29 September 2009

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  • Message 1. 

    Posted by villageschoolmaam (U11233398) on Tuesday, 29th September 2009

    Greetings!

    A very brief but very warm welcome to the Mustardland thread for healthy eating. The clue’s in the question really – we exist to offer mutual support and encouragement in our daily campaign to eat well. Some of us are trying to lose a lot of weight, some a little, and some lucky so-and-sos are seeking to maintain their hard-won svelte physiques. It doesn’t matter – everyone’s welcome. We have just a couple of basic rules. We’re all about encouraging each other, so please don’t mention real weights or sizes, as one person’s starting point may be another’s destination. We don’t pledge allegiance to any weight-loss or nutrition system although a number of us use clubs and systems with great success, but do feel very free to share your tips. You’ll be amazed at the practical, cheerful advice on offer here.

    Tuesday is often the day when people post their losses, gains or maintains (and watch out for a smug posting from me below). Wednesday has been a day to post your food diary as a little reality check and chance to share your positive tips with others.

    Some folk like to lurk while they’re deciding whether or not to join us. Can I encourage you to come on in? Maybe the weight’s been creeping (back) on and you feel the need of some support. Just push that door open and poke your head round. You’ll be among friends, I guarantee it. And in case you need motivation – it’s about 12 weeks till Christmas. There – I said it!

    Here are links to our sister threads for some more brilliant ideas for eating well and living a healthy lifestyle.

    Katy Tulip's MFC/Healthy Eating cookbook, for delicious recipes and eating tips:


    and GEm's gym, for ideas on exercise:


    There's also the rota thread if you feel you could open up for us one morning:


    Last but not least, our motto:
    KOKO - Keep On Keeping On!

    The MFC is open for business...

    villageschoolma'am

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    Posted by villageschoolmaam (U11233398) on Tuesday, 29th September 2009

    Morning all!

    Yippee!!! My little gadget tells me I've lost four pounds in seventeen days, two pounds over the last week. That sounds just bang on.

    So this week's tip - log what you put in your mouth! My little app (sorry, don't know how I can do this without advertising) keeps a running tab and shows you how many calories/units/points etc you have to go. You can log in exercise too, and I think my minimum of half and hour's walking each day is bearing fruit too.

    Ooh, I just love that graph. There's a long way to go but seeing the line head south is fab.

    Tough week ahead cyberfriends - skool inspection. Should be ok as it's a brilliant school, but it'll be stressful, and we all know what that can lead to.

    See you later losers!

    KOKO

    vsm xx

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    Posted by Westsussexbird or Birdy aka Westie (U6316532) on Tuesday, 29th September 2009

    Thanks for opening up VSM. I wonder whether you could put a link to your gizmo? It is obviously helping you a lot isn't it.

    ;0)

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    Posted by villageschoolmaam (U11233398) on Tuesday, 29th September 2009

    Well, it's for a certain brand of phone made by Apple, just to put my cards on the table and probably break all kinds of rules. Sorry! It's a little cheapo app called Tap n Track and as you might guess it's from across the pond, so brands etc are US rather than UK. You can usually find an equivalent or just put in ingredients for a meal instead. I also have one called Track Weight. I'll see if there's an online link, because you might be able to get one for the PC.

    It's very good for the calling of bluffs! I'm very self-deceiving at times, in denial about how much I'm eating.

    Oooh, another tip. This really is great for me. After dindins, I do a fiendish Sudoku (using the wee machine again) before having even a tine sweet treat. 15 minutes or so later (the machine gives me hints, I can't finish them otherwise), hey presto! I realise that I'm actually full and don't want whatever it is. Feeling the 'full' signal is one of my big issues.

    Here endeth the sermon! I must sound like the new convert. But I'm really grateful for the help.

    All well with you, westie?

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    Posted by Westsussexbird or Birdy aka Westie (U6316532) on Tuesday, 29th September 2009

    That's interesting VSM. Thanks.

    Yup I'm fine and I'm just off to make porridge. Scales are being ignored til the end of the month but if my tummy rumbling is anything to go by, I am on track!

    :0)

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    Posted by puzzler76 (U3733897) on Tuesday, 29th September 2009

    Morning all, a slightly remarkable maintain for me this week, which I'm very pleased with.
    Puzzler

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    Posted by JustJezebel (U7474974) on Tuesday, 29th September 2009

    Hey all!

