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  • Message 1. 

    Posted by LostInML (U13646691) on Monday, 25th October 2010

    According to the newspapers, today is the day you have to seriously think about dieting if you want to fit into that 'little black dress' for Christmas parties.

    Well, here at MFC, we think seriously about healthy living all the year round, but if you're new to the thread and new to the idea of life being more than a diet, welcome to this week's discussions! We're a group of people who are interested in eating healthily, living healthily and exercising healthily!

    For some of us, we do want to lose weight; others want to maintain the weight they are currently at. But we are about more than faddy foods and crash diets; we recognise that the mind and body are connected and we aim to support each other in living well.

    Our only rule is that we don't mention actual sizes or weights so as not to be off-putting in any way.

    Other connected threads are:
    GEm's Cyber Gym (for all your exercise questions)


    Katy's CookBook (for delicious recipes)


    The Rota Thread (where we take it in turns to start the week's thread, as we start a new thread each week - we talk a lot!)


    So, join in the chat and welcome aboard!

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    Posted by myria (U4022847) on Monday, 25th October 2010

    Hello All!

    Thanks for opening up lost. It is the first day of half term so I am celebrating my hard earned break by stuffing my face and making myself ill and miserable, I really hate myself sometimes! Am going to get dressed and have a shower now and hope to start the day afresh.

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    Posted by LostInML (U13646691) on Monday, 25th October 2010

    I'm celebrating the first day of half-term by writing yet more lessonplans. New topics for new specifications, so it's all from scratch. It's taken me all morning to write 3 lessonplans. At this pace, I will never get through 7 weeks' worth of work!

    Have a shower, start afresh, seize the day and don't use food to compensate. It doesn't work. I've got years of experience on that one.

    So far today I've hada slice of toast for breakfast, two cups of delicious coffee and some grapes for a post-swimming snack. I am contemplating a salad for lunch and making some home-made low-fat coleslaw to go with that. The rest of the red cabbage is going to be slowly braised in pomegranate juice for my dinner (cottage pie with lots of vegetables, all different colours.)

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    Posted by Westsussexbird or Birdy aka Westie (U6316532) on Monday, 25th October 2010

    Thanks for opening up Lost .... you and Myria both collapsing into half term :0)) DD2 (who is doing her PGCE) has got to her first half term in one piece! Phew!

    DD1 who teaches woodwind on a peripatetic basis prefers the structure of term time and flounders a bit during the holidays .....

    We just bought some lovely chunks of white fish to pop on top of roast veggies (breadcrumbs and herbs on top of the fish) for when DD2 comes home for 48 hours tomorrow. They cost as much as a good sized joint of beef, which gives more than just the one meal and lots of sandwiches toooo.

    I hope everyone has a good week ....

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    Posted by Miftrefs Laura in Lothian bufily ftitching (U2587870) on Monday, 25th October 2010

    Mon, 25 Oct 2010 15:07 GMT, in reply to westsussexBirdy in message 4

    Free-range sausages bought cut-price last night, roasted on a thick bed of finely-chopped onion and garlic, then some Duchy beef stock added and the whole lot simmered for ages with lots of pearl barley added. I'm partial to bangers and they keep being cut-price for very ethical ones, but this is my plan to stretch them out, so instead of scoffing half a dozen, I'll freeze this very savoury rich stew in portions with only two chipolatas in each and see how that works. I'm not all that keen on many carbs but love pearl barley although I often forget to use it because it needs forethought. So I hope plenty of pearl barley and onion and garlic and very good stock and minimal sossidgeing will work!

    KOKO all.... especially our teachers... it's called the "October Week" in Scotland and it was all of last week - timed for the potato harvest because most of the children would vanish from school anyway to the tattie-howkin' and after all, why would you stay in school if you could earn whole sixpences for howkin' tatties, eh?

    laura

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    Posted by Westsussexbird or Birdy aka Westie (U6316532) on Monday, 25th October 2010

    Tatty week perhaps? :0)

    Don't forget my favourite accompaniment quinoa. If cooked with a good stock and perhaps some herbs/garlic it really is lovely. Nice cold as well, I mix it into salad sometimes.

