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Message 1.Â
Posted by BasiainBrooklyn (U505001) on Wednesday, 30th September 2009
This thread is for those interested in running as a way of keeping fit on any level.
I recently started training for a half marathon, as a result of a recent medical diagnosis, so I have several reasons for doing this. I must admit that my primary reason is not because I enjoy running; I can't say I do actually, but I'm beginning to find things in whole experience of training with a team for charity rather wonderful.
Talk of Eddie Izzard flushed a few runners out of our midst, so I thought it would be helpful, and hopefully encouraging, to exchange information and experiences.
I went from 0 to 3.3 miles in two weeks with no problems. I find that unbelievable, but my coaches and mentors make a big deal of taking it easy and help us with body position, what to do with our arms and wrists etc etc.
I was in shock on Saturday when I finished my 3.3 as I felt I could have continued.
CinC, I know you've run marathons and Maisie just completed one, so I would love to hear more.
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Message 2
Posted by Alsdouble (U524298) on Wednesday, 30th September 2009
Hi Bash. Into running eh. Very good. 0 - 3 miles is excellent. I would struggle running from the front room to the back. Walking is bad enough. Down hill is okay. Up, forget it.
I blame the fags. But never mind, at least I know the score.
Your diagnosis. Not gonna ask you but, I wish you well. Wishes are nothing. You will be well and if you are not, someone will pick you up and carry you. No doubt about it. Something, someone always comes along. Despite all that is bad, good shines a light. And it's usually a golden light. Someone will be there.
Ah well, drunk, a little. Must go. Keep running.
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Message 3
Posted by My Mum is turning in her grave (U13137565) on Wednesday, 30th September 2009
Just popping in to wish you well Bash.
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Message 4
Posted by Looby-Lewis (U11820972) on Wednesday, 30th September 2009
Ay up Bash!
A new thread, good-o! Used to be a runner; London x3, Paris and New York marathons under my belt. These days very much a fun runner, and mainly running with ponies, due to knee problems.
Can't believe what I used to do. 5 miles at about 5am and then maybe 5k at lunchtime, or another 5 or 8 at night, and a mega commute from Cambridgeshire to West London. Mind that was 15 years ago when I was younger and fitter!
Good luck with the new thread, will pop in from time to time. It might even inspire me to get back out on the road again.
Looby -
Message 5
Posted by blimbles (U2522058) on Wednesday, 30th September 2009
Ooh Bash, me a runner too! Half marathon is my main distance - well, my fav race actually a 14 miler (around Coniston Water) which I try to do every year. I find running is a good way of clearing my mind at the end of a day. I need to run to keep fit too.
I don't run with a team or a club though, just me and I'm fine with that. Although OH runs too and we occasionally do a long Sunday run together which is good companionship although I slow him down.
In the past us runners have met in the Cyber gym thread, but this one might flush a few more out!
Really well done on your progress, keep it up. Take care to refuel food wise (but I guess you are on top of all that these days? - Hard stare...)
I do think that running (and walking) is such a natural thing. I find it almost meditative.
This is a good book to read (and it rings Als bell too)
Hope you continue to enjoy running!
Love to you and the pussies
b
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Message 6
Posted by Looby-Lewis (U11820972) on Wednesday, 30th September 2009
I used to be a club runner, and in my prime could turn in a half marathon on the basis of invitation. I remember one of the club deciding to do a half for his 40th and we just turned up and joined in. That's when you are marathon fit.
A few weeks ago I confused everyone at the stables by turning up in an ancient Folksworth 15 tee over a HH top.
Runners, in my experience, are even less bothered by appearance than horse riders. -
Message 7
Posted by BasiainBrooklyn (U505001) on Thursday, 1st October 2009
Ay oop Looby! Wow, that's an impressive list.
Now that's something I aspire to. They're all telling me that that will come.
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Wow, erm....how do you do that? Slowly? Do they trot? Sounds lovely.
Were your knee problems caused/exacerbated by the running?
Thud.
Do let us know....