    Just popping in to report a loss of just over a pound - not earth-shattering, but definitely an improvement on the plateau I've been occupying recently.

    Will check in later.

    JJ

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    Posted by Fire-Pig - proud to wave the protest banner (U12231213) on Tuesday, 29th September 2009

    Bookmarking here - will be in later. Well done VSM, whatever floats your boat as they say - I can't imagine myself ever coping with a phone like that! I agree with Sudoko etc - actually it is one of the ways I know I really am knackered when I can't do them.

    Off for a routine eye test now, see you later!

    F-P

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    Posted by Mermaid the Swishy-Fishy-Tailed Wise One (U10731448) on Tuesday, 29th September 2009

    Tue, 29 Sep 2009 08:36 GMT, in reply to puzzler76 in message 6

    According to my scales, I've knocked 2lb off my aim of 10lb by Christmas since I joined this thread just over a week ago.

    I doubt I'll keep dropping at that rate, but I'm getting into better habits at least.

    Got to be careful today not to 'comfort eat' as I'm feeling a bit low mentally. Will try to have sensible comfort food.

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    Posted by flutter-by (U2729197) on Tuesday, 29th September 2009

    A loss for me - 500g off, and only 900g to go to the elusive target that I have been hovering above for the last two months. Which is probably a fair result for the week.

    Some good points - not snacking nearly as much between meals, not picking at things in the kitchen (still need to sort something out to snack on during cooking, must eat fruit or veg not dates), limiting the cakes (baked 12 muffins, eaten two so far (one a day) and there is only one left)...

    Some not so good points - portions too big, eating things just because they're there at meal times, not enough water.....

    But getting back into the swing of being sensible, which is the right way to go. Might investigate on-line trackers and the stuff, I like gadgets!

    F-b

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    Posted by maria_sedgegrass (U2267184) on Tuesday, 29th September 2009

    Morning all. You're an amazing lot, chatting away on here, encouraging each other while I lurk (actually probably skulk) in the background. It feels a bit like watching the big girls play! (No, that's not a criticism about cliqueiness, just my reserve). Anyways, I'm putting my hand up today to a decent loss which puts me right on the cusp of a New Stone Zone. I've been hovering around the same couple of pounds for ages and I'm so pleased to have made it to a lower figure at last.

    Cheers, my dears

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    Posted by Miftrefs Laura in Lothian bufily ftitching (U2587870) on Tuesday, 29th September 2009

    Tue, 29 Sep 2009 10:27 GMT, in reply to maria_sedgegrass in message 11

    Well done everyone, posters and lurkers alike!

    I'm still sitting in my Blah-stone-7 to Blah-stone10 zone, for the sixth week running, and am considering stopping weighing myself! A maintain on the tape measure, not even a quarter-inch change, all the same - which is a bluddy miracle if you ask me, given the food (lots) and exercise (little) of the past week after bad work-news and the week before that of coldiness!

    More important to me than weight-changes is that yesterday I Made Some Oatcakes!!

    This is the first time in a couple of weeks - I've just been too lazy and uninspired and greedy.

    But yesterday I melted one teaspoon of lard in a heavy large frying pan, turned off the heat and added one and a bit teacups of ordinary porridge oats, stirred them round to absorb the melted fat; then I added a splooosh of hot tapwater to make it into a dough which I then splatted with my knuckles til it was right across the pan, to the edges, all dimpled from my knuckles; put the heat back on again, on medium and left it for 10 minutes or so til the edges curled up and shrank away from the edges. I used a fishslice to mark lines across making eight 'triangles' and lifted it out to cool on a baking-rack.
    Lunch was four of them with sliced raw onion, thin slice of cheese and thin slice of salami. Gorgeous!

    A shame, really after that, to admit that breakfast this morning was an energy drink and a great wodge of marzipan... oops... I need to learn to discuss its career options with the marzipan like WildMarjoram does with the biscuits...

    Keep On Keeping On, all!

    laura

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    Posted by Fire-Pig - proud to wave the protest banner (U12231213) on Tuesday, 29th September 2009

    Laura, I'm off work tomorrow and will try your oatcakes then, I hope.

    VSM, I hope I wasn't too dismissive of your gadget earlier, I've reread it and it sounds a bit abrupt, sorry.

