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  • Message 1. 

    Posted by geepers (U6804393) on Monday, 23rd November 2009

    A very warm (particularly with it being just a tad on the chilly side at the mo) welcome to this week's MFC/Healthy Eating Club, a weekly thread for anyone wanting to lose weight/maintain a weight loss/eat more healthily. We are a one-rule-only club and the rule is that we don't divulge real life weights or sizes as the weight/size you are currently unhappy about may well be someone else's goal. Feel free to tell us how much you want to lose (in pounds, kilos, inches, centimetres, whatevers) just don't give us starting/ending figures.

    Regular posters are as welcome as they are every week, and anyone who's lurking wondering whether to be brave enough to post, do come on in - there isn't anyone posting here who doesn't know how hard it can be sometimes to stick to a wise eating plan so please jump in with both feet. Christmas is now definitely looming, which may well help provide an extra bit of motivation, either because of the thought of party clothes to squeeze in to, or in order to store up a good bit of credit to allow a bit of relaxation in the face of all that temptation.

    We don't advocate any one way of losing weight (for 'losing weight' please read 'losing weight/maintaining a weight loss' to save me typing it in full every time!) but we do focus on eating healthily, rather than on making one lettuce leaf last for three dinners. And we do all do our best to keep each other on track - so if you're down in the dumps, post here anyway, because sooner or later someone's going to come along to give you a good old boost. KOKO is a bit of a rallying cry (keep on keeping on), or you might prefer 'inwards and downwards' (as in, of belts and scales).

    I'm not a scientist, but it does seem to be true that the best way to lose weight is to eat less* and move more, and we have two sister threads that can help with this:

    Katy's cookbook for heaps of tips on healthy cooking:


    GEm's gym for heaps of tips on exercise:


    (* really that should read 'eat less of what's not entirely good for you' but it doesn't trip off the tongue as well)

    And we also have a thread for people to volunteer to open up each Tuesday (or Monday evening in my case):


    Here's to another good week for us all!

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    Posted by countrypug (U9227943) on Monday, 23rd November 2009

    Evening geepers, I'm first here for once. Bookmark post really, and as I said elsethread, I don't think I'll weigh this week.

    I'm glad to hear the packing has gone well geepers. I should be at aquafit tonight, but called off as I was so tired after our weekend away.

    I hope everyone has a great week.

    Pug x

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    Posted by geepers (U6804393) on Monday, 23rd November 2009

    Mon, 23 Nov 2009 20:55 GMT, in reply to countrypug in message 2

    evening pug - sorry you're not feeling up to aquafit, but if you're tired then you should give yourself a break (says me, sitting here on the sofa with both feet up). I should be doing some tidying, or sorting, or something-ing, but I just can't - today's been way too busy, and I need a rest. Tomorrow, and all that...

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    Posted by Fire-Pig - proud to wave the protest banner (U12231213) on Monday, 23rd November 2009

    Evening geepers, thanks for opening up. Glad the packing went well, I remember such days well!

    Fairly good start to the week here - threw my old wok out as my new Ken Hom one arrived from Lakeland, along with its free baby! I thought the parcel must have been drowned as it took far longer than theirs usually do! I used the baby wok tonight as the others were out, it is going to be very useful.

    KOKO one and all

    F-P

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    Posted by Anne-Marie (U1474870) on Monday, 23rd November 2009

    Geepers, good luck with the move. I think I have picked up that you are heading to distant shores. I have lost count of the times we have moved to somewhere new and international, so I can empathise with you and all that you are going through - stress of organising; nerves about arriving etc. We did it once with a 2 year old and a 9 week old - challenging!!!

    AMx

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    Posted by Helen (U1476131) on Monday, 23rd November 2009

    Busy day tomorrow with "Legs, Bums and Tums for Babies and Mums" at 10, and Bookstart Rhymetime at the library in the afternoon, so I'll pop in now to say I'm rather chuffed that the jeans I only managed to squeeze back into a few weeks ago are now falling off and need a belt, and according to the scales I'm nearly halfway to my -9kg interim goal, and ever so close indeed to a new Stone Zone (just because I usually use kg doesn't mean I can't keep an eye on Stone Zones for an extra boost)

    Another boosting statistic: I have now lost 20% of my bodyweight since August 20th. Katie accounts for much of that. But by no means all.

