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Message 1.聽
Posted by mamanchauffeuse (U5201740) on Saturday, 19th June 2010
Morning, folks.
Roll up, roll up and suggest who you would like to play a particular part and explain why.
This could be a book, play or TV series you've always wanted to see adapted for the big screen, or you might like to 'correct' the casting of a film that you felt got it just plain wrong. You could even cast your 'ultimate' film of a particular genre - as in fantasy football team style.
Your actors could be alive or dead, former younger selves, or even how you think they might be once they've grown up a bit, if you wish.
Have fun - you never know, maybe someone will end up making one of these films one day.
maman -
Message 2
Posted by mamanchauffeuse (U5201740) on Saturday, 19th June 2010
Sat, 19 Jun 2010 07:48 GMT, in reply to mamanchauffeuse in message 1
Sooo, last weekend we were sitting around the dinner table discussing our perfect casting for the Discworld series. We haven't yet seen Going Postal, not having Sky, but Hogfather was a bit disappointing.
Granny Weatherwax - Eileen Atkins, or possibly Vanessa Redgrave
The Patrician - Alan Rickman in his Die Hard persona crossed with Snape
Carrot - this was a struggle and we weren't really happy with anyone so maybe an unknown. I did propose Rupert Grint as having a face that could be sufficiently gormless and innocent looking when required, but he'd have to grow a tad taller and do some serious working out.
Magrat Garlick - Jane Horrocks
The Bursar - Bill Nighy
Anyhoo, as you can see it's a work in progress so do feel free to jump in and add your own on this or other projected films.
maman -
Message 3
Posted by ali (U14257944) on Saturday, 19th June 2010
Hi maman
Just popping in to say what a great idea. I agree completely so far with your casting of the Discworld series. I'll go off and have a think, then. xxx -
Message 4
Posted by mamanchauffeuse (U5201740) on Saturday, 19th June 2010
Sat, 19 Jun 2010 08:28 GMT, in reply to ali-cat in message 3
Hi there ali-cat - I'm so glad someone found this before I have to pop out. Will be back in later on in the day and will continue thinking of castings.
maman -
Message 5
Posted by Leaping Badger (U3587940) on Saturday, 19th June 2010
Morning, Maman. Thanks for opening up. I'm just bookmarking, and will be back later.
'脰' -
Message 6
Posted by ali (U14257944) on Saturday, 19th June 2010
Nanny Ogg = Miriam Margolyse. Gotta be.
Off out for the day now, but will be back....xxx -
Message 7
Posted by mamanchauffeuse (U5201740) on Saturday, 19th June 2010
Sat, 19 Jun 2010 11:28 GMT, in reply to ali-cat in message 6
Good suggestion - it needs to be someone suitably round with nevertheless a sense of backbone. -
Message 8
Posted by JB on a slippery slope to the thin end ofdabiscuit (U13805036) on Saturday, 19th June 2010
Awwwwww. I thought this was going to be all about tales of Hollywood Babylon, Howard Hughes staring at Jane Russell's blouse in a funny way, etc?
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Message 9
Posted by mamanchauffeuse (U5201740) on Saturday, 19th June 2010
Sat, 19 Jun 2010 11:30 GMT, in reply to JB-on-the-West-Cliff in message 8
JB,
instead it can be about ML Babylon with you staring at......umm maybe not after all. ;卢)
maman
PS While I wait for the flea I still maintain that John Simm would make a far better Jack Parlabane than Jimmy Nesbitt ever did. I thought that after watching him as the Master in Dr Who and then remembered he'd been in State of Play, original version and was even more convinced. Assuming he can do the appropriate accent, of course. -
Message 10
Posted by ARENA (U3567614) on Saturday, 19th June 2010
I always thought that John Laurie would have been my first choice for the Alec Guiness part in 'The Ladykillers'.
I found out recently that Alec G thought so too! -
Message 11
Posted by mamanchauffeuse (U5201740) on Saturday, 19th June 2010
Sat, 19 Jun 2010 11:49 GMT, in reply to Analyst or ARENA crosswords in message 10
That's interesting, funny how sometimes there seems to be someone who is just 'right' for the part.