    Congrats all you losers - this is one place where it is good to be called a loser, I will weigh on Thursday, but am not very hopeful, if I have a maintain for the month I will have achieved something.

    Family update - EP still has heard nothing, so he's sending a chaser email today. Little Miss is sporting a bright purple cast and no longer thinks it her favourite colour! Her colouring books have arrived already so good old Royal Mail!

    F-P

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    Posted by countrypug (U9227943) on Tuesday, 29th September 2009

    Hi folks. Thanks for opening up VSM, and good luck for the inspection, although I'm sure you don't need it, as all will be in splendid order. I rather like the sound of your gizmo, I like to see graphs, but haven't ever dared enter my weight etc on the computer in case other people get in there!

    Westie, sounds as if all is well with you, and you are on track with your monthly weigh in. Puzzler, good news about the maintain, you are doing so well.

    JJ, a pound off is a pound off, so well done. F-P, hope it is good news both for EP and for the weigh in on Thursday. It is so annoying when companies don't respond when they have promised to do so isn't it?

    Mermaid, a fantastic start, well done. Take care of yourself and enjoy your healthy comfort food. It will start to become a habit soon to eat the healthier options - although sometimes I forget that myself ;-(

    Fluts, I hope that target comes into view soon. You seem to be doing really well considering you are weaning Owen, so you must have cut down quite a bit - or have you upped the exercise?

    Maria, I hope you won't lurk too much and will come in more, as we'd love to see you. Well done on losing a bit more. Why is it that we seem to get close to something like a new stone zone and everything stops - so maddening. Laura, at least you haven't put any major pounds on, so that is fab considering the external forces you have had to contend with recently. I think your oatcakes sound great, but I'm a little concerned I might be tempted to eat the whole lot whilst warm.....


    I've managed to lose another of the holiday pounds, thank goodness. I'm a little surprised I have actually as I know I could have done better, but it spurs me on for this week. I really need to try to get back below that stone zone (I was comfortably below it before my hols). I'm really relieved to be losing again though, as I had a small fear that I was about to slip into old ways and creep back up, undoing all that good work. Thank goodness for you lot, as posting here has kept me largely on the straight and narrow, the Eye of Mustard shining bright in my kitchen, right at the fridge!

    Phew, long post. KOKO to all.

    Pug x

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    Posted by Westsussexbird or Birdy aka Westie (U6316532) on Tuesday, 29th September 2009

    Thanks for the encouragement Pug ... and well done you.


    The good thing about Laura's oatcakes is it wouldn't be the end of the world if you did eat them all! A large helping of porridge oats! I wonder if olive oil will work as well.

    Well done Peeps :0)

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    Posted by Miftrefs Laura in Lothian bufily ftitching (U2587870) on Tuesday, 29th September 2009

    Tue, 29 Sep 2009 13:55 GMT, in reply to westie (westsussexbird) in message 15

    The good thing about Laura's oatcakes is it wouldn't be the end of the world if you did eat them all! A large helping of porridge oats! 

    Well, quite! It's kind of baked porridge, yeuch how horrid that sounds!

    I have made them with only oats and water, but they are really brittle and only for immediate eating - taste lovely but can't be kept and don't break neatly into sections. If you really wanted low-fat ones, though, you could do that.

    You can also add seasonings to taste - paprika sprinkled in, or grated cheese mixed in - or cinnamon, nutmeg, a tiny bit of brown sugar... all kinds of variations.

    I know Nairn's are lovely too, but I find the ingredients' lists on bought oatcakes too off-putting - and although olive oil will work to make them, most of the bought ones use palm-oil which is about as unhealthy as an oil can get (seriously I feel a teaspoon of lard is healthier!) but more worryingly for me, palm-oil is a cause of horrendous environmental damage, and although I can't save the world and myself, and I'm no saint, I prefer to make my own so I know what goes in!


    Breakfast may have been bad, but I've had a Proper Lunch:

    - homemade oatcakes with cheese, onion and salami
    - handful of almonds, hazelnuts, walknuts and brazil nuts
    - big handful of raisins
    - two apples, quartered
    - two homemade smallcakes*

    A good bit healthier!

    *smallcakes are little round flat biscuits, not cakes. It's a 16th-century recipe I'm playing with. Flour, butter, egg-yolk, sugar, cream, sherry, tons of currats, and nutmeg, juniper berry and caraway seed in tiny amounts. They sound very rich but you make them tiny and they were meant for a treat, which helps!