    Only actually a very minor loss to report this week, but that's because of the houseparty last weekend where the weather was too dire for us to go out, so we sat around inside and ate much too much. To have maintained over that, and then lost a couple of hundred grammes on top is something I'm quite happy with.

    Looking forward to reading the thread sometime in the next day or two.

    KOKO all,

    Helen

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    Posted by HamsterMama aka nifty-fifty (U14121030) on Monday, 23rd November 2009

    Mon, 23 Nov 2009 22:25 GMT, in reply to Helen in message 6

    Great opening, thank you geepers. Good luck with the move and I hope you can stay in touch as I love your style.

    I am quite annoyed with myself for last week's gain of 3lbs, but now we have a new week to play with and that's all that matters.

    KOKO peeps!

    Niftyx

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    Posted by countrypug (U9227943) on Monday, 23rd November 2009

    Well done Helen - you are a star! I think I need a bit of a willpower boost, as I really am stagnating a bit for the last few months - not putting more weight on, but just not losing much. Still, I'm still 4 stone less than when I joined here, so I need to keep that in mind.

    Hopefully I might get out running again this week.....

    (I've written that down now so must actually do it!)

    Pug x

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    Posted by Fire-Pig - proud to wave the protest banner (U12231213) on Monday, 23rd November 2009

    Helen you are doing superbly. This exercise with babes is the one where you use them as a counterweight isn't it? Wish that had been around when I had babies!

    I've been pulling my trousers up all week so I really must do something, might be just inserting new elastic before getting new ones before out trip to Italy.

    Nifty - that was last week, as you say it is a new week now and we don't carry our food lapses forward each day is a brand new day in which to eat sensibly and healthily!

    Pug, I think I am stagnating a bit now too, but I still have some way to go before I lose 4 stone.

    F-P

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    Posted by geepers (U6804393) on Monday, 23rd November 2009

    Mon, 23 Nov 2009 22:56 GMT, in reply to Fire-Pig in message 9

    I would love to lose 20% of my bodyweight.



    This was supposed to be the week I started getting back on track, wasn't it. My friend came round today and did ALL my air freight packing, which equals quite a lot of packing. I bought her lunch and took us to a cafe that does (amongst other things) soup and Irish stew. She said she wanted a bacon and egg soda, and there was my willpower gone. So, I had a bacon and egg soda for lunch, in addition to about a third of a German biscuit this morning (it wasn't nice), a triple choc cookie with tea (she can't take a drink without a biscuit), then another when a different friend came round to take all the charity shop stuff away, then a v healthy stir fry with white fish and brown rice, and - oh dear - another triple choc cookie. And now a second glass of white wine.

    STOP GEEPERS!!!

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    Posted by Fire-Pig - proud to wave the protest banner (U12231213) on Monday, 23rd November 2009

    Pray tell me, what's a bacon and egg soda?

    Some of my Irish relatives lived in Enniscorthy and when we looked out of the window we saw a wonderful sign advertising Buttles Famous Barley Fed Bacon, so I hope whatever your bacon and egg soda was, it was made of barley fed bacon!

    Enjoy the Irish food and the friendship now, there is more to life than healthy eating, you are laying down a store of memories to get you through the days when you are in a new place.

    F-P

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    Posted by geepers (U6804393) on Monday, 23rd November 2009

    Mon, 23 Nov 2009 23:20 GMT, in reply to Fire-Pig in message 11

    a soda is something served in soda bread. So, a bacon and egg soda is a bacon and egg sandwich where the bread is soda bread.

    (and for those who've never been to Ireland, this is soda bread

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    Posted by Katy Tulip (U2239809) on Tuesday, 24th November 2009

    Tue, 24 Nov 2009 06:25 GMT, in reply to geepers in message 1

    Hi everyone, and thanks for opening up, geepers - and good luck with your new venture!

    New system starts at WW this week, I'll find out all the details tomorrow at my weekly meeting. Hohum. Mind you, p'raps I've gone a bit stale, and doing something different after 6 years will quick-start a bit better weight loss instead of treading fatty water the past year or so. Oh well, we shall see...

    Koko one and all,

    Katy

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    Posted by anagramladysin (U13783319) on Tuesday, 24th November 2009

    Bookmarking.
    Just off to the gym ...

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  • Message 15

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    Posted by Isabel Archer (U13716168) on Tuesday, 24th November 2009

    Morning all.