Sometimes it works out, so the producers of Love Actually got Laura Linney having pegged that character as her 'type' and apparently in Time Bandits they'd written the part of Agamemnon saying 'someone like Sean Connery, but cheaper' but managed to get him in person.
Aha, just remembered that I'd thought Ben Kingsley might be good as Cohen the Barbarian. I always picture him as a sort of Ghandi-type in terms of stature, baldness etc. With fewer teeth though, obviously. -
Message 12
Posted by damsonjamqueen (U2828847) on Saturday, 19th June 2010
Maman - how about Andrew "Freddy" Flintoff for Carrot? I know he's not an actor, but he has always looked like an overgrown schoolboy to me.
Damson -
Message 13
Posted by damsonjamqueen (U2828847) on Saturday, 19th June 2010
First Damson has suggested Ray Winston for Vimes.
Damson -
Message 14
Posted by mamanchauffeuse (U5201740) on Saturday, 19th June 2010
Sat, 19 Jun 2010 12:13 GMT, in reply to damsonjamqueen in message 12
Hmm, not a bad idea at all. Of course we think eldest should be carrot in our house, but that's not something we could hope to persuade anyone else to see unless you happen to have met him.
The sprogs did suggest Emma Watson as Angua because of her hair, but I think there's too much of the small furry, squeaky, animal about her. It needs to be someone you could potentially be very afraid of because she'd rip your throat out.
maman -
Message 15
Posted by Leaping Badger (U3587940) on Saturday, 19th June 2010
For anyone who hasn't visited before, welcome to the ML Classic Film Club. This club is for film fans to discuss their favourite films 鈥 either thematically by type, director, actor, producer, studio, etc - or in some more serendipitous way. Our goal is for informed but informal conversations somewhere slap-bang in the middle between ogling Hollywood stars and dry academic waffle.
We meet on the third Saturday of each month (or as close as possible for those who can't post at weekends) and the topics we have looked at so far have been:
*2006*
September - Preston Sturges F2693944?thread=3478441
October - Those Were the Days: A cinema goer's trip down memory lane F2693944?thread=3573153
November - Almodovar F2693944?thread=3679179
December - Fred & Ginger F2693944?thread=3748217
*2007*
January - Screwball US comedies of the 1930s F2693944?thread=3819522
February - Powell & Pressburger F2693944?thread=3898224
March - Film parodies F2693944?thread=3979158
April - Ealing comedies F2693944?thread=4078333
May - Gainsborough films F2693944?thread=4170064
June - Film noir and neo-noir F2693944?thread=4272114
July - Yasukiro Ozu F2693944?thread=4364674
August - Desert island films F2693944?thread=4490375
September 鈥 Hitchcock triple bill: Early years (1926-44) F2693944?thread=4580949; Glory years (1945-57) F2693944?thread=4604887; Later years (1958-76) F2693944?thread=4627367
October - Life and films of Leslie Howard F2693944?thread=4696607
November - Robert Altman F2693944?thread=4792081
December - Melodramas F2693944?thread=4887407
*2008*
January - Ernst Lubitsch F2693944?thread=4997926
February - Sword and sandal epics F2693944?thread=5105863
March - Shakespeare on film F2693944?thread=5215377
April - Mancunian film studios F2693944?thread=5348478
May - Robert Altman F2693944?thread=5463712
June - Westerns F2693944?thread=5593880
August - DIDs: films that got you into film F2693944?thread=5786988
September - War films: the soldier鈥檚 story F2693944?thread=5907024
October - War films: the civilian鈥檚 story F2693944?thread=5990379
November - Women directors F2693944?thread=6080539
December - Christmas films F2693944?thread=6167516
*2009*
January - Bill Forsyth F2693944?thread=6238296
February - Stanley Kubrick F2693944?thread=6344975
March - Frank Capra F2693944?thread=6422685
April - Films about music F2693944?thread=6506133
May - Courtroom dramas F2693944?thread=6591078
June - Prison dramas F2693944?thread=6692548
July - Mike Leigh F2693944?thread=6787430
August - DIDs: Your 8 Turkeys F2693944?thread=6842924
September - Films of Australia/New Zealand F2693944?thread=6937423
October - Children in film F2693944?thread=7009827
November - 鈥楲ight鈥 sci-fi F2693944?thread=7094035
December - Road movies F2693944?thread=7165030
*2010*
January - Roman Polanski F2693944?thread=7223025
February - Miscastings F2693944?thread=7314996
March - High school movies/School films F2693944?thread=7379027
April - Coming-of-age films F2693944?thread=7444091
May 鈥 Billy Wilder F2693944?thread=7504303
June 鈥 The casting couch F2693944?thread=7579530
Forthcoming attractions:
July - Clint Eastwood (Rusters)
August - DID Films: your 8 favourite children's films (No discussion leader but opened up by the first person in)
September - Charlie Chaplin (Reggie Trentham)
No dates yet:
- Charlie Chaplin (introduced by Reggie Trentham)
- Serious sci-fi (introduced by Peet)
Other suggestions:
- Italian cinema
- Classic horror films
If there is any topic that we haven't yet covered - either one of those above, or something else - which you would like to discuss, please put yourself forward on the rota thread - F2693944?thread=6795121 - especially if you haven't opened a discussion before.
