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Message 1.Â
Posted by Nomadnomore - XNo - Quiz Queen (U3180380) on Sunday, 1st August 2010
Hello, welcome to the August edition of the dog club.
Open to all dog owners, people who like dogs and anyone else who would like to discuss anything doggy.
We discuss training (or lack of), illnesses (but not to the exclusion of veterinary advice), their tricks, foibles and the general fun of dogs.
Poo usually features on page one of each month's thread so I thought I'd mention it in the OP to get it over with. -
Message 2
Posted by Nomadnomore - XNo - Quiz Queen (U3180380) on Sunday, 1st August 2010
Link to the July thread
I think the last two dialogues were about ac's new puppy and kennels vs lodgerdogs.
I do wish I could leave Rocky somewhere as a lodger dog but he is so manic with strangers. He might get on with the household but if anyone came to the door they would have to be certain to shut him away and whilst he gets along with any dog some of them have been known to have a go at him for some reason. I'm pretty certain he wouldn't be accepted as a lodgerdog.
We do put him in kennels but he was very reluctant to be handed over last time. We also have to be able to go away.
When I had Tessa the golden retriever (RIP) when I earned serious money (and before I found the blue peter vet's sister who had her as a lodgerdog) I used house sitters. That was very expensive but amazing, we came back to a daily diary of everything Tessa had done and eaten, plus the garden and house were cleaned and tidied. -
Message 3
Posted by al-in-a-field (U3325483) on Sunday, 1st August 2010
wave
just book-marking -
Message 4
Posted by What larks (U14260755) on Monday, 2nd August 2010
Friend and puppy are here again! He (the puppy) is a fearless little thing and we are all -including our brder collie - having problems finding some way to discipline him. Puppy is unmoved by scoldings and banishment; an innovative pup will find some entertainment wherever he is, it seems.
He must have been taught Kipling's "If" at his mother's breast, the bits that go:
"If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster
And treat those two impostors just the same;"
and again
"if neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you,
If all men count with you, but none too much"
He hasn't yet reached the "sixty seconds worth of distance run", but give him a chance! -
Message 5
Posted by posh_scouse_pinnedwithpride (U2514024) on Monday, 2nd August 2010
[I do wish I could leave Rocky somewhere as a lodger dog but he is so manic with strangers. He might get on with the household but if anyone came to the door they would have to be certain to shut him away and whilst he gets along with any dog some of them have been known to have a go at him for some reason. I'm pretty certain he wouldn't be accepted as a lodgerdog.]
um, I go to ex Ma in laws to dog sit her 4 and take Paddydog who is a changed soul when he stays and happily accepts being 2nd to bottom dog. Would nevveravethunk it.
Hey, I could come and Rockysit. -
Message 6
Posted by Campbell in Farewell Clogs (U14226916) on Monday, 2nd August 2010
(whispering) Dogs lie to their owners...
I get told all sorts of stuff about the behaviour of dogs who come to stay with me and a great deal of it is just the dogs having a laugh. As soon as they're away from the owner they are often totally different creatures. Even Psychocollie is a wee angel with me despite much frantic rolling of his weird blue eye and hiding behind the owner when I go to pick him up. As soon as he's in the Wee Blue Van he's 'my' dog and all panic is over.
In Dutch there is a phrase (which I am desperately trying to adequately translate here...) eh, 'Strange Eyes Persuade' is the jist of it. When a stranger gives a command it is oh-so-different from when the owner gives it. It's much the same with impossibly stroppy teenage humans - they often turn into delightful creatures with people-who-aren't-their-parents.
Talking of having a laugh - I just watched the utube link from the last page of the July thread. Dog playing dead - very funny.
This is the illustrated version of the disappearing dog story from last week, complete with the 2 Danes and a very cute pic of the returned runaway in deep sleep on his return. -
Message 7
Posted by What larks (U14260755) on Monday, 2nd August 2010
Campbell in Clogs
Our dog minder told us all sorts of things about our border collie we didn't know about! Apparently he hates to see other dogs playing, and tries to break up their games. He will go to his bed if sent, but follows the miscreants round the room with his eyes until he can't bear it any more and will leap up to tell them that is enough of that!