    Did very well yesterday until a late night premenstrual sugar craving led me (and I'm a bit embarrassed about this) to a jar of apricot jam.

    Work is very hard at the moment, I am shattered and I am having problems getting to the gym - but will put aside the time later in the week. I've got too much to lose(!) not to keep it up.

    Well done to all those who have lost/maintained/gained only a little/eaten healthily etc.

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    Posted by Miftrefs Laura in Lothian bufily ftitching (U2587870) on Tuesday, 24th November 2009

    Tue, 24 Nov 2009 09:45 GMT, in reply to geepers in message 12

    So, a bacon and egg soda is a bacon and egg sandwich where the bread is soda bread. 

    Ah.

    Was I the only one trying to relate "a bacon and egg soda" to "an ice cream soda" and imagining the bacon and fried egg gently curdling over the ice-cubes in a highball glass of chilled lemonade?

    smiley - smiley

    Not weighed nor measured this morning because I can SEE that my clothes are a little tighter and my wobbles a little wobblier than they were.
    So I've been out and done 3,000 steps this morning and had two apples for breakfast. I think my lunches have been sprawling so it'll be a carefully-allotted lunch.
    Portion size, laura, portion size...

    Happy shrinking, all!


    laura

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    Posted by puzzler76 (U3733897) on Tuesday, 24th November 2009

    Another pound up for me this week. No good excuses, just eating too much.

    Stop nibbling, Puzzler, stop nibbling...

    KOKO everyone,
    Puzzler

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  • Message 18

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    Posted by orange pekoe (U9563764) on Tuesday, 24th November 2009

    Hello everyone, just wondering if anyone's around - need someone to wrestle this Wensleydale off me. There's less of it every time I look...

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    Posted by Fire-Pig - proud to wave the protest banner (U12231213) on Tuesday, 24th November 2009

    Talk to it orange pekoe - tell it to get back into the fridge pronto or you will bin it never to be seen again!

    The Eye of Mustard is on you!

    Love

    F-P

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    Posted by anagramladysin (U13783319) on Tuesday, 24th November 2009

    I'm here ... give it over!!
    Mind you, I have just licked the bowl after making my Christmas cake ... quality control, you know. I don't like Christmas cake so made my own list of ingredients - cherries, pecan nuts, chopped prunes and almonds, with lots of brandy. It smells lovely. Missed stir-up Sunday though.
    Wensleydale goes brilliantly with Christmas cake ...

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  • Message 21

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    Posted by Miftrefs Laura in Lothian bufily ftitching (U2587870) on Tuesday, 24th November 2009

    Tue, 24 Nov 2009 15:55 GMT, in reply to orange pekoe in message 18

    The Eye of Mustard seest all, orange pekoe... not a crumb of cheese falls [into your mouth] but thou Eye seest it.

    Me, I'm making coconut ice... you can't buy it anywhere these days in Edinburgh so I'm making some because I love it. It's going to be cut into TINY pieces and then put into a sweetie-tin along with very tiny pieces of homemade fudge, etc.

    I keep buying the damn stuff and eatign the whole packet, so if I make it, and make it into tiny pieces and use my doll's tea-set sized little dishes then I hope that will limit me - it worked before on the ice-cream cup-sundaes in the little china cup, after all!

    I just need to play doll's tea-parties more often, clearly...

    I'm bonkers, actually, aren't I?

    [wave, wave] hi Rex if you're looking in today (he said he might check us out on his fancy web-phone so I gave him the URL and then regretted it horribly as two social worlds collide with much possible embarrassment for me!)

    laura

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    Posted by geepers (U6804393) on Tuesday, 24th November 2009

    Tue, 24 Nov 2009 17:09 GMT, in reply to Laura in Lothian () in message 21

    I've lost weight!!!

    Only because I've had my hair cut, mind...

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    Posted by flutter-by (U2729197) on Tuesday, 24th November 2009

    A gain this week - not surprising as my appetite is back. But today has been good, and it was my first day at the office, but my daytime intake was a cheese sandwich, lots of tea, 3 plums and an apple. Only what I took with me, which is the habit that I want to get to.

    Going now, very tired.

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    Posted by orange pekoe (U9563764) on Tuesday, 24th November 2009

    Hey Fluts, hope the return to work goes smoothly. Certainly a regular routine can make sensible choices easier.

