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MFC Healthy Living - 1st February 2011
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Message 1.Â
Posted by Sister Primrose of the Red Tinsel Flag (U5405579) on Monday, 31st January 2011
White rabbits, white rabbits, white rabbits
Well, that got that out of the way good and early, I usually forget til lunchtime by which time it's too late...(Whaddya mean I'm four hours too early?)
Welcome one and all to this week's meeting of the MFC, originally the Mustardland Fat Club we're now more into accentuating the positive; we're fit, feisty and getting healthier.
Members of the MFC follow a variety of diferent regimes from the good old fashioned eat less and move more through to very structured diet plans. The aim of the club is to support and jolly each other along as we travel our chosen paths, offering suggestions, advice and encouragement.
We're very friendly, we only have one rule which is that we don't discuss our real life weights (though we can talk about pounds lost and stone zones, just not what the loss takes us to)
We have sister threads. If you're looking for advice on matters relating to exercise there's GEm's Gymn thread
If you're wanting some ideas for healthy recipes there's Katy's Cookbook thread
And last but not least, we take it in turns to push the Village Hall door open on a Monday evening or Tuesday morning, for the new weekly meet of the MFC and we're always looking for volunteers to do this. It's not hard or scary, so if you fancy a shot here's the rota
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There are some waves, for old friends, absent friends and lurkers alike. In you all come, here's to a Fabulously Fit February.
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Message 2
Posted by Westsussexbird or Birdy aka Westie (U6316532) on Monday, 31st January 2011
Thanks for opening up Primrose ... February already!
All is well at Birdy Towers, and I've just begun going swimming again and thoroughly enjoying it. If only you didn't have to get wet!
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Message 3
Posted by LostInML (U13646691) on Tuesday, 1st February 2011
Hi, everyone. I don't mind the getting wet with swimming, Birdy! It's the having to get dried again afterwards, quickly, and move on to the rest of the day that I find tiresome!
Not doing so well this week. Extra after school meetings.... eating later at night when I get in and then not wanting to stop eating... sort of a reaction to disruption in routines and a wrong attitude that 'if I've worked extra hard, I deserve extra food'. Crazy. Must get myself under control like that! -
Message 4
Posted by Westsussexbird or Birdy aka Westie (U6316532) on Tuesday, 1st February 2011
Lost, is it possible for you to decide what you are going to eat tomorrow, today ... plan exactly what you will have?
Then, when you are eating you can say to yourself "This is food I am eating today which I thought about yesterday when today was tomorrow".
It might be a help .......( runs for cover behind settee!!!!) -
Message 5
Posted by Sister Primrose of the Red Tinsel Flag (U5405579) on Tuesday, 1st February 2011
Morning all.
LiML - Have you thought about a slow cooker for healthy food ready to eat as soon as you get in? Where you work is there a microwave so you could take a portion of good thick soup in to eat between end of work and meeting and keep yourself going?
When I worked 12 1/2 hour shifts I found it was very easy to skip the evening meal break and keep on going with the work because "it has to be done and I can eat when I get home". Then when I got home I was famished and ate nonsense and felt unwell. I do wonder now whether the wild swings in my blood sugar levels that must have produced may have contributed to my new best friend - diabetes.
Birdy, I've skip read over the past week so am not entirely sure what the plan you and ana are on but hope it's suiting you. Also that your leg is improving with the exercise and you can increase the 'move more' bit of your regime without undue distress.
2lb 12 oz down this week which makes 7lb - a full half a stone - since Hogmanay. In all the time I've been in the MFC I have never lost that much weight in a month. Not sure whether it's the fear of complications (which is really making me stop and think before I put food in my mouth) or the changes to my diet (I'm reducing the overall amount of carbs in my diet and making sure the ones I eat are low glycaemic load ones). It possibly is a diabetes side effect although it doesn't pre date the diagnosis and my blood sugars were only marginally above the limit so I think that's less likely. But whatever the cause I am pleased, and not because of how it makes me look, but because it means there's less visceral fat for the diabetes worsening hormones to lurk in. Hurrah!!!
