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  • Message 1. 

    Posted by LostInML (U13646691) on Tuesday, 25th January 2011

    It's Tuesday and I've realised it's time to start the new thread for MFC this week! Welcome to everyone - this is the place where we discuss all sorts of things relating to the way we eat for a healthy lifestyle. Many of us are trying to lose weight, many are happy with their weight but finding it tricky to maintain it at a healthy level and many more are not concerned about weight at all but want to eat healthily in order to feel good in themselves.

    Our only 'rule' is that we don't talk about real weights and sizes as we don't want to discourage anyone or make anyone feel bad about their size. We aim instead to be supportive and to help each other find individual ways of living healthily. One size generally won't fit all, so feel free to explore the best methods for you as an individual!

    Related threads that may be of interest are also in the Village Hall:
    GEm's gym, for exercise encouragement and advice


    Katy's Cookbook, since healthy eating doesn't mean boring eating!


    The Rota thread, where we volunteer to open up a new thread each week so as not to swamp the system with all our chatter!


    Apparently the World Health Organisation said in 1948, "Health is a state of complete physical, mental and social well-being, and not merely the absence of disease or infirmity." Healthy living is about more than BMI and faddy diets; this is the place where we really do discuss physical, mental and social well-being as well as healthy eating, so do come in and join the discussions!

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    Posted by Westsussexbird or Birdy aka Westie (U6316532) on Tuesday, 25th January 2011

    Thanks for opening up Lost :0) I'm having a good week and have been swimming to help my post op knee. I'm due to see the surgeon again today so hope to get permission to go walking on rough ground/woodland again.

    Before I forget, Guzzinut asked for the notes my husband made on cholesterol and eating to help reduce cholesterol. The link is at message 49 of last week's thread. But I'll post it agaiin here.

    I would point out that we are not dieticians but hope it is helpful to share what we discovered.

    Since this was written I have found Gillian Riley's 'Eat Less Say Goodbye to Overeating' very helpful. It's not a book to scamper through as you really need to consider and ponder what she suggests.


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    Posted by GuzziNut (U6364582) on Tuesday, 25th January 2011

    sorry birdy ment to say thanx but forgot, which is really very rude of me! slapped wrist

    I read the info, very interesting, and think a copy of that little book needs to make its way into the kitchen, as its small, factual and reference-y I think the Bloke will look at it

    well done on the swimming by the way and good luck with the surgeon smiley - smiley

    thanx for opening up Lost, go tell that boss what you think

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    Posted by Katy Tulip (U2239809) on Tuesday, 25th January 2011

    Hullo you two (I'll get my pinny...)

    Just a wave and hope all have a good week.

    Koko,

    smiley - smiley Katy

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    Posted by Sister Primrose of the Red Tinsel Flag (U5405579) on Tuesday, 25th January 2011

    Morning all and thanks to LIML for opening up.

    Birdy, I hope you get your permission to go stalking the lesser spotted tree warbler through the wilds of West Sussex, up hill and down dale and through your lady's chamber...

    Guzzi, are we talking about the spotty book? It's currently living in my handbag whilst I get my head round what can be on the menu, very useful.

    Katy :0)

    As for me, I've lost another pound, so another step closer to a sensible BMI. Tuesday is a bit of a difficult day for me food wise as I work from 12 till 4 with an hour on the bus at each end, and I don't like eating on the bus. I've just had a scrambled egg with some home made wholemeal bread - very dense so one slice is very filling - and am going to go and put together a nibbly picnic to eat just before the clinic and, if neccessary, pop out of the clinic to top up on. Hopefully that'll do the trick and I won't be famished when I finish.

    PP

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    Posted by GuzziNut (U6364582) on Tuesday, 25th January 2011

    spotty book smiley - smiley thats the one PP

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    Posted by Westsussexbird or Birdy aka Westie (U6316532) on Tuesday, 25th January 2011

    Don't slap your wrist Guzzi .. I just thought it was easier to repost (while I remembered) rather than keep an eye out for you :0)


    Wave to Katy hiding behind her pinny, and well done Primrose and thanks for your good wishes ... :0)

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    Posted by kittismum (U2266865) on Tuesday, 25th January 2011