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    Posted by myria (U4022847) on Monday, 25th October 2010

    I'm a massive holiday flounderer too Birdy, and today has been a disaster. Am trying to start afresh for tomorrow, will be going into school so hopefully that will give me some structure back, and place me far away from the kitchen . . . Please send positive vibes, I can't cope with falling apart like I did over the summer!

    KOKO to all, I skimmed last week's thread and found it inspiring! x

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    Posted by Westsussexbird or Birdy aka Westie (U6316532) on Monday, 25th October 2010

    I remember your difficult summer Myria and hope very much you can avoid a repeat .... forewarned is forearmed, or something? :0))) We are all here cheering you on.

    Incidentally ... a correction ... quinoa is only nice cold AFTER it has been cooked in the stock/flavourings I mentioned ... not cold out of the packet!

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    Posted by LostInML (U13646691) on Monday, 25th October 2010

    Every time anyone mentions quinoa, I think of Helen Archer and her shop...!

    Well, I've done one year group on the new specification. Now I'm starting on Y11. I have to devise a Controlled Assessment task to start with. Yuk.

    Lunch was great... salad with some bacon and home-made coleslaw. Wilting a bit now, though!

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    Posted by boo decker (U10848648) on Monday, 25th October 2010

    Hello, another half term flounderer here.

    I am poorly..... this is typical of half term for me and have not made good choices over the weekend. Saturday was my 10th wedding anniversary so I drank rather toooo much and ate rather too much. Yesterday I felt rubbish.... put it down to the drink until I started wheezing last night.

    I am also trying to get Pinga out of nappies and into pants. Its not going well!

    8 soggy pairs of pants yesterday, not so many today but not one wee has made it into the target zone. One near miss that involved me in a soggy t shirt. I keep trying!

    We have a slow cooked hotpot for tea tonight and the other half will go in the freezer. I was rather enthusiastic with the potatoes slicing and have a fair few left over....... I'm resisitng the urge to fry them!

    KOKO one and all!

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    Posted by Fire-Pig - proud to wave the protest banner (U12231213) on Monday, 25th October 2010

    Laura, I'm still in a happy mood, so the idea of free range sausages conjures up pictures of them running around gambolling free - what do they want to be when they grow up?

    Boo, firstly congratulations on the first 10 years! I know just what you mean about feeling ill when it is not a working day. The number of times I have woken with a migraine on my day off really annoys me! I hope you feel better soon, and good luck with Pinga. I think I was lucky with mine as we lived in the tropics at the relevant time and so they did not have many clothes on, and they dried quickly when washed! (Both children and clothing!)

    Myria and Lost, I hope that you manage to get some free time to enjoy the break. I think many of your pupils have come our way, the streets are packed once more!

    Birdy, thank you for that compliment about my mothering skills on the last thread, I have done my best. There is an awful feeling of guilt when you have had to send them to boarding school at the tender age of 8, because of OH's job. They thrived on it, far more so than I did!

    My lunchtime walk was wonderful, the sunshine and the light on the mountains, truly a day to make you feel glad that you are alive!

    I'm off for my Monday supper of poached eggs soon, today on Spelt bread.

    KOKO one and all

    F-P

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    Posted by Miftrefs Laura in Lothian bufily ftitching (U2587870) on Monday, 25th October 2010

    Mon, 25 Oct 2010 18:28 GMT, in reply to Fire-Pig in message 11

    That's exactly how I think of them, F-P, and what they ALL want to be when they grow up is My Supper! So dreams come true for two hard-working determined little free-range bangers tonight!

    They were lovely... two small chipolatas would not normally be enough for supper, but I had the pearl barley, almost as sticky as a risotto with the beef stock reduced...
    It was in the Remoska, and it was 6 small chipolatas, 3 large onions, finely minced, four cloves of garlic ditto, one pot of Duchy Originals beef stock and about three mugs of pearl barley and a mug of water. Then I stirred it and put the lid on and left til it went sticky and much of the liquid had gone. So two more 2-soss portions to freeze.