But of course with us it is just him, or perhaps one other, so I could truthfully say "oh, he never does that at home!" -
Message 8
Posted by al-in-a-field (U3325483) on Monday, 2nd August 2010
or maybe he is just joining in? -
Message 9
Posted by Campbell in Farewell Clogs (U14226916) on Monday, 2nd August 2010
hahaha, a bossy borderliner, yep, that sounds about right. Psychocollie does Very Hard Stares at other dogs he thinks are behaving oddly (he finds most things in life odd...)
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Message 10
Posted by Sad Border Collie (U2036041) on Monday, 2nd August 2010
Yes, different behaviour with others!
Drives me maaaad.
I take this pulling, panting, deaf (when she chooses) beautiful dog to class.
The teacher looks at her and she turns into a devoted, obedient, attentive, close heeling while looking up (but still beautiful) dog.
Thus showing everyone it's me who is the problem!
She's right of course
But it's still kennels on Wednesday. At least she can't drive - yet.
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Message 11
Posted by dondy (U3463640) on Monday, 2nd August 2010
Lodgerdog horror stories (well not strictly a lodgerdog, but being walked by someone other than the owner):
That is one lucky dog !
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Message 12
Posted by PinaGrigio (U11141735) on Monday, 2nd August 2010
amazing. as you say, one very lucky dog. The lady who looks after the Hound when parents are unavailable has a questionnaire asking whether he is allowed off lead on walks and we've always played it safe and said no. Funny, even though he has to be the only dog in the house at home he fits in well with the pack at the lodger house, so you never know, Xno, Rocky might be completely different away from his home turf
love the clip, Hazel. I've seen it before but it still makes me laugh! -
Message 13
Posted by Lady Macbeϯh - not without mustard (U550479) on Monday, 2nd August 2010
Mon, 02 Aug 2010 22:21 GMT, in reply to PinaGrigio in message 12
I think junior dog has been attacked by a tick - I need daylight to be sure. Certainly not there now, but the lump has a dark centre. If it is a tick bite, do I need to treat it with anything?
If you are posting from US we do not have heartworm in the UK. -
Message 14
Posted by dB (U14258362) on Tuesday, 3rd August 2010
"...but the lump has a dark centre" perhaps it´s the head that is still in, and no, as far as I know there´s nothing to be done after the tick has done its evil stuff. Bear in mind that any unexplained limping or high temperatures even months on could have a connection with the bite, then a blood test is needed to ascertain what disease the tick has transferred. Prevention is always wise.
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Message 15
Posted by Campbell in Farewell Clogs (U14226916) on Tuesday, 3rd August 2010
A lump with a dark centre sounds like it could indeed be a tick's head. I've never actually seen this before without the attached tick but I suppose it is possible that he's scratched the tick off himself and left the head. It should really be removed (I have wee curved and pointed surgical razor blades in the first aid box for such purposes) to prevent infection but ach, if you hadn't have spotted it it would have rotted out eventually anyway. It's like a tiny spot of pus that will form round the head till it works itself loose. To prevent this irritation you can cut it out and disinfect the tiny wound.
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Message 16
Posted by Campbell in Farewell Clogs (U14226916) on Tuesday, 3rd August 2010
Lodgerdog is having a tough week - we got attacked by 3 (luckily fairly wimpy) Rottweilers yesterday. No lasting damage but my throat, which was just starting to recover its hoarseness after Friday's lost-dog-and-much-related-shouting incident has now been yelled into yet another level of whisky-soaked-50-fags-a-day rawness. -
Message 17
Posted by al-in-a-field (U3325483) on Tuesday, 3rd August 2010
you should lay off the whiskey and those fags, CinC!