    Hi all, my terrible eating habits have grown on me slowly over the years, I used to be my Parents main carer and what with the Children as well I found myself missing meals if I didn't have time to eat them. Also because of financial problems I used to go without dinner so the Children could have enough - I know that sounds very dramatic, but things were really that bad, they are a bit better now, although with 2 adult Children back living with us things are still tight. My OH and I hope to be moving some time this year to a property more suited to his mobility needs so there will only be the 2 of us to worry about.
    I have just had half a cornish pastie, not healthy I know but at least it's something. I am going to try a smoothie in the morning, I have a yogurt maker and have found some frozen berries in the freezer - along with a rather mankey banana in the fruit bowl that should be ok shouldn't it? I wondered if I could add other things to it to prehaps make it last longer. Also If I cannot stomach it could I take it out with me for later on? I'm not sure if it would keep tho. I'm so glad I posted and am looking forward to eating properly again. Wish me luck and thanks for all your help. Gwen x

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    Posted by Westsussexbird or Birdy aka Westie (U6316532) on Tuesday, 25th January 2011

    The very best of luck to you Gwen :0)) We're all cheering you on and hope you will find your enjoyment of food returns.

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    Posted by GEm (U4356909) on Tuesday, 25th January 2011

    Good for you Gwen. Yes your banana will be fine - in fact the riper the better. I think you can add oats to smoothies as well to pad them out a bit. I just bung anything in the fruit bowl in together with any left over creme fraiche too which makes it REALLY creamy. You could add some honey if you'd like to sweeten it a bit or if you like it peanut butter. Yes of course you can carry it with you (get one of those insulated cups if you can or a flask to keep it cool in warmer weather but at the moment it'll be fine).

    Half a cornish pasty is a good start - how about the rest as an afternoon snack? Could you bake a few scones or cakes and have that with a mug of hot chocolate made with full fat milk for afternoon tea?

    Really proud of you for giving it a try.

    When you're a bit more used to eating you could do Weetabix and yogurt or porridge oats with fruit and honey and Greek Yogurt for breakfast. All are yummy and quite light but filling.

    Could you make up a big pot of soup with whatever veg is in season and thrown in some pasta or potato to bulk it out a bit. I made celeriac and apple soup yesterday (two apples and one small celeriac, one chopped onion, a dash of curry powder and some water boiled up then run through the blender). Makes a really thick soup which you can thin down with a bit of hot water or veg stock and does for about 6 portions with some crusty bread. You could always stir in some yogurt or cream or creme fraiche to add a few calories.

    Butternut squash soup - onions, BNS, tomatoes, chilli powder (or fresh chillis). Boil and blend, again add water or veg stock to make thinner soup to serve and again you can add cream or whatever

    Parsnip and lentil soup - parsnips, lentils, veg stock, onions. Boil, blend pass through sieve. Add more stock to serve and again cream if you want it

    Would you eat pasta? I can come up with some quick and easy pasta sauces?

    I did baked BNS last evening which was really nice. For 2 - cut a BNS in half, remove seeds and hollow out a bit of the flesh, drizzle with oil and bake in the oven for 45 mins on 190C. At the same time cut up the BNS flesh and some veg into small pieces, red onion courgette, aubergine, carrot, celeriac etc (whatever you have in the veg basket) drizzle with oil and cook along side the BNS. Remove from oven and mix veg with some fresh thyme and fill the caivty of the BNS. Scatter with some grated cheese, top with halloumi or goats cheese crumbled and bake in the oven again for about 20 mins. Eat the lot including the skin. Sit back stuffed!

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    Posted by GuzziNut (U6364582) on Tuesday, 25th January 2011

    I'll second the "whats in the fridge that needs using" soup plan, we eat a lot of that here in the guzzinuthut

    The Tunisian one I made at the weekend was good

    But I now have over half a cabbage leering at me in then fridge, not a fan of cabbage but I had my "authentic" head on

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    Posted by anagramladysin (U14258840) on Tuesday, 25th January 2011

    Mmmm Guzzinut, buttered cabbage with caraway seeds (or cumin seeds if you haven't got caraway?)

    Gwen glad you're here. By the by, bananas can be kept in the freezer and then the skin goes black but they make ace banana milk shakes. Just peel, snap into bits and blend with milk. Add other fruits or chocolate. My boys used to love this and it's pretty healthy. Me, I can't digest milk so it's not for me.

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    Posted by LostInML (U13646691) on Tuesday, 25th January 2011

    Cabbage in soup can be quite nice. I don't like all cabbage, but can stomach it in soup. It's weird, actually, as I like red cabbage raw and cooked and can eat white cabbage in coleslaw, but don't like spring cabbage unless it's in soup...