    (Leaving aside the other health risk of offices: endless birthday cakes, it's Friday cakes, so-and-so's leaving chocs...!)

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    Posted by countrypug (U9227943) on Tuesday, 24th November 2009

    Evening folks. I hope the day at work went ok Fluts. Did you find yourself thinking about Owen a lot - or, like me at work, suddenly feel guilty because you hadn't worried about them for an hour?


    I think I wrote about going for a run today when I was here last night. Sadly I didn't get there, partly as I missed a good 2 to 3 hours sleep last night (work was to blame), and I'm not too good on 5 hours sleep! The weather was rather pants here too. Rubbish excuses though. I didn't weigh, as I know I will have put weight on, so I'm waiting till next week and will try to get myself kicked into gear before then.

    Onwards and inwards folks, and keep the fighting spirit up (it seems quite a few of us are struggling at the moment).

    Pug x

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    Posted by Anne-Marie (U1474870) on Tuesday, 24th November 2009

    I could do with the Mustard Eye focusing on me. A bit of a stressful day which has had me reaching for comfort food. I'm a bit annoyed with myself because I do know better - grrr! Anyway, I'll be at work tomorrow so out of temptation's way (and hoping for the stress to be resolved too)

    Sorry to moan.

    Well done on the food front at work, flutterby. How did the rest of it go - leaving Owen, being away from home. I know you said you were feeling a bit mixed about it beforehand. HAd my fingers crossed for you.

    AMx

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    Posted by Fire-Pig - proud to wave the protest banner (U12231213) on Tuesday, 24th November 2009

    Been thinking of you Fluts - it is not easy leaving them behind but they do survive it! The smiles when you return are wonderful aren't they?

    A-M have a mustard hug {{ HUG }} if you do hugs wrap yourself in mustard instead of comfort food.

    I'm one who is far better at eating properly when at work. I don't want to sound smug but I do think I have conquered going downstairs to buy choccy one of the problems working in a tourist attraction is that we have both a café and a shop selling chocolate on the site. I don't think I have bought any chocolate there since March. I have bought the very occasional flapjack but not chocolate.

    F-P

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    Posted by geepers (U6804393) on Tuesday, 24th November 2009

    Tue, 24 Nov 2009 21:15 GMT, in reply to Fire-Pig in message 27

    I've just had another two jabs - so that's four down 3 to go, end's in sight and all that...

    Sorry to hear about pug and A-M's stress, but well done to flutters on a good day's eating. Hopefully one day soon one of you will be able to congratulate me similarly - no sign of it yet though.

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    Posted by Fire-Pig - proud to wave the protest banner (U12231213) on Tuesday, 24th November 2009

    Geepers you may not be eating as well as you would like at the moment - but I am willing to bet that you are at least thinking a bit about what you eat and eating less than you might have done had you never ventured into MFC.

    I'm sure they give some of the jabs just for the joy of it - I hated having to take little Piglets every six months for cholera jabs, it seemed such a mean thing to do when we had never heard of anyone having cholera near where we were then. Having said that, we were in Ghana when a cholera epidemic hit the country and it was quite frightening. As well as accepting western medicine, pagan rituals started happening and by chance we witnessed a procession to the sea to "throw the disease back" as it was supposed to have been brought to the country by fishermen.

    Another life, another time ....

    KOKO one and all

    F-P

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  • Message 30

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    Posted by Westsussexbird or Birdy aka Westie (U6316532) on Tuesday, 24th November 2009

    Just popping in ... I've been rather absent but I'm still on board really, sending encouraging vibes to everyone.

    I'm managing to eat sensibly though not weighing myself til the end of the month which I find a very good unstressful thing to do.

    I got drawn in to checking my weight a week or so ago and wished I hadn't as it seemed to throw my thought processes quite considerably.

    I know I am eating well and not too much, it just might be a bit too much to lose weight though and as I have a few pounds still to go, all rather annoying but not the end of the world.

    Well done everyone, and please excuse me for not welcoming newbies or encouraging oldies, but I have quite a bit on my plate (ha!) at home at the moment.

    I'm fine though.


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    Posted by countrypug (U9227943) on Tuesday, 24th November 2009

    Glad to hear you're OK Westie - I'd noticed you weren't about much. ~~wave~~, or a hug if you would like.