So, onwards and downwards and lets all keep on keeping on.
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Message 6
Posted by Fire-Pig - proud to wave the protest banner (U12231213) on Tuesday, 1st February 2011
Birdy - you can come out now, I think Wednesday is the day Lost works at home. Make sure you hide again before she gets home, but I don't know what time it will be today!
I have a thrilling day of Church Accounts ahead of me. I am going to do my best Laura/Meercat impression and work in bursts of an hour with short breaks. My dear predecessor did not follow the guidelines of the Church in Wales, I will.
I have some delicious blackcurrant tea to drink, YP says it smells of jam!
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Message 7
Posted by careen (U1935190) on Tuesday, 1st February 2011
Hi all, happy February!
I have been making plans for Lent - not giving something up but talking up something which is running with the dog each day for a mile building up to three miles. Then I started thinking about pancakes and checked the date and its not until next month!
Ive copied out those 10 tips from that 10 things to know aboout losing weight and am going to make into a check list.
1. dont skip meals
2. use a smaller plate
3. count calories
4. dont blame your motabolism
5. protein staves off hunger pangs
6 soup keeps you feeling fuller for longer
7 the wider the choice of food the more you eat
8 low fat dairy helps you excrete more fate
9 execrcise continues burning fat even while you sleep
10 keep moving and lose weight
but Im going to add - do it with others - which is why Im here.
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Message 8
Posted by anagramladysin (U14258840) on Tuesday, 1st February 2011
Morning all and happy February.
12.15 and haven't had breakfast yet ... ooops .... but have had a busy morning and got a lot done.
Wish it would stop raining. I'd like to go for my walk and don't like walking in the rain. -
Message 9
Posted by geepers (U6804393) on Tuesday, 1st February 2011
Nice work, Primmers! V impressed.
I'm disgruntled tonight cos according to the scales at the gym I've put on nearly 2lbs - am telling myself it's because I went after dinner and the food's not digested, when I usually go straight after work and before dinner, but am still peeved. Am planning to sneak onto my housemate's scales tomorrow morning and hope things are better. -
Message 10
Posted by LostInML (U13646691) on Tuesday, 1st February 2011
Thanks for the suggestions. I think the key is a) forward planning and b) trying to get beyond the 4 p.m. dip. I basically worked through from 1 p.m. to 7 p.m. without any break yesterday, which in hindsight was ridiculous. I had one cup of coffee in that time (while I was actually working, given to me by someone else). If I could perhaps have had something at about 4 p.m. (a healthy snack), I might not have felt so disgruntled later on.
Today is much better - home first, dinner and then going out, which I can cope with. Tomorrow is another long day, but I will be able to come home immediately to a meal, which might help, and I might be able to take a snack in.
Must starchen my resolve, as being virtuous in the pool and then eating too much will not actually achieve positive weight loss, will it?! -
Message 11
Posted by BrightYangThing (U14627705) on Tuesday, 1st February 2011
Hi Geepers
It can be disappointing to get an unexpected number. I have to admit I tend to use only one set of scales, same time of day, same state of dress/undress in order to get a consistent reading, especially when a slight upward reading can be so disheartening. I can be 2kg different if using the scales in other bathroom. I prefer them (ha ha) but think the upper reading on mine is more accurate. Dwat.
Do you have good electronic scales at home? If not and getting some is not planned, can you use the same ones each time?
I think the other scale beater is how you feel, lighter, fitter, slimmer - particularly if you are turning soft flesh to firmer muscle. It is not good to over use that reason but it can account for slight variations. If you feel like you should have lost then you are almost certainly doing the right things. Don't be disheartened. -
Message 12
Posted by geepers (U6804393) on Tuesday, 1st February 2011
I'm trying only to weigh on the same scales at the same time, but with my job the way it is, I can't always stick to a routine - I don't want scales here in my room, because I'll be on them every day - at least with the gym it's only 3 times a week! (Which is far too frequent, I know, and is why I generally stay away from them altogether, but just for these first few weeks I'm going with the flow!)