Lovely to see you,
Bash x -
Message 8
Posted by BasiainBrooklyn (U505001) on Thursday, 1st October 2009
Blimbles! I had no idea. Mind you, when you're immune or numb to it, why would you pay attention to someone else who does it? Well, that's me with stuff that really bores me, my eyes normally glaze over while I nod politely especialy at gym obsessives, and until recently, ahem, runners.
I'm finding that. I love how everything falls away but I've not run on my own yet, just with my teammate in our group.
What I like about our team is the encouragement and it's not too cheesy, thankfully, although they are all really cheerful. I'm looking forward to going out on my own, and the reason I haven't yet is er...
Actually, the other thing I like is the proper training. Apparently we have a nutrition workshop coming up too, but I am much more aware of my body's needs these days,t is true, but thanks for the hard stare...made me laugh.
Bx -
Message 9
Posted by BasiainBrooklyn (U505001) on Thursday, 1st October 2009
Oh serendipity Blimbles. An ex I had dinner with last night recommended that Hurakami, it sounds rather good. Thank you for the recommendation.
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Message 10
Posted by Looby-Lewis (U11820972) on Thursday, 1st October 2009
Well Bash,
Just realised that as a Nottingham lass, I sort of speak the same language as you, being in the Potteries.
My running history goes back a good few years when I was quite a decent club runner when I belonged to a club in East Anglia.
I haven't done that much lately, as my knee plays up, so have got someone else to take the strain (see the Equestrian thread).
However, I help out at the stables, so I have to run with the ponies for children or adults that are starting out riding. Not too bad as I set the pace, often the ponies want to go faster than I do and I slow them down. Running with them in canter is challenging! I have the advantage over the younger girls though in that because I am used to distance running I have much more stamina than they do.
And no, I don't know how I used to do my old training schedule.
I used to do a run about 5am for 5 m, then go home, shower change and be on the train for 7am. Do a lunch time run. Then do another run in the evening. I don't know how I did it, I couldn't now. I was much, much younger. -
Message 11
Posted by BasiainBrooklyn (U505001) on Thursday, 1st October 2009
Now y'see, that's just impressively barmy in a wonderful and as yet unimaginable way to me Looby. Met a runner who is on our course, but with a different crew, and he said exactly that, saying how nuts it seemed to him, that someone can phone him and say "Fancy a half marathon this weekend?"and he can say yes, as if someone's asked him to go for a drink.
Well...actually, I couldn't give a monkey's while I'm training, as long as I feel comfortable but once I'm done, Icross back over Hades.
Translation please Loobs. -
Message 12
Posted by BasiainBrooklyn (U505001) on Thursday, 1st October 2009
Thanks GG, was thinking about you last night btw, as I had dinner in the same place that we went to, but it was dark and a lot cooler. Hope you're well.
Als darling,
Can you slide? Will wooden floors and rugs allow for that?
Thanks, much appreciated Als. It's no secret, I have leukemia, but am doing really well, well, obviously or I wouldn't be training for this bleedin' half-marathon. In fact I wouldn't be doing it had I not been diagnosed, that's the irony, but I want to raise money for the good people who did this years ago and bingo, the miracle drug was invented that I'm on now. No brainer really.
You big softee, mwah, keep this up and I'll award you your black belt for tree hugging,
Bash x -
Message 13
Posted by Looby-Lewis (U11820972) on Thursday, 1st October 2009
Well this thread has just inspired me to go out for a short trot round the park. Lovely smells of autumn, like Lapsong Souchong (sp?) tea.
Dog not as fit as me, but a couple of runs and that soon corrects itself.
Folkstone 15, a horrible, but necessary warm up run to the London, held near Peterborough in Jan/Feb. 2 laps of hilly/undulating terrain. The only hilly/underlating terrain there is in E Anglia. HH= Helly Hanson top. Brilliant thermal tops. Self wicking and really good as a under layer, would recommend for the cold NY winter. I wear mine under a tee-shirt at the stables through the winter.
Wore the Folkstone tee this morning by chance. Happened to be top of the washing pile. Forgot how skinny my running tights are, paired it all with a riding gilet. What a fashion item I am! -
Message 14
Posted by Curiously Frittering (U5481361) on Thursday, 1st October 2009
Great thread!