    Pug x

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    Posted by Westsussexbird or Birdy aka Westie (U6316532) on Tuesday, 24th November 2009

    Both thanks Pug :0))

    I'm just very preoccupied at home at the moment... but this thread is a joy to read. I'll mostly lurk just for now.

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    Posted by Fire-Pig - proud to wave the protest banner (U12231213) on Wednesday, 25th November 2009

    Try to take some time for yourself Westie, however preoccupied you are with home life. Try to make the time "to stand and stare", I was thinking of you as I saw the starlings come to roost last night.

    I was seduced by the smell of Granary Toast this morning, YP was going out to work and was up before me. I succumbed and had some very tasty toast for breakfast.

    I needed to gird my loins to prepare some annual accounts, they should have been done months ago but all my inner turmoil about Elder Piglet meant I could not concentrate. The auditor has now given me a deadline of the end of this month and they will be done! I did half yesterday and should complete today.

    KOKO one and all

    F-P

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    Posted by LostInML (U13646691) on Wednesday, 25th November 2009

    I've hidden away for a while, since I wasn't doing very well, but have kick-started myself back into good routines and habits now. So far, so good (3 weeks and counting...) The bread had to go. Well, mostly. I still have a slice of toast in the morning, but all the snacking on bread has gone, and that has helped enormously with some steady weight loss again after a period of it creeping back up. I have also increased my swimming days, which is helping and is not quite as onerous as I had somehow feared (though it does mean I have to be even more organised than usual to fit it in before work.) This afternoon I'm going to talk to someone (not sure who) via my GP about exercise and fitness programmes. I hope that will be encouraging rather than daunting. The underlying motivation behind this latest round of effort was being told that blood pressure tablets were looming, also that my cholesterol was 'a little high', both of which cause them more panic because I'm diabetic. I really want to avoid more tablets as long as I can, so needed to get moving to see if that would help. I hope it will. Right now I feel slightly more positive, but I know my mood is still pretty fragile...

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    Posted by LostInML (U13646691) on Wednesday, 25th November 2009

    I'm still struggling to like porridge, though... even with strawberries!

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    Posted by Miftrefs Laura in Lothian bufily ftitching (U2587870) on Wednesday, 25th November 2009

    Wed, 25 Nov 2009 10:09 GMT, in reply to LostInML in message 34

    Lost in ML,

    you could always try oatcakes instead of porridge - oats are my hobby-horse, as you may know, as they appear to be a food which directly counters many of the major health problems we have in Scotland, which makes me wonder about the serendipitous chance of their being a big part of our trad culture!
    Oats actively help to regulate blood pressure and cholesterol levels, so if you don't enjoy porridge, try other ways.
    Check labels on oatcakes as some have fourteen tons of salt in them, which wouldn't help much...
    You could easily heat up oatcakes to have as a hot breakfast - I make my own quite often and find a freshly-made still-hot oatcake needs nothing at all added, although I do like various toppings as well.

    It's just trying a range of options til you find what works, really...

    I'm another evading BP-meds!

    geeps, good luck with the packing and vaccinations and innoculations, you pin-cushion, you!

    westie, hope things get easier at home, whatever is up.

    f-p, good for you on resisting the chocolate sold so close to work! You're a better pig than I am, Gunga Din...smiley - winkeye

    flut, everyone I know found it really challenging going back to work after sprogging, so go easy on yourself, won't you?

    Stressy time yesterday evening, and I used my "must walk 10k" as an excuse to get out for a bit, and some chocolate happened. I'm cross about the chocolate but what I'm crossest about was using the walking as an excuse to go and get chocolate. If I hadn't wanted chocolate, I wouldn't have bothered going out in such weather. It feels like a morally-bad mis-use of a good thing.

    laura

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    Posted by LostInML (U13646691) on Wednesday, 25th November 2009

    Hi, Laura. Thanks for the advice. Do I just buy oats and eat them as a cereal with skimmed milk (and fruit to make things more palatable!), or do I bake them? Oatcakes sound baked. Your advice would be gratefully received!

    I know all about doing something good and bad in the same breath, so to speak. At least yours wasn't all about chocolate: some exercise DID happen as well! That was happening to me a lot: I would go swimming and then need food as a consolation for all that exercise afterwards! I'm trying now simply to have a cup of coffee as my reward when I get in from the cold, bleak weather!