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Message 16
Posted by mamanchauffeuse (U5201740) on Saturday, 19th June 2010
Sat, 19 Jun 2010 12:20 GMT, in reply to Leaping Badger in message 15
Ooh, ta Badgey, I didn't have the links to all the other threads. -
Message 17
Posted by mamanchauffeuse (U5201740) on Saturday, 19th June 2010
Sat, 19 Jun 2010 12:23 GMT, in reply to damsonjamqueen in message 13
Damson,
I always struggle with Vimes. When someone suggests a good actor for him I can usually think of someone else they'd be good for, so for Ray Winstone I always think of him as Mr Tulip.
maman -
Message 18
Posted by mamanchauffeuse (U5201740) on Saturday, 19th June 2010
Sat, 19 Jun 2010 12:29 GMT, in reply to mamanchauffeuse in message 17
BTW, as huge and interesting as the Discworld is, it's not the only thing we can cast. Please feel free to join in with others.
I have to pop back out again now, but will be back later.
maman -
Message 19
Posted by ARENA (U3567614) on Saturday, 19th June 2010
A topical role for the England team.....
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Message 20
Posted by E Yore (U1479700) on Saturday, 19th June 2010
Sat, 19 Jun 2010 17:40 GMT, in reply to Analyst or ARENA crosswords in message 19
Bookmarking. Many thanks, Maman, for opening up. I'm too brain-dead this evening after a day of examining to be able to make any coherent suggestions but yes yes yes to Eileen Atkins as Granny Weatherwax.
The only person who shouls play Rincewind is Rhys Ifans (as he was in 'Notting Hill').
Whoever plays Vimes ought to be a shoe-in for Marcus Didius Falco, as well. -
Message 21
Posted by mamanchauffeuse (U5201740) on Saturday, 19th June 2010
Sat, 19 Jun 2010 19:31 GMT, in reply to E Yore in message 20
The only person who shouls play Rincewind is Rhys Ifans (as he was in 'Notting Hill').聽
Dunno, consensus of opinion here at lunch time was that Mackenzie Crook (Pirate with wooden eye) would make a good Rincewind. I thought Lee Arenburg (his comedy double in those films) would make a good Corp Nobby Nobbs, but have been told he's nowhere near skinny enough.
Other suggestions:
CMOT Dibbler - Leonard Rossiter
The Librarian - Andy Serkis
Twoflower - Jackie Chan
maman -
Message 22
Posted by Rusters (U11225963) on Sunday, 20th June 2010
Hmmm. This is more difficult than I thought. My problem is that whenever I think about casting (or re-casting) films, most of the actors I鈥檇 choose are long-dead, e.g., Cary Grant and Joan Crawford.
I鈥檝e spent many a frustrated hour wondering who I鈥檇 cast in a remake of 鈥淕one With the Wind鈥, but can鈥檛 think of anyone would who could carry if off the way Clarke Gable and Vivien Leigh did. (The least said about Leslie Howard the better, btw.)
George Clooney as Rhett Butler? He is the same physical type as Gable, and about the right age too. He has the same rogueish charm, but I am not sure he has the necessary ruthless edge. When it comes to Scarlett I find it even more difficult. The actor (though actress seems more fitting in this context) doesn鈥檛 have to be 鈥 indeed, shouldn鈥檛 be 鈥 someone conventionally beautiful, but she would have to have a feline quality.