At the beginning of this week I signed up to do a 5km 'fun run' on 9th January.
I am not a runner, and have never run before.
I'll be back here for tips, etc but I'm not in ML much at the moment.
Good luck to all other runners!
Best wishes to Basia as well.
CFx -
Message 15
Posted by maisiepusscat (U11889543) on Thursday, 1st October 2009
Found you!
I am in my mid 50s and only recently done anything about keeping fit. In seven years at my secondary school I managed to evade doing a single cross country run and I put more effort into skipping games than actually doing it. And so it went on. However, I started running a year ago - mostly on my own with an Nike+iPod thingy and sometimes with a pal or my son's partner. After the Great North Run when my time was rather disappointing I am contemplating joining a club for advice, really - except I live in the NW and work in the NE so never really know where I'm going to be. So, if this thread can give me the advice I need that would be great. My biggest problem is that I can't run after eating and thus ended up running the last 5k of the GNR on empty - having used up the massive amount of carbs I ate the night before.
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Message 16
Posted by Looby-Lewis (U11820972) on Thursday, 1st October 2009
Maisie
I used to be in a running club when I was in my prime, I worked in London and my club was at home in Cambridgeshire. We were a really friendly, small group. There were some regionally 'big names' around, but we often used to adopt their slower runners in the league we ran over the winter, because we would stop to support them in, even if their own fast Harrys had been and gone.
When I moved away I didn't really pick up a club. Like you I work away from home again, and running club hours do seem to be a problem. Most meet at about 5.30 or 6, so it can be difficult to get to. But then, I used to manage it on the train in Cambridgeshire, so perhaps I could do it again with the present commute. I manage to get back once a week for an evening riding lesson. I would recommend joining a club if you can, and perhaps this will spur me on to joining a club too.
In the meantime, if we can support and advise each other here, then that would be great. One of the ladies from church did the GNR for Cafod. She came to running later in life, when she took early retirement. She has managed to find a nice ladies group which she runs with.
I couldn't eat before a big race, and can't eat before a riding competition now.
What I did find was something I picked up when I did my first marathon though. In Paris, the marshalls provided some snacks, bits of energy bars, fresh and dried fruit etc. That really helped. From that point onwards I always took some oat bars, energy snack type things in a bum bag, so I could eat as I went around and it really helped. The only time I hit the wall, was on my first London when I only had energy drinks, but no food.
Further to that when I did London, I always put my season ticket with all zones tube coverage in the bum bag too, rather than sending it with my baggage. Firstly, so it wouldn't get lost and I could get home, but mainly because psychologically, I *knew* I had the option to get out if I had to*.
Basia, when I ran NY, the residents in the residential areas were great with their Oreo's and other biscuits and sweets. Not dismillar to the GNR in that respect.
Sorry, rambling on a bit. I hope we can all insprire each other to get out there this autumn/winter. If you can do it now, you can do it anytime! -
Message 17
Posted by countrypug (U9227943) on Thursday, 1st October 2009
I'm just bookmarking this thread really, as I have taken up running this year ( much to my own surprise really). I have taken it up for partly fitness reasons, and partly for weight loss, and started on a regime of 5K in 12 weeks. This worked well, a gradual build up in times, leading to (for me), the Race for Life 5K. I'm still not sure if I enjoy the running itself, but I enjoy the feeling when I stop, if that makes sense.
I'm currently (when not afflicted with a horrible cold) running 2 or 3 times a week, usually about 5km at a time, mostly off road with the dogs. I have run on the road, but don't find it so nice having to avoid traffic. I'd really like to aim for a 10k run, but I need to find one at a time that fits with work, as well as being flat.
I have 2 work colleagues who run, one does loads, and one is like me, having just taken it up this year, so this is an encouragement.
Good luck with your run Basia, and with your continued treatment, and thanks for this thread.
Pug -
Message 18
Posted by Looby-Lewis (U11820972) on Thursday, 1st October 2009
Pug, and others on this thread
I'm glad you use the term 'runner' because that's what we are. I hate jogger. You don't 'jog' 5k. You certainly don't jog 13.1 or 26.2 miles. -
Message 19
Posted by Kris massblues (U14058894) on Thursday, 1st October 2009
ER, Looby-Lewis,
I jogged my 5k [notfun] run.
