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Message 1.Â
Posted by Westsussexbird or Birdy aka Westie (U6316532) on Monday, 13th September 2010
Push, shove, heave, thrust, force, ram, barge, elbow, shoulder, bulldoze, bludgeon, ... or I could try using the key I suppose :0) Whatever, it's worth it to get into the village hall once more to meet up with you all to find out how you are getting on with your quest to eat healthily and sensibly.
Each of us goes about it in our own way and as we are an eclectic bunch we learn a lot from each other. Some of us want to lose a bit of weight, some of us want to lose a lot of weight, some of us have lost a lot of weight but still need help and support to maintain and one thing I think we have all realised is that we really have to consider this a life style choice and really embrace the concept of eating healthy food most of the time. I have learned that unless I adopt that concept with enthusiasm then I might as well not bother as if I let up my weight goes back on "just like that"!
Use the thread as you find it most helpful .. pop in every day and tell us how you are doing .. come in once a week/month to tell us if you have lost weight .. tell us your food diary for the day .. whatever is best for you. You might be feeling really cheesed off (this is a food thread after all!) but coming in here will remind you that you aren't alone and you can grab some of Laura's stiffened resolves to help you on your way and read how others are managing and have a moan if it will help, or, you might come in and say how well you are doing which is encouraging for everyone else. It helps me enormously to find someone who is in the right zone mentally. Please share. It is what makes this thread work.
One rule only which has stood us in good stead is that we ask you not to mention your actual weight on this thread. This isn't a competition and it would be dreadful if one poster lamented reaching 12 stone when another poster would give her eye teeth to be 12 stone and so feel discourged. This is a support thread, pure and simple.
So ... another week and another opportunity to make some good decisions and give yourself the chance to feel really chuffed with yourself at the end of the week. You can only do your best ... and we're here to hold your hand (you'll eat more slowly with only one hand?) all the way.
We have three companion threads - GEm's Cyber Gym
Katy's wonderful Cookbook/thread has a wealth of ideas and recipes see
And lastly, the Rota thread. There is no need to host the thread just open the door (by whatever means you find easiest!!) and stand back and let everyone in. If you aren't familiar with copying and pasting links don't worry, someone else will come along and do it for you :0))
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Message 2
Posted by Auntie Prue (U14585893) on Monday, 13th September 2010
A lovely opening, westie - which is no surprise.
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Message 3
Posted by Westsussexbird or Birdy aka Westie (U6316532) on Monday, 13th September 2010
... I was just returning to bump this up above the old thread but you got here first Sparkers :0)
We've just had mince/onions and I've learned that adding green peppers and broad beans before the end of cooking really makes it very nice. I don't thicken with flour as I used to but use a bit less liquid. I now place onions in water and zap them in the microwave to partly cook them and produce stock. (You need a lid)
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Message 4
Posted by Fire-Pig - proud to wave the protest banner (U12231213) on Monday, 13th September 2010
Love that opening, Westie. I have just had my usual Monday night treat of two poached eggs on Marmite toast. I have supper by myself on a Monday - today there was no bread as it had been dropped in a puddle (!), so I halve a cheesy roll and it was very good. Tonight I finished with a lovely big orange.
Now to stitch my Mama's birthday card.
KOKO one and all
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Message 5
Posted by Westsussexbird or Birdy aka Westie (U6316532) on Monday, 13th September 2010
Fire Pig ... I'm so glad you feel able to make your mother's card tonight :0)
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Message 6
Posted by boo decker (U10848648) on Monday, 13th September 2010
Hello all.
Could I muse on 'healthy eating madness' in schools?
Boo is nearly 6. He has something akin to hypogycemia (or however you spell it) that has a drastic effect on his behaviour. If his blood sugar drops too low he becomes irrational, aggressive, hyperactive, violent........ Since working this out after he was nearly excluded from nursery we have managed to keep him on a even keel most of the time by watching his food intake, he needs lots of complex, slow release foods at regular intervals. Fruit sugars leave his body ridiculously fast causing him to do what we call 'crash and bounce'. He has packed lunches at school, a sarnie made with half and half bread and a protein filling, normally ham but sometimes cheese, a carrot or 2 mini carrots and then 4 cheddars (the biscuits). I'm currently trying to replace the cheddars with oatcakes as they are a healthier option but he is a small boy!
