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Healthy and delicious eating aka MFC

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    Posted by Auntie Prue (U1481323) on Monday, 26th October 2009

    Only two months to go to you know what!
    Christmas will present a challenge to most of us, so now is the time to work out our strategies for enjoying ourselves without doing our weight too much damage. All tips and suggestions welcome.

    Please join us if you are trying to eat more healthily – whether or not it is for losing weight – although losing a bit of weight is what most of us are trying to do in addition to eating healthily.

    This is a club for anyone who wants to lose weight or improve eating habits. We have few rules, anything and everything is discussed here, but we do ask that you don't mention any actual starting or target weights - your starting point could be someone else's target.

    Feel free to share any successes though, whether that is weight or waist! We love to hear good news, but this place can really come into its own when motivation is hard to find, so no need to be shy about those weeks when the scales tell us we’ve gained instead of lost.


    Katy’s recipe thread can be found here, and your ideas would be very welcome.




    For help, advice and encouragement with exercise; we have another sister thread – GEm’s Gym




    Finally you can sign up to open up the Healthy Eating Club on the rota thread. We are a weekly club, so simply take it in turns to post this first post. You don’t have to be an old stager to do this – just choose a convenient week and add your name.

    We open a new thread on Tuesdays – but we often jump the gun and start it off on Monday evening, just in case the maid or valet is late in bringing us our breakfast in bed, and running the bath on Tuesday mornings (well you can dream!).



    It seems to me that we have a very jolly and positive group of people here – so please join us and make losing that fat a whole lot of fun.


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    Posted by Westsussexbird or Birdy aka Westie (U6316532) on Monday, 26th October 2009

    Thanks for getting us off to a new week Prue.

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    Posted by Fire-Pig - proud to wave the protest banner (U12231213) on Monday, 26th October 2009

    Thanks Prue, just bookmarking now, I like the name and you did better than someone who had us nameless all week!

    F-P

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    Posted by Westsussexbird or Birdy aka Westie (U6316532) on Monday, 26th October 2009

    .... but Fire-Pig we got some new posters popping in
    that week!

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    Posted by anagramladysin (U13783319) on Monday, 26th October 2009

    Hello everyone
    Thought I would post on the new thread rather than get lost on the old one.
    I was interested in the discussion about the name --- I hadn't really realised what MFC stood for either, but lurked a bit and found out how nice and supportive you all are, so that when I did find out, I could bear it.
    I have a suggestion. What about "The Right Weight Thread" --- with the Healthy Eating in there too if you like. It seems to me to make it clear what it's about and for, but is a positive spin, like the thread is positive.
    [ an aside .... an old friend of mine went for a medical checkup. Bald and depressed and ill with miserable small things, he was tremendously cheered when the pretty nurse told him "you're at your most desirable weight". He preened for ages ....]

    One more point, for the person who was talking about body shape and saying she had "thunder thighs" even though slim now. Well, I have been walking about a mile a day, several days of the week, for a couple of years in my MBTs (google and they'll come up I am sure) and my legs have changed shape, my thighs especially, for the better. I have lots of weight to lose, and you won't see me in a bikini .... or even shorts .... but my legs are definitely more streamlined and it shows in trousers. All, I know, down to the MBTs. They make your muscles work / really / hard in all the right places.

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    Posted by HamsterMama aka nifty-fifty (U14121030) on Monday, 26th October 2009

    Mon, 26 Oct 2009 20:20 GMT, in reply to westie (westsussexbird) in message 2

    Now that I've finally caught up with the discussions re to MFC or not to MFC, I was reminded of something I read about a long time ago:

    We can all call to mind the American President Harry S. Trueman, but who knows what the 'S' stands for? Well, although I am a little sketchy on the actual details, the gist of the story holds good. Apparently, the grandfather on one side of the family was called (something like) Stephen and expected the new baby to be called after him. However, the grandfather on the other side of the family also expected his first grandson to be named after him. He was called (something like) Spencer. Which name did the proud but anxious parents choose? His middle name is simply 'S', so those who wanted 'Stephen' could think it was that, while those who wanted 'Spencer' could also be pleased.
    My point is, if we stick to the initials MFC we can think what we want to think, be it Fit, Fat, Funny, Flying, Ferocious, Fruit-bat (now, nifty, you're getting a bit silly!) or anyFing that catches the imagination.