    Did I not have veg, you ask? Er... well, kinda... I think it must count. I know usually "chives" isn't a vegetable, but I had approx a large mug-full of chopped chives on the stew. In a 5-inch wide bowl it was close to two inches thick. That has to be a portion of veg, doesn't it?

    A couple of oranges for later, along with some Coco of Bruntsfield chocolate as a special treat, two 70g bars which I may or may not finish off tonight!

    F-P, I am glad you enjoyed our walk today as much as I did. Those leaves are amazing, aren't they, the colours change every day...


    I tidied my room yesterday (interesting... first time it's been properly done since August, hmm...) and listened to a 4-part World Service documentary on the brain and its functions. One experiment they looked at showed that when people are thirsty, they are statistically significantly more likely to make decisions that they know are risky. So... get that water glugged down to help you make healthier choices - get thirsty, eat risky.... get glugging, eat healthy!

    laura

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  • Message 13

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    Posted by Westsussexbird or Birdy aka Westie (U6316532) on Monday, 25th October 2010

    Boo ... when you said you were a bit too enthusiastic with the spud slicing I thought you were going to say you had sliced a bit of finger .... good luck with getting a bullseye with Pinga ... I will never forget one of my sis in law's face when my mother announced that I was dry at 8 months ... or some ridiculously young age!! She forgot to mention I went on to wet the bed for rather longer than is socially aceptable!

    Fire Pig ... my 3 brothers and I were all packed off to boarding school ... with mixed results I think. :0)

    Supper smells emanating from the kitchen ... must go.

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    Posted by boo decker (U10848648) on Monday, 25th October 2010

    Laura, in term of eating this:

    One experiment they looked at showed that when people are thirsty, they are statistically significantly more likely to make decisions that they know are risky. 

    makes a lot of sense to me. A couple of weeks ago I decided to forgo my usual cup of tea at work. I filled a water bottle and kept it wiht me all day. I drank far more than I normally do and DIDN"T spend the day nose down in the biscuit barrel. I stood up to my annoying student and dealt with the stress that entailed without recourse to food.

    I shall be glugging tomorrow, thank you for the timely reminder!

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    Posted by Fire-Pig - proud to wave the protest banner (U12231213) on Monday, 25th October 2010

    Boo, not clear from your post whether you just took the water once, or was it such a revelation to you that you now take it routinely?

    Glad you can see the free range sossidges running round Laura!

    F-P

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  • Message 16

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    Posted by boo decker (U10848648) on Monday, 25th October 2010

    Sorry FP, didn't make it clear.

    I had a glorious week where i drank lots and ate far better.

    Then it all slipped.

    Laura has reminded me that I need to return to drinking water.

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  • Message 17

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    Posted by Fire-Pig - proud to wave the protest banner (U12231213) on Monday, 25th October 2010

    Birdy, were you and your brothers sent to school in Hertford of Horsham like so many clergy children? My brother was at Horsham, I was at Hertford, my father and my aunt, also clergy children had preceded us there.

    Boo, I think one of my problems is that I have a very good week, when it all works out well, then I et complacent and start thinking that this healthy eating lark is easy and I can now do it without thinking .... such ideas lead to downfall! (Pride comes before a fall and all that!)

    F-P

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    Posted by Westsussexbird or Birdy aka Westie (U6316532) on Monday, 25th October 2010

    Waffle alert: I went to more schools than you could shake a stick at in search of an education :0)) I have mentioned before that I can't remember anything, and so first went to the little junior school up the road, then to a junior school at a neighbouring village where the headmistress used to have me into her little house after school to read and do maths. Then to a prep boarding school that I loved as it was a lovely old house set in fields, but I don't recall learning anything but I was good at sports.

