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    Posted by Claribel (U2264645) on Friday, 9th October 2009

    Inspired by the runners' club I thought I'd dip a toe into the water (see what I did there?!) and find out whether there are any swimmers lurking in the VH.

    I used to swim competitively until I was around 16, and trained 4 times a week. Then I stopped. I've recently started again, in a public pool and am trying to go twice a week at least although I've slipped up this week (only gone once, and the pool is too busy at weekends).

    I have found that I've really enjoyed getting back in the pool. I am not by any stretch of the imagination a sporty person but I always liked the feel of swimming; it's so relaxing, even when you're working hard.

    So - down to the nitty gritty - I started off just swimming lengths but quickly got bored with that. Now I'm trying to throw in some of the old training sets I used to do, although obviously I am nowhere near as fit as I was when I was 16! It's also hard to 'train' in a public pool. It would be very helpful to swap tips with others who enjoy swimming at any level - or just to talk about swimming generally.

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    Posted by patriarchou (U11317033) on Friday, 9th October 2009

    I am suffering from chronic swimming deprivation, so please may I dip my toe in this pool?

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    Posted by Curiously Frittering (U5481361) on Friday, 9th October 2009


    Thanks Claribel for starting a very relevant thread for me.

    I'm a member of the running club because it is easier to fit in running to daily life. But I am not a natural swimmer.

    I am, however, a natural swimmer, and feel most comfortable in water. I can swim for hours, but usually stop because I have got bored, not because I am tired.

    It's frontcrawl all the way for me - breaststroke is so slow!

    I've not really got any tips except take a water, sugar and salt drink with you if you get cramp because that can help prevent it.

    I can't wait until the pool near us re-opens - so much more convenient than the one I have to go to now.

    If I'm getting bored I try to do 1 length back, 1 length front, 1 length breast, 1 length front - keeps me a bit interested for longer. But if it is busy this isn't possible because you need to maintain a constant speed.

    Oh, and try not to listen to Abba before you swim - because you will have driven yourself mad repeating the songs by the time you are finished!

    I like to do 5-10 mins treading water with no arms at the end too. Find it quite good for toning.

    CFx

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    Posted by Claribel (U2264645) on Friday, 9th October 2009

    Hello both!

    Curiously Frittering - I have never listened to ABBA before going swimming but I have all their albums so there is a danger...

    If I'm getting bored I try to do 1 length back, 1 length front, 1 length breast, 1 length front - keeps me a bit interested for longer. But if it is busy this isn't possible because you need to maintain a constant speed. Ìý

    Yes, the latter point is my problem as well. I like to try to do sets (e.g. 5 x 50 m or 5 x 100m with each 50 or 100 within a certain time) but it is virtually impossible to do that in a public pool as you are constantly bumping into people. I feel horribly inconsiderate if I try it! Unfortunately I am not yet good enough to go back to a swimming club and I work long irregular hours so it would be difficult to swim at a regular time (I try to go in the mornings before work, when I'm not in court - I'm a barrister). So anyone's tips on 'doing fitness stuff in a public pool' would be much appreciated!

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    Posted by Dunlurkin NL (U2675855) on Friday, 9th October 2009

    Not chasing you today CF. (I'm still blushing btw.)


    I am a swimmer, but I am also bliddy lazy. There is a pool 5 mins by bike from here and I have not managed to get my lazy self down there for absolutely yonks (over a year I reckon). I read about whitbyrose swimming every day and I am very jealous. Jealous of her "get up and go" as much as anything I suppose.


    I also swam competitively while at school, but I was never really any good. A relay team needed 4 people so ... And even the person coming last in the 110 yards fly scored a point for the team!

    Since then I have had periods with a lot of swimming and periods with none. I really need to kick myself into gear. I've just checked and the pool is closed this afternoon. Maybe I'll manage it next week ....


    I am fussy though. I need to be able to swim up and down without having to work my way round chattering women (and it is always women). I'm pretty slow these days - or at least I feel that I am - and swim batches of ten lengths, mainly breastroke, introducing my own variations to keep me awake. I used to do 40 lengths every time I went, but I might need to work back up to that.

    I am not a sea swimmer, though if you want to come and swim in 'my' bit of the North Sea CF I would be very willing to hold your towel!