Actually, scrub that, i jogged the first 100 yards, stopped for a munch needed fag, then jogged/walked/crawled the rest of the way.
Good luck with your runs and marathon races. You have my upmost respect, even though I think you are all a tad barmy.
If all goes well you might actually inspire me to do a run next year. Or at least watch.
Bash, can't find your sponsor link hun?
kris (looking over shoulder for strange angrymanbasiaMLstalker who seems to know when this topic is discussed) x -
Message 20
Posted by scrapinthebottom (U14154127) on Friday, 2nd October 2009
Oh very glad you´ve started this thread. I need help! I`ve started running/jogging loads of times in the past years and I just can´t seem to be able to do it. I`m pretty fit, walk at least 2 hours a day, and I fail miserably when I try to run anywhere. My legs feel like lead! I can run obviously short distances (100m or perhaps 200m) but then I have to give up, is there a secret to it? Am I the only one that do it? OH is a four mornings a week jogger. Any advice?
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Message 21
Posted by Ceres Daughter (U2231349) on Friday, 2nd October 2009
Basia, thanks for starting this thread.
I am a lapsed distance runner - I have done the bonkers training, before work, at lunchtime, and then afterwork - and fitted it in round a family - my children were amazingly tolerant - I think that the running kept me a nicer person - such a good stress reliever. 5 marathons and more half marathons than I can easily remember..those were the days - whippet fit and strong and .......much much younger.
I started running at school - cross country - did not know I could run - always been a swimmer and games player with ponies and cycling up and down the vertical Devon hills to get to the village and to school. I then used running as an integral part of my rowing training (5 mile loop which we usually ended up racing around in sub 7 minute miles - at the time I had no idea whether or not that was good, we just needed to beat the men) - entered my first half marathon on a baking hot day in August just to see what it was like and whether I could do it, found that I could and I loved it. I have never been a member of a running club and most of my running partners have only ever been able to run about 5 miles (rowers).
I have been out a few times lately and my out-of date running brain naturally lets me start out at what was my warm-up/cooldown pace of 8 minute miling - but within a few yards that slowed right down. Huh!
At the moment I am on a two mile circuit and am doing this really slowly - but each time it gets a little bit faster. I am about ready to increase the distance - add another loop of the little lake into the equation. I had forgotten the joy of getting out there and just letting the brain run on neutral...bliss
Basia - I hope that your wonderful drugs do the job and that you continue to recover. Enjoy the running and the new friends that you will make with it. The running community is fantastic. [even if we are all a tad barmy!] -
Message 22
Posted by Ceres Daughter (U2231349) on Friday, 2nd October 2009
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Scrapinthebottom - the way to do it is to start off gently - run to the first lamp-post - walk to the next etc. Build up to running two lamp-posts and then walking 1 one and so on. Take it slowly and keep the distance achievable. When I was coaching young rowers we used to start off with a mile of lamp-posts. Once they could do the whole mile without walking then we gradually increased the distance. This used to take weeks or months (depending on the individual).
If you are lacking in evenly spaced markers then try a version of scouts pace - 1 min on/1 min off and then build up 2 mins on/1 min off and so on.
CD -
Message 23
Posted by Loopy_ Lou (U10913539) on Friday, 2nd October 2009
I'm a bit of a runner too.
Absolutely agrre with Ceres Daughter.
I followed the training plan for the Race for Life 5k, and it was along the lines of ,run a minute walk a minute. It's amazing how quickly you will improve.
I was able to go from nothing to a 5k in 6 weeks.
I've since done a few 10ks, and a half marathon. -
Message 24
Posted by jane (U2276921) on Friday, 2nd October 2009
I joined a running club last year and went regularly. It was great. I have jogged off and on for years, but this experience really spurred me on to run distances and speeds I would never previously have dreamed off. Family commitments on club night mean I have lapsed my membership (hopefully only temporarily).
So now I do a weekly 6 mile run round a beautiful route, and squeeze in the odd shorter jog. I have found it hard though to creep past that 6 mile/10 k distance. Any tips anyone?