    Laura

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  • Message 17

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    Posted by Auntie Prue (U1481323) on Tuesday, 29th September 2009

    Well done, Mermaid - you will be losing fat now, so it will slow down - but at least your getting rid of the bad stuff!!

    Also - you will be using up loads of energy sewing that blanket up - so that will help too : )

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    Posted by sunlitfern (U1481854) on Tuesday, 29th September 2009

    Tue, 29 Sep 2009 16:43 GMT, in reply to Auntie Prue in message 17

    Hello all looks like a good week for everyone so far.

    I have had a good one too, 1/2lb off. Still have hacking coff but it is slowly getting better so not much exercise going on. I am still walking but not gyming at the moment.

    Sunlit

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    Posted by flutter-by (U2729197) on Tuesday, 29th September 2009

    Mmmm - I might need to have those sometime soon! I could do them for tea, but I had sort of promised myself cheese on toast with a big salad as I am on my own and can do that sort of thing. Maybe I should do nice warm oatcakes instead. Dilemmas......

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    Posted by Mermaid the Swishy-Fishy-Tailed Wise One (U10731448) on Tuesday, 29th September 2009

    Tue, 29 Sep 2009 17:42 GMT, in reply to flutter-by in message 19

    no brainer here - cheese on toast, any time!

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    Posted by flutter-by (U2729197) on Tuesday, 29th September 2009

    That's what I decided too - it's great!

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    Posted by Mermaid the Swishy-Fishy-Tailed Wise One (U10731448) on Tuesday, 29th September 2009

    Tue, 29 Sep 2009 18:03 GMT, in reply to flutter-by in message 21

    Congratualtins on the Right Decision, flutterby.

    Ham (home cooked and not much left from yesterday) egg (free range) and baked beans here. Followed by blackberry and apple crumble.

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    Posted by villageschoolmaam (U11233398) on Tuesday, 29th September 2009

    Evening all and welcome (back) to various folks!

    Congratulations to all you losers, notably WindfarmMermaid. I don't think our threads have crossed before.

    I'm very tempted to try those oatcakes as I just love them, and am also very wary of palm oil. I suppose it's cheaper. Must try the recipe, Laura-in-Lothian!

    Aren't those new stone zones great? I've got a little target in mind for the skool formal in three weeks or so, so keep rooting for me.

    I'm posting instead of doing the sudoku, and listening in to TA as well, and the time spent is allowing my tum to feel full, so no more food for me! Then off for a walk in the last of the light. Looks as if it's going to rain though...

    KOKO chums,

    vsm xx

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    Posted by Mabel Bagshawe (U2222589) on Tuesday, 29th September 2009

    Tue, 29 Sep 2009 19:39 GMT, in reply to villageschoolmaam in message 23

    Still not quite on the straight and narrow - am stressed cause of things at work and hence not sleeping right and the food option is all too easy to go for. Not helped by unexpected visitors on SUnday who decided to bring lunch items with them. Managed not too eat that many mini pasties and pork pies, but they were still around today, and had already fallen for two welsh cakes in the office. Managed to get the children to polish off most of the left overs, but I was the only one who liked the chicken tikka mini pasties. Still - only ate 2 of the 5 left, binned two and gave one to the dog (3 for her seemed like tempting fate)

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    Posted by Fire-Pig - proud to wave the protest banner (U12231213) on Tuesday, 29th September 2009

    Don't beat yourself up, Mabel. What is past is past - you did think and did bin some of them - success!

    My day was not too bad - except not enough exercise, I've got to work on that more. My other bugbear is the lust of finishing, the stir fry tonight was too much but rather than bin I had a second helping that I certainly didn't need. More concentration please, Fire-Pig!

    KOKO one and all

    F-P

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    Posted by orange pekoe (U9563764) on Tuesday, 29th September 2009

    Hi everyone, been doing lots of walking and generally being active, but am still eating too many 'extras'. This is getting a bit 'same old, same old'. September is just rammed with birthdays and stuff, so there's been all sorts of edible rubbish around, and it's coincided with me being much more receptive to it than I have been for the past few months.

    I've been actively ignoring this thread, for example. A most unhelpful mindset!

    Anyway, back to a fresh thread, so will try and convince myself to be re-inspired.