    Dunlurkin

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    Posted by patriarchou (U11317033) on Friday, 9th October 2009

    I live in hopes that I shall be able to get back into the pool one day.
    Until a few months ago, I was (and had been for way more than half a century) a regular swimmer. For 30 of those years I also taught classes covering all ages and abilities.
    In recent years, my recreational swimming has been in public pools - which could be akin to attempting to cross the M1 on foot at times.
    My preferred schedule was to alternate between lengths (25m) of backstroke and breaststroke, with an occasional f/c length for variety.
    Depending upon time available, I would normally do 2500m or 3000m.I would then wind down with a few surface dives and floats.
    I never enjoyed competitive swimming, but I often kept an eye on the clock just to guage my own (un)fitness level, and to keep my mind occupied.
    Having said that, the drifting off into another world aspect of swimming was so relaxing that it was a part of the attraction.

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    Posted by Lady Trudie Tilney Glorfindel Maldini (U2222312) on Friday, 9th October 2009

    Hmm, I think this may be more of an inelegant belly flop than diving in....

    It doesn't look like I'll be able to discuss 'training sets' and the like with you as you all seem much fitter & more competent than I am - never mind, I love swimming and will pop in here to follow the chat.

    I've just restarted going to my local pool after a CFS/ME 'crash' earlier in the summer (caused by doing a stupid thing like going to the gym...). I'm incredibly slow, but I managed 10 lengths (20m) yesterday and I'm very pleased with that. The best bit is the sauna/steam room afterwards, and then the coffee of course!

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    Posted by Dunlurkin NL (U2675855) on Friday, 9th October 2009

    I look back with great pleasure on two very different, relatively recent, swimming experiences:

    In deepest Bavaria, in January, a couple of years ago I had just had my second ever skiing lesson. It was cross-country skiing, and the first had been the day before. To try and counteract potential stiffness I went to the public pool, which had an outdoor bit (32C) with one of those bits where the water rushes along a 'track' (forgotten the English word - we call them wild water lanes here). For about half an hour I floated around on my back going through this lane time and time again. It was snowing gently and when I screwed up my eyes I could see no buildings, just the dark night sky and snowflakes falling past the pool floodlights. Magical.


    The scene moves to Northern Greece and a 25 m hotel pool, in June this time. We were told the pool opened at 11, but a group of us who were there to work managed to persuade the man that that was ridiculous. So every morning at 7 am I spent half an hour or so in an almost empty pool, gently swimming up and down. One friend got hit on his outstretched arm by a bird swooping in for a drink.

    On reflection, I really like swimming in outdoor pools, provided the water and/or the weather is warm enough. So it'll be a bit of a wait before I can do that again I fear.


    Dunlurkin

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    Posted by patriarchou (U11317033) on Friday, 9th October 2009

    Ermintrude, one of the brilliant things about swimming is that you can enjoy it at any level of participation because you don't have to worry about keeping up with anyone else as you would in say tennis or squash.In addition,you will probably be expending just as many calories of energy in your number of lengths as a more experienced or regular swimmer may do in 5 times that number.
    I would never have been a Rebecca Adlington, but I bet I've got just as much joy out of my pool time.

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    Posted by Claribel (U2264645) on Friday, 9th October 2009

    Absolutely, patriarchou - and I'm sorry to hear you've not been able to swim lately. I hope you're able to return soon. Ermintrude, swimming sounds like great exercise for you following your recent illness. What I like about it is that you can set yourself your own targets - so if you swim 8 lengths one day, maybe you can swim 10 the next time you go. I have already seen improvement in my fitness in the 2 months since I started swimming again and it is really satisfying!

    Dunlurkin, your swimming experiences sound amazing. I would love to try that outdoor pool in the snow.

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    Posted by Bearhug (U2258283) on Friday, 9th October 2009

    it is virtually impossible to do that in a public pool as you are constantly bumping into people.Ìý

    A lot depends on when you go. Currently, the best times for me to go is on my way to work or on the way home. If I go before work, there's far more chance of having a lane to myself, or at least with only one or two others. If I go after work, then I'll probably have a lot of waiting around at the end of the lane because there are a number of other swimmers, and I find that frustrating more than anything. Going later in the morning is also nice when I've a day off. I don't go at the weekends though.