    There! I've missed tea now, reading all those posts! Hmphh!

    Actually, speaking just for myself, I shall think of it as the Mustardland Fun Club and Healthy Eating Thread. What's your pet name gonna be?




    Nifty-fiftyx

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    Posted by Katy Tulip (U2239809) on Tuesday, 27th October 2009

    Tue, 27 Oct 2009 06:10 GMT, in reply to Auntie Prue in message 1

    Hi Auntie Prue, and thanks for opening up!

    Back later all,

    Koko,

    Katy

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    Posted by puzzler76 (U3733897) on Tuesday, 27th October 2009

    Morning all, reporting in with a significant gain which just bumps me over the top of my maintain zone by 0.75lb. However, I refuse to feel bad about it because I know exactly where it came from and I had a wonderful time catching up with my old pal in Edinburgh (she's been in the Falklands for 2 years). My only regret is that we couldn't stay longer. We went to the castle though, which Puzzlerette loved, and I did look at lots of buildings and wonder if there were some MLers in any of them.

    KOKO everyone, I'm back on the straight-and-hopefully-getting-narrower now!

    Puzzler

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    Posted by JustJezebel (U7474974) on Tuesday, 27th October 2009

    Thanks for opening up, Auntie P and waves to everyone. Just bookmarking for later, when I'll catch up with all the news.

    KOKO

    JJ

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    Posted by Miftrefs Laura in Lothian bufily ftitching (U2587870) on Tuesday, 27th October 2009

    Tue, 27 Oct 2009 08:56 GMT, in reply to puzzler76 in message 8

    Morning all! I like the name too - covers all bases, imo! smiley - smiley

    reporting in with a significant gain which just bumps me over the top of my maintain zone by 0.75lb. However, I refuse to feel bad about it because I know exactly where it came from and I had a wonderful time catching up with my old pal in Edinburgh (she's been in the Falklands for 2 years). My only regret is that we couldn't stay longer. We went to the castle though, which Puzzlerette loved, and I did look at lots of buildings and wonder if there were some MLers in any of them.Ìý

    I was in the Cairngorms, so wasn't in any Edinburgh building at the weekend - glad you enjoyed yourself!

    I'm like Puzzler a bit - I didn't bother to weigh myself as I know it's a Gain. The tape measure says an inch on all over, pretty much... but as Puzzler said about her small gain, I know where it's come from (five weeks of eating much more than I was, treats most evenings and little exercise).

    So... I know what comes next... smiley - smiley

    Three healthy meals a day, balanced varied freshly-prepared food, in moderate quantities. Nothing 'banned', but all things in moderation (why has everyone who knows me just fallen over laughing?!). Three brisk short walks a day to keep the exercise up. Reducing the caffeine/energy drinks this week with the aim of getting the junky carp out of my diet during next week!

    I'll start this paragraph by saying I'm NOT pregnant (thankfully for me!) (t'would be an immaculate conception which would confuse the Church summat chronic in an atheist, I'm sure...)..

    But you know when someone is pregnant there's the old saying that you are "eating for two"? It used to just mean eating more, but in recent years I've heard a few women talk of it as meaning "when I eat, I have to think of my baby and eat well, not necessarily more".
    So I'm taking this approach to the food and exercise and water-intake and getting-rid-of-energy-drinks - it's not just for me, it's for the PhD as well! My little PhD has a due-date of April, so I need to make sure I keep myself healthy and fit - I want plenty of energy to cope with the extra burden and weight of the growing thesis, and also want to avoid any nasty colds or lurgies that could cause the thesis to be weaker!
    I think I'll pause the analogy there before anyone casts on to knit a little bonnet for the thesis smiley - winkeye

    KOKO all... I may be feeling a bit "back to Square One" but I'm not really: I'm fitter than in July, I'm nowhere near as big as in July, and I'm armed with the confidence that I know what works and that it really does work - thanks, all in these threads!

    laura

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    Posted by Fire-Pig - proud to wave the protest banner (U12231213) on Tuesday, 27th October 2009

    Oh Laura you have made me laugh about your baby thesis! I don't think we want to explore the gestation period of a thesis or I hate to think what kind of super creature my (male) Elder Piglet would have been!

    Nifty, I think my F in the middle might well be Friendship. MFC for friendship - however I would hate it to become a clique, and I am NOT saying that there isn't friendship amongst other threads but for me I have found friendship and understanding here in MFC. May more friends join us this week!