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Message 18
Posted by al-in-a-field (U3325483) on Tuesday, 3rd August 2010
glad to see it seems that the farmers took it seriously and that the "fence" is being fixed. And lucky that they were a bit "crap".
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Message 19
Posted by PinaGrigio (U11141735) on Tuesday, 3rd August 2010
quite, al. Glad you're ok now, C-i-C, but sounds like a horrid experience. MIL had a run in with a loose Rottweiler a couple of months ago while she was out walking and she really, really doesn't like dogs (she tolerates the hound bravely, bless her) and was v scared by it, so sympathies to you & lodgerdog.
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Message 20
Posted by Small boy in third row (U2247664) on Wednesday, 4th August 2010
Wed, 04 Aug 2010 10:19 GMT, in reply to PinaGrigio in message 19
Hi all. I've just started an "Animal Portrait" thread in TVH that is designed to act as a Mustardland animal photo album. You are cordially invited to post photos of your dogs:
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Message 21
Posted by Dapply (U2437462) on Wednesday, 4th August 2010
Wed, 04 Aug 2010 11:47 GMT, in reply to Rachel in message 20
I have just put a picture in there of Seren, but I can't look at it too long as I start to cry. -
Message 22
Posted by Small boy in third row (U2247664) on Wednesday, 4th August 2010
Wed, 04 Aug 2010 11:56 GMT, in reply to Dapply in message 21
She's gorgeous, Dapply. So sorry to hear she died in June, you must really miss her. -
Message 23
Posted by PinaGrigio (U11141735) on Wednesday, 4th August 2010
Oh Dapply, lovely pic. What a beautiful girl.
Great idea, Rachel. Will hunt out pics of the Hound. -
Message 24
Posted by al-in-a-field (U3325483) on Wednesday, 4th August 2010
dapply, what a lovely, lovely pic. Fair brought a tear to my eye.
Al... -
Message 25
Posted by countrypug (U9227943) on Wednesday, 4th August 2010
Lovely pics so far. Bookmarking really, all well with the Pug household pooches, enjoying not quite so hot weather so longer walks.
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Message 26
Posted by PinaGrigio (U11141735) on Thursday, 5th August 2010
it's Monty's 5th birthday today so we have brought a variety of treats, bones, toys and......dried tripe (woohoo) for everyone to share. and cake for humans.
(I did think of providing some animal poo so that everyone was really dressed up but then, erm, we didn't.)
pics of him are now on the portrait thread for those who haven't seen him already. -
Message 27
Posted by Hesperus (U14543047) on Thursday, 5th August 2010
Its here again, - our walks take twice as long as the two of them get the fruit off the low brambles. They have feasted on the wild strawberries in the garden for the last few weeks. Anyone else's dogs have the same tastes?
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Message 28
Posted by Dapply (U2437462) on Thursday, 5th August 2010
Thu, 05 Aug 2010 14:13 GMT, in reply to Hesperus in message 27
Oscar used to love brambles and picked them off the bush very delicately. He also loved rosehips.
Desti loved hazel nuts and would stand in the garden for ages waiting for them to fall off the trees. She would look very shocked if one dared to fall on her head!
Mind you yesterday a hazel nut fell on my head, or so I thought, looked up to see a squirrel throwing them! Cheeky little so and so, just cos Seren isn't around to keep order........ -
Message 29
Posted by Dapply (U2437462) on Thursday, 5th August 2010
Thu, 05 Aug 2010 14:18 GMT, in reply to PinaGrigio in message 26
t's Monty's 5th birthday todayÂ
Happy birthday Monty, have a nice day wiv lotsa cuddles. -
Message 30
Posted by dondy (U3463640) on Thursday, 5th August 2010
Happy birthday Monty (he looks v lovely in the picture thread BTW).
Will have to wait to see if Lily Westie likes to eat blackberries etc. She is quite partial to the herbs growing outside the back door...