    It does help that my local pool(s) has lanes properly roped off, and marked for fast, medium and slow. Slightly annoyingly, I'm currently somewhere round the slowest of the fast lane, or the fastest in the medium lane, but that's only a problem when it's busy.

    I mostly swim in sets (partly because it's easier to count) - 100m or 200m split between frontcrawl, backcrawl and breaststroke. Sometimes I'll do legs or arms only of front or back, too. Some days I'll concentrate more on one stroke than another, but I nearly always warm up with at least 200m of frontcrawl and finish with some breast stroke. Other days, I'll just get in and swim with no breaks.

    I am considering finding out about aquarobics for next term. I have really enjoyed it in the past, but haven't done it recently partly because of time - I have a feeling it clashes with my Welsh class (or is in the day when I'm at work.) It's much more fun than normal aerobics, and if you've a history of sprained ankles or other joint problems as I do, it's non impact, so shouldn't exacerbate problems like that. Those of you who want to do exercises besides plain lengths swimming, an aquarobics class will be a good place to get ideas for what to do. But I like swimming lengths as well, it can be very meditative, just swimming up and down and counting strokes and lengths.

    I've not been swimming the past couple of weeks though, as work has been crazy busy, and I have been sleeping so badly, I just haven't managed to get up early enough. Hopefully after this weekend, when I'm not on-call again and a couple of projects have calmed down at work, then I can get back to it.

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    Posted by MV Whitby May Rose (U6862284) on Friday, 9th October 2009

    Fab, a swimming thread.

    As DL said Im a keen swimmer

    I managed twice a day most days in the summer once at around 7am and again about 9pm.

    Now that more clothing is required for going in ( travelling I mean) Im down to once a day most of the time

    I can only do breaststroke. I tend to swim for 45 minutes pretty much non stop.

    I swim in a hotel pool as the hours are better than the council pool and it is a lot quieter. I totally love it as it is really good for my mental and physical health.

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    Posted by sunlitfern (U1481854) on Friday, 9th October 2009

    Fri, 09 Oct 2009 20:10 GMT, in reply to whitbyrose in message 12

    Oh I love swimming and used to train when i was at college. I've not done much for the past few years due to sinus problems. Currently not swimming as I have had a cold/sinus problems for the past 3 weeks. Again. I am facing the prospect that swimming sets off my problems so may have to give it up. I don't want too as it is my favourite exercise.

    Many pools do early bird or late night sessions for lane swimming. I have always swam early mornings and it really sets my day up.

    Sunlit

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    Posted by Bearhug (U2258283) on Friday, 9th October 2009

    I am facing the prospect that swimming sets off my problems so may have to give it upÌý

    It is possible, but actually, I find my sinuses usually feel a lot clearer when I've been for a swim.

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    Posted by sunlitfern (U1481854) on Friday, 9th October 2009

    Fri, 09 Oct 2009 20:42 GMT, in reply to Bearhug in message 14

    Bearhug

    it's just the last few times i have been swimming I have started an infection within a couple of days. Am still hoping for coincidence and I now wear a nose clip as well as the ear plugs to stop too much water getting in. Just need this last infection to go before trying again. Am still resisting going for antibiotics but it has been 4 weeks smiley - sadface

    Sunlit

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    Posted by Judith Hearne (U7775397) on Friday, 9th October 2009

    Er, is it just me starting to notice, or is it a recent thing, that you can actually feel the stray hairs in swimming pool water brushing against you...?


    Yeuch.

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    Posted by Bearhug (U2258283) on Saturday, 10th October 2009

    Can't say I've noticed, but it might depend on the pool. Back when I was a lifeguard, we had an underwater vacuum which went in overnight.

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    Posted by MV Whitby May Rose (U6862284) on Sunday, 11th October 2009

    I managed to do the twice a day swimming yesterday after a few days off.

    I did 45 mins in the morning and 30 in the evening.

    Just back from this am's swim. I did 50 minutes. The day feels very different after a swim.

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    Posted by Claribel (U2264645) on Sunday, 11th October 2009

    Lots more messages since I last posted. Good to see!