    Another busy day at work....but food wise I have done fairly well today. I bought some cherries for my treat! - I adore cherries and they were not too expensive today!

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    Posted by GuzziNut (U6364582) on Tuesday, 25th January 2011

    I found that I don't mind white cabbage in soup as well lost, but otherwise will eat it under duress if cooked, quite like red cooked properly. I have a pasta thing with peanut butter that will use some of it

    Oddly I cant bare over ripe 'nanas, even in a smoothie

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    Posted by LostInML (U13646691) on Tuesday, 25th January 2011

    I was warned off smoothies, being diabetic, as they are concentrated fruit and can therefore be quite high in sugar, but for most people they're a great way of getting nutrients, especially if you don't really like fruit.

    I like red cabbage cooked really slowly in pomegranate juice/ water. But cabbage is one of the few vegetables I don't really like that much.

    Off to put my chicken casserole in the oven now! - yay, food time!

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    Posted by Sister Primrose of the Red Tinsel Flag (U5405579) on Tuesday, 25th January 2011

    Here's a nice soup recipe using cabbage. Chop one onion, dice one carrot, chop 3 sticks celery, put all into 3 pints stock (I love Marigold Bouillon) and bring to the boil for 10 mins. Add a large peeled and diced potato, about 8 oz runner beans sliced across the way and half a green cabbage, sliced and diced. I tend to use savoy but I'm sure any greens would do. Boil for a further 10 mins then stir in a tin of white beans (like canelini, or at a pinch, butter) and two or three tablespoons of good pesto - try and scoop it from the bottom of the jar so there's less oil. Heat till beans are hot and serve with good bread.

    Nom nom nom...

    Also nice whizzed if you've got finickity eaters at the table, stops the so and sos picking the veggies out :0)

    PP

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    Posted by Westsussexbird or Birdy aka Westie (U6316532) on Tuesday, 25th January 2011

    Good News: I'm back on course to really shift the weight I've put on since I hurt my knee ... the consultant confirmed that there is wear and tear in the knee and he removed fragments of loose cartilage and hopes the knee will last for about five years if I keep it well exercised, and then he can line it and hope to keep me mobile without major intervention for a good long time.

    He was glad of all I've been doing trying to straighten it and bend it.. He said I can go on my Crosstrainer which has lightened my heart as it is the nearest thing I can do to running ... I used to love running. I've just been on it for five minutes ... I wasn't able to bend my knee enough to go on it before I went to the physiotherapist post op, so I'm really rather proud of myself.

    SO everyone ... keep moving and walking and exercising. I have put on over a stone from all the sitting around with my leg up that I've had to do in the months since I damaged my knee.

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    Posted by LostInML (U13646691) on Tuesday, 25th January 2011

    At least you've got the all clear on exercise, though, Birdy. And it's good to hear you so upbeat and positive.

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    Posted by Fire-Pig - proud to wave the protest banner (U12231213) on Tuesday, 25th January 2011

    I was sure I had posted here this morning, but can't see it now!

    I tried a new risotto recipe tonight with salad. OH did NOT appreciate it, although it was his idea I tried it. Sometimes he qualifies for Grumpy Old Man. I thought it was OK, probably not worth the effort but definitely edible! It is almost enough to turn a girl to chocolate!

    Glad to read your surgeon is happy Birdy, What is lining a knee? How is the other knee?

    F-P

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    Posted by Westsussexbird or Birdy aka Westie (U6316532) on Tuesday, 25th January 2011

    Thanks Lost. The best thing I can do is lose this weight ... it cannot be helping.

    Apart from which, I bought trousers that I can't get in now! I hurt my other knee stepping out of the kitchen door in May 2009, it had just got completely better when I did the other knee in stepping up into our camper!

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    Posted by Westsussexbird or Birdy aka Westie (U6316532) on Tuesday, 25th January 2011

    Thanks Fire Pig :0))

    They paint a hard wearing substance inside the knee joint .... it could be plastic .... replacing worn cartilage. If my other knee hadn't improved on its own I was going to have it done to that knee. I kept hoping this knee would get better but it just stayed inflamed ... now we know why.

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    Posted by anagramladysin (U14258840) on Tuesday, 25th January 2011

    Oh Birdy, good news and I am so glad.
    And as you know and (I think?) often tell us, weight gained rapidly can be lost quickly too ... so that extra stone (yours and mine both) is on its way out.
    xx ana

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    Posted by Westsussexbird or Birdy aka Westie (U6316532) on Tuesday, 25th January 2011

    Thanks for the encouragement Ana .... I'll keep a food diary tomorrow.