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    Posted by Miftrefs Laura in Lothian bufily ftitching (U2587870) on Wednesday, 25th November 2009

    Wed, 25 Nov 2009 11:00 GMT, in reply to LostInML in message 37

    Wahey, someone has asked me to talk about oatcakes!!!!

    (Just as the rest of you thought you'd finally got me to quieten down once more about them....)

    Moi? Mention making oatcakes once in a while? Surely ot more than just occasionally... smiley - smiley

    Well... you can buy very good ones. Lots of people here passionately adore Nairn's and my own Fond Papa always has Nairn's mini-oatcakes at work for keeping him going. Waitrose organic ones are also good. Check labels as some are high in salt or sugar or have the dreaded palm-oil...

    I love my home-made ones - there are lots of recipes around. Many involve baking-powder, leaving it to 'rise' (?! It's not a bread!) and a long list of ingredients, a rolling-pin, biscuit-cutter, baking-tray, oven, etc...
    Entirely up to you how you do 'em - different people prefer different things!

    Mine involves a teaspoon of fat, mug of porridge-oats and hot water and nothing else, although you can add anything you like eg chilli powder, paprika, grated cheese, black pepper or herbs, etc., etc.
    Some people prefer not to use lard (I class it as healthy eating in my way, because it makes two big lunches' worth); any fat will do although oils give more fragile results. Try the solid cooking-fats.

    Quantities vary depending on your frying pan... so trial and error a bit. Once you have it sorted, the whole thing takes 2 minutes to get going, leave it alone for 8 or 10 and then that's it, one pan to wash up and that's it.

    If they fall apart into big crumbs then you need a little more fat (or for ultra-healthy ones, just eat the crumbs... er...).
    If they are heavy, taste bland and seem to separate into a top and a bottom with a soggy middle layer, then either your quantity is to much and you need a thinner layer or you didn't cook it quite long enough.

    I have a cast-iron big frying pan and I use a teaspoon of lard and a mug of porridge-oats.

    Heat up the pan. Melt the fat completely. Turn off the heat. Add the porridge-oats and stir lots so the fat is absorbed evenly. Now add a sploosh of hot water - you want enough to make a dough but ot enough to make it runny. Add a little at a time and keep stirring and bashing and thumping it with a fish-slice or similar.
    Once you have a dough, use your fist to splodge it in the middle of the pan and then rock your knuckles over it, kneading it outwards, pushing it to the edges. If you need to, cut some out and throw it away. You want a layer, for a big pan, that feels as thick as maybe a crispbread. If you want very thin ones, use a smaller pan!
    Once splodged, turn the heat back on at 'medium' and just leave it. If it's a bit hot, it may catch slightly underneath but I don't usually have any problem on 'medium'.
    As it cooks, it will shrink away from the edges and that's how I judge it done - well, partly by shrinking and partly by feeling it change when prodded with a forefinger, from doughy to springy. It doesn't go brittle in the middle but stays a little springy.
    Use a knife or fishslice to mark lines across the circle making 6 or 8 sections.
    Take out of the pan and either eat at once or cool on a wire rack. It will keep 3 or 4 days but is best on the same day or the next day, no longer really. I just store mine wrapped in a napkin. They used to store them in the big box they stored the porridge oats in!

    Hope that's clear... it's at least 8 centuries old, and oatcakes sent Scots out all over the world as soldiers, settlers, scientists, lawyers, writers and all sorts, so there's a lot to be said for it smiley - winkeye

    And if we ate more oats now, we'd not have half the troubles we do... sigh...

    laura

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  • Message 39

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    Posted by LostInML (U13646691) on Wednesday, 25th November 2009

    It sounds a bit complicated. I feel a bit of an English wuss. I think I will look at what's out there first, but checking the salt/sugar content does tend to defeat me. I end up making a lot of my own stuff because I feel more in control that way. Maybe I will try this during the Christmas hols. What I don't like my stick-thin husband is sure to enjoy. I find it infuriating that he adores all the stuff that is good for you and actually ENJOYS eating it, whereas I do it under sufferance...!

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  • Message 40

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    Posted by Fire-Pig - proud to wave the protest banner (U12231213) on Wednesday, 25th November 2009

    Firstly a big welcome back to Lost in ML - you are with friends here! Don't be frightened by Laura's oatcakes recipe - it is easy and very good. It does take a bit of getting used to so that the quantities fit your pan and taste! I make them and feel virtuous! I must make some more.