    A lot depends on when you go. Currently, the best times for me to go is on my way to work or on the way home. If I go before work, there's far more chance of having a lane to myself, or at least with only one or two others. If I go after work, then I'll probably have a lot of waiting around at the end of the lane because there are a number of other swimmers, and I find that frustrating more than anything. Going later in the morning is also nice when I've a day off. I don't go at the weekends though. Ìý

    Bearhug, I agree it depends when you go. I don't go in the evenings at all as our pool is way too packed. I am trying to work out the best time to go in the morning. I think it is either really early (for me!) i.e. around 7 a.m., or between 8:30 and 9. I only managed once last week as things were a bit hectic; I thought about going this morning but the pool is also busy at weekends so I'm going to try for 3 days next week instead.

    it's just the last few times i have been swimming I have started an infection within a couple of days. Am still hoping for coincidence and I now wear a nose clip as well as the ear plugs to stop too much water getting in. Just need this last infection to go before trying again. Am still resisting going for antibiotics but it has been 4 weeks smiley - sadfaceÌý

    Sunlitfern, I hope the noseclip works for you. I have always worn one. I know I should try to learn to do without, but I feel more secure with it.

    I managed to do the twice a day swimming yesterday after a few days off.

    I did 45 mins in the morning and 30 in the evening.

    Just back from this am's swim. I did 50 minutes. The day feels very different after a swim. Ìý


    WR, I am really impressed with your twice a day (as you can see, I struggle to manage twice a week!). I agree that one of the best things about swimming is the relaxation factor - unless I really am completely exhausted, it always makes me feel better able to face the day.

    Right, as I had hoped, this thread has inspired me to go tomorrow morning!

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    Posted by Claribel (U2264645) on Monday, 12th October 2009

    And I did go swimming this morning. Had a sore neck when I got in so took it fairly gently, but managed 1300m. My neck actually felt a lot better afterwards. Have to get on with some work now, though...

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    Posted by Campbell-in-Clogs (U8123405) on Monday, 12th October 2009

    wow WR (what's with the lemon addition? Have I missed something?) twice a day swimming! I'm impressed! Actually I'm impressed enough with once a day, twice a day is just overkill impressive smiley - winkeye The last place I lived in was walking distance from a good pool (with use of steamrooms and sauna and a wee warm pool to play in too) and I thought I was doing well if I went once a week, or occasionally twice a week. I'm actually within walking distance of a pool here too but I just don't like the atmosphere there and the opening times don't suit me (excuses excuses...) And I always find swimming so much hassle - too much changing and drying time in proportion to the time spent actually moving in the water. I do like having swum though...

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    Posted by MV Whitby May Rose (U6862284) on Monday, 12th October 2009

    C in C

    When I went self employed last year I took out a hotel pool membership and went swimming most days. Over the summer when I dont work so much in the evenings I managed to go twice a day. Back down to once most of the time but today will be a two swim day as Im taking the day off. I love the physical and mental benefits but hate the getting chnaged bit.

    Lemon cos there are several lemon posters and I decided that it would work well in my name. I love lemons in terms of smell, taste, colour etc and I just like the work.

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    Posted by Bearhug (U2258283) on Monday, 12th October 2009

    I too swam this morning, haivng been woken early by on-call, and couldn't get back to sleep, despite having told them it could wait till I was in the office. I did 1000m, but needed to stop to go to work. My inner thighs feel like I've done about 2 miles of breaststroke rather than the 250m that I did do (mostly did frontcrawl today.)

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    Posted by sagethyme (U5272261) on Monday, 12th October 2009

    Just noticed this thread, can I join?

    At school I was quite good at backstroke and moderate at breaststroke, but was never taught front crawl and had difficulty with the breathing.

    Went to lessons at an advanced age, after dicovering their existence with the next generation. It was a revelation and teachers do not shout at paying adults!

    This thread may jerk me into a regular schedule again. It is so much worth the effort.

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    Posted by Campbell-in-Clogs (U8123405) on Monday, 12th October 2009

    Mr Clogs taught me to swim crawl a few years ago. The secret is breathing out underwater. I tended just to breath in and then hold my breath. My technique will never be great but I can do a few lengths now in reasonable form. I find it much more tiring than breaststroke though. Does make me feel like a Real Swimmer when I do it smiley - winkeye I think I still take in more air than I expel as I have to burp quite often afterwards...

