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  • Message 1. 

    Posted by Fire-Pig - proud to wave the protest banner (U12231213) on Monday, 2nd November 2009

    Welcome to the one and only Mustardland Healthy and Delicious Eating Club, almost award winning for its efforts to motivate you, yes you, into eating and enjoying healthy delicious food, and probably lose weight and gain health and fitness as well. The other name for this club is MFC, this has an ancient pedigree dating back into the mists of time, but as with so much the meaning of those initials may have changed over the aeons. I like to think it stands for My Friendly Club.

    We share the trials and tribulations of trying to think about what we eat and why, so that we can be fine healthy upstanding citizens. We share confidences BUT and it’s a big but we never give our actual weight or clothes size as we are well aware that we are all at different stages on this great adventure. We do like to hear of losses whether its inches, cm, lbs or kg. We will cheer you on, but we are also here when you need encouragement.

    If you are lurking out there, please take the plunge and come on in, there is no membership rule you can come and go as much as you want to - whatever suits you suits us. If you want to, you can pop in several times a day, or just once a week. You may find us in a serious mood or in a silly one; anything is possible here!

    As well as this thread, which by popular request resets itself each week, there are three associated threads. The first of these is Katy’s recipe thread , this is where you will find some actual recipes and possibly eating diaries.

    Another thread is the Cybergym which does cater for those of us who are not as active as we should be as well as the super fit.

    The third thread is the Rota thread see . Please sign up to open the door next week or any other week, apart from composing the opening piece all you need do is bump each of the threads, so not too difficult.

    So my friends KOKO (Keep on keeping on) we are all wonderful people and can all make healthy choices this week.

    F-P

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    Posted by Auntie Prue (U1481323) on Monday, 2nd November 2009

    A lovely opening, fire-Pig - but I would expect nothing less from a fellow piggie : )

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    Posted by anagramladysin (U13783319) on Monday, 2nd November 2009

    Just to say hello and bookmark ... my favourite thread and such a support xxx

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    Posted by Westsussexbird or Birdy aka Westie (U6316532) on Monday, 2nd November 2009

    Bookmarking too and thanks for opening up Fire-Pig.

    I was just going to comment on the end of last week's thread what a really super thread it has been. So, I'll comment at the beginning of this week's thread instead :0)))

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    Posted by Fire-Pig - proud to wave the protest banner (U12231213) on Tuesday, 3rd November 2009

    I want to share a minor triumph with you. Last night I did the ironing and I thought to myself that once I finished I would have one, just one, chocolate. I was thinking about it while ironing and savouring the taste - wasn't quite sure which it would be. I was going to look at the list and take my time to choose. I really enjoyed it in my mind while ironing white shirts. Somehow when all the shirts were ironed, there was no need to hunt out the tin, I'd already enjoyed the chocolate.

    That's a real first for me!

    F-P

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    Posted by puzzler76 (U3733897) on Tuesday, 3rd November 2009

    Wow, F-P, big admiration from me!

    I'm up another pound. Does anyone else find in the pre-menstrual couple of days you stuff food in like it's going out of fashion? It's the one time of the month I completely lose control. I wonder if it's my body's way of preparing itself, or whether I've made that up to make myself feel better...

    Anyway, KOKO everyone,
    Puzzler

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    Posted by Mermaid the Swishy-Fishy-Tailed Wise One (U10731448) on Tuesday, 3rd November 2009

    Tue, 03 Nov 2009 08:40 GMT, in reply to puzzler76 in message 6

    Sorry, Puzzler - can't help. Too far in the past for me to remember. Vague memories of water retention, though.

    Looking at the map, I've realised it's a good thing for me to pedal up northwards of here. Then I can free-wheel back down.

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    Posted by Fire-Pig - proud to wave the protest banner (U12231213) on Tuesday, 3rd November 2009

    Yes I should imagine all the Fire Piggies would agree with you WFM. I can't say that I am sorry it is behind me, the last stages wee very disconcerting for me.

    Heigh ho, it's off to work we go!

    F-P

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    Posted by Westsussexbird or Birdy aka Westie (U6316532) on Tuesday, 3rd November 2009

    Fire-Pig you have reached the nirvana of the chocolate world I think ... enjoying a calorie/fat/sugar free chocolate!