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Message 13
Posted by Westsussexbird or Birdy aka Westie (U6316532) on Tuesday, 1st February 2011
Well done/commiserations everyone ... delete as appropriate :0)
I've been out all day so wont try and reply to everyone ....but the one thing we all know is that the club moto of Keep On Keeping On is so apt. We get disappoitnments on the way, but we'll get there in the end.
Well done everyone. -
Message 14
Posted by geepers (U6804393) on Wednesday, 2nd February 2011
Phew - early morning scales 3lb down on last night's 2lb up. Feel much better - must have been a heavy piece of lamb I ate! Overall loss is now 9lb - not going as quickly as the book predicted, but it IS going.
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Message 15
Posted by LostInML (U13646691) on Wednesday, 2nd February 2011
9lb sounds an awful lot to me, geepers, so don't be discouraged!
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Message 16
Posted by Westsussexbird or Birdy aka Westie (U6316532) on Wednesday, 2nd February 2011
Well done geepers :0)
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Message 17
Posted by BrightYangThing (U14627705) on Wednesday, 2nd February 2011
Great news Geepers. Not sure of your time scales, but a downward trend of 9lbs must be wonderful incentive and fabulous reward.
My own scales can vary by up to 2kg over a 48 hr period so I work on longer term (week+) trends.
KOKO -
Message 18
Posted by careen (U1935190) on Wednesday, 2nd February 2011
9 lbs is very encouraging!
I work on the prinicipal that we are a tube with a hole in the top and er bottom, which is sometimes nearer full than empty. So if I go up 2lbs that doesn't necesarily mean anything and I might have lost weight! -
Message 19
Posted by LostInML (U13646691) on Wednesday, 2nd February 2011
A more sensible day today... slice of wholemeal toast for breakfast. Salad with a little bit of feta cheese diced up & chopped bacon rasher for lunch. Fruit snack ready to go to work with me now to keep me going through yet another parents' evening... then I will have a proper dinner cooked for me by my father. Hopefully nothing else.
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Message 20
Posted by geepers (U6804393) on Wednesday, 2nd February 2011
I know 9lbs in three weeks is good really - stop moaning, geepers - it's just that I'm going on holiday in two weeks and my perfect size 8 sister is coming too, and I wanted to be a size 0, just to look better than her on the photos (this is a joke, I know size 0 wouldn't look better than her, honest I do). I shall KOKO and will deffo be slimmer in two weeks time.
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Message 21
Posted by Westsussexbird or Birdy aka Westie (U6316532) on Wednesday, 2nd February 2011
geepers fear not, I spent yesterday with my perfectly formed size 8 sis in law ...and we had a lovely time :0)) I did tell her I hate her and she said she knew, but we managed to get along ok :0))
We popped into Molton Brown as the plunger in my soap bottle doesn't work properly and the gels behind the counter told us about a wonderful new product they really really recomended to us ... I asked if it would make us young and beautiful and the look on the girls' faces was priceless ... as no doubt their new range of products would also be!
I'm on day 4 of The Dukan Diet and have lost nearly half a stone in that time! I'm eating lean meat, fish, (salmon for lunch) and oat bran made into pancakes with white of egg, and zero fat yoghurt and quark and zero fat fromage frais (and a few other things besides) and feel on top of the world. I'm due to do this for one more day then introduce veggies on alternate days until I lose the next stone. I feel absolutely fine and the trousers I bought last year fit once more! -
Message 22
Posted by kittismum (U2266865) on Wednesday, 2nd February 2011
Hi everyone, I'd just like to report in that although I haven't been feeling too good for the past few days, today I have felt better and have had a full breakfast ( well full for me anyway) I had a bowl of homemade yogurt with a medium banana and a tablespoon of honey. How did I do? I'm not worried about the calories yet, just trying to get myself in the habit of eating regularly. Hope all is well with everyone. Gwen x
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Message 23
Posted by GEm (U4356909) on Wednesday, 2nd February 2011
Well done GMY - that breakfast sounds gorgeous. Banana and Honey with HOME MADE yogurt, what bliss. Did you sit there savouring every last mouthful and enjoying that silky feel and sweetness against the sharp tang of the yogurt in your mouth. Sitting here drooling now - send some my way please!!!