    However, I then moved on to a PNEU school where my sporting prowess was meant to be appreciated and I was made some sort of sports prefect which meant I had to do all the games sheets of where everyone played on the pitch etc ... I could never remember the names of the positions on the field, so that was a nightmare. But I loved lacrosse. I left there after two years and went to a huge CDS (clergy daughters') school in Somerset (as was) and loved the hugely enormous house there ... it had a tumbledown Japanese garden which I loved. The RE teacher used to knit her own bras.

    I then moved to school in one of the channel islands I got 3 O levels (fortunately I got RE!!) and didn't have to do A levels but did typing which was the best thing I ever did.

    I went nursing in London but got meningitis and used that as a lever to leave and did a secretarial course in Cambridge where I met OH who was at uni there. It took him some time to realise I was the love of his life (he was perfectly happy before he met me!!) but we both moved to London and lived round the corner from each other on Brixton Hill ... he trained as an accountant and I worked for a medical journalist. I loved that. We each earned £1,000pa and he passed some exams and got £3,000! Luckily he realised I was a constant sort of person and the rest is history! I'm practical, he's clever. We seem to suit. We lived in New York for a couple of years and ended up touring all round with a car and little tent. Magic. Two daughters ... both teach.

    So, what did I gain from my education? I love old houses having been to so many schools in old houses, and from being brought up in a huge Georgian rectory for my informative years.

    Uncle Fred paid for my "education". I didn't care for him! :0))

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    Posted by Westsussexbird or Birdy aka Westie (U6316532) on Monday, 25th October 2010

    I got a bit carried away there ... I meant to say we have friends who taught at Christs Hospital in Horsham. They have moved the girls there from Hertford.



    There are one or two nice pics in the photostream ... a nice school.

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    Posted by Fire-Pig - proud to wave the protest banner (U12231213) on Monday, 25th October 2010

    I was thinking of Christ's Hospital, my niece* was one of the ones who moved from Hertford to Horsham at the time of the merger.

    I was at Hertford, we did NOT wear that uniform.

    *the third generation of the family to go there!

    F-P

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    Posted by Westsussexbird or Birdy aka Westie (U6316532) on Monday, 25th October 2010

    :0)

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    Posted by archingmad (U8292055) on Monday, 25th October 2010

    So much rushing about with Mum in hospital that I am having to use the car every day. The weather was so beautiful today that I parked the car a long way from my destination and walked, 15 minutes each way, along the cliff top. I took photos of a glorious red leaved tree (don't know the name) and enjoyed my short time in the fresh air. I miss my really long walks and eating has been a bit erratic. Nerves are keeping the weight down though.

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    Posted by LostInML (U13646691) on Tuesday, 26th October 2010

    Friends, if you have any warm thoughts for me, I need them. I have a 'situation' with my son that I am trying to help him resolve, but at a distance, it's difficult. We are going to visit this weekend and hope things may get sorted then, but it's not easy to tell truth from mishmash, if that makes any sense. I can't go into details, but it does worry me a lot and I feel very helpless.

    I don't find this parenting lark easy...!

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    Posted by puzzler76 (U3733897) on Tuesday, 26th October 2010

    Warm thought from here for both ana and Lost. Wishing you both strength in what you're dealing with.

    Me, I'm arfa pound down this week, and pleased with that as food choices have not been as wise as they should have been.

    Puzzlerette is back to school this week which helps. I need the routine, I think.

    OH is doing very well. He had a sort of slowing down drinking at the beginning of last week as we used up what we'd got, nothing Thursday or Friday and on Saturday we shared a bottle of 5.5% perry which was the last alcohol in the back of the cupboard. He nearly went to the shop on Sunday afternoon but Didn't, which made me very proud of him. Sorry, I know this probably isn't the best thread for this but to be honest, I'm sneaking it in here because if I posted in the dedicated alcohol threads OH would be highly likely to notice and might be miffed.

    KOKO everyone, here's to a day of good choices - let's be kind to both body and mind.

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    Posted by Fire-Pig - proud to wave the protest banner (U12231213) on Tuesday, 26th October 2010

    Oh Lost, all the warm thoughts I can send will be with you. We think when we have tinies that parenting is difficult, all that checking the little being is still breathing etc (EP was a sleeper, and slept through the night unnaturally early - so Mum just had to go to stand over him and watch that breathing). In our experience, parenting has been far more difficult once they left school - and still is now they are in their 30s.