    Puzzler I remember well .... All I can suggest is, might it be worth just making sure you have enough low calorie stuff to stuff in your mouse at that time of the month? Or perhaps stuffing frozen peas, isn't the same as other stuff. :0))

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    Posted by Mermaid the Swishy-Fishy-Tailed Wise One (U10731448) on Tuesday, 3rd November 2009

    Tue, 03 Nov 2009 09:13 GMT, in reply to Fire-Pig in message 8



    nice typo.

    And this little piggy went WEE wee wee............

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    Posted by Miftrefs Laura in Lothian bufily ftitching (U2587870) on Tuesday, 3rd November 2009

    Tue, 03 Nov 2009 09:22 GMT, in reply to puzzler76 in message 6

    Morning all!

    Lovely opening and a great title smiley - smiley

    puzzler, this ravenous stuffing-yourself immediately pre-menstrually... out of curiosity, is it involving things like chocolate, more than, say, things like creamcakes or crisps?

    I just wonder as many women are a bit low in iron at that time, and the body is intelligent enough that it doesn't give you instructions to go and chew a rusty old fence-paling because it knows you won't want to - so it comes up with the most iron-rich thing it knows you do like and sends you to find that. It's how pregnancy cravings work, and also other cravings. As I've mentioned, a few times in my life I've had cravings (very different from really really really wanting chocs!) and three times I've been able to tie it in later to specific deficiencies in my diet at the time. The cravings were for garlic salt (when I had scarlet fever, age 7 or 8); Haagen=Dazs strawberry ice-cream (age 22 when my body-fat levels were very dangerously low due to illness); spring onions e asse (recently when too many energy-driks deplete my blood potassium, it appears).

    So maybe eating more iron-rich healthy options in the week before your period could help, if this is what's happenig? Watercress, all dark green leafy vegetables, oats (of course!) and lots of meat and fish sources.

    laura

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    Posted by Isabel Archer (U13716168) on Tuesday, 3rd November 2009

    Hello all

    Yes, I am always hungrier than usual during the couple of days just before my period and also feel rather bloated not to mention (fiendishly) irritable. I crave carbohydrates in general rather than chocolate specifically so I'm not sure it supports your theory, Laura.

    I do sometimes get very specific cravings though which I think is my body's way of letting me know its needs. Usually, they are pretty good things such as chick peas or watercress.

    Had a slightly too large breakfast this morning but then I woke up hungry as I went to the gym last night.

    Catch you all later

    Isabel x

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    Posted by Sixties Relic SAVE ML (U13777237) on Tuesday, 3rd November 2009

    Hello all, I am still suffering from a cold, which has got to the horribly sore throat stage, so what I am craving is some form of alcolholic sprits.

    Yesterday, as I had run out of whisky I bought a bottle of rather nice sherry and had two small glasses. Very soothing.

    I have resisted the sugary throat sweets. I am a bit off my food so that is A GOOD THING!

    But I feel too rough to go swimming so my exercise has been curtailed for the moment. GRRR.

    Off for some Lemsip now.

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    Posted by Miftrefs Laura in Lothian bufily ftitching (U2587870) on Tuesday, 3rd November 2009

    Tue, 03 Nov 2009 10:09 GMT, in reply to Isabel_Archer in message 12

    I do sometimes get very specific cravings though which I think is my body's way of letting me know its needs. Usually, they are pretty good things such as chick peas or watercress. 

    *grin* I'll stay up here on my hobbyhorse as both of those are high in iron, isabel! smiley - winkeye

    I'm a maintain again, which I'm happy with. It was good yesterday to see the doctor with the knowledge that we* had changed so much since summer in shape, size, BMI and health!

    *well, it wasn't me on my own!

    laura

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    Posted by Isabel Archer (U13716168) on Tuesday, 3rd November 2009

    Ah, but I don't just crave them before my period. Maybe I am a bit low in iron generally. But I am happy to let you stay on your hobby horse for the moment Laura.

    Maintain is very good with everything else that is happening for you at the moment.

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  • Message 16

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    Posted by Sister Primrose of the Red Tinsel Flag (U5405579) on Tuesday, 3rd November 2009

    Morning all, and thanks for opening up F-P.

    As the MFC title grows ever longer I wonder if I could suggest that the date is the first thing in it so it is immediately clear which week's thread we're on?