I think part of my problem is weight. I am slim (size 12) and tallish, but I can't help thinking if I lost a few pounds it would all be much easier. Trouble is, I run, and then I get hungrier! (well, perhaps that should read 'greedier'). -
Message 25
Posted by Loopy_ Lou (U10913539) on Friday, 2nd October 2009
I am slim (size 12) and tallish, but I can't help thinking if I lost a few pounds it would all be much easier.Â
Your weight sounds fine.
I'm size 12, but sadly not tall, 5'3", and I managed a half marathon. I think the only solution is to gradually increase the length of the long run. -
Message 26
Posted by BasiainBrooklyn (U505001) on Friday, 2nd October 2009
Wotcha Scrap, you are me before I started training and I claim my five pairs of running shoes.
I went from nothing to running for a full 30 mins with my (brand new mentor) by my side. Here are the things she taught me on that crucial first day:
1. If you have difficulty speaking to the person next to you, you're running too fast, 'take it down'. You should be able to carry on a conversation. (That was news to me).
2. If you experience a little sickness, take it down, but don't stop. I ran slowly through feeling like I'd had enough, and the feeling passed, but it was because I slowed right down with her help.
3. If you are aware of panting, again, take it down.
4. Let your body be still, peaceful, and let your arms and legs do the work.
5. Keep your arms easy, at 90 degrees and don't let them cross over your torso, just gently, loosely, back and forth, loose wrists, nice and easy.
6. If it helps, keep your stride short at first.
7. Stretching properly before but especially afterwards is vital. Learn to do it properly. Rather run 5 minutes less and include a decent stretching session.
8. It's not a race.
I am a complete novice at this, but am finding that being taught to take it at my own pace (given that I'm still battling with anaemia) is the secret, not to compare myself to others, except to look at how others are holding their arms and bodies and seeing what exactly they are doing if it looks effortless.
Oh and my training session on Wednesday was cross-training and it was er...brutal, but I loved it. Much prefer that to running actually but they brought in a special trainer who made it fun if only because we were laughing at ourselves so much. We are being encouraged to do one thing a week that isn't running ie swimming, pilates etc to keep an all-round state of fitness. Can't believe we're getting all of this proper training for free, in exchange for raising money. Anyway, my bum ached the next day, but otherwise fine.
Like you Scrap, I was pretty fit to start off with, although I didn't know it, (from twice weekly jaunts up and down hill doing cat-feeding rounds with a heavy cart) but the stamina aspect of this all is what's fun to learn. I was rubbish at the 100m at school, but found I could do the 800 no prob.
Have early training (well,early for me) at 8.30 in Central Park with all the teams participating so it will be a chaotic free for all, am looking forward to it.
God, I'm loving this,it's mental.
Bash x -
Message 27
Posted by BasiainBrooklyn (U505001) on Friday, 2nd October 2009
CD thanks so much for your posts. Yes, the running community is a tad barmy, but in a good way, that I like anyway.
B x -
Message 28
Posted by Campbell-in-Clogs (U8123405) on Friday, 2nd October 2009
Goodie goodie, a running thread. I've just been shanghaid into leading the running team up the Cybergym but I'm not much of a team leader really, I may just sneak in here to play instead. (Hope GEm doesn't see this...)
OK, my Running CV.
Have had various flirtations with running over the years. Did my first half-marathon in 1993 when I was 30. Did a whole one in 1997 after having lapsed for a few years. The week before the big one in Rotterdam I did a 'practise' local half and completed it in just under 2 hours, my personal best. I'm now very keen to see if I can get back to this level again and maybe even to do Rotterdam again next April in under 4... I'd stopped running for a number of years as I had somehow developed breathing problems which reduced me to a wheezing wreck after just a short distance. (And I've never smoked - snotfair!) Recently I've finally got a diagnosis and now have various inhalors which have literally given me a new lease of life. It's like having new lungs! Or at least re-possessing my old ones. I'm reading a book at the moment which is definitely worth one of my read-or-I'll-shoot recommendations.