Today he came home with his cheddars uneaten because they had been talking 'healthy eating' and they'd done a lunchbox comparison and his cheddars had been singled out for being too high in fat.
I know schools have a duty to do the healthy eating stuff but Boo is so very literal and I do wonder if 'we' (teachers) don't take enough account of medical needs and conditions when we teach?
Boo and I have had a chat about his blood sugar problems and we've weighed up the pros and cons of the cheddars, he's going to try the oatcakes at home at the weekend, versus the cons of lsing his temper, playtime etc!
Just musing and not really expecting an answer.
I should add that he eats well and a varied diet at home but he finds the lunch hall so hard to cope with (all that noise!) that he is a little rigid with his packed lunch! -
Message 7
Posted by Fire-Pig - proud to wave the protest banner (U12231213) on Monday, 13th September 2010
Boo I'm sorry to read about this. Teachers should be so careful with subjects like this, and it would probably have been better if they had told the parents first and asked whether there were any special considerations.
When my adopted sister was in primary school the class were told to find out their birth weights for some project. She wrote "I don't know, my mother wasn't there when I was born" Fortunately the teacher had an idea she might be adopted but I can imagine some teachers getting very sarcastic over that response!
Stitching going well, Westie but it won't be finished in time to post tomorrow for Wednesday, still the presents should arrive and this will only be a day or so later. It is based on this design but the stitching will be mounted more imaginatively than that.
Back to needle and thread!
KOKO one and all
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Message 8
Posted by Westsussexbird or Birdy aka Westie (U6316532) on Monday, 13th September 2010
Fire Pig that is beautiful.
Boo, what a dreadful saga for your son. I'm sorry.
Nairns Oatcakes make a cheddar one ... my daughter loves them. This is their website ... I have looked at it before and they tell you the fat content of their oatcakes somewhere.
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Message 9
Posted by Westsussexbird or Birdy aka Westie (U6316532) on Monday, 13th September 2010
The packets of oatcakes are divided into little packs with 5 oatcakes in each pack.
They have more fat than some other oatcakes but it means they slip down easily. I don't know how that compares with cheddars etc.
I see they do small packs ... like a packet of nibbles. -
Message 10
Posted by anagramladysin (U14258840) on Monday, 13th September 2010
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Message 11
Posted by Westsussexbird or Birdy aka Westie (U6316532) on Monday, 13th September 2010
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Message 12
Posted by puzzler76 (U3733897) on Tuesday, 14th September 2010
Morning all, 1.25lb off for me this week. I'm very pleased as I have been trying hard. There were a few hiccups over the weekend and a couple of nibbles of the girls leftover cheese sandwiches yesterday but I put that down to (Puzzlerette's) first day at school nerves...
OH had a good result this morning but it was somewhat skewed by his having no alcohol last night and swimming 18 lengths when usual on a Monday he'd have a couple of glasses of wine and do no swimming! Now if I can just talk him into repeating that a few times a week...! -
Message 13
Posted by puzzler76 (U3733897) on Tuesday, 14th September 2010
bpm, I was very interested to read what you wrote about Boo. Puzzlerette's behaviour is dramatically affected by her sugar intake (or lack of it). When I picked her up from school yesterday (her first afternoon there) she was in a right state. Puzzling was overjoyed to see her and was desperately trying to give her a cuddle but Puzzlerette kept pushing her away and shouting at her, making a huge fuss.
We already knew that if she gets like that she needs sugar to bring her out of it. Fortunately I was able to give her a couple of mini jammie dodgers straightaway which had a miraculous effect. Today I'm going to ask if she can eat something at afternoon playtime so she's rather more pleasant when I pick her up! She likes cereal bars and that sort of thing so I hope that would be acceptable. -
Message 14
Posted by Westsussexbird or Birdy aka Westie (U6316532) on Tuesday, 14th September 2010
Puzzlerette at school!!!!! Crumbs! (This is a food thread!) Well done you Puzzler :0) A real encouragement for you and all of us to persevere ....
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Message 15
Posted by Auntie Prue (U14585893) on Tuesday, 14th September 2010
booandpingasmum - good to meet you : )
I would like to point out that young children, which includes 6 year olds, need more fat than adults need. This is because they are developing nerve tissue which is coated in a fatty sheath.