    Another gain for me today, but on the positive side there is a whisper of a job that might be just the ticket, so hopefully I'll be able to get more of a handle on the old comfort eating thing and start to turn the ship around.

    I agree with Laura on the possibility of the food cravings being iron related. Isabels' post about eating does tend to confirm that and it might well be worth her while getting a full blood count done if it's a month round thing.

    Good veggie sources of iron include baked beans (well actually most pulses, but if you're feeling in need of homey stodge baked beans on wholemeal toast, +/- marmite depending on preference, is a very good iron rich comfort food)

    Hummous with a tomato salad to boost iron uptake is good. A spinach and orange salad would be good. And dried apricots are iron rich.

    Avoid taking a cup of tea half an hour either side of a meal as there's something in tea that reduces the body's ability to absorb non haem iron. (Haem iron is from animal sources and is very readily absorbed, non-haem iron is from veggie sources and is less readily absorbed. In a healthy mixed diet non-haem iron provides more iron than haem iron - can you tell who had an assignment on iron deficiency when she did her Midders?) Same goes for Gaviscon.

    Last but not least try and take something rich in vitamin c with your meal - eg a tomato or capsicum salad or a glass of orange juice, to maximise the amount of non-haem iron you absorb,

    Anyway, KOKO everyone

    PP (who is fond of MFC as a name. The F can mean friendly or feisty , but for me it does also mean fat. I eat very healthy food, just far too much of it, that's why I need to think about the fat)


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    Posted by Fire-Pig - proud to wave the protest banner (U12231213) on Tuesday, 3rd November 2009

    Today just shows what a wonderful ongoing thread this is - really serious stuff about cravings and iron shortages as well as WFM teasing me for my typos. If I could do a backward R I would write Typos R Us - but it might be infringing copyright.

    I have just had a surprise cutting into my lunchtime apple. It was a very funny colour and one of the pips had germinated - at first I thought it was a maggot and then realised it was a white stalk curled up in the centre - never seen that before. I didn't eat the apple, thank goodness for Nairn's Oatcakes they saved me from the temptations downstairs.

    Westis, what's the difference between the oatcakes in boxes with green and those with red tops? They are both described as made with rough oatmeal and I can't see much difference.

    F-P

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    Posted by Isabel Archer (U13716168) on Tuesday, 3rd November 2009

    Thanks Primrose Path. I did have an iron test done about six months ago and I am ok but it is true that I often want to eat iron-rich foods and I luuurve apricots and have porridge (with soya milk and banana or berries) most days for breakfast so maybe I am just topping up naturally.

    One of the things I am enjoying about this thread is that it is enabling me to take more pleasure in the good food that I do eat which somehow makes it easier to forego food I don't need. I looked in the fridge this morning around 11.30, said hello, had an apple and went on till lunch.

    Lunch was home-made lentil stew, left ove from last night, and a wholemeal wrap. I love the small dark green lentils (similar to Puy lentils) and this was a particularly good effort with lots of veg, bay leaves and a glass of red wine as well as stock and tomatoes.

    Good luck with the job PP. Hope it turns out to be more than a whisper.

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    Posted by Kate McLaren etc (U2202067) on Tuesday, 3rd November 2009

    Tue, 03 Nov 2009 18:51 GMT, in reply to Isabel_Archer in message 18



    Since the Big M my weight has been creeping up - I have always been effortlessly slim and want to nip the upcreep in the bud NOW.

    I guess I need to lose about half a stone.

    My problem is that I can't think of anything to cut out, as I don't eat between meals, I don't eat cakes, sweets, chocolate, crisps, biscuits...I hardly ever eat fried foods and when I do it is (say) veggie sausages.

    I have tea with milk and a banana for breakfast, a cheese sandwich and an apple for lunch, and - so far as I can see - a healthy meal in the evening. For example this evening I have had two small quorn "steaks" with tomatoes, mushrooms and green beans. This is fairly typical.

    I don't "exercise" as such, being skintish and short of time, but I do cycle everywhere and never use lifts.

    Ideas?????

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    Posted by geepers (U6804393) on Tuesday, 3rd November 2009

    Tue, 03 Nov 2009 18:58 GMT, in reply to Primrose Path in message 16

    As the MFC title grows ever longer I wonder if I could suggest that the date is the first thing in it so it is immediately clear which week's thread we're on? 