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    Posted by Bearhug (U2258283) on Monday, 12th October 2009

    I think I still take in more air than I expel as I have to burp quite often afterwards... Ìý
    I just wonder how you breathe? Obviously you can't breathe in underwater, but when you take in a breath with your head above water, it shouldn't really be that different from normal breathing, and the air should go into your lungs, rather than your stomach. Do you ever get this problem with non-water exercise?

    The other thing it could be is if you have any trapped wind or anything, stretching out in the water could get things moving more, untrapping it.

    I'm just curious, because I don't remember anyone mentioning it before (though that could mean they were being polite, rather than it doesn't happen.)

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    Posted by Dunlurkin NL (U2675855) on Monday, 12th October 2009

    Pathetic excuses alert!

    No teen at home today so I didn't have to set the alarm and slept in till 8.30. Since then I have managed to make all sorts of excuses for not going for a swim today, but I won't bore you with them (nor embarrass myself at the same time).

    Tomorrow is Warm Water Day and I have a feeling they charge a lot more, even if you're not taking part in any of the activities aimed at the over-50s.

    On Wednesday ...

    I'll stop there and sneak out by the back door.

    Dunlurkin

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    Posted by MV Whitby May Rose (U6862284) on Monday, 12th October 2009

    Come on young DL

    I was out until 2am collecting daughter from the airport ( yes it was Ryanair so a 200 mile round trip)

    I didnt wake up until nearly half eight which is well past my normal swimming time.

    I spent the morning footering about with work and social stuff but forced myself to go for a swim just now.

    Just back and really feel the benefits.

    So, come on you can do it.

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    Posted by Campbell-in-Clogs (U8123405) on Monday, 12th October 2009

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    according to Mr Clogs, as if it's my very last ever breath on the planet! smiley - winkeye I apparantly take in hUge gasping lungfuls of air every time I turn my head (to the right, every 4th stroke, can't do left side breathing at all). I'm not what you'd call a natural relaxed swimmer. Not panicky really, but just never totally 100% comfortable with having my face in the water. I notice the post-crawl burping because I hardly ever burp otherwise. Am actually quite jealous of people who can do so 'on command' as it seems a handy thing to be able to do.

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    Posted by Dunlurkin NL (U2675855) on Monday, 12th October 2009

    Nah, not today. Swimming pool closes in half an hour.

    Or rather, it closes to Joe Public and switches to its main money-making busines of swimming lessons.


    Dunlurkin

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    Posted by Bearhug (U2258283) on Monday, 12th October 2009

    as if it's my very last ever breath on the planet! Ìý
    But even so... I'd say I breathe in pretty heavily if I'm swimming hard, especially at the moment, as I'm not that fit. I will have to think about this when I'm next in the pool (for my own satisfaction and understanding, rather than yours!)

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    Posted by MV Whitby May Rose (U6862284) on Monday, 12th October 2009

    Oh well DL I did try.

    Better luck next time.

    Im going again tonight. I will do a few lengths for you.

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    Posted by Claribel (U2264645) on Monday, 12th October 2009

    according to Mr Clogs, as if it's my very last ever breath on the planet! smiley - winkeye I apparantly take in hUge gasping lungfuls of air every time I turn my head (to the right, every 4th stroke, can't do left side breathing at all). I'm not what you'd call a natural relaxed swimmer. Not panicky really, but just never totally 100% comfortable with having my face in the water. I notice the post-crawl burping because I hardly ever burp otherwise. Am actually quite jealous of people who can do so 'on command' as it seems a handy thing to be able to do. Ìý

    C-in-C, I'm not knowledgeable enough to come up with any definitive reason why this might be but two possible solutions to your 'gasping great lungfuls of air':

    1. Are you breathing out fully whilst your face is in the water? I have a tendency to forget to do this sometimes, which means I have to breathe out and then breathe in in a very short space of time - not ideal, and probably comes out gaspy.

    2. Perhaps you need to breathe more frequently? Every fourth stroke is quite a long time to go without breathing unless you are sprinting. I breathe on both sides, so every three strokes (I really find this helps to balance me out so I don't 'tilt') but if you can't manage this, perhaps try breathing every 2 strokes, or ever 2 then every 4 and so on?