    KOKO one and all!

    F-P

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  • Message 12

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    Posted by Sister Primrose of the Red Tinsel Flag (U5405579) on Tuesday, 27th October 2009

    More weight on, another 14 ounces. Like Puzzler and Laura I know exactly why - I had some lovely Selkirk Bannock last week, trifle and a roast dinner on Sunday and went out for a meal with the kids last night.

    I have decided to go back to weighing in on my scales at home, for the simple reason that they talk to me in pounds and ounces not kilos and grammes and I 'know' the significance iof the former better than the latter.

    I am planning to make a list of the ways in which over eating does not address my primary worry - looming redundancy- and see if that helps me not do it.

    PP

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    Posted by Westsussexbird or Birdy aka Westie (U6316532) on Tuesday, 27th October 2009

    Nifty I love your Harry S Truman anecdote ... how True :0)) We named our daughter after my MIL and when my mother said what you can imagine my mother said I replied, "Well, I'm named after you (my ghastly middle name is Myrtle!!!!!) and OH's mother has never had a baby named after her .... so stick that in your pipe and smoke it .... " and as you say, we have all our own idea of what the F stands for. :0)) For me it's a club which helps me stay fit ... except for my dodgy knee and dodgy eye and and and!!!!!!!!!! I love the fun club and the friendship club. Both true.

    Laura and her baby thesis :0)) A good laugh. Thanks Laura.

    Puzzler and her bit to shift. That is the great thing .. to shift it immediately. That's where I went wrong before. In 18 months I had put back on about 12lbs.

    Primrose, I was completely thrown when I bought new scales that had me a good few pounds heavier than my old ones. It was one of the reasons I lost the plot a bit ... on the old ones I was wobbly around the half a stone mark and on the new ones I was jolly nearly up to the next stone zone. I then put on quite a lot, and am only just now back to the stone zone on my new ones and under the stone zone on my old ones. (Are you all paying attention there!!). Stick with the scales you know and love is my advice!

    For some reason twice now the new scales have knocked half a stone off .... wow!!!!

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    Posted by orange pekoe (U9563764) on Tuesday, 27th October 2009

    Hi ana, I am the proud owner of the thunder thighs! You have given me hope, because walking is what I do. It has helped improve my muscle tone all over, definitely improved my middle, and, you're right, I've seen some changes in the thighs too. It's just going to take a lot longer there.

    This is partly what I was getting at in my musings on last week's thread. I am approaching a much healthier weight, but that isn't going to mean I magically get legs up to my armpits and all the rest of it. I am who I am.

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    Posted by Westsussexbird or Birdy aka Westie (U6316532) on Tuesday, 27th October 2009

    Katy Tulip wrote the following on the end of last week's thread and I thought it might be helpful to bring it into this week's thread.


    "I want to endorse what Anne-Marie said here re the Cookbook:

    IIRC Katy's recent suggestion was that the cookbook thread could be used for posting food diaries. It seems logical to put the two together and also then keeps the more general MFC thread for more focussed support - cheering on/cheering up etc.Ìý


    I only thought of it because I'd noticed that the food diaries often sparked off some recipe ideas and tips, and I can well appreciate why peeps don't then trawl around to post them in the Cookbook (which often ends up on page 2 of the mayo by Tuesday afternoon/evening), it moves much faster in here nowadays), as it breaks the flow of the dicussion in teh main thread at that time. Also there might be peeps who's quite like to post a diary more often, but are wary of doing so because it's interrupt the main thread too often.

    That's all, really.

    Katy"

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    Posted by HamsterMama aka nifty-fifty (U14121030) on Tuesday, 27th October 2009

    Tue, 27 Oct 2009 12:46 GMT, in reply to westie (westsussexbird) in message 13

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    Westie, here's another quote from Garfield:

    "It's not whether you win or lose - it's how you weigh the gain!"


    I seem to remember this was accompanied by a picture of Garfield standing on one leg on a scales - while holding a bunch of helium-filled balloons.






    Westie, I can't believe you still weigh youself on *two* scales that are yours. Your own plus either WW or SW is fine (or even the nurse's scales if you're really unlucky!), but _two_ _scales_ _of_ _your_ _own_ is a bit OTT IMO!