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Message 24
Posted by Westsussexbird or Birdy aka Westie (U6316532) on Wednesday, 2nd February 2011
Well done Gwen ... I too love honey and yoghurt and banana .. we quite often have that combination for tea. A cuppa slips down well with it :0)
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Message 25
Posted by kittismum (U2266865) on Wednesday, 2nd February 2011
Not really GEm. The cat was looking at it and daring me to look away so she could have it. I did enjoy it tho. It's my Daughters Birthday today so we are having a take away, not healthy I know but I am looking forward to it. Gwen x
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Message 26
Posted by Westsussexbird or Birdy aka Westie (U6316532) on Wednesday, 2nd February 2011
Enjoy it Gwen :0)
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Message 27
Posted by anagramladysin (U14258840) on Thursday, 3rd February 2011
Evening all. Back from about 400 miles, emptying my mother;s flat finally, visiting FiL in hopsital after a fall, seeing Son Two who is stressed, going to lunch with my 90 year old (today) aunt / godmother who has a depression issue, then back for a three-hour-long meeting and now home.
Phew.
Will weigh myself tomorrow.
But a tip I have just discovered (being on the Dukan diet and all ---- and in passing YAY BIRDY !!!! am so glad you are feeling great and losing too).
Pub/restaurant lunch with people who wanted to do two courses, main and pudding. Me, I don't do puddings. So I had the main (coq au vin) and then ordered one of the starters for pudding (blue cheese, pear and walnut salad). The servers didn't mind a bit, and I didn't mind having my meal in the 'wrong' order. The French eat their salads after their mains, so why not me? And lots of people eat cheese as a second course. So I was happy and no-one else minded, and it was A Good Thing.
Might post my loss (I hope!) tomorrow.
Oh I am glad to be home. -
Message 28
Posted by Westsussexbird or Birdy aka Westie (U6316532) on Thursday, 3rd February 2011
I'm glad you're safely home Ana ... what a time you've had! :0)
This is my fifth day on the Dukan scheme, and so today I have introduced veggies ... it was lovely and feels the right thing to do! I had some of my leek soup from the freezer for lunch (oh it tasted good!) and then half a tin of tuna with quark mixed into it (instead of mayo!) and sliced courgette thinly on a mandolin ... it was like heaven on earth as that is pretty much how I eat anyhow.
This evening I roasted a couple of stumpy chicken legs and just had the meat from them and roast veggies .. not adding any olive oil to them at all, and they were fine! I had a carrot, a courgette, a red onion and some little tomatoes. I haven't eaten anything else as I don't want to take away the taste, but I suppose I had better clean my teeth before I go to sleep.
I was nudging the stone zone and now I've hit 7lb, so I'm really pleased.
I hope everyone is doing well. -
Message 29
Posted by Westsussexbird or Birdy aka Westie (U6316532) on Friday, 4th February 2011
Another pound gone, so that is definitely half a stone in less than a week! I'm as right as rain and full of beans!
Interestingly, on one trip we went on in our camper to Spain it was very difficult to find fruit and veggies and we ate more meat and fish on that trip than usual and we both weighed less when we returned home six weeks later. Up until now this Dukan diet has, for me, been heavy on lean meat/fish/non fat dairy/oatmeal/egg white/and although now I am introducing other foods I don't expect this rate of weight loss to continue, it has basically been the diet we ate in Spain.
The chap who has devised this diet over a period of time says that a very overweight patient came to see him saying he wanted help to lose weight, "but I can't bear to give up meatt" ... so the doc said, well, just eat meat and then come back and see me next week and we'll talk about it. When the patient returned he said he thought his scales must have broken as he had lost over half a stone in the week! It got this doc wondering, and so over time he has found what works best for his patients and has written about it.