    Good luck with it!

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    Posted by Claribel (U2264645) on Monday, 12th October 2009

    I too swam this morning, haivng been woken early by on-call, and couldn't get back to sleep, despite having told them it could wait till I was in the office. I did 1000m, but needed to stop to go to work. My inner thighs feel like I've done about 2 miles of breaststroke rather than the 250m that I did do (mostly did frontcrawl today.) Ìý

    Meant to reply to this earlier but forgot. I do mainly front crawl these days, Bearhug, as I have a weird knee which is exacerbated by breaststroke. It's a real pain as breaststroke used to be my favourite stroke, and I was really quite good at it (not nearly so good at everything else!) but more than a few lengths leads to knee pain, so I force myself to avoid it. It does mean that the occasional length of breaststroke I get to do is a proper bonus, though.

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    Posted by Dunlurkin NL (U2675855) on Monday, 12th October 2009

    Claribel.

    How wonderful to meet someone else who breathes every three strokes! It just makes so much sense to me and I have done it for ages. You can see what's happening on either side of you. I don't understand why everyone doesn't do it. I see swimmers in races (on TV) who have obviously been suprised by someone coming up on their 'blind' side.

    I do tend to swim breaststroke these days, but that's because I'm lazy, and it's also easier in a public pool.


    Dunlurkin

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    Posted by Campbell-in-Clogs (U8123405) on Monday, 12th October 2009

    I would love to be able to breath every 3 strokes, it's the ideal interval, but I just can't do it. I've tried. I have the co-ordination of a 7-legged spider.

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    Posted by Lady Trudie Tilney Glorfindel Maldini (U2222312) on Monday, 12th October 2009

    I've never worked out how to do front crawl breathing. I'm fine with breast stroke, putting my head under and breathing out underwater, but I can't for the life of me breathe with my head on one side without inhaling a lungful of water. Tends to put me off somewhat.

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    Posted by Dunlurkin NL (U2675855) on Monday, 12th October 2009

    erms,

    I remember being told to imagine that I had a knitting needle going through my head, neck and down my back. This meant that I could only rotate my body along that axis, and not lift my head. I suppose it's then a matter of rotating your body far enough round as you pull back with the arm on the breathing side, thus ensuring that your mouth is above water when you breathe in.

    Perhaps Bearhug the swimming teacher will have a better way of explaining it.

    Dunlurkin

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    Posted by MV Whitby May Rose (U6862284) on Monday, 12th October 2009

    I can only do breaststroke. I just plough up and down for whatever time I have decided to go for. I stop sometimes and tread water and I swim right underneath some of the time ( not sure how come to think of it but I can do a good bit of the pool without breathing).

    I just love the feeling of being immersed in water.

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    Posted by Claribel (U2264645) on Monday, 12th October 2009

    I remember being told to imagine that I had a knitting needle going through my head, neck and down my back. This meant that I could only rotate my body along that axis, and not lift my head. I suppose it's then a matter of rotating your body far enough round as you pull back with the arm on the breathing side, thus ensuring that your mouth is above water when you breathe in. Ìý

    I think the other thing is that when you pull your arm back, it creates a kind of dip in the water, which means that you don't have to rotate so far round to get your mouth out of the water. If that makes sense.

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    Posted by Bearhug (U2258283) on Monday, 12th October 2009

    I also breathe every 3rd stroke on front crawl. I'd like to aim for 5, but I'm just not fit enough at the moment. I do find it is better for my balance to breathe both sides.

    Breathing with your head up on front crawl is much harder than breathing to the side. When I was lifesaving, we'd swim frontcrawl with our heads up, so you've got some speed, and can look around, but it really is hard work compared with head down and breathing to the side.

    If I were teaching someone to breathe to the side, I'd start with a float. One hand at the top of the float, the other at the bottom, so that arm will be bent. Swim along, legs only and head down, turning head to the side with the bent arm when you want to breathe. At the end of the width/length, turn round and swap your arms over, so that you get used to turning to both sides.

    There are various exercises you can do without the float to practise your arm position and breathing - it's difficult to entirely disconnet the two, because if you try breathing to the side when your arm's in the wrong place, you're going to get a mouthful of upper arm or something. smiley - smiley Will think about this more later.