    I'd like to agree with this, although I really don't want to re-open the 'what should we be called' discussion - last week we had no date (that's not a criticism, seeing as how I'm the poster who managed to leave us with no title for a week) and one poster was still posting on the previous week's thread on Monday, and today it took me some time to find this, as the title's so long that both the date and the 'mfc' bit don't show on the mayo. I blame my still fuzzled brain too, of course.

    Last night and tonight I had quite veg-heavy dinners because I was feeling a bit stodged - I think this is a good sign as it means I'm stopping craving comfort food and beginning to think 'I need veg'. We'll gloss over the chocolate - now blamed on (explained by) iron deficiency...

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    Posted by Fire-Pig - proud to wave the protest banner (U12231213) on Tuesday, 3rd November 2009

    First of all a big welcome to DD, I said all were welcome and meant it. Difficult to know how to advise you what to cut out. The only thing I thought of, at first reading, was the cheese, is that every day or just today? Perhaps you could start by keeping a food diary of everything you eat. Is the milk full fat or not?

    Secondly, apologies for the title being overly long and not all appearing on the Mayo - I completely forgot that fact when I thought I was including everything, so mea culpa, mea maxima culpa (Mods something like my fault, my great fault)

    F-P

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    Posted by Kate McLaren etc (U2202067) on Tuesday, 3rd November 2009

    Tue, 03 Nov 2009 20:02 GMT, in reply to Fire-Pig in message 21

    Cheese is every day (or sometimes quorn), but it is very little - there is usually lettuce or tomato to make up bulk. Milk is semi-skimmed at work, and soy at home. I don't take sugar in tea, though I do in coffee which I drink about once a week.

    Will try food diary.

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    Posted by countrypug (U9227943) on Tuesday, 3rd November 2009

    Welcome DD. I don't have any great suggestions as your diet sounds really good, but maybe a food diary is a good idea as the odd thing creeps in that we don't notice, that may have a few extra calories.

    I'm with PP and geepers on the title. It took me 3 scrolls down the VH list to find us this week - not a criticism of you F-P, and thanks for opening, it is just me being a bit slow I think. Lovely opening by the way!

    I must have the iron deficiency craving too, as I've been on the chocolate tonight. After this weekend's repeated meals out, I have decided not to weigh today, as I didn't want to get too fed up about it (or to get a soddit moment). It was probably a good decision hormone wise too as it now happens. I'm perimenopausal now, so this is the first hormonal influence for the last 3 months, which is a bit odd, but explains why I have been exhausted this week, and felt very heavy legged too, all classic hormone things for me (in addition to nightmares).

    I hope this week is fair and kind to all of you, and I'll see you all soon!

    Pug x

    PS - Westie, there is a thread in the Bull that needs your help -



    Get over there with your expert advice!

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    Posted by WildMarjoram (U14026934) on Tuesday, 3rd November 2009

    Hi DD and everyone. Neither up nor down this week but the diary is useful and OH and I often SHARE a choc biscuit now and I savour each little bite and enjoy it more than I used to the two or three choc biscuits I used to eat without even realising I was eating them.

    I have ordered an exercise DVD to hopefully motivate the exercise part of the losing weight/living healthily way of life.

    Talk of iron deficiency above reminds me that a homoeopathic doctor once told me that craving chocolate could indicate a deficiency of zinc in the diet.

    Marji

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  • Message 25

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    Posted by Westsussexbird or Birdy aka Westie (U6316532) on Tuesday, 3rd November 2009

    Pug thanks, I've been over to the campervan thread ... carrick didn't put camper in the title so I had missed it, but I've been gardening a lot today and not been on line much.

    Tis late, but just to extend a really warm welcome to Drystane ... it's such a nuisance that as we get older our bodies need less food and I think it is a matter of just cutting back a tiny amount on the quantity you eat .... and the idea of writing everything down is really good.

    I'm quite capable of eating something without really thinking about it and that is something I've worked on really hard. It has made it possible for me to keep off weight I lost instead of gradually putting it back on again.

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    Posted by HamsterMama aka nifty-fifty (U14121030) on Tuesday, 3rd November 2009

    Tue, 03 Nov 2009 23:29 GMT, in reply to westie (westsussexbird) in message 25

    Now I've caught up. see you tomorrow - RL permittimg.