    Arching, sorry you are missing your walks, I'm not sure I'll get one today looking out of the window it is tipping it down. You must also be weighted down by the present complications of your life.

    Well done Mr Puzzler for not buying the alcohol, does he look into ML? I don't think I could cope with that with mine!

    I've just had my first porridge of the season - very good it was too!

    Loved Puzzler's ending so I'll blatantly copy it!

    <<>>

    F-P

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  • Message 26

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    Posted by Miftrefs Laura in Lothian bufily ftitching (U2587870) on Tuesday, 26th October 2010

    Tue, 26 Oct 2010 07:43 GMT, in reply to puzzler76 in message 24

    Gosh, everyone.


    There's quite often a feeling of a 'theme' running through a week of MFC and I reckon just now the 'theme' is Food & Relationships... how our eating changes, or doesn't, in response to other people, be they partners or spouses, parents or children, neighbours or colleagues...


    puzzler, wherever you feel best able to post, imo, is where you should post!


    I try not to bring in too many parallels from other threads, because I think MFC has almost as many reasons as it does posters, plus all the lurkers [wave, wave to Intrepid Lady Geepster, hope you're doing well!], but this one I think I'm using a lot just now:

    - the idea, borrowed from Al-Anon, that...

    ...I cannot control someone else's harmful behaviour...

    ...I do not cause someone else's harmful behaviour and

    ...only they can change their behaviour for the better - I cannot 'cure' them.

    What I *can* have some say in, is how I respond to other people's behaviour. I can choose to respond without care for myself, in ways that are not good for me either emotionally or physically, or I can choose to respond with rational forethought and with care for myself.

    Huuuuge concepts for this time on a wild and stormy morning, if you ask me, but they are really useful things, I think. Especially if you are dealing with some of the bluddy great big huge things that some MFCers currently are.

    Eating healthily is easy when it's a lovely mild evening in early summer and it's the weekend and everything's going nicely and there are salads and fruit in the garden, and all the rest of the Healthy Eating image!

    What isn't so easy is how to eat healthily and look after ourselves when those we love are calling out for help, or are causing us harm, or are making more empty promises, or are behaving in ways they surely must be able to see are harming them, and it's cold outside, and it's grey, and it's raining and blustery and it feels like we'll never see sunshine again, and all our warm clothes are ugly and horrible and we look ugly and horrible in them but then we look ugly and horrible in anything because we /are/ ugly and horrible and what's the point and where's the chocolate/ cheese/ cherry vodka [del. as applic.]?


    So... if ever there was a time to come in here, as many times a day as necessary, to post about feelings, to post about whatever you need to post about, then this is our time.


    Now.... Norland Nanny Laura says: drink a glass of water, everyone, now. Plan supper before lunchtime. Do what you can, but don't beat yourself up too badly. And do as I say, not as I do!!! smiley - smiley


    KOKO - all for one and one for all, the Umpteen Musketeers!


    laura

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  • Message 27

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    Posted by LostInML (U13646691) on Tuesday, 26th October 2010

    Thank you so much for understanding. Laura, your post made me cry (don't worry... it doesn't take much to make me cry right now... worry does that to me...)

    And, Fire-Pig, if I'm honest, I thought parenting was hard when my son was little and awkward (!), but it's a hundred times harder now that he is strong-willed, determined and no longer under my direct control!

    I so agree that it's easy to be wise and eat healthily when all is going well, but on a cold, wet, blustery day like today when I have so much work to do from home (including dreaded housework) and my heart is so heavy... that's harder. I have come to the place where I know food cannot ever be the consoldation I seek. (It just adds to my problems and doesn't even solve the short-term ones!)

    Well done, Puzzler, to your OH and please feel free to post here too. I don't mind cross-threading and I don't even feel it's off topic, actually, since how our families are greatly affects how we are.