    I'm sitting with my leg up straight and weights forcing my knee to go straight. If any of you cannot straighten your knees completely consider getting advice as I believe it can lead to problems later on.

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    Posted by anagramladysin (U14258840) on Tuesday, 25th January 2011

    Hi peeps
    I need your advice.
    I am "allowed" to eat "Quark".
    Ugh.
    Is there any way of using this that makes it taste all right?
    xx ana

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    Posted by Sister Primrose of the Red Tinsel Flag (U5405579) on Tuesday, 25th January 2011

    If you're eating it on bread or crackers, lots of salt and black pepper or Maggi Wurze, available from all good supermarkets...



    Or, on scones with jam.

    PP

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  • Message 26

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    Posted by puzzler76 (U3733897) on Wednesday, 26th January 2011

    Didn't get a chance to post yesterday but I've lost another 0.75lb this week. I'm loving all the walking I can do these days, all I need to do now is eat more sensibly...

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  • Message 27

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    Posted by careen (U1935190) on Wednesday, 26th January 2011

    Hi all. I was up two pounds and then down one, so I will celebrate the down one. Inspired by swimming talk here I found my cossie and went to the over 50s swimming session. Also I'm going to try and get people I know to go to this as well - this will make me more likely to go to it.

    I had to look up quark as Id never heard of it.. Is it nice? I would like a change from cottage cheese which I buy then chuck because I forget to eat it.,

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    Posted by Westsussexbird or Birdy aka Westie (U6316532) on Wednesday, 26th January 2011

    Well done Puzzler :0)) What are you making of the free time you have now? I found it most peculiar to begin with.

    Careen ... at our pool you buy ten visits and they give you two for free and I think this is a huge incentive to keep going. The staff there are very nice too. Did I mention that I had bought some goggles and ear plugs and they are a big help. I'm not to do breaststroke as it isn't very good for joints, so am gradually getting further and futher doing crawl. Only half way along the pool so far though.

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    Posted by GuzziNut (U6364582) on Wednesday, 26th January 2011

    quark, well there are worse things out there, like pepperami or totally veggie cheese *shudder*

    I have used it as a subsitite for sour cream in Mexican dishes / others that call for it
    the more solid sorts are good with black pepper, or added to pasta with garlic and basil, tomatoes etc
    or, (looking at wiki) get into eastern European cooking smiley - smiley

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  • Message 30

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    Posted by LostInML (U13646691) on Wednesday, 26th January 2011

    Glad to know I've inspired someone in some way, Careen! Hope you enjoy your swimming sessions. I've noticed it's busier in the mornings - post-Christmas determination, I suspect. Having a goal with this sponsored swim is making me feel a bit more motivated at the moment, which is necessary to keep momentum going.

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    Posted by Westsussexbird or Birdy aka Westie (U6316532) on Wednesday, 26th January 2011

    OK everyone ... how has your day been?

    This may not sound like a good day but it has been a really tasty and delicious day and I have only eaten what I decided I was going to eat, so it has been planned and the first stage of getting back to a proper reducing healthy way of eating. MrB is away at the weekend for ten days so it will give me another chance to only eat what I want .. but in the meantime we are enjoying eating together.

    So:

    2Wbix and sprinkle of sugar and milk
    1 banana
    We had lunch at Strada and I had
    Risotto with mushrooms ... delicioius
    We shared a anti pasti misti so I had a small piece of toasted bread soaked in olive oil
    1 small bit of parma ham, so thin you could see through it
    1 peperoni slice
    1 mozzarella slice (never much cop I don't think)
    2 olives
    1 slice of tomato and 3 bay leaves
    drizzle of olive oil

    Cinema
    2 bars of a kitkat to go with our coffee.

    This evening
    1 small jacket potato
    mince, carrot, peas and courgette

    1 small piece of panforte

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    Posted by kittismum (U2266865) on Wednesday, 26th January 2011

    I made a smoothie this morning with yogurt,2 teaspoons oats, froz blueberries,froz strawberries,walnuts,seeds,honey,milk and 3 v.small very ripe bananas. drunk about 1/2 a cup and couldn't manage anymore but was over the moon having eaten something. I have made a start whoopie!!
    My question is this: could I have saved the leftover smoothie and if so how and for how long. Thanks for your help. Gwen x

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    Posted by Westsussexbird or Birdy aka Westie (U6316532) on Wednesday, 26th January 2011

    Well done Gwen :0))

    Possibly to make more than you want and see how it seems a few hours later? But, if half a cup seems the right amount for you I would suggest you make that amount each time you want one. These things are often best when just made, especially I would think with nuts and oats.