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  • Message 27

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    Posted by Kate McLaren etc (U2202067) on Wednesday, 4th November 2009

    Yes, westie, I think that is the conclusion I have come to. Interestingly I have noticed that I actually /want/ less food as well, so maybe all I need to do is adjust portion sizes down to what I want rather than what I automaticallly eat "because that is the portion size I have always eaten".

    Anyway have bought bathroom scales, did not put sugar in coffee this morning, and we shall see.

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  • Message 28

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    Posted by Fire-Pig - proud to wave the protest banner (U12231213) on Wednesday, 4th November 2009

    DD please do not weigh yourself too obsessively. As we discussed last week, weight can vary from day to day, we can't always work out why. Once a week is usually recommended, daily can be depressing. If they are in your bathroom, possibly weigh first thing in the morning (or second after going to the loo!!) in the nuddy. That way you know it is just your weight and no clothes involved to think about.

    How was the coffee? Did it taste good? We want people to enjoy their food here.

    Are you someone, like me, brought up to finish everything on your plate? I have found it hard to learn to be able to leave something I don't want to eat. I KNOW full well it did no good to the starving millions in China, but I was forced to eat it and think of them.

    F-P

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  • Message 29

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    Posted by Helen (U1476131) on Wednesday, 4th November 2009

    Morning all

    Katie has a bit of a cough but is still as hungry as ever. I haven't lost any weight this week because of all the naughty but fun foods at the hallowe'en party (cupcakes made up as spiders with mini teacake on top and liquorice legs!) but though I put on 1kg, it's coming off again now, and I'm declaring a maintain rather than a gain. Didn't miss not drinking at the party, it's now been three weeks since I decided to go teetotal til I reach n kg (with a day off for Christmas) and hasn't been at all difficult to stick to.

    We've been to buggyfit, a power walk and boxercise circuit in the local park. I was the only one to turn up this week, so for a fiver I got an hour's personal training! This class is only running in fair weather and only til the end of November as it gets too cold. But Tuesdays there's a Legs, Bums and Tums class where we use the babies as resistance (do squats whilst carrying them, and so on) so I went to that too yesterday and today I can hardly walk. Must be a good workout! The babies seem to enjoy it too.

    Should've been going for Katie's first swimming lesson today, but as she has a cough we're probably not going to go in the pool. I took her to the quack's yesterday, (walking the line between neurotic and neglectful mum and probably erring on the side of neurotic this time) and he said there's nothing wrong with her lungs, the cough is all just "top end" but still best wait a week before starting swimming. So we're going to go along so she knows what the pool smells and sounds like, and I can see what the class is like and whether I'll be able to keep my "ears" (hearing aids) in or not, and we'll start properly next week instead.

    Hi Drystane, hope you get some useful help and support here. I think your food and exercise diary is rather good already - except possibly I'd start with making sure of getting the 5-a-day fruit and veg, and keep the portion sizes of those large so you don't get hungry, and then things like cheese sandwiches become smaller as you need less of them. I wouldn't worry too much about putting a little weight on, either, if you've always been slim. Have you checked your Body Mass Index? (Multiply your height in metres by itself, and divide your weight in kg by the result, or search for online BMI calculators that may have inputs in stones,lbs and feet if you prefer those) if you can maintain your weight at a BMI of between 20 and 25 then you're still a healthy weight, even if it's a few pounds more than you're used to.


    KOKO everyone. Off to change a nappy, again. Will look in this afternoon sometime and see who's about.

    H & K

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    Posted by Kate McLaren etc (U2202067) on Wednesday, 4th November 2009

    I wouldn't think of weighing myself every day...now own bathroom scales for the first time in my life and just don't have the weighing mindset.

    No, I don't like unsugared (actually, un-honeyed) coffee, but it seems to me that I have so little I can cut down on that I need to grab everything I can think of, and a large dollop of honey seems a good one.

    I certainly can't throw food away, but I can put leftovers in the fridge. On the other hand since I live alone I simply cook as much as I want - or, if it is something like stuffed butternut squash, as much as I want for two meals. I will simply have to get used to cooking less, which will be a bit hit-and-miss I suspect.

    I think what happened is that I put on my half-stone or so during the second bit of my Annus Horribilis (Mods: HM Queen used this phrase so I think I may) between about last November and June and I simply haven't got rid of it - I don't think any more has gone on since then. So with luck a bit of cutting down should do it.