    Off to tackle the ironing with the reward of a cup of real coffee afterwards. Got to take the day in little steps today!

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    Posted by archingmad (U8292055) on Tuesday, 26th October 2010

    Heavy stuff for this hour of the day - I usually do my deep, reflective thinking in the dark hours of the night. But I have often wondered, but been too scared to incur the wrath of Mustardland, whether MLers are inherently needy people with RL problems. Is this why we started listening to TA in the first place? To escape the unlpleasant realities in our own lives? Do we turn to ML to share the problems we are unable to in RL?

    Maybe too heavy for this thread, but it does, I agree with Laura, have a huge influence on our eating patterns, too.

    As for parenting, was there anything more stressful (apart from being a wife/child of aging parents/selling your home/fill in your own particular stress trigger ....)? F-P, I too remember standing at the cot of prematurely born daughter with a mirror held to her nostrils to see if it misted up, unsure of whether she was breathing or not! Fast forward to my forehead being stuck to frozen window pane at 3 am waiting for her return .. from the pictures!! No wonder my intestines are up the creek. (Yeeeurgh - horrid metaphor) All I can say, Lost, is *this too shall pass* - till another worry comes along. There are rays of sunshine in between, though. How could we carry on otherwise?

    Good Luck, too, to puzzler with the hurdle she is surmounting currently. You are all such empathetic people, it warms my heart to be involved with you and your lives, however cyberly (have I coined a new word?).

    I'm off for MY first bowl of porridge of the season. I got the package out before coming on line, so *snap*. Hoping to eat something to calm my nervy tummy.

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    Posted by LostInML (U13646691) on Tuesday, 26th October 2010

    /But I have often wondered, but been too scared to incur the wrath of Mustardland, whether MLers are inherently needy people with RL problems./

    Yes, I think this is fair comment. But only because we are people. I think all people are inherently needy people with RL problems. I don't think applies only to ML!

    /Is this why we started listening to TA in the first place? To escape the unlpleasant realities in our own lives? /

    Yes, I think to some extent all 'entertainment', be it through films, TV or the radio or internet, is a form of escapism. It's easier to look at (and solve) other people's problems than our own.

    /Do we turn to ML to share the problems we are unable to in RL?/

    I think this depends. I am sharing my RL problems with RL friends as well as here. But I do think sometimes it's easier to talk to people via the medium of the written word than it is face-to-face. I have /always/ found communication easiest via the written word, so suspect that my refuge here is, in some respects, inevitable. Not everyone is this way. I find writing things down helps me to clarify my thoughts. I always write. It's a refuge for me. It helps to have replies, though.

    Yes, I know 'this too shall pass.' Somewhere deep in the core is a serenity that I rarely feel works its way to the surface. I suppose I find that writing about these things helps me to shed the non-essentials and get to that core.

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    Posted by Sister Primrose of the Red Tinsel Flag (U5405579) on Tuesday, 26th October 2010

    Lots of food for thought this thread, I'm running out to work in 10 mins so will have a chunter and come back to the thinky stuff later.

    Got weighed, very slightly down (2oz) from my weight the week before last. As I didn't get weighed last week so as not to dishearten myself on the face of a week of bad choices around anniversaries and social events I am pleased.

    My hospital cardiac appointment is 3 days before Xmas, so it's not a little black dress that's motivating me at the moment. I would love to be in a healthier BMI zone by then. Course, if that meant a LBD was a possibility I wouldn't complain smiley - smiley

    KOKO

    PP

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    Posted by LostInML (U13646691) on Tuesday, 26th October 2010

    I must admit, I'd quite like a new LBD too. Well, it doesn't have to be that little, actually: just a new dress for Christmas might be nice. smiley - smiley

    I am going to a wedding in early December, so I suppose a new outfit for that would work as an incentive.

    My problem is not only lack of money for all the LBDs and other outfits I would like, but the sheer practical necessity of buying some warm boots that will get me through a rough winter instead. When you have calves that never get thinner no matter what happens to the rest of the body, that is not as easy as it sounds.