If I were to be nitpicky, I would say that cheddars are made with refined white flour instead of wholegrains like oatcaks. BUT, the fat content really isn't an issue for a 6 year old. unless he is eating a whole boxful per day - and you say there were only 4 in his lunchbox.
A little knowledge is a dangerous thing - and it worries me that perhaps there had been no consultation with an expert in child nutrition.
4 cheddars wouldn't be good for my lunch - but I can't see what was wrong with it for your son's lunch.
IMO Boo's lunch was appropriate for a 6 year old. The oatcakes will be an improvement because the carbs will be released gradually and he would be less likely to go hypoglycemic. However, the fat in the cheddars would have lowered the glycemic load of the white flour - so they would have been better for your son than white biscuits with much less fat, which would have caused a blood glucose peak and fall.
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Message 16
Posted by Westsussexbird or Birdy aka Westie (U6316532) on Tuesday, 14th September 2010
Very elegantly put Sparkers :0)
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Message 17
Posted by Auntie Prue (U14585893) on Tuesday, 14th September 2010
..... for my next trick ..... lol westie
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Message 18
Posted by Miftrefs Laura in Lothian bufily ftitching (U2587870) on Tuesday, 14th September 2010
Tue, 14 Sep 2010 10:35 GMT, in reply to sparkleering in message 15
Excellent post, sparkers - I think boo's mum should print it out and send it to the teacher!
Here, breakfasts are considerably more than one apple now I've got the big jar of homemade greengage jam, yum yum, oops.
Caffeine tablets twice a day with the tall, thin cans of lemonade are doing the trick for a third day. I note with interest that I do seem more organised, energetic and active without all the stuff that's in the DEDs other than caffeine! The caffeine of two mugs of coffee a day is fine with me.
Sunshine and showers here but windy - a real feel of September (which is appropriate...), and my thoughts are turning to sausages, stews and kale...! Portions, laura, portions...
KOKO all!
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Message 19
Posted by Westsussexbird or Birdy aka Westie (U6316532) on Tuesday, 14th September 2010
Laura's poor brain ... trying to work out how come I'm feeling good without my daily fix of DEDs :0))
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Message 20
Posted by LostInML (U13646691) on Tuesday, 14th September 2010
Healthy eating's on my PSHE agenda this year. Sigh. I am very wary of having to teach this, not because I don't believe in it, but because it is so difficult to get pupils to see how grey the subject is. Teenagers tend to want things in black and white... but it's not always that clear-cut. One person's 'right eating' could be harmful to someone else... It's O.K. to give general outlines, but pupils don't want principles.
On a personal note, I'm back at work and very, very hungry! -
Message 21
Posted by Westsussexbird or Birdy aka Westie (U6316532) on Tuesday, 14th September 2010
For Lost :0)
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Message 22
Posted by Miftrefs Laura in Lothian bufily ftitching (U2587870) on Tuesday, 14th September 2010
Tue, 14 Sep 2010 17:30 GMT, in reply to westie - westsussexbird in message 19
without my daily fix of DEDsÂ
Two small DEDs slipped through this afternoon. I forgot the after-lunch caffeine tablets and was out near shops and...
Gawd, it's like giving up drinking was, years ago, or trying to stop smoking (unsuccessful) in more recent years.
Tomorrow's another day, right? From this moment on, I have the power, and the /right/ , to choose healthier options in what I ingest.
KOKO everyone...
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Message 23
Posted by LostInML (U13646691) on Tuesday, 14th September 2010
Ah, Westie, my son has just gone out to buy me some grapes! I reckoned that it was safer to have some fruit in the house than to resort to anything in my cupboard... (I need to go shopping tomorrow, so all that's left are things that are not good for me!)
You do indeed have the power and the right to choose healthy options, Laura. Chin up, back straight, keep going! -
Message 24
Posted by Westsussexbird or Birdy aka Westie (U6316532) on Tuesday, 14th September 2010
:0)
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Message 25
Posted by GEm (U4356909) on Tuesday, 14th September 2010
Lost - check in with Katy Tulip on the cookbook thread - we did a whole load some years ago on healthy eating. You might be able to persuade her to let you steal some of it.
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Message 26
Posted by boo decker (U10848648) on Tuesday, 14th September 2010
I totally agree Lost. I teach top end of Primary school, Year 6 this year, and I hate the PHSE/Science modules on "healthy eating" because I am so wary of giving the 'wrong' information or message.