She also managed to escape from the small garden into the big garden this week (trying to get to a visiting dog who is a bit nervy around puppies) by squeezing under the fence, in spite of added wire netting. Have had to add a board and some bricks to weigh down the wire, but the next thing will be digging underneath, I suspect.
On the plus side, she seems to have got the hang of the house training thing all of a sudden (hurrah). (I think she comes in here at night and reads whay I post on this thread).
dondy
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Message 31
Posted by Josey (U1242413) on Thursday, 5th August 2010
Just a question. My boy is 13 and an entire dog. He's waited all his life for an "offer" if you know what I mean, and today someone said she'd love him to father pups with her bitch. I don't think a dog would still be potent at his age (and besides his back legs are a bit too weak, now, to mount). But I started wondering; *hypothetically* only, does anyone use AI with dogs and is there an upper age limit for mating? I feel a bit sad as I would have loved him to be a dad.
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Message 32
Posted by Alejandrita (U2222432) on Thursday, 5th August 2010
Thu, 05 Aug 2010 16:35 GMT, in reply to Josey in message 31
Hello all, I've taken ages to get in here! Just bookmarking really. V hot here at the moment so Sombra was thrilled to get a large wedge of cool (and slightly soggy) watermelon this afternoon. She is now sleeping it off in the shade under the fig tree with a slobbery grin on her face. -
Message 33
Posted by Dapply (U2437462) on Thursday, 5th August 2010
Thu, 05 Aug 2010 17:53 GMT, in reply to Josey in message 31
I feel a bit sad as I would have loved him to be a dad.Â
Whoa there!
I could be at the risk of causing offence here. Please don't put your human emotions onto a dog, they are not like us at all, and have no regrets about not being a daddy.
13 is far too old for ANY dog to sire a litter whether they be pedigree or crossbreed. If your dog is pedigree and you want to use him at stud, the Kennel Club most certainly will not allow the litter to be registered. If however you are just doing it "to see what happens" and "for fun" then think very very carefully about the consequences of unwanted puppies. Yes they are so cute but you have to find good homes for them or failing that leave the Dog charities or (shudder) the RSPCA to pick up the pieces.
You might "only" be the stud dog's owner but you still carry a responsibility for puppies born.
And yes I have known dog's sperm to be exported/imported and used in AI. -
Message 34
Posted by Shy (U14227333) on Thursday, 5th August 2010
Thu, 05 Aug 2010 19:02 GMT, in reply to dondy b in message 30
Will have to wait to see if Lily Westie likes to eat blackberries etc.Â
If she does, watch out for the purple poo. It can be quite alarming if you're not expecting it! -
Message 35
Posted by Shy (U14227333) on Thursday, 5th August 2010
Thu, 05 Aug 2010 19:06 GMT, in reply to Josey in message 31
I feel a bit sad as I would have loved him toÂ
I understand where you're coming from there, Josey. Now my old boy is gone I so wish he had sired at least one litter, and there was still a bit of him here. Even if I hadn't kept one I might have seen them from time too time, or been able to buy a descendent.
He'd have been just a tiny bit less totally gone then. -
Message 36
Posted by Josey (U1242413) on Thursday, 5th August 2010
Dapply, I was only speculating - it's never something I seriously contemplated, believe me. When I say "I would have loved him to be a dad" it was not for him but a perhaps misplaced dream I once had that to have his progeny would have been lovely. Sorry to offend you.
He's no show dog, a very mixed lurcher type in fact, and I disapprove strongly of people breeding for "fun"; I could have bred from him and my girl lurcher before she was spayed (she came to me as an adult rescue) but as you say. My question was *hypothetical*, as I said in my post. We were wondering simply if dogs retained their potency as they got older and whether dog breeders use AI. Hypothetical, pure and simple. I also said in my post that his hind legs are a bit too weak enough to allow him to mate. -
Message 37
Posted by Josey (U1242413) on Thursday, 5th August 2010
You've expressed it perfectly, Shy.