    Laura - it wos that Eye of Mustard wot stopped me buying chocolate at first then ... it did get easier. Lately I have been thinking wondering whether to get some of the high octane stuff in and decided to leave it until Christmas. Me - deciding NOT to buy chocolate !!! My old mind boggles at the idea but the new reincarnated Fire-Pig can do it with that **** Eye looking at me!

    First stage of the accounts came out easily now for the reconciliation side! Onwards and onwards!

    KOKO

    F-P

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  • Message 41

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    Posted by Westsussexbird or Birdy aka Westie (U6316532) on Wednesday, 25th November 2009

    Thanks Pig and Laura ... it's nothing out of the ordinary really, just a wobbly husband who seems to need extra care at the moment ... he is prone to depression (I don't like to say he suffers with depression although in truth he does) so we live from moment to moment, and one of our daughters is living here with us at the moment during a time of transition in her life and I need to make time for her. So I don't feel able to be so involved in one or two threads at this point, and it seems polite to just point this out to you all, rather than just lurk/disappear. :0)

    Porridge though makes wonderful crumble topping which I've mentioned before ...

    HEALTHY CRUMBLE:

    I keep a medium sized frying pan for this.

    You decide on the amounts ..... and of course you can vary the nuts ... pine nuts would be good.

    Olive oil
    Porridge oats
    Macadamia nuts
    flaked almonds .. or grind up almonds with their skin on .. you'll be chopping the macadamia nuts anyhow
    pumpkin seeds
    ground almonds

    Heat some olive oil in a frying pan
    Add porridge oats and gently fry for 3 minutes or until it begins to colour and begins to go golden, turning it with a couple of wooden spatulas all the time.
    Add flaked almonds and chopped macadamia nuts
    and cook for another couple of minutes
    Remove from the heat and stir in pumpkin seeds and ground almonds
    Pour over cooked fruit .... if the fruit is hot the juice will soak into the crumble. Equally nice cold. Works well with a bag of frozen fruit cooked in the microwave.

    We have it with a cuppa for tea sometimes.

    This will keep well in the fridge for 48 hours, but will begin to go furry if kept longer!

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  • Message 42

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    Posted by orange pekoe (U9563764) on Wednesday, 25th November 2009

    Westie, take care xxx

    LostinML, well done on all the good work over the past three weeks - sounds like you're really back on track!

    You asked about oats and cold milk - this is how I eat them, always have, sometimes add in seeds, raspberries (I buy them frozen) or a chopped banananana, but still enjoy them on their own.

    Might be worth a try to see if you like em like that?

    F-P, it feels like you've really cracked the chocolate thing! I now really don't fancy the sweet milk choc at all - but do have a piece or two of The Dark Stuff most days.

    Am currently baking for the PTA Xmas Fair, so we've got white choc chip brownies and shortbread in the oven at the moment...They might get more pieces than actually made it through the 'testing' process last year..!

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  • Message 43

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    Posted by Westsussexbird or Birdy aka Westie (U6316532) on Wednesday, 25th November 2009

    Thanks OP.

    Orf to make roast red pepper and tomato soup now.


    Cheers chums.

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  • Message 44

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    Posted by geepers (U6804393) on Wednesday, 25th November 2009

    Wed, 25 Nov 2009 12:43 GMT, in reply to westie in message 43

    I'm sitting in waiting for DHL to come and pick up my air freight and r e a l l y trying not to panic that they'll say it's too heavy or wrongly packed or not labelled properly or that it'll get lost in transit or that the airline will refuse to take it and will send it back to me after I've moved out and BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH. Shut up, geepers.

    I'll distract myself with scrambled egg in a minute (with a scrambled egg soda, as it happens).

    I do oats and cold milk too - just make my own muesli with oats and whatever else is to hand - some mixture of seeds (always inc pumpkin, cos I love 'em), nuts, dried fruit (hopefully goji berries as they're v good for you but there seems to be a shortage at the minute...) either large and chopped (apricots, for example) or small and just bunged in (berries/raisins/sultanas etc).

    ~~wave~~ to westie.