    ;0D

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    Posted by PinaGrigio (U11141735) on Tuesday, 27th October 2009

    'ello all

    well the weight loss on Sun night was definitely not an illusion as I remain 1.5 lbs down on last week when weighing in this morning. hurrah!

    I like the Harry S story and also the acronym Must Find Chocolate although in my case it would be crisps, obviously.

    Laura - when at uni I had to write an essay entitled 'is a pen a metaphorical pen*s?'* because of the number of male writers regarding their written output as their child, so I reckon you're right in there with the baby motif!

    I hate it when needing to buy new scales as it takes a couple of weeks to get used to the new ones. That's why the clothes fitting measurement is also so useful in being able to double-check it, as it were.


    *can anyone tell this was an Arts degree, eh?

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    Posted by Westsussexbird or Birdy aka Westie (U6316532) on Tuesday, 27th October 2009

    nifty OK let me explain :0)))

    We are still using the old scales as they tell me I weigh less than the new ones do ..... but there are of course other reasons M'Lud ...

    My husband always buys things cheap on the internet if at all possible and shortly before the old scales appeared to have heaved their last load he had ordered about 20 new batteries that fit only those scales ... nothing else in our lives needs those batteries now that our two girls are grown up and don't play with the lego train set any more (sob) .... SO when we discovered that the dead scales were in fact simply having a rest as, as soon as I had bought the new ones they came to life again, we have carried on using the old ones.

    Also they have a bright light which on a dark morning you can see more clearly than the Weight Watchers scales.

    I only weigh myself once a month now, so goodness knows how long these batteries will last! I offer them to friends and neighbours but noone wants them.

    I reckon Weight Watchers deliberately sell scales that weigh heavy as it keeps their customers thinking they weigh more than they really do (JOKE!!!).



    Pina, well done :0)

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    Posted by Isabel Archer (U13716168) on Tuesday, 27th October 2009

    Westie, that's a great story. It reminds me of the time I did internet shopping and ordered 5 bags of bread flour instead of 5 loaves and we went out and bought a breadmaker so that we could use it.

    Still doing relatively well. Although I'm not sure if it's enough to make me lose weight, I think I have stopped the rot for now and am eating more consciously and thoughtfully.

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    Posted by Miftrefs Laura in Lothian bufily ftitching (U2587870) on Tuesday, 27th October 2009

    Tue, 27 Oct 2009 14:11 GMT, in reply to westie (westsussexbird) in message 18

    Golly, new scales??

    We have two sets of scales. The elaborately-cast iron very upright late Victorian ones found in the house when we moved in, and the ordinary flat variety bought by my late Gran sometime around my parents' marriage in the early 1960s... I'm using the latter just ow as the hand fell off the dial on the antique ones. They're like those retro kitchen scales, with a dial facing forwards and a flat surface on top of the box that you stand on. And the hand having fallen off makes them more useful for keeping my washing-powder and starch-powder on in the scullery so the boxes don't get wet if the dryer oozes water, really.


    I kow food diaries are normally tomorrow but I've just had the loveliest lunch-feast and really good healthy one at that!
    - left-over soup, enough to fill a small crea china cup
    - a few baby tomatoes rescued before the cold killed off our plants outside
    - one crispbread with a thin slice of cheese
    - one Ecclefechan tart, hot
    - 3 figs and 5 prunes, but not the plump soft huge ones, but the ones like I remember, hard and tiny and chewy with the prunes still with the stone in so they take ages to eat and are really lovely

    I put it all onto one big plate but put each of those (except the crispbread) into one of my collection of very small dishes - the sort of thing you put olives in, just 3" across, if that. I have lovely stoneware and earthenware and china ones, and it looked like a feast for a Dolls' Lunch Party!

    Really satisfying, and very varied (which I like) but in far smaller quantities than I would have done in the past!

    They do say to use a smaller plate..! smiley - winkeye

    laura

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    Posted by Westsussexbird or Birdy aka Westie (U6316532) on Tuesday, 27th October 2009

    Isobel they do say that if you take care of the pennies then the pounds will take care of themselves! :0)

    In terms of losing weight it's looking after the extra spoonfulls and the pounds will look after themselves. Don't give up Isolbel .. just tweak what you are doing and you'll feel the benefit I'm sure.