I find it easier to recast people in television dramas and series. For instance, good actor though he is, Derek Jacobi was totally wrong, imo, as Cadfael. Jacobi played Cadfael too ecucated, too polished and (worse) too sharp-tongued and impatient for my liking. I鈥檇 have chosen Philip Madoc, who did a more rough-hewn but mellow Cadfael in the 主播大秀 radio production.
Rusty -
Message 23
Posted by man-in-the-moon (U3655413) on Sunday, 20th June 2010
I've been thinking about a remake(or should that be a "re-imaginging? of Sunset Boulevard(I'm sure there was talk of a remake at the time of the musical) but following in Gloria Swanson ,William Holden and Erich von Stroheim footsteps it is difficult to find anyone who could play these roles.Any ideas?
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Message 24
Posted by Rusters (U11225963) on Sunday, 20th June 2010
I saw 'Sunset Boulevard' for the first time just a few weeks ago, man-in-the-moon. I don't know about the men, but I reckon Glenn Close would make a great Norma Desmond.
Rusty -
Message 25
Posted by E Yore (U1479700) on Sunday, 20th June 2010
Sun, 20 Jun 2010 19:00 GMT, in reply to man-in-the-moon in message 23
Some films should not be remade and Sunset Bld. is one of them. But, Lauren Bacall in the Gloria Swanson role, don't you think?
My problem with this month's theme is that I can be critical about casting with hindsight, once a film has been made, but like Rusty, the actors I love are mainly dead, so my ideal cast in a remake would have 150 yr olds acting beyond the grave with 40 yr olds. And I'm not sure I want to cast my favourite books ...
Clooney for Rhett Butler is all wrong - no edge and too much humour. But I can just about see Clooney as Sam Vimes ... -
Message 26
Posted by man-in-the-moon (U3655413) on Sunday, 20th June 2010
I do agree that SB shouldn't really be remade but when did that ever stop Hollywood? Lauren Bacall and Glenn Close are possibles.
There will certainly never be another Joan,Bette Clark,Cary,Gary,Marlene etc etc when stars were stars and possessed some mystique. -
Message 27
Posted by irene (U14262395) on Monday, 21st June 2010
thats interesting, analyst, as i read recently that when first offered the role of the prof in 'the lady killers', alec guiness's response was 'but you want alistair sim, dear boy, surely'!
there must have been in a mix up in the casting office when dennis quaid got the part of jerry lee lewis in 'great balls of fire' as i always thought another dennis ie hopper would make an excellent jll.
having both read 'schindlers ark' o/h and i pondered on who we could cast as mr.s. never would have come up with liam neeson in a month of sundays. -
Message 28
Posted by Rusters (U11225963) on Monday, 21st June 2010
Wonder if Jude Law would be a good Rhett. Can't think of a sufficiently good Scarlett, but my fear would be that Keira Knightley would get the part. Sigh. I wondered for a moment if a young Bacall would make a good Scarlett, but I don't think so - she has/had too modern a look. Has she ever been in a historical drama? Oh, yes, she was an indifferent Western when she was older. Doesn't count imo.
Don't you think Liam Neeson was a good Schindler though, irene? Mind you, I thought he was sort of eclipsed by Ralph Fiennes and Ben Kingsley. Actually I think Neeson might have been good in the Fiennes role, though not sure if Fiennes would have made a good Schindler.
Rusty -
Message 29
Posted by Leaping Badger (U3587940) on Monday, 21st June 2010
In reply to Rusters in message 28
I'm not sure that Jude Law would be a good anything.
'脰' -
Message 30
Posted by mamanchauffeuse (U5201740) on Tuesday, 22nd June 2010
Tue, 22 Jun 2010 20:10 GMT, in reply to Leaping Badger in message 29
Ahem, just back on-line after being without internet since the weekend.
There's no need to recast an old fave film if you like the old casting - that wasn't the purpose of the exercise - but if there was one character you felt grated and not cast properly now is your chance to speak up and say who you'd prefer (BTW, totally agree that Derek Jacobi - great as he is on other stuff - is simply the Wrong Man for Br Cadfael)
You choice can be alive or dead, now or at the time of the film. I've nominated Leonard Rossiter for CMOT after all.