When I look at my dear old friend I think how it would be if in the future there was a bit of him still around. -
Message 38
Posted by dondy (U3463640) on Thursday, 5th August 2010
If she does, watch out for the purple poo. It can be quite alarming if you're not expecting it! Â
Oo-err, hadn't thought of that, Shy...
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Message 39
Posted by mistresslucy (U9471573) on Friday, 6th August 2010
Not only poo but purple poo!!!! Impressive ;o) Lucy
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Message 40
Posted by What larks (U14260755) on Friday, 6th August 2010
Yes, I know where Josey is coming from too. Smeone once expressed disappointment that my chap was neutered. But I know nothing about his ancestry so wouldn't have been comfortable about him breeding, and after a moment's reflection the bitch owner agreed!
Our chap still isn't right. He is sneezing and won't run in flyball; all of a sudden he has become very wary about close proximity to other dogs. It started with him having trouble eating dried food; this is no longer a problem. He is also okay in other respects; we have started agility and he is clearly enjoying that, especially climbing the "A" frame, which he sneaks into a course even when it isn't meant to be there!
The vet hadn't a clue three weeks ago, and suggested a sore throat (which he couldn't see into without sedation). Since then dog has developed sores on his nose and mouth which heal, but then reappear. We wondered about wasp stings, or possibly scratches from our friend's puppy, but the problem began before the puppy visited so that can't account for everything. The flyball trainer thought it might be the noise that is bothering him (a lot of cheering and shouting goes on) but I'm not sure that explains the cause; it has never worried him in the past.
Any suggestions gratefully received. He obviously isn't "ill ill", but his behaviour change is a little odd. -
Message 41
Posted by Dapply (U2437462) on Friday, 6th August 2010
Fri, 06 Aug 2010 07:04 GMT, in reply to skylark in message 40
Since then dog has developed sores on his nose and mouth which heal, but then reappear.Â
Could it be stress?
Friends of ours, (they bred Seren) have a dog who gets exzema(sp) when he is stressed. We noticed it when we were holidaying with them a few years ago as the "Lady of the House" can be quite highly strung and can get annoyed over little things. Mr D and I noticed that when she was cross and wound up this dog came out in spotty rashes . And no pun intended here.
I am not saying that you get cross and so on but if he gets wound up about flyball and being near to other dogs it could show in an allergic reaction like sneezing and getting worried being near to other dogs. It sounds like he loves agility cos no other dogs are near him. -
Message 42
Posted by Campbell in Farewell Clogs (U14226916) on Friday, 6th August 2010
Sorry to hear that your flyball hero is off-form skylark. Symptoms sound a bit vague so can't be of any help. It might be handy to keep a diary of the symptoms as it's easy to forget what happened when. It'll be a help to your vet if further treatment proves necessary. Though of course hopefully it'll clear up as mysteriously as it came.
Josey, I'm glad you're puppy pondering was hypothetical as I was going to post something similar to what Dapply said (and I'm not as tactful
Nice to hear of Sombra slurping on chunks of melon in the shade. It's a dog's life but someone's got to do it.
I found a number of small wound scabs on the chunky bit of one of Rimmer's back legs, inside and out, when doing a post-woods-walk tick check last night so one of the Rotters from the other day must have bitten him in the bum after all. Glad in a way that all that horrendous squealing wasn't just from pure panic. They didn't visibly bleed at the time though so they weren't very deep. Do dogs 'bruise' as such? My own shoulder (with a minute scratch in the middle) has come up in a mass of spectacular purple bruising but I can't see any skin discolouration on Rimmer's pinkish-skin-under-white-hair. While I assume he took about the same amount of bashing as I did. -
Message 43
Posted by What larks (U14260755) on Friday, 6th August 2010
Thanks! Mr Lark reports that Dog is having slight breathing problems so it may be an allergy; the sores may be from another cause.