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  • Message 45

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    Posted by Westsussexbird or Birdy aka Westie (U6316532) on Wednesday, 25th November 2009

    wave to geepers :0))

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  • Message 46

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    Posted by Fire-Pig - proud to wave the protest banner (U12231213) on Wednesday, 25th November 2009

    Geepers stop worrying - I am quite sure it is all properly labelled and will get there etc etc.

    OH has had a health review today, the GP told him to exercise more and to lose weight. As he has actually told me this I think we may be about to make progress. Neither of us had anything to eat with our mid afternoon cuppa (I'm not going to show him up am I?) Normally he sits there guzzling while if I am at home I might nibble. Here's hoping!!!

    KOKO one and all

    F-P

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  • Message 47

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    Posted by geepers (U6804393) on Wednesday, 25th November 2009

    Wed, 25 Nov 2009 16:56 GMT, in reply to Fire-Pig in message 46

    that's quite a good result isn't it, F-P? It needed to be his decision and bloke's are usually quite responsive to being told to do things by Experts (as opposed to wives) aren't they?

    All my worldly goods (well, most of them) have gone. I'm still worried about the labels, but it's out of my hands now. Everything's got two labels on the outside, and either one or two inside, which is the best I could do - couldn't find any proper labels to buy, so have used twice my bodyweight of sellotape on the rigid cases, and have made tie on ones for the holdalls (postcards, covered in clingfilm, covered in sellotape. Blue Peter, much?).

    Friend's coming round tonight and bringing pizzas - it just doesn't improve for me, does it...

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  • Message 48

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    Posted by Miftrefs Laura in Lothian bufily ftitching (U2587870) on Wednesday, 25th November 2009

    Wed, 25 Nov 2009 16:56 GMT, in reply to Fire-Pig in message 46

    Definitely helps if all of a household is eating more healthily, f-p! I don't know HOW you do it, those of you who keep crisps and biscuits and chocolate in the house for your ravenous gannets, I mean teenagers!

    geeps, even if it's all in the wrong boxes, as long as the outsides get there, the inside contents will too.
    I really admire your ability to just pick up and jet off for Parts Unknown with such an attitude of adventure and exciting exploration. You remind me of those undauntable Victorian exploresses who did everything the chaps did exploring the deserts, jungles and mountains but did it in corsets and without showing their ankles...

    LostinMl, many MFCers swear by Nairn's oatcakes if it helps (actually it does sound like some ancient Viking swearing, doesn't it? "By Nairn" thundered the great warrior, "you have stolen my oatcake and now you must pay" and he picked up his blood-axe.... [to be discont.]

    I've just made coconut-ice for the first time in a couple of centuries. Fond Mama hung around interestedly so I gave her the wooden spoon to lick afterwards while I washed up. Hang on, which generation am I and is she?!

    Later I shall cut it into Very Small Bits (the plan is half-inch squares if it will; if that makes it just fall into crumbs, then I'll try 3/4 inch). Then to make some vanilla fudge and cut that up into Very Small Bits. And I shall have a Trad Sweetie Tin and use my little polka-dotty egg-cup as a measure. I think it will hold 3 or possibly 4 if the coconut-ice will go into half-inches.

    Very little walking today as it's been foul weather even by my autumn-adoring standards. Out to lunch [I *heard* that, stoppit!) so a very light supper, probably just a green salad with french dressing.

    laura

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  • Message 49

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    Posted by geepers (U6804393) on Wednesday, 25th November 2009

    Wed, 25 Nov 2009 16:59 GMT, in reply to Laura in Lothian () in message 48

    If you could see the gibbering wreck I am at the moment, Laura, I think you might revise that opinion a little bit. My ankles are covered though.

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  • Message 50

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    Posted by Fire-Pig - proud to wave the protest banner (U12231213) on Wednesday, 25th November 2009

    I can understand the gibbering wreck geepers - after the first time I always had OH with me when packing up. It was very different when I went out as a VSO and doing it all alone. I was in a complete tizzy but it all worked out - as it will for you!

    Yes Laura it is not easy that I have been trying (yes I know!) trying for nearly 9 months to eat healthily but have had Oh hardly changing his shopping habits. I really must not let this opportunity slip by. It is grilled salmon for supper so that's a good meal to have.

    Accounts all done now and I have a whole weight off my shoulders so I can really stand tall again!

    KOKO one and all

    F-P

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