    Muesli
    small slice of home made pizza with bacon in it.
    Salad ... with sunflower seeds and pumpkin seeds and sesame seeds. Courgette sliced on mandolin. Mary Berry dressing YUM
    A few frozen cherries nibbles
    A helping of healthy crumble
    (Rest of cherries/summer fruits/our frozen blackberries cooked in microwave then transferred to dish and healthy porridge /ground up nuts based crumble on top.)
    Yoghurt.

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    Posted by Isabel Archer (U13716168) on Tuesday, 27th October 2009

    Oh no, not giving up westie.

    In fact, I see it as really positive in that, in the past, I have been fixated on losing weight which has made me obsess over food with periods of abstinence followed by binges. The result is that I have felt that eating was something I could not control - that it owned me rather than the other way round. What I am focusing on at the moment, and finding this thread very helpful as a support, is being conscious that I decide what to eat and when. That feeling is quite new to me in the food area (despite being quite disciplined in other areas of my life) and I am enjoying it even if it is also a challenge.

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    Posted by Miftrefs Laura in Lothian bufily ftitching (U2587870) on Tuesday, 27th October 2009

    Tue, 27 Oct 2009 14:58 GMT, in reply to Isabel_Archer in message 22

    What I am focusing on at the moment, and finding this thread very helpful as a support, is being conscious that I decide what to eat and when.Ìý

    Oh yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.

    [nods head]

    [realises resemblance to Churchill dog in annoying tv advert and shrieks disconsolately]

    Isabel, I am there too - not with the abstinence/ bingeing but in the not-thinking. I was so active and strong into my mid-20s that I never had to think about food. I loved veg and salads and drinking water so it didn't matter if I also ate tons of carp or ate double-portions of everything. Then when I crashed a motorbike and couldn't really use my legs for a couple of years it never occurred to me to change my food intake - really it didn't. Suddenly this lithe young woman (often compared to Sarah Connor's body shape in Terminator 2 - a bit like Lara Croft, lithe, muscular, very veryleggy...) suddenly I was the Blob From Outer Space. So I dyed my hair rainbow colours and dressed outrageously and nobody seemed to notice my enormous size...

    It's been better the last 5-10 years but even so it really was only in July, with these threads' help, that I really sat down and applied what I knew in theory to the practice. I knew all the nutritional stuff, the metabolising, the burning of different fuels, the way cells work, the needs of the average human, etc., etc... but I'd never thought of applying any of the stuff about Optimal Health And Nutrition to my own daily life.

    Doesn't half make a differece!

    smiley - winkeye

    laura

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    Posted by myhuckleberryfriend (U9588385) on Tuesday, 27th October 2009

    Three fat cats here, two furrys with four legs and me.

    I've just returned from an extended meditation retreat and it's taking me some time to touch ground again! The food was not too bad but I have gained a couple of pounds, there was a lot of meditation and not much exercise. So I'll increase my walks round the park and return to pilates so I'm sure I'll lose it again.

    As far as the title is concerned, it does help if it has the magic letters MFC and a date for easy identification but I'm easy about the rest.

    I ate (or does one drink?) soup for lunch but I'm feeling peckish at the mo so will try not to comfort eat when back in the kitchen.

    Lasagne for supper tonight.

    Thanks for all your bright stories - what a cheerful read theymake!

    huckie.

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  • Message 25

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    Posted by Westsussexbird or Birdy aka Westie (U6316532) on Tuesday, 27th October 2009

    Welcome back huckie. We'll talk quietly so as not to upset your equilibrium :0)

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  • Message 26

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    Posted by Mermaid the Swishy-Fishy-Tailed Wise One (U10731448) on Tuesday, 27th October 2009

    Tue, 27 Oct 2009 16:15 GMT, in reply to anagramladysin in message 5



    Gosh - you must be tiny.

    Mustardland Fairy Club, we're all so dainty.



    Struggling today - I seem to be hungry whatever I eat or drink.

    So far - bfast - muesli, two fig rolls, lunch poached egg on toast, piece of cheese,( get a real craving for cheese) apple, satsuma and I've grazed on a few grapes and dried apricots.
    And a treat, a choc cookie.
    Not so bad, I suppose.

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    Posted by Auntie Prue (U1481323) on Tuesday, 27th October 2009

    What I don't understand is why Mr and Mrs Westie don't play with the Lego trainset themselves!