    Thinking about it, there *is* a positive. I am surprised by the amount of junk that has been calling to me, because I really felt 'cured' of those cravings, but I am definitely still eating less of it than I would have done as the old me. Which is why I'm pretty much maintaining, and not slinging it all back on.

    So it's not all bad, then!

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    Posted by countrypug (U9227943) on Tuesday, 29th September 2009

    Glad to see you back OP, and Mabel. It is all about trying to keep a balance isn't it, and that is so hard with stress about. I think being here definitely helps. I'm feeling peckish tonight, maybe because I didn't finish my baked potato at teatime (because I was full, and in the past I would have eaten it anyway), but also because I have a pan of soup cooking, which smells lovely!

    I think I'll go and eat some fruit, there is a mango in the fruit bowl that is ready to go, and have a cup of tea, and go to bed feeling virtous and not too full (which I feel I have not done often enough recently)

    Pug x

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    Posted by orange pekoe (U9563764) on Tuesday, 29th September 2009

    Thanks, Pug. You are right, I think the least helpful thing I have been doing is keeping away from this thread.

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    Posted by countrypug (U9227943) on Tuesday, 29th September 2009

    At the moment OP, this thread is so active that you can't avoid it on "my discussions" as even a day brings loads of posts to read through. If nothing else, you'll spend so much time catching up there will be less time to eat!

    Pug x

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    Posted by AlinDorset (U14147404) on Tuesday, 29th September 2009

    Hello everyone. I've braved it back for a 2nd week. Almost didn't because it all went pear-shaped over the weekend but went on the scales this morning and have lost 2lbs so pretty pleased with that. Hopefully it will inspire me to stay on the straight and narrow. On Saturday I ended up eating 2 dinners just so not as to upset anyone! We visited 1 set of friends in the afternoon and they fed us all pizza at tea time. Then moved onto other friends where we were staying the night and they'd prepared dinner for us once the little ones were in bed. Felt a bit like the episode of the Vicar of Dibley when she has to eat about 10 Christmas dinners!
    But have been focused since then, helped by thinking about the scales and reporting back here.
    Well done to everyone who has lost. Commiserations to those who haven't.
    Ali

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    Posted by countrypug (U9227943) on Tuesday, 29th September 2009

    Very well done Al - a great start, especially in the face of two dinners. Funnily enough I was thinking Vicar of Dibley before I read it in your post. At least you had an hour or two between meals if I read that correctly. You really must have been sensible the rest of the week to get the loss in.

    I must admit I nearly didn't weigh today either as I felt things hadn't been as good as they should be (lurgy, overwork etc), but was reassured (very delighted if I'm honest) to have lost that pound.

    Pug x

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    Posted by Westsussexbird or Birdy aka Westie (U6316532) on Tuesday, 29th September 2009

    Such a lot of thoughtful posts and even when more food has been eaten than you might have liked you have been able to reason with yourself why it happened. That is such a success story, it really is.

    As each week goes by slowly but surely you will see results ... it may be slower than you would like but you will get there. I have never been able to lose weight quickly. It's not a sign of failure, it is just how it is for some of us.

    Well done everyone.



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    Posted by Auntie Prue (U1481323) on Tuesday, 29th September 2009

    It's when things go pear shaped that this thread is particularly helpful.

    I made a cheesecake today - with full fat everything - and the base was ground almonds and butter!

    However, when it was cooked, I cut it up into 12 pieces and froze and wrapped each piece individually. We now have small/moderate sized portions for an occasional treat.

    ..... and it was very low GL, westie : }

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    Posted by Westsussexbird or Birdy aka Westie (U6316532) on Tuesday, 29th September 2009

    It sounds lovely and very similar to one my OH bakes using full fat cream cheese ... was yours baked?

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    Posted by witchwoman (U2992515) on Tuesday, 29th September 2009

    Hello everyone.
    I am remaining true to my Idiot Proof Diet phase 1 (well, 99% true at any rate). Congratulations to the losers, hello to the lurkers. I'm very impressed by the thoughtful eating going on round here...maybe I'm starting to think that way too.
    Auntie Prue, your cheesecake sounds blissful - where's the recipe from?

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    Posted by Mermaid the Swishy-Fishy-Tailed Wise One (U10731448) on Tuesday, 29th September 2009

    Tue, 29 Sep 2009 21:54 GMT, in reply to Auntie Prue in message 33



    Things can't go pear shaped for me - I already am.