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Message 29
Posted by BasiainBrooklyn (U505001) on Friday, 2nd October 2009
Snork. -
Message 30
Posted by Campbell-in-Clogs (U8123405) on Friday, 2nd October 2009
For anyone who wants to read more about my running schedule I bore-for-Scotland on the subject at:
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Today's entry/book promotion:
46 min
Start 15.00
Had my new dinky wee headlamp and my flourescent vest ready to get up and run in the dark this morning but just couldn't face it when the alarm went off... I know I know, 'not feeling like it' is no reason not to go out but in my defence (yer honour) I had been up late reading Christopher McDougall's amazingly good book and had just got to the bit (Chapter 25) where he explains why the shock-absorbing shoes we all pay loads of money for are actually bAd for us! Being a natural cynic I seldom come across things which truly shock me but this was one of them. I'm usually pretty good at spotting marketing ploys and avoiding them but this one has slipped so seamlessly into current ways of thinking about running that I've not only completely swallowed it but also passed it on to others. First thing I do when someone says they're starting running is 'Make sure you have good shoes.' I was so astonished by all the things I read that I couldn't sleep for ages for thinking about it all. So no wonder I couldn't manage to get out of bed a few hours later.
Anyway, today's run. There are lots of freshly-ploughed fields around the Eng at the moment so spent a good bit of it plodding through them. Not quite as nice as running along the sea shore but the effect on my legs is much the same I imagine. I was pleased to notice that I didn't have any trouble from muscle pain in my thighs after yesterday's unexpected 45 minute ride on Gypsy, the biggest horse in the RDA stables I help out at one morning a week. Previously when I've ridden after a long interval I've always been very aware of it the next day - this lack of effect must mean that my leg muscles have become stronger through running. -
Message 31
Posted by Campbell-in-Clogs (U8123405) on Friday, 2nd October 2009
Scrap, about having problems running in the beginning - I remember my most triumphant moment was when I learned how to breathe properly and ran my first whole kilometer without stopping. The secret is to breathe out forcefully. Breathing IN is an reflex so you don't have to think about that but if you consciously breathe out as much as possible then you'll automatically keep taking in more air. Hmm, I don't think I'm explaining this wel... It was the same when I finally learnt to swim crawl. It's the breathing out that's the thing.
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Message 32
Posted by scrapinthebottom (U14154127) on Friday, 2nd October 2009
Thankyou everyone, have read and will need to re-read to fully take on board all the advice, but am inspired and will put it all into practice tomorrow, slowly, very slowly, taking extra special care to breathe out consciously. If I don´t get too far I´ll report on my success.
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Message 33
Posted by Campbell-in-Clogs (U8123405) on Friday, 2nd October 2009
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Message 34
Posted by Ceres Daughter (U2231349) on Friday, 2nd October 2009
Campbell-in-clogs (conjures up images of tartan and windmills)
cross training means training in anything other than your particular sport - so rowers might swim or cycle or run - runners might swim or cycle or row and so on. It gives your body and mind a change and enables your muscles to work in different ways.
In some circles cross-training can also mean 'circuit training' whereby you go round a series of exercises (sit-ups, star-jumps, press-ups, rope-climbing etc) and do that exercise hard for (say) 1 minute and then move on to the next exercise - if the circuit is properly designed you will work different sections of the body in turn i.e. legs; abs; whole body; arms. Sometimes these circuits just use your own body-weight as the resistive force and sometimes they will use weights as well.
This is the right time of year for circuits - building up strength and stamina in the autumn/winter.
Some people view circuits as strictly for masochists! Once the initial shock is over they are great fun and have the added advantage of (usually) being run in a nice dry, well lit gymnasium/sports hall. Very good for getting all levels of the club together for joint training.
Hope that helps.
CD -
Message 35
Posted by BasiainBrooklyn (U505001) on Saturday, 3rd October 2009
Oh yes CD, yes, I meant to say that my cross-training this week was circuit training, duh, thanks for that. Anyway it was circuit training with no actual circuit, just brilliant use of a bit of park space by a very good trainer. Lunges, push ups, sit-ups, walking like a duck, hopping like a frog, no really, and the frog-hop was the hardest thing anyone has asked me to do in a long time. Sheesh.