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    Posted by Kate McLaren etc (U2202067) on Wednesday, 4th November 2009

    btw I am nowhere near overweight, I am just aware that I weigh a little too much for "me" - a bit uncomfortable and clothes tight. And I would like to lose it now before I do get anywhere near overweight.

    No worries about my five a day! I live mostly on fruit and veg - yesterday was more like eight portions.

    The cheese sandwich is simply two slices of bread with soy spread and cheese and tomato/lettuce, so couldn't really be made smaller or bigger.

    It is the evening meal I need to look at, but at the same time I don't want to be starving myself as that is counterproductive - body goes into starvation mode and also Crunchies and things are suddenly "needed"!

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    Posted by Auntie Prue (U1481323) on Wednesday, 4th November 2009

    Hello Drystane.

    I expect that you will lose your small amount of unwanted weight - but very slowly.

    Imagine you had been obese - you would have lost quite quickly to start with - and then as you approached your target weight, it would have become annoyingly slow. It is just that have started from that final stage.

    ... and if only the rest of us had taken ourselves in hand when there was only a small amount to lose!


    Good luck anyway - even if it is only a pound a month, you will get there in the end.

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    Posted by Auntie Prue (U1481323) on Wednesday, 4th November 2009

    Back again already.

    But to say a temporary farewell to fellow MFCers.

    We are off on holiday tomorrow - will see you again in about a month's time.

    Will try to maintain as best I can - but I can at least promise to eat healthily (most of the time).

    KOKO and hugs to all.

    Prue

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    Posted by Miftrefs Laura in Lothian bufily ftitching (U2587870) on Wednesday, 4th November 2009

    Wed, 04 Nov 2009 10:18 GMT, in reply to Drystane Dyke in message 31

    DD,

    Welcome, lovely to see you here! smiley - smiley

    You say yourself there's little you can cut down on, and that your extra half-stone probably came during miserable times... Can I suggest that actually your diet sounds very healthy and perfectly good?

    What I would suggest is that your metabolism is messed up from times when you may have eaten less than you needed, or eaten erratically?

    By all means do things like reducing honey in coffee, but... well, what about giving it a few weeks with the food diary plus an intentional 10-minute brisk walk every day added in, to see if that starts to stabilise your body?
    I don't know much about the effects of menopause on metabolism except that it does slow it down - and I'm not sure your food intake really could be reduced by much without you missing out on some essentials - we don't want you fading away to nothing!

    Anyway, the food diary can be a real eye-opener, so good luck with that - oh, and sometimes it's surprising if you check just what "a portion" is and find you've been scoffing doubles of that!

    laura

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    Posted by Kate McLaren etc (U2202067) on Wednesday, 4th November 2009

    Have a good hol, Auntie Prue.

    A pound a month, eek, then it will take until halfway through next year to lose...

    Ah well, an Authoritative Person has told me half a stone is a small amount to lose so I am happy - it seemed insurmountable to me, who have never tried to lose weight before.

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    Posted by geepers (U6804393) on Wednesday, 4th November 2009

    Wed, 04 Nov 2009 10:22 GMT, in reply to Auntie Prue in message 33

    have a good holiday, Auntie P.

    DD - like you, I can't throw food away, but another alternative to putting leftovers in the fridge could be to make soup with them and freeze it. I was raised on Leftovers Soup and it's really very good. (Especially when there's been a chinese, or a curry in the recent past.)

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    Posted by Kate McLaren etc (U2202067) on Wednesday, 4th November 2009

    oh, and sometimes it's surprising if you check just what "a portion" is and find you've been scoffing doubles of that! 

    (sorry to be hogging the thread, I will go away soon I promise)

    I think that is precisely it, Laura. I am eating healthily but too much for a lady of a certain age. You may also be right about my metabolism being messed up by the previous bit of the Annus Horribilis, when (as you rightly remember) I pretty well couldn't eat at all.

    Not sure about the brisk walk as that is problematic with the old slipped disc/sciatica (I can walk for miles, but not fast) but what I might do is an extra few miles on the bike. I can cycle when I can't walk, so that should be good.

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    Posted by Fire-Pig - proud to wave the protest banner (U12231213) on Wednesday, 4th November 2009

    DD, I'm not sure giving up the sugar in your coffee is necessarily a good idea - you said you only had it once a week. You want to be able to enjoy it on that occasion. Perhaps just a tad less than before rather than none at all?