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  • Message 37

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    Posted by Westsussexbird or Birdy aka Westie (U6316532) on Tuesday, 29th September 2009

    I was given 3 pears by a friend .. they are like bullets!

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  • Message 38

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    Posted by anagramladysin (U13783319) on Tuesday, 29th September 2009

    I'm trying to "buddy" a friend who's sticking to the Idiot-Proof .... and have plenty to lose myself. And I know that the low-carb suits me --- spent ten to twenty years slim and fit, happy and healthy, on that system.
    I am SO disheartened by posts here ..... potatoes, oats, muesli, puddings ..... even in smallest quantities these are disaster for low-carb eating.
    But I have a lot of respect for the ML knowledge.
    Please, someone, talk to me about this.

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    Posted by Auntie Prue (U1481323) on Tuesday, 29th September 2009

    It is baked, westie.

    As I said, the base is ground almonds mixed into melted butter. The cheesecake is grated lemon rind, cream cheese, double cream and eggs, with a little sweetener - but not much as we have got used to things being less sweet since going low GL.

    It would not be a good idea to have it every day - but as we keep saying, sustainability is all important, and there have to be some goodies from time to time. Being frozen forces me to plan when they are to be eaten : )

    It was very tasty with some stewed damsons.

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    Posted by Auntie Prue (U1481323) on Tuesday, 29th September 2009

    Sorry to go on about this cheesecake - but the idea of it is that it is adapted to be very low carb. I used a small amount of Splenda for sweetener.

    You would be hard pressed to find much by way of carbs in it.

    I agree that lowering carbs is the way to go; and that is part of reason why low GL works so well. However, it doesn't go to the unhealthy extremes of Atkins. It seems to me to be the best way to go for success and sustainability.

    This is the main reason why I keep saying how grateful I am to westie - because it was she who introduced me to low GL eating - and it allowed me to lose weight successfully without suffering.

    I don't really want to eat any other way now.


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    Posted by anagramladysin (U13783319) on Tuesday, 29th September 2009

    It sounds like a lovely recipe, Auntie Prue .... thank you .... have written it down.
    And thank you for the low-carb ratification!

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    Posted by Fire-Pig - proud to wave the protest banner (U12231213) on Tuesday, 29th September 2009

    Westie, I did baked pears over the weekend. Halve them, and remove the cores, put it in a baking dish, if liked splash some hooch over them. Bake in a moderate oven for an hour or so and serve with creme fraiche. The original recipe had some dark brown sugar in the core hollows, up to you whether you think you need it! Sorry I can't be more precise!

    Anagramladysin, you say

    << I am SO disheartened by posts here ..... potatoes, oats, muesli, puddings ..... even in smallest quantities these are disaster for low-carb eating.>>

    I'm sorry to read that, I, for one, believe that I cannot sustain any eating regime long term if anything is totally forbidden. I may choose not to eat something, but that is not saying it is a disaster.

    F-P

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    Posted by anagramladysin (U13783319) on Tuesday, 29th September 2009

    Hi Fire-Pig ....
    Didn't mean to sound negative.
    I do know that millions of people find their syatem in balanced eating and so on. How I wish I were one of them.
    And I also agree that banning something entirely makes it totally seductive.
    But if one is trying to low-carb, a fall from grace makes a mess of one's eating for a long time .....

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    Posted by Fire-Pig - proud to wave the protest banner (U12231213) on Tuesday, 29th September 2009

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    One of the things I have learnt here is to put mistakes, lapses whatever you like to call them, behind me. If I dwell on them then I continue to lapse, if I put it firmly behind me, then I can move on and try harder next day.

    It has helped me, I hope it can help you.

    F-P

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    Posted by sadie (U781345) on Wednesday, 30th September 2009

    FEeling fat and frumpy today....had a long day yesterday which meant I came home tired and hungry.

    Unpacked the supermarket shopping and stuck some cornish pasties in the oven. Ate almost a whole one with some beans and a bit of leftover mash. Really wish I hadn't. Feel bloated and lumpy.

    Think the real problem was I did not eat enough during the day, just a couple of ryvitas and cottage cheese and an oatcake and a nectarine, not enough energy food for a 11 hour working day.
    Team meeting today with lunch provided, will choose the healthy option.

    Not a happy bunny this morning thassorl.