BTW, what do folks think of Laurence Fox for Carrot?
maman -
Message 31
Posted by E Yore (U1479700) on Wednesday, 23rd June 2010
Wed, 23 Jun 2010 06:41 GMT, in reply to mamanchauffeuse in message 30
Actually, maman, the difficulties I've had thinking about casting since you opened this month's thread, has actually given me a great deal more respect for casting directors - it isn't anywhere as easy as it seems with hindsight to judge good or bad casting before the fact.
Not Laurence Fox for Carrot - too narrow a face, too weedy a physique. In fact, I think a younger Tim Bentinck (David Archer) might have been good. Otherwise, Carrot is so perfect, he really needs to be computer-generated or a robot. What about Kevin Whately for Vimes, David Jason for Colon, and Lynsey Baxter for Lady Margolata? The only person who can play Lady Sybil is a young Penelope Keith.
Going back to LoTR - James Wilby for Faramir. -
Message 32
Posted by ali (U14257944) on Wednesday, 23rd June 2010
Hi E. Yore
David Jason is a bit old for Colon now, though, don't you think. Although I do agree he would've been perfect 15 or so years ago.
Kevin Whateley as Vimes? Yes, that could work nicely. I like that.
I keep thinking that Nicholas Lyndhurst has a role somewhere. Not sure where. Maybe the Patrician? Or maybe an alternative suggestion for Vimes.
xx -
Message 33
Posted by E Yore (U1479700) on Wednesday, 23rd June 2010
Wed, 23 Jun 2010 07:19 GMT, in reply to ali-cat in message 32
Morning ali!
I can see Lyndhurst as the head of the Assassin's Guild, actually. Too big to be the Patrician. A young Charles Dance (thin & mean) would have been a perfect Patrician, not sure about the present CD. I'm still in shock from David Jason as Rincewind in Colour of Magic. Or Twoflower being transformed into an American.
Thinking about it, Laurence Fox would be the perfect Patrician, don't you agree? -
Message 34
Posted by Binky (U4657795) on Wednesday, 23rd June 2010
Wed, 23 Jun 2010 10:30 GMT, in reply to E Yore in message 33
can't join in here as I know nothing of Discworld, but speaking of Ben Kingsley as a scary vicious character, you /must/ see 'Sexy Beast'. I defy anyone not to be quaking when Ben starts to 'kick off' as the youngsters say.
I like the idea of Alaistair Sim in The Ladykillers - he had the right amount of whimsy that role called for, but Alec is brilliant in his own way, so no complaints from me.
Jude Law is the new Terence Stamp, so he could be cast in a remake of 'Billy Budd' which Mr Stamp handled perfectly (imo)but it would be interesting to see JL have a go. I thought he was very acceptable as Dicky Greenleaf so he /can/ act but is hampered by his good looks.
I agree Glenn Close for Norma Desmond - she'd chew the scenery up which is what you need for that character. The Eric von Stroheim character would be Ben Kingsley again. -
Message 35
Posted by Rusters (U11225963) on Wednesday, 23rd June 2010
Binky, I was just about to reply to Badge that I thought Jude Law was excellent in 'The Talented Mr Ripley'. In fact, I thought he would have made just as good a Ripley as he was as Greenleaf. Haven't seen him in much else - oh, as a Russian sniper in a WWII film, but he was nothing to write home about.
I think he probably would have made a good Billy Budd when he was younger, but not at the age he is now.
I love the Georgette Heyer regency romances and would love to see them dramatised, but I know and see the characters so well I'd find them very difficult to cast. Among the actors I am pretty sure I would cast in a Heyer adaptation would be Alan Rickman and Ioan Grufford. They can act and they have faces that lend themselves to period stuff. Women, though - much more difficult.
Can't think of anyone worthy of playing The Grand Sophy.
Rusty -
Message 36
Posted by Binky (U4657795) on Wednesday, 23rd June 2010
Wed, 23 Jun 2010 11:03 GMT, in reply to Rusters in message 35
if there was a remake of 'Rebecca' I'd have Eileen Atkins as Mrs Danvers, Toby Stephens as Max.