    My aim, and I think of most of us here, is to get to a lifestyle we are happy with, which will maintain our healthy weight (when we reach it as we all will someday!) Healthy lifestyle sometimes includes eating out with friends and not then agonising over the overeating during the evening/day out.

    BTW I thought you looked wondrously slim in Bala, but if YOU are not happy with yourself, you are not happy! I have just made the horrible calculation there is still more than a stone to go before I reach BMI overweight rather than obese.

    F-P

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    Posted by Mermaid the Swishy-Fishy-Tailed Wise One (U10731448) on Wednesday, 4th November 2009

    Wed, 04 Nov 2009 10:58 GMT, in reply to Fire-Pig in message 38

    Drystane - you can't possibly hog the thread.

    Only we Pigs can do that.

    Went china painting with friends yesterday. I was doing a patchwork piggy bank in reds, yellows and oranges. Somehow seemed appropriate. Didn't finish so will have to go back.

    We also did a lot of walking and I realised how much fitter I am. All this pedalling round the village pond. And a few pounds less to carry. Feeling more encouraged.

    Had a meal out - Stilton and brocccccoli quiche with salad - and CHIPS (not that many). I ate the lot and thoroughly enjoyed it.

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    Posted by Fire-Pig - proud to wave the protest banner (U12231213) on Wednesday, 4th November 2009

    DD, just in case you need an explanation, last week we discovered that although I am the one and only Fire-Pig in ML, there are three others on this thread who were born in the Chinese year of the Fire Pig, WFM being one of them.

    Love the idea of your patchwork china piggybank, WFM and good to hear that you are feeling fitter.

    OH has been a darling today and fitted the new desktop in my crafting area so he gets his favourite supper tonight - stir fry prawns and cucumber! I like it too, YP is not so keen but he had something he liked yesterday. Back upstairs to continue tidying/sorting.

    KOKO one and all

    F-P

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    Posted by BlueLagoon (U7609387) on Wednesday, 4th November 2009

    Woo hoo hello everyone. Having missed a couple of weeks of Rosemary Conley classes stepped on the scales with fear in my heart. Only to find 4lbs had slipped off. It's a real confidence boost as it makes you think wow maybe I could be a size down by Christmas. I would love to be two sizes smaller but even one would be a miracle. We got to hold 1 lb of pretend fat today and I held it to my tum in horror. Imagine what many of those look like stuck round your body - should be just a simple decision to ditch the fatty foods, so why's it so bloomin' hard??

    Have bought a load of carrots and rice cakes to munch on and just having fish cakes and salad for din. Has anyone heard of Xenical, I've heard it can help reduce fat in your diet medically?

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    Posted by Fire-Pig - proud to wave the protest banner (U12231213) on Wednesday, 4th November 2009

    Helen I was delighted to read your post. I love the idea of babies being involved in Legs Bums and Tums - don't think anyone had thought of such a thing in my day. Mind you, Younger Piglet was born in Islamabad so it is unlikely there is anything in that area even now!

    I don't think you need the reminder to KOKO as you are so obviously doing it all!

    F-P

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    Posted by Miftrefs Laura in Lothian bufily ftitching (U2587870) on Wednesday, 4th November 2009

    Wed, 04 Nov 2009 16:54 GMT, in reply to BlueLagoon in message 41

    BlueLagoon,

    a mate of mine who is a pharmaceutical rep is really scary on the subject of ALL pseudo-medical ways to lose weight.
    Seriously - don't waste your money, none work effectively and some are dangerous.
    The prescription drug that prevents fats being absorbed fully do work but you get what's charmingly known as "faecal leakage" fulltime, as in, not occasionally but you have to wear pads... er, no, I think eating sensibly just got a lot less difficult by compare!!

    If you want to speed things up, bump up exercise from walking 10,000 steps a day to walking 15,000 steps. Check your diet NEVER drops below fourteen hundred calories a day as below that level your body hoards fat for the famine it thinks is happening. Make sure you eat only when hungry and up your water intake as we often think we're hungry when we're actually thirsty.