    I think there is a lot of pleasure in preparing food, and sitting down to enjoy it. :0))

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    Posted by anagramladysin (U14258840) on Wednesday, 26th January 2011

    Good for Gwen! And did you feel any better during the day for having had some breakfast?

    Thanks for your tips about Quark, everyone. Once I am back on the Nairns I shall try it as you suggest, but I'll also look up some of those foreign recipes.

    Have lost ten pounds now, since I started ....

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    Posted by Westsussexbird or Birdy aka Westie (U6316532) on Wednesday, 26th January 2011

    Well done Ana :0))

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    Posted by Fire-Pig - proud to wave the protest banner (U12231213) on Friday, 28th January 2011

    On Wednesday I had an unexpected lunch with a friend. I thought I would be catching the 12 noon bus home, but I didn't check the timetable properly, and was waiting outside T****s when the bus took a different route Grrr! Next bus 1 o'clock. I needed to eat before then and went into a nice place, a friend and her husband came in and we sat together.

    My friend lost a lot of weight before I met her 14 years ago and still attends and helps to lead Weight Watchers. We had an interesting talk, she has been very supportive as I have lost weight. She said "I don't think your head is in quite the right place for losing at the moment, just try not to overeat and later you will be back to losing, don't force yourself"

    I have pondered whether to post this here or not, but it may help someone else whose head is not in quite the right place!

    F-P

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    Posted by Westsussexbird or Birdy aka Westie (U6316532) on Friday, 28th January 2011

    Fire Pig, I really agree with the idea that something in our brains seems to click into gear at the right time. In the meantime, eat as well as you can and try to maintain your weight ... all good practice for when you eventually get to the weight you want to maintain. Whatever you do, don't panic.

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    Posted by Westsussexbird or Birdy aka Westie (U6316532) on Saturday, 29th January 2011

    I hope everyone has a good weekend.

    Ana, how are you doing on your new 'diet' .... Mr Birdy is away for ten days and so it is giving me another chance to choose what I eat and when.

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    Posted by LostInML (U13646691) on Saturday, 29th January 2011

    Good to hear people are doing quite well. Don't think my head is ever in the right place!!

    Had a lovely salad for a meal out yesterday... Off to try to improve my Swimathon swimming today. I feel quite positive about that, so am trying to build up momentum and strength at the same time!

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    Posted by Westsussexbird or Birdy aka Westie (U6316532) on Saturday, 29th January 2011

    Well done Lost .... I'm going swimming today as well .... low impact exercise dontchaknow :0))

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    Posted by maria_sedgegrass (U2267184) on Saturday, 29th January 2011

    This "head in the right place" business is an interesting one. I think it's certainly sometimes true that we have so much going on in our lives that is using our energy and attention that there is no room left over for the commitment and planning that losing weight (as opposed to eating heathily) involves. On the other hand, I was managing to lose weight slowly and carefully before Christmas and just haven't been able to get back on the wagon since. Lots of "stuff" has been going on and part of me wants to clutch at the "head in the right place", but it actually feels much more like an addictive reaction to food - particularly sugar and carbs in general. I hadn't given either of them up before, was just eating them in modest amounts, but now I'm craving them and eating them in ridiculous quantities. I'm also feeling quite low in spirits, and I'm beginning to wonder if it is linked to my over consumption of starchy food. At the moment I'm starting each day with a resolution that this will be the day I eat sensibly and it's beginning to feel a bit hollow.

    Hey ho, February around the corner, pick myself up and start all over again (again)

    M xxx

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    Posted by LostInML (U13646691) on Saturday, 29th January 2011

    Maria, so much of what you say resonates with me. I do think we can have addictive reactions to food and when that happens, sometimes we have to take drastic actions. Feeling low in spirits is often connected, especially if we start to feel guilty over what we are eating because we /know/ ultimately it's not doing us any good.

    We do have to take things one day at a time. I don't feel I will ever be able to treat food as my husband does, for example. He doesn't have my hang-ups, enjoys food, knows when to stop eating, rarely eats for the wrong reasons (eg as consolation, 'comfort', to divert him from other things etc.) and is therefore much healthier in attitudes than I am. Don't feel that your resolution is hollow because you don't always succeed. Better to make that resolution on a daily basis than to throw the towel in altogether. It's the same with exercise. You might not be able to do what you intended on one day, but you can still start afresh the next day.