I'm now at the stage where after five days I add veggies to the lean protein every other day and stay on this course until I get to the weight I want to be. It must be a realistic weight, so as soon as the trousers I bought last year are really comfy again I'll move onto the Consolidation phase where I can reintroduce a serving of fruit a day and 2 slices of wholemeal bread and a serving of cheese a day, gradually reintroduce starchy food. This goes on for five days for every pound I've lost, so 20lbs means 100 days for me.
During the first 50 days I can have one serving of pasta (other starchy foods available) a week and one meal where I can eat anything I like but no second helpings, and during the second 50 days two servings of 'pasta' a week or jacket spud, and two celebratory meals where I can eat whatever I want but no second helpings. Never to have the two celebratory meals one after the other and preferably spread out through the week. Reintroduce more fatty lamb and pork.
(Every day I drink one and a half litres of water, and make a pancake from egg white and oat bran. This morning I had a pancake with quark spread over it (no fat cheese) and smoked salmon with lemon juice. How yum is that! It's now nearly 1pm and I'm not in the least bit hungry.)
Then the final stage is to go right back to protein and low fat dairy etc one day a week. He suggests Thursday. Apparently in France restaurants know that a lot of people are following the Dukan Diet and so they have Dukan Thursday menus where everything on the menu is ok to have on a Thursday!
I'm explaining this to you all so you don't think I'm doing anything daft and crazy ...... and I'm not recommending it to anyone but all I can say is, I am thriving on it and thoroughly enjoying seeing the scales going back down to where I want them to be. I started on Sunday morning, it is now Friday morning and I've gone from nudging the stone mark to 6 and a quarter pounds. -
Message 30
Posted by Westsussexbird or Birdy aka Westie (U6316532) on Friday, 4th February 2011
I should add that as well as the lean protein no fat yoghurt, cottage cheese fromage frais, quark are included. Herbs, spices and onions, and lemon all help make the meat and fish easy to enjoy.
This is not an advert, just an information bulletin! -
Message 31
Posted by anagramladysin (U14258840) on Friday, 4th February 2011
Great summary, Birdy.
I am so delighted it's working for you too. The best thing is feeling this good, isn't it?
I have plateaued a bit, but then I have been in other people's hands for a few days which is always more difficult.
Just back from a healthy walk and lunch out with a friend -- a nice salad with chicken, so pretty Dukan.
xx ana -
Message 32
Posted by Westsussexbird or Birdy aka Westie (U6316532) on Friday, 4th February 2011
Thanks Ana :0)
He advocates upping the brisk walking if you get stuck ... but also to realise you are probably still losing weight even if it doesn't show on the scales as of course other factors apply! To walk as if you are a bit late for the train!
Talking of which, I must go on my crosstrainer before Deal starts! -
Message 33
Posted by LostInML (U13646691) on Friday, 4th February 2011
I'm interested in the rapid weight loss you lot on the Dukan diet are experiencing. I've put on 2lbs this week, which doesn't exactly surprise me as I've had some very bad moments food-wise earlier in the week.
I don't think I dare follow this diet, though, mainly because my medication requires some carbohydrates to be taken with the tablets and also because I am so wary of cutting out fruit and vegetables (even temporarily) which I have found help me to feel full.
Maybe, though, I am just resistant because it /is/ a diet and I've always felt panicked (and constrained) by such things and have always put weight straight back on when I've tried to follow such things before. And because I'm defensive about my current position of plateauing, when if I'm truly honest, I know full well why I've put 2lbs on this week and can't hope to lose weight unless I rein myself in generally. So I feel a mixture of envy and resentment at those who are showing rapid weight loss and fear that I will never lose weight again (I would still ideally like to be a stone lighter than I am now) and lack the courage to tackle this last hurdle... (I suppose I should say 'latest hurdle', because there will always be hurdles with me and food, I think.) I feel discouraged and, as always, a bit disgusted with myself for moaning when the solutions are doubtless in my own hands. -
Message 34
Posted by Sister Primrose of the Red Tinsel Flag (U5405579) on Friday, 4th February 2011
LiML, I'm not on a diet as such.