Dog seems to think agility is a good deal more fun than running over a load of hurdles just to bring back a ball. There are tunnels to go through an' fings to climb over and you never know where you are going next .... -
Message 44
Posted by Shy (U14227333) on Friday, 6th August 2010
Fri, 06 Aug 2010 07:43 GMT, in reply to skylark in message 43
An allergy was my first thought, skylark. Especially likely at this time of year.
Our dalmatian used to suffer from hayfever, I never knew dogs could before we had her but the vet said it does happen - some breeds are more prone than others. Her hayfever symptoms were similar to those you describe apart from the sores, but she also suffered contact dermatitis on her legs in the spring and summer from running about in long grass. Could Dog have a similar problem from snuffling about maybe? -
Message 45
Posted by What larks (U14260755) on Friday, 6th August 2010
Shy, he used to get an allergy every spring, which caused weepy eyes. This is different, no sign of mucus. But the vet asked if we were walking him somewhere different, so it was something they obviously had considered.
I'll be sorry if we have to give up flyball. It has become a social thing, and we enjoy going to competitions and being part of a team.
It will be a very long time before we are good enough to compete at agility! -
Message 46
Posted by dB (U14258362) on Saturday, 7th August 2010
Hello everyone, I need some help. A friend of mine´s dog suffers from Cushing´s Syndrome, his medicine is proving very costly, about 150€ a month. She was looking through the internet and found what she thinks is the same medicine for a fraction of the price on an english website but there was no mention of what the active ingredients were. Ben´s medicine is Vetoryl 60mg, active ingredient: Trilostan 60,0mg. Can anyone help us, it would be much appreciated. It´s often the case that prices vary greatly from country to country. Thanks.
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Message 47
Posted by Jules Bee (U3036149) on Sunday, 8th August 2010
Sun, 08 Aug 2010 05:50 GMT, in reply to derBogenschuetzer in message 46
Just tagging on, and wondering if anyone here might be able to offer me some advice.
We don't have a dog, and have never owned one, but are considering getting one. We have several friends with dogs, so have some familiarity with them, but in honesty are pretty much total beginners (previous pets have been cats and a hamster...). My children (aged 14 and 11) are very keen, and understand that if we do undertake this joy and commitment, they are expected to be involved in caring for and walking it. OH is away for part of most weeks, so I know that as the other adult in the house, I'll have primary responsibility.
I work four mornings a week, when I'm away from the house from about 9am to about 1.30pm.
My heart is keen, but my head is still being cautious. Any advice on whether it's fair to get a dog when the house is empty part of the day? Suitable breeds? Rescue dog or from a breeder? Puppy or older dog? Or anything else I've blatantly overlooked? All thoughts would be most welcome. -
Message 48
Posted by What larks (U14260755) on Sunday, 8th August 2010
jules bee
Out of the house for less than five hours isn't long to leave a dog. We put a dog door (like a cat flap) in the kitchen door to allow ours into the garden, and asked the neighbours to let us know if he was distrubing them. He apparently doesn't.
I would get a nice older rescue dog rather than a puppy, but then, just at the moment, I'm puppied out, as a friend comes for the weekend with his! -
Message 49
Posted by Campbell in Farewell Clogs (U14226916) on Sunday, 8th August 2010
An older dog would be better (puppies eat your furntiture if you leave them alone for 30 seconds). Also if you get a rescue dog you should be able to find out a lot about its character beforehand and be able to find a dog that fits in with your wishes. Good luck with the search for a new family member and do keep us up to date with progress reports and ask anything you want to about prospective candidates.
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Message 50
Posted by What larks (U14260755) on Sunday, 8th August 2010
I once looked into fostering, just to see if dog ownership would suit me. A local pet charity were lookinf for fosterers; they said they didn't want the dogs left alone for more than four hours, but the woman who came to my house to assess our suitability said that she herself sometimes left hers for five.
Re-homed dogs probably need someone around when they first arrive. They are very insecure. But after they've settled in, I really can't see that leaving them alone for a morning is going to be a problem.
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