I found this from one of my trainers in an email, which er I hadn't bothered to read, but it's interesting :
Must try that. -
Message 36
Posted by BasiainBrooklyn (U505001) on Saturday, 3rd October 2009
Help I'm scared, sitting in a school room with a bunch of raucous lunatics about to run 4 miles.
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Message 37
Posted by Campbell-in-Clogs (U8123405) on Saturday, 3rd October 2009
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that's interesting, never thought of it like that before. I'm doing a lot of thinking about making adjustments in my running style now that I'm reading McDougall's wonderful book ( eh, had I already mentioned this is a Must Read...)
During my brief membership (I'm not really a 'club' sort of person) of an athletics club in the run up to Rotterdam in 1997 the trainer did say I should hold my arms lower so I try to think of that when I remember. Elbows back is a new thing to think of. Every little helps. I'm not a natural talent so I really need to gain any speed I'm capable of from the best possible technique. -
Message 38
Posted by Campbell-in-Clogs (U8123405) on Saturday, 3rd October 2009
How did the 4 miles go then?
I've just come back from my first night run. See -
Message 39
Posted by BasiainBrooklyn (U505001) on Saturday, 3rd October 2009
Great stuff CinC.
4 miles was a doddle. And I think I enjoyed it.
Bx -
Message 40
Posted by Alejandrita (U2222432) on Saturday, 3rd October 2009
Sat, 03 Oct 2009 20:33 GMT, in reply to Basia in message 1
Hello all,
Well done Basia for your efforts on the running. Like you, I can't say I started because I like it particularly, in fact I always HATED running when I was younger.
It is addictive though, isn't it?! I run (with my dog - great company!!) a couple of times a week - for general cardio fitness to complement my aerobics/toning sessions. I don't generally do more than 5 Kms at a time, but often feel I could do a lot more. The best bit is the buzz when you finish!!
I take my hat off to all those in training for half marathons and the like. I have no such plans on the horizon, but who knows? Maybe ML will inspire me!! -
Message 41
Posted by BasiainBrooklyn (U505001) on Saturday, 3rd October 2009
Hi Alejandrita, nice to see you. Funnily enough, my running partner has just started running with her dog, a sweet rescued pitbull, and has been tying the leash around her waist, a trick she picked up from the Dog Whisperer and she said it works. Well, Tulip the pitbull likes it.
Yes, when you're done it feels so good, excl mk.
We ran in Manhattan today and some of my friends in the Brooklyn team ('obnoxious' they called us...I like it) were all complaining that we don't get half-naked men running in Brooklyn. Well, them's the breaks and most of them in the Chelsea area don't dance on our end of the ballroom anyway, so it's look don't touch. Honestly, it's the flipping last thing I'm thinking of, although there were some Adonis's. Adonii? Whatever, it's all sweat.
Bash x -
Message 42
Posted by Campbell-in-Clogs (U8123405) on Saturday, 3rd October 2009
<<< been tying the leash around her waist, >>>
Here's me and one of the summer lodgerdogs demonstrating this. -
Message 43
Posted by Alejandrita (U2222432) on Sunday, 4th October 2009
Sun, 04 Oct 2009 20:48 GMT, in reply to Basia in message 41
Adonii? Whatever, it's all sweat.Â
SNORK! Sniff...eurgh!
Thanks for the lead round waist tip - TBH I am running in open countryside so normally don't have Sombra on the lead much at all, although I will try it at some point. I think old Cesar has some good tips. Having Sombra off the lead is quite a good incentive to keep going - I let her run ahead and she keeps stopping to wait for me with a pitying look on her face.
Was planning to run tomorrow am but have put my back out, in a big way, doing some full-on gardening - OH had to help me out of the flowerbed and I've been hobbling around ever since...so perhaps I won't be going for a couple of days!! Will still pop in here though!
Night night -
Message 44
Posted by countrypug (U9227943) on Sunday, 4th October 2009
Oh dear, poor you Alejandrita, I do sympathise, as I have suffered in the past. Don't rush back too soon to the running though, let yourself recover first.