It's true that I'm finding it a lot easier not to put random unplanned food in my mouth with the fear of blindness and amputation hanging over me but frankly I'd rather not have that as an incentive :0)
What I am doing, to help reduce and stabilise my blood sugar levels, is choosing food with a low Glycaemic Load and reducing the overall amount of carbohydrates I eat. I'm a veggie so there are plenty of fruit and veg in there (else I'd starve) and the weight is moving like never before. I'm never hungry and though I am missing potatoes, rice and pasta (I've yet to find a serving low enough to not have a bad effect on my blood sugar) there's huge amounts of stuff I can eat. Just waiting on my roast celeriac, butternut squash, onions and sweet potato to finish roasting. Low carb, filling and nommy.
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Message 35
Posted by LostInML (U13646691) on Friday, 4th February 2011
Oh, I know what you mean about blindness and amputation acting as great incentives, PP. I already (after 4 years) have background diabetic retinopathy (despite my diabetes being stable and my Hb1Ac right where it should be), so this is not an academic prospect by any means.
But I am on tablets that I have to have with carbohydrates, so I daren't cut them out altogether (which the Dukan diet, as I understand it, initially recommends... protein only for so long, then adding things back in.) It was this diet to which I was referring.
I found when I was first diagnosed and changed my diet radically, I lost weight easily. 4 years down the road, it's proving hard to lose this last stone. I suspect I need /something/ different to kickstart weight loss again, but then get scared of the thought of something radical... -
Message 36
Posted by Westsussexbird or Birdy aka Westie (U6316532) on Friday, 4th February 2011
I'm really sorry if mentioning what I'm doing and the apparent success of it is upsetting any of you .... I hope you all know me well enough to know that that is not my intention ... my intention was simply to share how it is going for me at the moment.
Certainly for several days it is lean meat, fish, eggs (Im mostly only having the white) non fat dairy products, a small amount of oat bran made into a pancake, and then you introduce tomatoes, cucumbers, radishes, spinach ... and so the list goes on. But only every other day. This regime goes on until I get to my desired weight.
There are references to diabetes but they are mostly in sections at the end of the book and I haven't read them. Libraries have this book, but I bought it for £7.99 in Waterstones .... it was available in other bookshops so perhaps a crafty sneaky peek? -
Message 37
Posted by LostInML (U13646691) on Friday, 4th February 2011
I know you don't intend to upset anyone at all, Birdy, and I'm really glad you've found something to help you over all the difficulties you've had recently. Please don't worry about posting what is working for you - that's what this thread is all about!
I guess I would have to read the reference sections instead of moaning - that would be far more helpful!
Sigh. It's been a busy week. I will be glad to shut the computer down shortly... just finished a batch of minutes and adjustments to exam entries. I do hate spreadsheets and databases, which will be my closest companions next week! -
Message 38
Posted by Fire-Pig - proud to wave the protest banner (U12231213) on Friday, 4th February 2011
I am interested too by the successes of the Dukan diet, but know it is not for me, for various reasons. I have to attend a fair number of official meals and don't have much choice of what to eat then.
Unless my GP gives me a specific diet, I don't want to go back to thinking that a specific food is forbidden, even for a short time. I want to learn to make sensible choices. It is getting easier for me, but this next week is going to be hard.
I think I must study my GL books again, and go back to Gillian Riley too. Tonight we had sweet potato mash, but I was told it was too sweet and next time would I please do it half and half with potato. It would still be better GL than all potato!
KOKO one and all
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Message 39
Posted by Westsussexbird or Birdy aka Westie (U6316532) on Friday, 4th February 2011
Thanks for responding to my concerns :0) We're all iin this together regardless of which route we take.