As you say, kids are so very 'black and white' about it, they can't see the grey areas. Its a bit easier in my class as I have a child with PKU and we have talked a lot about why X needs a special drink at break time and why the contents of his lunch box look so different and why I only ever give a certain brand of sweets as the sweetie choice in the treats box (non edible prizes are also available).
On the way to school today Boo and I discussed how the body needs lots of different types of foods to stay healthy and that eating nothing but fruit would actually not be very good for you etc. I have found some of the cheese oatcakes and he will try them at home where it is 'safe'.
I will leave it for now with his teacher as we have a 'settling in' appointment soon and I shall raise it then.
On the plus side I have been to WW tonight and lost 1lb since last week despite being away for the weekend doing this:
(11.54 mins in)
at a venue where only bacon butties and strong tea were available! -
Message 27
Posted by Westsussexbird or Birdy aka Westie (U6316532) on Tuesday, 14th September 2010
Boo ... the little blue car?
I hope the cheese oatcakes prove helpful. Did you find Nairns? -
Message 28
Posted by boo decker (U10848648) on Tuesday, 14th September 2010
The little blue car indeed! OH's pride and joy and my rival for his time and affection!
Yes, got nairn's. I like those ones too so stocked up on fine milled for me with my low fat hummous at lunch time at work.
Re the rallying... yet another reason to shed poundage, the seats are racing seats and I don't fit! -
Message 29
Posted by Westsussexbird or Birdy aka Westie (U6316532) on Tuesday, 14th September 2010
Respect Boo ... well done you :0) A rival for his affection? I always laugh that if I had to choose between my man and my van (campervan) I'd really struggle ... but not really!
I only asked if you got Nairns as they are pretty much the only ones I know about and so can't vouch for the texture and flavour of any others. Sburys do their own version which is pretty much identical but doesn't cost any less unless on offer. They are baked a tiny bit more I think. And I've only ever tried the plain ones.
Laura makes her own ..... :0) -
Message 30
Posted by Miftrefs Laura in Lothian bufily ftitching (U2587870) on Tuesday, 14th September 2010
Tue, 14 Sep 2010 21:36 GMT, in reply to westie - westsussexbird in message 29
Might boo enjoy making his own, adding his favourite cheese, grated fine, or sprinkled on top, or putting his initials on, or maybe if he has a short name, putting a letter on each so the row of oatcakes spells out his name?
laura -
Message 31
Posted by LostInML (U13646691) on Wednesday, 15th September 2010
I had an interesting conversation at school yesterday with older pupils about healthy eating choices. It was someone's birthday with cake etc. and I was offered some, so I explained that I don't eat cake because of my diabetes. 'What, never?' they asked in horror. No, never. Then one of them said, 'But my grandma's diabetic and she eats cake.'
Now at this point I could have a) said that grandma was wrong and ought not to eat cake b) that eating cake for diabetics is always wrong etc... but that is not really the whole truth. So I told them that I personally choose never to eat cake as a way of helping me to maintain good control over my diabetes. It's up to other people how they choose to maintain good control. And the kids understood that.
Not eating cake is one thing. I wish I could say no to lots of other things which are equally fine in moderation but which I find hard to eat in moderation!! -
Message 32
Posted by Westsussexbird or Birdy aka Westie (U6316532) on Wednesday, 15th September 2010
Noone said it is easy Lost :0)
Perhaps in those circumstances my option of waiting ten minutes before I eat anything not planned would have worked as I expect the children would have polished off the cake by then :0) -
Message 33
Posted by puzzler76 (U3733897) on Wednesday, 15th September 2010
I'm feeling good today. I think the effects of walking Puzzlerette to school are beginning to dawn on me. Even in the pouring rain yesterday it wasn't too bad, and doing it every week day is bound to be beneficial to us all. I am determined to do the Moonwalk in May so it's about time I started walking regularly really, even if I'm only starting with relatively small distances.
After Christmas when Puzzling starts preschool two days a week my route will get longer too so that's going to help.
Here's to a healthy lifestyle for life! -
Message 34
Posted by Westsussexbird or Birdy aka Westie (U6316532) on Wednesday, 15th September 2010
Atta girl :0))
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Message 35
Posted by LostInML (U13646691) on Wednesday, 15th September 2010
I'm trying the waiting tactic, Westie. Today I've resolved not to snack between meals at all. Meals are fine... planned and organised. Anything else is nice, but unnecessary. It's nearly 9.30 and lunchtime seems a long way away. But I manage when I'm at work, so I can do it today at home too!