    But after what my mate says (and she SELLS these things!), I wouldn't try any of those things...

    laura

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    Posted by Kate McLaren etc (U2202067) on Wednesday, 4th November 2009

    Wed, 04 Nov 2009 17:42 GMT, in reply to Laura in Lothian () in message 43

    Laura, do you *count* the steps? I mean, do you go around muttering four thousand two hundred and sixty two, four thousand two hundred and sixty three...

    ???!!!

    Have discovered, upon using my new electronic scales, that the loss needed is more like ten pounds, gulp.

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    Posted by Miftrefs Laura in Lothian bufily ftitching (U2587870) on Wednesday, 4th November 2009

    Wed, 04 Nov 2009 17:59 GMT, in reply to Drystane Dyke in message 44

    Noooo! *giggle*

    A pedometer - clips to your belt, you set it to zero and it registers the approximate number of steps - none of them are 100% accurate obviously but it's a useful indication. You can get them fancier or less fancy - I reckon it's worth spending about 8-10 quid for a good one, and usually that will also do a few fancy tricks too.

    Days I'm thinking, ah yes I've probably done most of the steps just being busy around the house, have turned out to involve (consistently) about 2-4,000. But trotting into George Square and back turns out to be a good 7-8,000 when I'd thought it might be maybe 5,000.

    A mile is about 2,500 or thereabouts. So it's four miles including all the couple of steps between sink and cooker, etc. Your total daily walking - average was 6 miles in the 1950s, iirc! Now under one mile...

    10,000 is recommended for normal daily fitness, not for losing weight, just what everyone ought to be doing in an active life - erk!!

    As I say, when I upped mine to 15k a massive change in shape occurred - leaner, longer legs, better posture, all kinds of improvements on top of losing fat. I posted a day or two ago in the Cybergym on how I use the walking to work core postural muscles if you want to go and read it. A short walk if I do it right leaves me feeling like I did loads of sit-ups and my pot-belly is flattening nicely without actually doing anything other than walk!

    And you don't have to do it fast either - to start with I couldn't do it fast AND with my spine where it should be, so it had to be slow and regal!

    laura

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    Posted by Westsussexbird or Birdy aka Westie (U6316532) on Wednesday, 4th November 2009

    Quick read through and a wave to Prue. You'll be missed :0))))) Have a lovely time.

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    Posted by flutter-by (U2729197) on Wednesday, 4th November 2009

    Hellooo there!

    1.1kg up from a couple of weeks ago, but that included 1.5 weeks on holiday the first 5 days were a bit like christmas. Lots of meals round friends houses with lots of wine and lots roast dinners and lots of whisky. So 1.1kg is pretty good.

    Lots of exercise though, we stayed with my mum and she babysat while we did decadent things like going mountain biking together.

    Now I'm back on the straight and narrow, soup for lunch, and porridge for breakfast, and proper dinner. But what with Owen starting his trying out nursery, and me dreading going back to work (onluy 2 more weeks) it's getting harder to avoid the chocolate......

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    Posted by Westsussexbird or Birdy aka Westie (U6316532) on Wednesday, 4th November 2009

    You've done well Flutters ... just keep on keeping on :0))

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    Posted by countrypug (U9227943) on Wednesday, 4th November 2009

    Evening all. Well done on that minor gain Fluts, in the face of meals out that is very good. Commiserations about going back to work - I can still remember not looking forward to that, even though it is 16 years or so ago. Is it full time work, or can you go back part time?

    Helen, respect on the alcohol decision - especially at this time of year. We only have wine once a week except for our occasional weekends off, but I know they are empty calories and do mount up.

    Auntie Prue, have a lovely holiday, enjoy the rest. DD, it sounds like you have a plan. Maybe weighing once a month would be more sensible for you as your weight loss is then more likely to feel as if it is going somewhere (if that makes any sense), as I agree that it will be likely to be slow and steady. I have lost a stone in the last year or so (up and down bits in the middle!) and I have a lot more still to lose than you.

    I'm still majorly carb and sweet thing craving, and have given in to some of it, as I think I need a rest this week to get back to my old self by the weekend with a bit of luck. I'm still managing walks, but no runs yet, my legs are still a bit heavy feeling.

    Onwards and inwards all

    Pug x

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    Posted by countrypug (U9227943) on Wednesday, 4th November 2009

    Sorry to reply to myself, but I forgot to congratulate Bluelagoon on those 4lbs. It is so satisfying when you don't expect it isn't it?

    Pug x

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