    I have a clear mental image of these boots. They are black, furry inside, with good grip on the outside, not high heeled, and could be worn all day, not just to travel in. They will take lots of walking (trip to Brussels planned for post-Christmas, pre-New Year) and will go with absolutely any outfit I choose to wear, be it casual, smart or downright elegant.

    If any of you know where these boots are lurking, I'd appreciate you telling me!

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    Posted by LostInML (U13646691) on Tuesday, 26th October 2010

    Oh, and they're not too expensive either, despite their 'wonder boots' quality! smiley - smiley

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    Posted by The_wincing_lute (U14603861) on Tuesday, 26th October 2010

    Hi Lost
    Sorry to butt in, just wondering if these might fit the bill.

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    Posted by LostInML (U13646691) on Tuesday, 26th October 2010

    They look great, if a bit pricey for me, but I suspect the key would be the calf problem. I'd need to try them on to see.

    The last time I tried to buy boots like that (as opposed to ankle type boots), the shop assistant stared at me and said they had nothing at all that would fit me. She made me feel stupid for even asking.

    I felt condemned totally for having large calves. As I say, I've lost weight since then, but you wouldn't know it by looking at my legs.

    Welcome here, anyway, wincing lute! Love the name! And you're not butting in at all; you're trying to solve my boots' problem which right now is DIRECTLY linked to how I feel about myself!

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    Posted by GEm (U4356909) on Tuesday, 26th October 2010

    Lost

    Have you had a look at Duo boots? they come in individual calf width sizes and you can order them on line. You do your own measuring and then they are delivered. They are a expensive because they are good quality leather but I have just got mine out for the FOURTH year running and they still look fab even though I wear them almost daily from about now to end of March as I loathe tights/stockings. I have them soled and heeled regularly and give them a polish and we are good to go for another year. I reckon on a cost per wear they are down to less than a penny a go now. If you look at your boots that way then you could afford to as my husband says buy good, buy less.

    G

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    Posted by LostInML (U13646691) on Tuesday, 26th October 2010

    I was sure you'd know something, GEm, since you have talked about this problem before.

    I'm taking deep breaths over the price, but I guess I always knew this was the reason LBDs and so on weren't going to be an options. I always knew it would be an either/ or choice...

    At some point I will measure said calves. Not sure I want to do that yet for fear it might depress me, but I will have to bite the bullet at some point.

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    Posted by The_wincing_lute (U14603861) on Tuesday, 26th October 2010

    Thank you Lost! I have been reading this thread a lot with much thought and recognition. However at the moment I am up the duff for the first time and am feeling healthier than I ever have in the past - my body is being very firm about what it wants and what it doesn't and I am listening to it for the first time in my life. Sorry that sounds rather twee but I can't think of any other way to say it!

    There is always Duo boots in Bath who do specialised calf measurements but I think they are even more pricey. The caterpillar ones looked quite flexible at the top - I think it's worth trying lots of different styles. Although none from shops with horrible shop assistants, of course.

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    Posted by boo decker (U10848648) on Tuesday, 26th October 2010

    I felt condemned totally for having large calves. 

    I can relate to this! I have calves of steel! A combination of ballet and horse riding as a child has left me with enormous calves, even as a child I couldn't get full length boots to fit me.

    I'm about to order the short fit flop boots but I love the look of the ones on the link posted by wincing loot. GEm I shall investigate the Duo boots as well. I could never get decent biker boots either in my rebel days. I never rode but was pillion...... oh to be able to get back into my leathers!

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    Posted by LostInML (U13646691) on Tuesday, 26th October 2010

    I might no longer feel I have to follow my family (see previous threads for discussion of females all being overweight and my reasoning that this was therefore my destiny), but I have to say that the calves issue does appear to have some basis in genetics!

    I will try to get on with work now, but those boots are very distracting!

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    Posted by GuzziNut (U6364582) on Tuesday, 26th October 2010

    whithering shop assistants, maybe the raised eyebrows and "have you tried the childrens' dept?" that comes with having small feet territory will raise a smile on a grey day.