The difficulty is casting Rebecca, who should be young and naive, but this would be another role that Kiera would be (wrongly)offered. It's something the young Kate Winslet could have done, or the young Rosamund Pike who had the right air of fragility. -
Message 37
Posted by Rusters (U11225963) on Wednesday, 23rd June 2010
The young Rosalind Pike - yes. Please, please, please not the biquitous Keira. Or Billie Piper.
I'd like Toby Stephens in anything, me.
Rusty -
Message 38
Posted by ali (U14257944) on Wednesday, 23rd June 2010
E.Yore - Actually, yes. Nicholas Lyndhurst as Head of the Assassins Guild would be good casting. Glad we've got him sorted, then.
And Laurence Fox - an excellent Patrician. He could look down his long nose beautifully.
xx -
Message 39
Posted by ali (U14257944) on Wednesday, 23rd June 2010
Hi Rusty
Oh yes, Toby Stephens (pause for long appreciation of said Toby). And I like Billie Piper but she is sort of omnipresent at the moment.
This is fun, isn't it? It helps me sleep now, to go through Discworld particularly, and do a bit of casting.
xx -
Message 40
Posted by Binky (U4657795) on Wednesday, 23rd June 2010
Wed, 23 Jun 2010 11:25 GMT, in reply to ali-cat in message 39
I've been thinking about actors who have been miscast or under-used, and I've decided that when we remake 'Gone With the Wind',Timothy Dalton would be an excellent Rhett Butler.
He can definately act (RSC trained I believe) and when younger was outrageously handsome. He could be the correct mix of twinkly humour/sexy tease with Scarlett, and dashing action man during the Civil War bits. -
Message 41
Posted by Rusters (U11225963) on Wednesday, 23rd June 2010
Hmm, Ali. When I can't sleep, one of the things I do is to pretend I'm trying to bring a non-Archer bod up to speed with the background, characters and important plots, past and present. Don't think I've ever got up to when Shula and co grow up before falling asleep.
I suppose I could go one step further and try and cast TA for a film. Some of the actors would keep their parts for a film, actually.
Rusty -
Message 42
Posted by E Yore (U1479700) on Wednesday, 23rd June 2010
Wed, 23 Jun 2010 11:39 GMT, in reply to Binky in message 40
I've been thinking about actors who have been miscast or under-used, and I've decided that when we remake 'Gone With the Wind',Timothy Dalton would be an excellent Rhett Butler.
He can definately act (RSC trained I believe) and when younger was outrageously handsome. He could be the correct mix of twinkly humour/sexy tease with Scarlett, and dashing action man during the Civil War bits.聽
Yes!
I thought of him as I was working on something urgent (but as there were other colleagues in my office, I couldn't just abandon them and post - and then it slipped my mind.) I fell for him when I saw 'Lion in Winter' - Philip was so gorgeous.
Dalton could also be a good Damarel for 'Venetia'. Colin Firth for Sir Gareth in 'Sprig Muslin'. I'd love to see 'Cotillion' filmed but would dread it being done badly.
Joe Fiennes couldn't be a worse Ashley Wilkes than Leslie Howard, could he? -
Message 43
Posted by Leaping Badger (U3587940) on Wednesday, 23rd June 2010
I've been following this thread as it's been added to, but not knowing what to add to it. I care not a jot for the Terry Pratchett books, so that part of the discussion completely sails by me, and I can't really think what to say about imaginary castings. Which is interesting, as I often, while reading a book, 'screen' it in my mind - ie imagine how it could be filmed, whether I think it would work in a cinematic medium, and how difficult passages could be dealt with. I sometimes cast it as well, although I admit that's something that I think of much less. It's more a case of 'do I think this could be made into a good film, and how would I go about it?' - a mixture of adapting the novel for screen, and imagining particular settings and shots.