    Sx

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    Posted by Wanda_Ofwandas (U2258758) on Wednesday, 30th September 2009

    Hi Sadie ... just wanted to say that was then and this is now. Onwards and downwards!!

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    Posted by Wanda_Ofwandas (U2258758) on Wednesday, 30th September 2009

    I am SO disheartened by posts here ..... potatoes, oats, muesli, puddings ..... even in smallest quantities these are disaster for low-carb eating.
    But I have a lot of respect for the ML knowledge.
    Please, someone, talk to me about this. 


    Hi there! I'm a Idiot-Proofer myself, and very happy indeed on this way of eating; I think it could hardly be easier and hardly anyone even notices I'm on any eating plan, I never mention it and just get on with it. Its being unfussy is one of the reasons I love it - I start twitching, a bit, when I'm in the company of people who obsess about what they can and can't and shouldn't have from the menu. Get over yourselves and make a decision!!! But that's just me.

    With regard to MFC - I can WELL understand why you might find the food-diary postings disheartening. It's simply that most people here happen NOT to be following a low-carb plan so their details won't apply to your method. You could, of course, try to skim past the lists of carbs if it's niggling you. When it comes down to it, the reason most people return to MFC is the mutual support, not the food listings.

    Oh - and good on you for buddying your chum. There's nothing like it. Mine happens to be Mr Wandaful, who has applied his divine chefly talents to wondrous ways with celeriac... scrummy.

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    Posted by puzzler76 (U3733897) on Wednesday, 30th September 2009

    Morning folks. We ended up eating more healthily than usual for a Tuesday last night, OH did stuffed peppers with some mince and leeks and broccoli in a thin white sauce. We shared a slice of bread to mop up the juice at the end. It does mean I won't have my usual Wednesday lunch of cold pizza but I'm sure I'll survive! We've had porridge for breakfast and I'm only going to have one biscuit at the breastfeeding café, and then only if I really feel like I need something to keep me going rather than just because they're there.

    KOKO everyone,

    Puzzler

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    Posted by Auntie Prue (U1481323) on Wednesday, 30th September 2009

    I would love to know more about this idiot proof diet. I think someone put a link here a while back - but lost in the mists of time.

    Also - does anyone have the link to the website where you can work out what your individual calorific requirement is? You put in details like your BMI and activity level, age etc.

    I do have the recipe for the cheesecake - and will post in the cook book section later on.

    Off to zoo now to meet daughter and two grandchildren. They have meercats so much excitement (although I like the elephants best).

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    Posted by JustJezebel (U7474974) on Wednesday, 30th September 2009

    When it comes down to it, the reason most people return to MFC is the mutual support, not the food listings. 

    I agree, Wanda.

    The best thing about MFC is the fellowship and support. Because we're all following our own regime, ranging from the WW, SW club approach to GL aficionados and low-carbers, there's plenty of good anecdotal advice on offer, whatever your plan.

    I've been following my own plan since the beginning of the year and have adapted as I've gone. Probably the most crucial thing is to work out what works for you, if you want to make it sustainable. I've lost my weight fairly slowly (25lbs so far), but steadily.

    I haven't 'banned' anything, just concentrated on cutting portion size down, eating more healthily and introducing a good amount of exercise into my daily routine. For me, this is because I wanted the 'diet' to become my sustainable norm, rather than something I would follow for a while before reverting to a 'normal' eating pattern. Personally, I can't imagine a life without potatoes, bread, wine and pasta, so low-carb isn't the one for me! (Though I am eating reduced quantity of carbs as part of my general cutting back).

    The exercise means I'm much fitter with more muscle definition and lower blood pressure. For me, this has been the key because I feel it gives me some positive power over shaping my body - difficult to put into words, but for me where dieting is about minimising and cutting back, working out is about maximising, building up and increasing strength. So I would always rather increase my output than decrease my input. I don't want to obsess about food, or feel that everything is a disaster because I've eaten a biscuit.

    But that's just me. We all know what works best for us, what are our triggers and danger zones etc. I admire people who can eschew potatoes. I don't have a particularly sweet tooth, so don't need much willpower to say no to a pud or ice cream!

    I love hearing other people's stories and successes - and different approaches. I do hope others get as much from this as I do. And I'm glad when members come to share their struggles - I know I appreciated the support when I was plateauing.

    KOKO

    JJ

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