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Message 36
Posted by Westsussexbird or Birdy aka Westie (U6316532) on Wednesday, 15th September 2010
What about telling yourself you can have a smackerel of something at 10.30 or 11?
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Message 37
Posted by Fire-Pig - proud to wave the protest banner (U12231213) on Wednesday, 15th September 2010
Sorry Laura
Two small DEDs slipped through this afternoon. I forgot the after-lunch caffeine tablets and was out near shops and... Â I had to take my jacket off as my office was so hot in the sunshine, so your wallet must have slipped out!!!
Constant vigilance seems to be the need, I wish it got easier. I am trying to arrange some leave so that I can s-l-e-e-p at the moment I feel that I could sleep for a week! I am too tired and not thinking straight, can't do my sudokus or crosswords.
Lost, I have tried that of not snacking between meals, and I know that is what Tolkny follows. I can do it sometimes, but .... other times I give in. More strength to your elbow!
Puzzler, enjoy the walks to and from school, I remember some very intense conversations at that time. YP was very observant and could not understand why drivers did not obey the newly introduced seat belt law. He'd seen it on TV and how do you explain law breaking? We just counted "bad men"* en route and gradually it did get less.
This morning I tried on some trousers - they can be done up but really they will have to wait on the rail for a while longer. Let them be a spur to me - I won't buy any more they are waiting. let me reach them soon!
KOKO making good choices
F-P
*In our random small survey it was almost always male drivers not wearing seatbelts back in the early 80s -
Message 38
Posted by Westsussexbird or Birdy aka Westie (U6316532) on Wednesday, 15th September 2010
Fire Pig :0)
I think the main thing is not to set yourself up for a fall ... it will be perfectly fine if you begin to feel pealy wally to give your body some energy in the form of food ... and it might be better to keep the energy levels steady in that way. Maybe at home you dash around more than you do at work and so need something mid morning? -
Message 39
Posted by Auntie Prue (U14585893) on Wednesday, 15th September 2010
I think you are wise to refuse all cake at school, Lost. Otherwise you might find yourself having to say yes to some and no to others.
I allow myself a very small piece of cake as an occasional treat - but it has to be planned in advance, probably as part of a meal so as to lower the overall GL.
Not a good day yesterday - eldest daughter suffers badly from depression - she is having all the right treatment, ie under a consultant, and gets by, but if several negative things happen at once she isn't good at coping. She has had her dream holiday cancelled due to travelling companion's illness; then lost her deposit for another one for reasons to do with her medication; had a funeral of one of her friends to go to yesterday. We do what we can - but we are very aware that there is very little that really helps.
One nice thing happened though. On my Facebook profile I have a photograph album where I put pics of the things I have knitted. A couple of days ago I finished a rather colourful jacket that was knitted from handspun bits and pieces. A lot of friends (many of whom are Mustardlanders) were very kind about it - but I had such a lovely surprise yesterday evening, when the great Gudren Sjoden popped up to say she likes it too. As most of you will know - I love her clothes, it was Gaye Gables, if you remember her, who put me onto Gudren Sjoden's designs. She very kindly commented in English - but I have now found an online translation site, so I can join in conversations in Swedish!
I think daughter will perk up a bit - her Dad had a long chat to her on the phone the other day - and talked her through the things she was taught in counselling. To the outside world she appears to have a brilliant life - enviable job, excellent social life etc - but it just shows about books and covers.
Sorry to bang on about me me me this morning - but this feels like a safe place at the moment. -
Message 40
Posted by Westsussexbird or Birdy aka Westie (U6316532) on Wednesday, 15th September 2010
.. and you know there are some of us that understand a little of what you write. :0)
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Message 41
Posted by LostInML (U13646691) on Wednesday, 15th September 2010
I think this is a safe place... that's what is so precious about it. Hope your daughter gets on a more even keel soon. I know what it feels like to despair. It's an awful place...