    Have a good day today!

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    Posted by maria_sedgegrass (U2267184) on Saturday, 29th January 2011

    thank you, Lost. You have a good day too!

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    Posted by Auntie Prue (U14585893) on Saturday, 29th January 2011

    Me too! Only just begining to get back to normal after the Xmas fall from the wagon! It is so easy to lost all those good habits that were such hard work to establish in the first place.

    Also - I just wanted to apologise for not doing my share of opening the thread of late - until Easter I am very busy on Mondays and Tuesdays - but will do it again after Easter.

    Finally, report on the Slendertone.
    I have been using it for just a week . I use it every day - sometime twice if convenient. I have been gradually upping the intensity - but it is still not anywhere near max.

    I know myself! If it become unpleasant to use, I will find all kinds of excuses not to bother. At present it is comfortably tingly. I find I tend to use it in bed before going to sleep, while reading or watching TV.

    Cutting down on alcohol (which means none except when I meet my friend for lunch on Tuesday before WEA committee meeting.

    Evening pre meal drink is now slimline tonic with lemon.

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    Posted by Westsussexbird or Birdy aka Westie (U6316532) on Saturday, 29th January 2011

    Maria ... my husband has depression. I know that if I don't keep us eating quality regular meals (especially if it coincides with him bringing home "it was going cheap" goodies from Waitrose) then his mood is less good.

    I was quite tired the other day and he suggested we had fish and chips, and I said no, I'd cook as planned. After we'd had the meal he said he was glad as he often feels a bit bleugh after fish and chips.

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    Posted by Auntie Prue (U14585893) on Saturday, 29th January 2011

    Food and mood often do go hand in hand, Birdy.

    It is ironic that you have to be already feeliing good about yourself, in order to take measures to do yourself some good - if you follow what I mean.

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    Posted by Westsussexbird or Birdy aka Westie (U6316532) on Saturday, 29th January 2011

    Yes, I follow what you mean Sparkers. I feel sad for anyone with dodgy mental health who has to organise everything for themselves ... all MrB has to do is come and help lay the table and make appreciative noises.

    He is away in France on his own in the campervan for ten days and he will eat far more fatty food (croissants etc) than when he is at home ... he has been home for a week after his previous trip and I noticed he didn't want any sweet food at all ... I guess he'd has his fill while he was away.

    In a bowl on a shelf near the table he has a huge collection of little plastic pots with ... drum roll ... Nairns oatcakes, dried fruit and unsalted nuts!! :0))) I asked him if he wanted me to pop them in the van and he said yes ... so you never know, but I shant be entirely surprised if they are largely untouched! He has nuts and cranberries with beer.

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    Posted by maria_sedgegrass (U2267184) on Saturday, 29th January 2011

    Yes indeed, the being on an even keel before you can make changes thing does create an evil circle. I'm not actually depressed at the moment, though I have had a couple of mornings that have made me feel I could tip if I'm not careful. I know that if I can start eating well I will feel very good about myself which will start to lift my mood even if the reduced sugar loading effect takes a little longer to kick in. Not too bad today so far, though I have been eating homemade bread it's in sensible quantities. Tonight we're going to have liver and bacon because yesterday I made a foray to our newly-reopened independent butcher (yay!) and then we're going to the theatre so no opportunities to pick at rubbish in the kitchen.

    xx

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    Posted by Fire-Pig - proud to wave the protest banner (U12231213) on Saturday, 29th January 2011

    I don't think my friend's comment about having your head in the right place was meant to be a licence to over-indulge until it is there. I think it was that at the moment perhaps my priority should be the healthy eating until my head is in the right place again rather than on losing weight at the moment.

    Today we had our second ever Farmer's Market in our local town, from now on they will be every last Saturday of the month. Lots of meat, sausages, confectionery and jams, not as many vegetables as I had hoped. Amongst other things, I bought some purple carrots, and ordered mutton for next month!

    I am doing some de-cluttering in my cardmaking area, I am determined to get back to making them properly soon.

    KOKO one and all

    F-P

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    Posted by Westsussexbird or Birdy aka Westie (U6316532) on Saturday, 29th January 2011

    Well done Maria .... I had liver for my lunch. MrB eats it but he doesn't love it like I do.

    Wave to Fire Pig and I hope everyone else is managing to have a tasty weeekend.

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