    I always thought the whole idea of children was that you could play with their toys, and what better time than when they have gone : )

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    Posted by Mermaid the Swishy-Fishy-Tailed Wise One (U10731448) on Tuesday, 27th October 2009

    Tue, 27 Oct 2009 16:23 GMT, in reply to Auntie Prue in message 27

    Forgot to say - as I'm making so much soup now, I'm getting a food processor so I can mush it up better. And chop the veg finer first as well. Pick it up tomorrow from arg*s.

    See, I am serious about healthy eating.

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    Posted by HamsterMama aka nifty-fifty (U14121030) on Tuesday, 27th October 2009

    Tue, 27 Oct 2009 16:43 GMT, in reply to Auntie Prue in message 27

    Ìý

    My sentiments exactly. When do we come round to help set up?

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    Posted by HamsterMama aka nifty-fifty (U14121030) on Tuesday, 27th October 2009

    Tue, 27 Oct 2009 16:46 GMT, in reply to PeddlingWindfarmMermaid, The Fishy-Tailed Wise One in message 26

    Ìý


    Snork!!

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  • Message 31

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    Posted by Miftrefs Laura in Lothian bufily ftitching (U2587870) on Tuesday, 27th October 2009

    Tue, 27 Oct 2009 16:58 GMT, in reply to PeddlingWindfarmMermaid, The Fishy-Tailed Wise One in message 26

    Struggling today - I seem to be hungry whatever I eat or drink.

    So far - bfast - muesli, two fig rolls, lunch poached egg on toast, piece of cheese,( get a real craving for cheese) apple, satsuma and I've grazed on a few grapes and dried apricots.
    And a treat, a choc cookie.Ìý


    Not much protein in there, Mermurs.

    Although fruit is healthy it is also sugar-rich (albeit also packed with vits and fibre, etc., etc.).

    I wonder if you've started with a sugar-peak, felt a trough slumping in, and grazed on fruit, which then gives you a bit of a peak again, causing a subsequent trough...

    Try adding protein tomorrow? iirc, lean meat or fish, nuts, cheese, eggs... It isn't common in the UK (except as hot bacon) but many countries include meat for breakfast - try a small piece of lean ham, maybe with a small piece of cheese - it can't be more calories than the two fig rolls!

    The reason I'm banging on bout protein is that it is an appetite-suppressant as part of a balanced diet. You eat a bit of protein as part of a meal and it's far more effective at making you feel full up and staying full up than the same amount of calories/ fat/ carbs in a meal without protein.

    Poached egg for elevenses, for that matter?! Why not - try a few variations til you find what works for you, because if I feel hungry I always end up eating much much more than if I'd eaten more in the first place!

    Lamb tonight, with a pan-gravy of redcurrant jelly and What's-dis-here Sauce with water; a huge green leaf salad of lettuce and watercress, with Mum's French Dressing and a dash of Tamari soy sauce.
    If I am still peckish afterwards, I have dried fruit (including those lovely chewy prunes and figs!), but also could have one of my 1/3-sized Sticky Toffee Puddings, or a cup-sundae ice-cream with toffee sauce and grated dark chocolate, or some stewed blackberry-and-apple or a baked apple... my sorrowing I'm On A Diet friends (the ones so sad-faced and deprived and miserably living on sawdust and floor-sweepings, I mean tasty high-fibre "meal bars"...) anyway, they can't believe anyone can lose weight and still keep STP in the house. I do feel really pleased I'm doing it this way, not their way. I can have STP if I want - it will be a much smaller piece than usual, but still perfectly "permitted" as long as I feel that is what I want...
    ...which almost guarantees I may well not bother with it at all!

    !0k steps again today, after 12k yesterday. Three big energy-drinks both days but I'm already feeling I can cut down to two for tomorrow.

    laura

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  • Message 32

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    Posted by Westsussexbird or Birdy aka Westie (U6316532) on Tuesday, 27th October 2009

    Mermaid you are doing so well. If I can't stop being hungry I do myself a boiled egg and toast and that usually sorts me out ... something a bit more substantial than you might otherwise. Something extra. I'm really proud of you which is strange considering I've never met you or anyfing .... just really "chuffed" for you ... and talking of trains ...

    We advertised in the local paper for a second hand ping pong table and secondhand Lego and ended up with 2 trunks full of Lego. They are in the roof! We used the pingpong table to set up the world we accumulated ... we had roads, train tracks, OH and the girls and all their friends built houses and had trees, level crossings, cranes, the lot. It was such fun. It used to be up in the spare room over the double bed, but then came downstairs into what is now a room used for teaching music in by one of the little girls that used to play with the Lego. It used to be called the play room and is now called the play room ... only it's music that gets played in there now. When the train hit the buffers if it was going tooo fast (ie it had a new battery in it) it would demolish the buffers and it would then land on the floor and become just a pile of tiny lego bricks!