I'm a dog runner too, but like you, I tend to go for footpaths where the dogs can be off lead. I've been out this morning, after yesterday's gales and storms, it was a beautiful morning, bright sunshine. It was chilly (10C when I set out), but lovely. We went just over 5km on a riverside footpath, with only one small delay where I had to get younger dog past a very scary (to her) cow. Unfortunately when walking there last week a cow chased the dogs, so now younger one thinks they are all terrifying. She had a wide diversion round this one though, and caught up again.
Happy running all.
Pug -
Message 45
Posted by Curiously Frittering (U5481361) on Monday, 5th October 2009
Thanks for the advice re: breathing out (I know can't remember who said that - sorry).
I've not really be out in the past week - and I feel very ashamed. However it is a lovely day and I'm looking forward to going out once I get home from work this evening.
I've mapped out a 5km circular route I can use to train. I'm going to try to make sure that I do the whole route each time I go out. Obviously at first I will walk most of it and just run at intervals. However I think doing the whole route will help increase my general fitness, even if I am walking it. And hopefully I'll get used to walking that far for fitness, rather than walking to get somewhere.
I'll give it a go tonight, I've drawn it on the map, and it is a route I regularly walk different parts of, so doesn't look too daunting!
My main concern for this evening is what to wear. It is quite chilly out but I always get very warm when running. Layers are the key I believe.
CFx -
Message 46
Posted by nesta vipers (U2256451) on Monday, 5th October 2009
ain`t that the truth- love running in Central Park btw- it`s so near to where I stay now. And anyway I always feel that everyone runs in Manhattan - you`re out of step if you dont.
Not such an issue now but back in the 70s can remember the release of being able to run in NY without everyone regarding one as a freak (so different to S. London). You just wouldn`t believe the carp that used to be levelled at female runners by some in Britain in those days
(who says things don`t get better)
cheers Fiscál
ps Manhattan is nice and flat too - so much easier than Yorkshire
pps sounds like you are doing well! -
Message 47
Posted by countrypug (U9227943) on Monday, 5th October 2009
Good luck CF. I followed a training plan from a local running club (although I'm not a member), which started with 1minute run, 2 minute walk, and built up, week by week, to running up to 5km (which I can now manage). If you google, I'm sure you'll come up with something similar. I ran 3 times a week on average, with one session of another exercise, as said upthread (eg swimming).
I go for the layer approach, with a thin microfleece over my tshirt, which is light to tie round my waist if I get too hot.
I remember well saying to my mad keen running colleague that I couldn't imagine ever getting to the stage that I could run for more than 5 minutes without a walk, and she said it would soon come. And she was right, it suddenly seemed to click.
Pug x -
Message 48
Posted by BasiainBrooklyn (U505001) on Monday, 5th October 2009
I was told this would help mapping distances. I'm sure it will when I'm not so impatient.
Ain't that the truth.
Hi Norma.
Bx -
Message 49
Posted by Curiously Frittering (U5481361) on Monday, 5th October 2009
I've got a 'training plan' through the Bupa people - although I don't think much of it. I've looked at some others online too.
I've used www.walkjogrun.net to set out a few routes (inc, the 5km one, and one which I could do from work to home). Also done a route for the weekend I am away in Inverness for work. Hopefully it wont be too cold by then!
Need to get me a fleece I think.
I'm praying the 'it suddenly seemed to click' moment comes quickly!
I've promised myself a a hot stone massage - which I've been wanting for ages! - if I do this run in January in a good time.
CFx -
Message 50
Posted by maisiepusscat (U11889543) on Monday, 5th October 2009
It is absolutely true that you seem to go from hardly being able to run for a few minues at a time to running some quite sustantial distances remarkably quickly. I have to say, the first fifteen minutes or so of any run I do are still always the hardest. Then, there really is a second wind. You just have to believe it (sounds a bit cranky, I realise, as I reread this before posting).
I have had a rather major breakthrough myself. Having convinced myself that I cannot eat on the day of a run - and hence running the last 5k of the Great North Run on empty which was dreadful - I am now training after eating (albeit several hours before). It all seems to be about achieving goals.
And, if you'd told me a year ago I'd be taking part in a thread like this I'd never, ever have believed it!
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