Some writers lend themselves more to this than others. One book that comes to mind, which I thought was a superb book and which I was imagining filming all the way through reading it was James Ellroy's American Tabloid. I did cast it as well - working out who would be the perfect Pete Bondurant was interesting - but I can't for the life of me remember who I thought of for the various parts. A lot of his writing is very filmic in a way - based on hardboiled detective fiction of the 30s and 40s and the film (usually noir) adaptations of these - but his books work on digression and are rambling in a way that can't really work on screen. The adaptation of LA Confidential is in my mind a tour de force of how to adapt novels to the screen - only the bare bones of the plot and, essentially, the characters, survived, and what was put on screen worked brilliantly.
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Message 44
Posted by Rusters (U11225963) on Wednesday, 23rd June 2010
Timothy Dalton was Rhett Butler in the made for television "Scarlett". I only watched a bit of it at the time, mostly because I don't like Joanne Whalley anyway, and she really wasn't Scarlett for me. I think "Scarlett" was based on a sequel to GWTW that I tried to read.
Rusty -
Message 45
Posted by Binky (U4657795) on Wednesday, 23rd June 2010
Wed, 23 Jun 2010 13:29 GMT, in reply to Rusters in message 44
That is toooooo weird. I didn't even know the TV version existed, let alone that TD played RB.
Joe Fiennes is too vigorous to play Ashley - we need an effete weed for that. The man who played the doctor in 'Cranford' would be OK. -
Message 46
Posted by E Yore (U1479700) on Wednesday, 23rd June 2010
Wed, 23 Jun 2010 14:30 GMT, in reply to Binky in message 45
Joe Fiennes is too vigorous to play Ashley - we need an effete weed for that.聽
Nooooo! Ashley in the book isn't an effete weed at all, but a true Southern gentleman who is too gentlemanly to tell the manipulative Scarlett where to get off. The weedy bit was added to the character by Leslie Howard. -
Message 47
Posted by mamanchauffeuse (U5201740) on Friday, 25th June 2010
Fri, 25 Jun 2010 08:16 GMT, in reply to E Yore in message 31
too narrow a face, too weedy a physique.聽
Well, I was thinking he'd have to bulk up a lot, but agree about the face. But he does have a way of looking at Lewis that reminds me of Carrot.
Not sure Kevin Whately would be down and dirty enough for Vimes. On that point Ray Winston is better, but he's just too big and physical. Vimes needs to look out of shape but you need to believe he'd give someone a quick kicking on the way to the cells if he thought they deserved it. Not quite sure I see Kevin doing that, he always seems a bit of a softie. He also needs to look seriously raddled.
Watching Guy Richie's version of Sherlock Holmes I did wonder about Robert Downey Jr (Holmes as bare-knuckle fighter - who knew?) but he'd need to be able to get the voice right.
David Jason for Colon - would never have thought of that in a million years, but now you mention it I think you could be right.
the difficulties I've had thinking about casting since you opened this month's thread, has actually given me a great deal more respect for casting directors - it isn't anywhere as easy as it seems with hindsight to judge good or bad casting before the fact.聽
Yup. Not as easy as it looks. It's not just about getting the right person for the part, it's also about getting key partnerships right, they have to go well together.
maman -
Message 48
Posted by ali (U14257944) on Friday, 25th June 2010
Hi Rusters
I suppose I could go one step further and try and cast TA for a film. Some of the actors would keep their parts for a film, actually. 聽
Told this to OH and he said how about Gordon Brown for Joe Grundy. "Eeeh Clarrie, how about that there fiscal policy then....."
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Message 49
Posted by mamanchauffeuse (U5201740) on Friday, 25th June 2010
Fri, 25 Jun 2010 08:21 GMT, in reply to ali-cat in message 48
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Message 50
Posted by JoleBlon (U12091094) on Saturday, 26th June 2010
What about Paul Bettany for Captain Carrot?
He'd have to do the extra extra body-building, granted, but he has the most exquisite face, with the fine blue eyes and complexion to suit Carrot, this best of redheaded men. A convincing actor too, who could convey the necessary innocence and good-natured but self-evident leadership qualities, I think.
I can't get beyond Rowan Atkinson's Edmund Blackadder (part 2, Elizabethan) when thinking of Vetinari. He's how Vetinari looks in my mind's eye.
Perhaps husband and wife Jim Carter and Imelda Staunton would be a convincing Vimes and Sybil? They'd make a good team.
Will take a bit more pondering (Stibbons!) to think of other potential matches. Better than footie, for sure.
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