    Memories ay!

    Fairy club indeed :0))

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    Posted by PinaGrigio (U11141735) on Tuesday, 27th October 2009

    Laura - do tell....what is a What's-dis-here Sauce?

    being on a diet does not equate to misery for me as to me 'diet' just = what one eats. You can have a healthy or an unhealthy diet. A Diet, on the other hand, is some daft eating plan which will cause short term weight loss, untold misery & suffering in the achieving of, and isn't nutritionally balanced. That's why I prefer healthy eating & the 80:20 principle as a way of life instead.

    Rant over.

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  • Message 34

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    Posted by Westsussexbird or Birdy aka Westie (U6316532) on Tuesday, 27th October 2009

    Laura ... minds thinking alike ... protein for Mermaid :0))

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  • Message 35

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    Posted by Fire-Pig - proud to wave the protest banner (U12231213) on Tuesday, 27th October 2009

    Oh PG I agree with you so much. I am NOT on a Diet, I am eating healthily and by doing so losing weight, gaining energy and, perhaps most importantly, self esteem while doing it.

    This being off work is not working as well as I would like - yes I am relaxing but I am also waiting for the phone to ring because the promised filing cabinets for my carding area have not come yet - they have promised to phone before delivering but I daren't go out as I forgot to give them my mobile number.

    Off to cook some kedgeree and blackberry and apple.

    F-P

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  • Message 36

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    Posted by Miftrefs Laura in Lothian bufily ftitching (U2587870) on Tuesday, 27th October 2009

    Tue, 27 Oct 2009 17:16 GMT, in reply to PinaGrigio in message 33

    Pina, that wasn't a rant! You're going to have to get some ranting practice in, I reckon - that was a perfectly rational well-reasoned statement of fact. Sorry! I know you wated to have ranted, but, well, you made perfect sense, I'm afraid, and a rant is usually incoherent and based on codswallop so, er, nul points! smiley - smiley

    "What's-dis-here Sauce is the old nickname for Worcestershire Sauce - there's a very very ancient not-terribly-funny joke about a cook asking "What's dis here sauce?" and being answered with "worcestershire sauce" and getting all confused with the answer sounding like the questions, etc., etc... it was funny in about 1920, I'm sure! smiley - smiley
    (I think the idea was to train people to say it in 3 syllables and not were-sess-ter-shire")

    laura

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  • Message 37

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    Posted by Mermaid the Swishy-Fishy-Tailed Wise One (U10731448) on Tuesday, 27th October 2009

    Tue, 27 Oct 2009 17:18 GMT, in reply to Laura in Lothian () in message 31

    Thanks for comments about protein, peaks and troughs. (pigs come to mind)I will digest them in due course.

    I didn't make myself clear - I haven't finished eating for today. The poached egg, cheese and apple was lunch.

    Main meal yet to come - cold chicken and whatever I decide to do with it. Sweet potato and swede (which Merman doesn't like) He can have tomato (yuk) and carrot. Maybe a spud.

    Love your description of your dieting friends. If it's not an awful pun, some people really do make a meal of dieting.

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  • Message 38

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    Posted by Westsussexbird or Birdy aka Westie (U6316532) on Tuesday, 27th October 2009

    That's how American's say it ... wor sess tire shire
    sauce.

    Does it last for ever and ever do you think ... I have some that I think I inherited and only use it for making a liver and bacon/tomato casserole ... ie, not often!

    I love bacon and liver fried with onion best.

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  • Message 39

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    Posted by Westsussexbird or Birdy aka Westie (U6316532) on Tuesday, 27th October 2009

    Mermaid, I hadn't noticed the egg that you had already eaten .... sorry :0)





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  • Message 40

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    Posted by Mermaid the Swishy-Fishy-Tailed Wise One (U10731448) on Tuesday, 27th October 2009

    Tue, 27 Oct 2009 17:26 GMT, in reply to westie (westsussexbird) in message 32



    You're lovely, Westie.

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  • Message 41

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    Posted by PinaGrigio (U11141735) on Tuesday, 27th October 2009

    Mermaid, that was indeed an appalling pun but I love it....