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Message 42
Posted by Miftrefs Laura in Lothian bufily ftitching (U2587870) on Wednesday, 15th September 2010
Wed, 15 Sep 2010 09:22 GMT, in reply to sparkleering in message 39
yesterday evening, when the great Gudren Sjoden popped up to say she likes it too.Â
Dropped jaw, stunned expression... WOW!!!!!!!!
laura -
Message 43
Posted by FlufflesB (U14188870) on Wednesday, 15th September 2010
Hello Everyone
Fire-Pig, love the beaded card you are/were doing. I must start crafting again.
Westie - great opener, thanks. Very interesting discussion re snacks, children etc. Has inspired me to try the oatcakes which have never 'drawn' me before. When the vending machine was removed from my ex educational workplace, the post-break behaviour improved remarkably. Any sugar highs had to be planned and bought in. Planning? Youth?
Right, off I go back to lurk. Feel miserable at the moment and spiralling downward nicely where food and red wine is concerned. Long-standing, boring reason which is kept under control for most of the time. Will perk up soon I hope and get out of the aptly named circle.
FB -
Message 44
Posted by FlufflesB (U14188870) on Wednesday, 15th September 2010
ps, nice stuff on Gudren's website! Almost wants to make me come out of retirement.
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Message 45
Posted by Westsussexbird or Birdy aka Westie (U6316532) on Wednesday, 15th September 2010
Fluffles, it's good to see you :0)
I find the plain Nairns oatcakes go very well with a variety of nuts and dried fruits. Always a handy dose of energy when you feel you would like something, and you really don't need to eat much to benefit.
I love dried apricots and cashews, and fig and brazil nuts. Pine nuts and dried mango ... in fact anything goes with anything really :0)) -
Message 46
Posted by Fire-Pig - proud to wave the protest banner (U12231213) on Wednesday, 15th September 2010
Sparkers - cooo!! Praise indeed. I love her clothes too from what I have seen but at the moment am not buying anything new. Next year it might be different! Please don't worry about posting about yourself - I do it all the time (Yes we've noticed - Ed!) As you say, it feels a safe place and it is always possible to scroll on by. I'm another with family experience of depression, but YP won't talk about it at all and is no longer under treatment.
Fluffles good to see you - hope you are feeling more in control soon. Don't think one day at a time but one hour ... The card was finished this morning and is in the post now. I didn't take a photo of it as I will probably make the design again with a more imaginative finish to it. This was mounted on two layers of card picking up the thread and bead colours.
Westie, I am another Nairn's fan, since you introduced me to them! I have just stuck to plain.
KOKO one and all
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Message 47
Posted by LostInML (U13646691) on Wednesday, 15th September 2010
Well, I survived to lunchtime without a snack. One hour at a time seems a good idea right now!
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Message 48
Posted by Penstemon (U4429639) on Wednesday, 15th September 2010
Well done LinML, keep going. I think training the stomach to expect less, and some sort of diversion tactic would be a good thing. The trouble with being on a 'diet' is that you (or rather I) become a bit obsessed about food which can somewhat defeat the object of the exercise. My danger time is at night as I like to 'pick' at food, especially if there isn't much on the telly.
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Message 49
Posted by Westsussexbird or Birdy aka Westie (U6316532) on Wednesday, 15th September 2010
I've stuck with plain Nairns in case I like the othes toooo much :0) A small amount of Nutella on a plain oatcake makes a top quality sweet biscuit. I had a lovely square of uncooked fridge chocolate crunchy cake this morning as a treat. Every mouthful was heaven!
Well done indeedy Lost :0) Mind over matter I think.
Hi Sausages :0) I get out of the kitchen once we've eaten in the evening ..... but not so easy with children around.
Our eating lives are ruled by medicines at the moment ... I have some that have to be taken immediately before food then nothing for a couple of hours then some after food, and not less than four hourly and not more than six hourly and to cap it all, OH has just been given some antibiotics that have to be taken half an hour before food ... so he has to eat something in twenty minutes! How complicated it all is! He has just had some stitches removed near his eye and it looks a bit angry so the doc isn't taking any chances.
I've recently given up coffee apart from decaff, so am really hardly drinking any, and have replaced it with honey and cider vinegar and then another drink is black molasses. They really are perfectly acceptable and supposedly good for arthritis. I await to see! -
Message 50
Posted by puzzler76 (U3733897) on Wednesday, 15th September 2010
Ooh Westie, meds are so awkward, aren't they? Puzzlerette is on antibiotics which have to be taken 'an hour before food or on an empty stomach' which is quite tricky for a four year old.
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