    And yes, if you have joint or back problems, you should avoid breaststroke. All that twisting hips and knees to the side isn't very good for you, really.

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    Posted by Claribel (U2264645) on Wednesday, 14th October 2009

    Swam 1500m this morning; Wednesdays at our pool are always too busy, though, as there are swimming lessons in one of the lanes, so only 3 lanes available for the rest of us. Still glad I went!

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    Posted by Dunlurkin NL (U2675855) on Thursday, 15th October 2009

    I managed to find a decent excuse for not going on Wednesday. If I told you it involved royalty would you believe me? Probably not, but it did.

    However this morning I decided I couldn't put it off any longer. I had finished the book I was reading so ... off I pedalled, before any breakfast, arriving at the pool at 08.30. I had resisted the temptation to turn the computer on as I knew I would get stuck there - pity though, because I might have checked opening times. The pool opens at 09.00 on a Thursday. So I pedalled back home and managed to occupy myself for 20 mins before going back to the pool.

    I had decided I would do half an hour or 40 lengths (1000m), whichever came first. After 2 lengths I thought I had made a big mistake as I couldn't believe I could do another 8, let alone 38. In the end I did the 40 lengths in 33 minutes. Actually I probably did more than 1000m as I don't think I swam more than half a dozen straight lengths, as I kept having to weave between other swimmers in the two lanes available. One bloke in particular seemed to think he had some divine right to swim up and down without making any concessions to others. Grrr.

    On my way home I met an elderly couple with whom I used to swim regularly but who have unfortunately had to stop (hopefully temporarily) for health reasons. It was lovely to catch up with them.

    I am now outside a delicious breakfast of scrambled eggs and toast and feeling very pleased with myself.

    Just as long as no-one asks me to do anything demanding for the rest of the morning (day?).

    Dunlurkin

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    Posted by Claribel (U2264645) on Thursday, 15th October 2009

    Very impressed, Dunlurkin, particularly that you managed to go back to the pool after the mix-up over opening hours.

    Now, about that royalty...

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    Posted by Campbell-in-Clogs (U8123405) on Thursday, 15th October 2009

    Well done that Dunlurkin. (But we need to know the royalty thingy now!)

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    Posted by LostInML (U13646691) on Thursday, 15th October 2009

    I swim 3 times a week, but am feeling positively unfit having read other people's comments in this thread! I only do breaststroke and I don't swim twice a day...

    I swim because it's the only form of exercise I remotely enjoy, and even that's too strong a word. I do feel at home in water, though.

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    Posted by Dunlurkin NL (U2675855) on Thursday, 15th October 2009

    I was supposed to be going to work on Wednesday afternoon, so thought I'd have time for a swim that morning, but an agency I work for persuaded me I could fit in another interpreting job on the way. It had come to them at the last minute.

    It was when the speech I was sent in preparation began "Your Highness, Ladies and Gentlemen" that I decided that the outfit I had planned on wearing would not be appropriate. Thus a fair part of Wednesday morning was devoted to pulling something more suitable out of the wardrobe, reading the speech and making sure I left in plenty of time.

    I played only a very minor role in the whole affair, and had to leave before the end of the proceedings (probably unforgiveable) but it was an interesting experience.


    Dunlurkin

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    Posted by Campbell-in-Clogs (U8123405) on Thursday, 15th October 2009

    Ooh, translating for Trix?

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    Posted by Dunlurkin NL (U2675855) on Thursday, 15th October 2009

    Nah, she's a Majesty not a Highness. Her sis - Margriet. And I was not translating for her, she was there.

    I wasn't allowed to translate what she was saying as me whispering at the same time is apparently rude. Personally, I'd have thought leaving two important guest speakers staring into space and not understanding a word for 15 minutes was rude too.

    Dunlurkin

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    Posted by Claribel (U2264645) on Monday, 19th October 2009

    Giving this a bit of a bump - I went along this morning. Water a tad too warm, but feeling quite energised now. For those who are interested, I did 1250m with 800m freestyle swim, then 200m leg drills (just front crawl kick in fact), 200m arm drills and 50m v-e-r-y slow breaststroke to cool down.

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