    Sorry, Laura, will try and Do Better on the rant front. I find them much easier in RL where i can wave my hands about dramatically and get much more excitable.

    Love the explanation of wisty sauce, as we call it. Can't tell you why, though, just one of those family inheritances.

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  • Message 42

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    Posted by Mermaid the Swishy-Fishy-Tailed Wise One (U10731448) on Tuesday, 27th October 2009

    Tue, 27 Oct 2009 17:29 GMT, in reply to westie (westsussexbird) in message 39



    Of course you didn't notice it - I'd already eaten it.

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  • Message 43

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    Posted by Westsussexbird or Birdy aka Westie (U6316532) on Tuesday, 27th October 2009

    -0/////


    ooooops,


    :0)))

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  • Message 44

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    Posted by Fire-Pig - proud to wave the protest banner (U12231213) on Tuesday, 27th October 2009

    WFM you are on form today - I hope you do swim your way up here and we can meet in real life!

    F-P

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  • Message 45

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    Posted by Miftrefs Laura in Lothian bufily ftitching (U2587870) on Tuesday, 27th October 2009

    Tue, 27 Oct 2009 17:47 GMT, in reply to westie (westsussexbird) in message 38

    Does it last for ever and ever do you thinkÌý

    Yes.

    In fact, archaeologists retrieved a bottle of Lea & Perrins from the pyramids, which was carbon-dated to 3,000 BC. They said in a scientific report I read that it went really nicely with a liver and bacon casserole, iirc....

    I might have made that up, though smiley - winkeye

    I add a few drops to shephards' pie and to cheese on toast before the toasting bit. Not much but just a few drops.
    When I do lamb casseroles or a pan-gravy from a chop, I add a few drops and stir in a melted spoon of redcurrant jelly and the combination of sweet and sharp goes wonderfully with the richness of the lamb.

    Fully agree, Merms, re westie. And all the other MFCers. A generic loveliness pervades this thread. It's been running for umpteen years and has only ever had the one big spat, I think. (The Great Troll-Assisted MFC Spat of 2006. Don't ask...)

    Either people trying to eat healthily also try to be nice to folk, or people who are nice to folk are likely to take an interest in eating healthily or, well, something! smiley - winkeye

    laura

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  • Message 46

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    Posted by Westsussexbird or Birdy aka Westie (U6316532) on Tuesday, 27th October 2009

    Oh Laura .... :0))

    I just know how much better I feel and it's nice to pass on some encouragement in way I was encouraged when I first joined this thread.

    It was such a relief to me. I had lost a couple of stone once with friendly help and encouragement from my husband (which is why I felt so angry for Archi not getting any help from her OH) but I just knew after I had put on most of it again that I needed to try something else and this thread was it. Chatting with others who were in the same boat.

    However, I then slowly began to put it back on yet again and even had a bing evening which really really shocked me, but it pulled myself up as I thought how crazy it is to keep on yoyo-ing. I researched books and found Gillian Riley's one and that has put me straight. I hope for EVER.

    So thanks everyone ... mutual support.

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  • Message 47

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    Posted by Westsussexbird or Birdy aka Westie (U6316532) on Tuesday, 27th October 2009

    non existent editing ... sorry.

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  • Message 48

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    Posted by Mermaid the Swishy-Fishy-Tailed Wise One (U10731448) on Tuesday, 27th October 2009

    Tue, 27 Oct 2009 18:17 GMT, in reply to Fire-Pig in message 44

    Hear hear, FP!

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  • Message 49

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    Posted by WildMarjoram (U14026934) on Tuesday, 27th October 2009

    Glad to say I'm back on track - lost 1lb 8oz last week. Back to filling in my food diary which is very helpful as before I eat anything I have to think whether I want to write it down!

    Looking forward to reading through the thread - cant keep up - so much happening in less than a day.

    Marji

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  • Message 50

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    Posted by orange pekoe (U9563764) on Tuesday, 27th October 2009

    On the not on a Diet thing: exactly the same for me. I said yesterday that at least I had never yo-yo'd , which is the only good consequence of never being able to countenance the idea of Being On A Diet.

    If it helps understand how we acquired our 'Healthy Eating' addition to the thread title, it was very much to acknowledge that exact approach.

    Great to hear you're doing so well again, WildMarjoram.

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