    Lost, hope you find the boots

    now if they would only make proper lace up caterpillar boots (not girly ones, I'm not good at girly) below a size six I'd be happy. My old set are heading for resoling for the third time

    *wanders off to refill pint pot of water*

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    Posted by LostInML (U13646691) on Tuesday, 26th October 2010

    Wish I'd known about Duo boots in Bath when I was in Bath this summer. That would have solved all my problems, eh? I could have tried them on to my heart's content after I'd been to the spa, recommended by Ana. It would have been a real ML trip then!

    Sadly, I'm not likely to get back to Bath before Christmas...

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    Posted by GEm (U4356909) on Tuesday, 26th October 2010

    Larger calves aren't necessarily a sign of being overweight. Mine are relatively large in relation to the rest of me because of all the sports that I do and did as a child that build the muscles up. I can get into ordinary boots but I couldn't tuck jeans in for example which is why I went to duo. They have a mix of styles - and they do mail order so you can order and try on at home.

    For bikers with larger calves lady Daytona's have velcro so you can make them bigger or smaller depending on your calves. I bought some because they come with a built in wedge heel (invaluable for reaching the floor!) and I love the fact I can adjust my boots so they still fit snugly under OR over my bike trousers/draggin jeans/leathers.

    G

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    Posted by GuzziNut (U6364582) on Tuesday, 26th October 2010

    Oh yes, Daytona boots rock smiley - smiley they are waterproof and even go down to my foot size

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    Posted by Auntie Prue (U14585893) on Tuesday, 26th October 2010

    Hiya - back again - suntanned and a few pounds heavier - but we had a wonderful time on our Spanish cruise.

    Sangria and Tapas - and exploring little back streets in places such as Mahon in Mennorca, and Alicante in Valencia. Wonderful company on board. Drank far more than is good for me - on the wagon now for a few days to detox!




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    Posted by LostInML (U13646691) on Tuesday, 26th October 2010

    Sounds great!

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    Posted by Miftrefs Laura in Lothian bufily ftitching (U2587870) on Tuesday, 26th October 2010

    Tue, 26 Oct 2010 14:18 GMT, in reply to sparkleering in message 44

    Surely an orange or three in Velancia - so that's healthy! smiley - smiley

    Welcome home, sparkleering...


    I've made a mixture of choices thus far today, but that's better than only making bad ones, so I'm not beating myself up.


    Just past 3pm - time for another round of synchronised swigging?


    Ready? Get your glass filled... aaaand... SWIG!!

    laura

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    Posted by LostInML (U13646691) on Tuesday, 26th October 2010

    Like the idea of synchronised swigging! Does it have to be water?

    Good choices so far today. But since I'm chained to the computer and there's very little in the cupboards or fridge, perhaps that's nothing to boast about.

    Casserole is cooking very slowly in the oven and keeping me warm!

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    Posted by Westsussexbird or Birdy aka Westie (U6316532) on Tuesday, 26th October 2010

    Hello wincing lute and a big welcome to the thread. Shove up everyone ...... :0)

    Welcome home Sparkers ... I'm glad you had a good time.

    I agree that this thread is for what ever anyone wants to say as if the sea is choppy and the old boat rocking then it's lovely to have cyber chums to share it with. I don't look on it as instead of real life but a wonderful supplement to it. How lucky are we? :0)

    Could I ask you peeps to have a look at the Rota Thread and pop your names down to begin a new thread on Monday night or Tuesday morning. Here's the link. Thanks :0)





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    Posted by Westsussexbird or Birdy aka Westie (U6316532) on Tuesday, 26th October 2010





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    Posted by Auntie Prue (U14585893) on Tuesday, 26th October 2010

    Oh thanks so much for the pics, Birdy.

    A lovely place, called Mahon by the Spanish - but its Catalonian name is Mao (from where we get Mayonaise - of which we try not to eat too much around here!).

    We discovered a delightful park in the middle of the town - a good place to rest after climbing the many steps up from the quayside into the town.

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