I have just grabbed the bull by the horns and it has been easy with Mr Birdy away at the moment and it has been great fun working out what I can concoct with the ingredients I am 'allowed'.
By the time he comes home next Thursday or Friday I shall be well settled into my routine. Apart from us having meat more often I think the only difference is I'm not having cereal for breakfast or eating pasta or jacket spuds yet .... it will fit in well with him as he can have jacket spuds. I haven't told him what I'm doing! I want to see if he notices I've lost weight.
I'm due with the physio at 8 in the morning so I must get to bed.
Have a tasty weekend everyone :0) -
Message 40
Posted by geepers (U6804393) on Saturday, 5th February 2011
Lost, I'm sorry you're feeling down - you've done really well with the weight that you've lost, and you're far from the first poster to highlight that shifting the last stone can be way more difficult than the preceding ones. The trouble is that our bodies get used to the regimes we're on and adapt, as a way of staying alive. Very frustrating of them...
If you have medicine that you need to take with carbs, then diets like Atkins/Dukan/idiotproof are not for you - your medical advice has to outweigh any diet book, or any posts here. But if you could minimise the carbs you eat, just having what you absolutely need for your drugs, and make up the difference with protein and veg, might that help? I like the idiotproof diet because it doesn't make you go through a period of no veg at all (and it also is vehemently anti-aspartame and diet products/drinks, which I'd been really surprised to see Dukan endorse), but if you need your carbs to be from 'proper' starch (rice/pasta etc) rather than from veg, then stay away from it. -
Message 41
Posted by LostInML (U13646691) on Saturday, 5th February 2011
I eat as few carbs as possible and make up my meal then with protein and veg - I couldn't live without meat, I don't think! That's why the Dukan diet seems quite appealing, because I enjoy proteins so much.
I agree that our bodies get used to regimes and adapt, which is why weight loss on any changed diet is easiest at the start.
I don't have any diet drinks at all (though I'm allowed them) - I only drink water and tea or coffee. -
Message 42
Posted by Sister Primrose of the Red Tinsel Flag (U5405579) on Saturday, 5th February 2011
LiML, do you ever go in the Diabetes UK forum?
There's a weight loss forum in there and bound to be someone who can talk about helpful dietary tweaks you can make to take account of your meds but still help restart the process. I know what you mean about radical being overwhelming. One of the things that making it easier for me at the mo is that I was already very familiar with stuff like GI and GL and apart from having to find starchy food substitutes haven't got a huge amount to change. I think if I'd had an unhealthier diet to start with it would have been an absolute nightmare.
PP -
Message 43
Posted by Westsussexbird or Birdy aka Westie (U6316532) on Sunday, 6th February 2011
I think those of us who have already got our heads around the concept of trying to eat healthily have a huge advantage but it is still interesting to have a look at 'diet regime' suggestions and see similarities and differences in how we eat ourselves and whether a change might be helpful.
I think I understand why Pierre Dukan has condoned Diet Coke and artificial sweeteners as he is writing for a huge spectrum of people some who will have been eating rubbish from morning to night. So he suggests artificial sweeteners instead of piling on the sugar (and the instant BUZZ that would produce) and with Diet Coke I noticed him mentioning it as something to have if you really really want to feel you haven't had to abandon what, for some of his patients, is the sensation of sittiing down with a can of fizz.
For now I'm pootling on with his suggestions and doing very well. I've continued to lose weight over the weekend and am now to Xstone 5, instead of Xstone 12 or so. Today I wore trousers I couldn't have worn a week ago!
Today:
Tea and coffee with skimmed milk
Boiled egg and oatbran pancake (with 1 egg white) and
3 slices of Bresaola (thin dried beef)
Lots of water
I knew I was having an evening meal with my daughter, and would have had something for lunch but I really wasn't hungry so had half a big pot of vanilla yoghurt
In the evening I had
Lots of roasted veggies
Fresh salmon (a lovely dinner cooked with my daughter at her flat)
Bowl of black cherry yoghurt
Mugs of tea when I got home as I was thirsty.
I'm not feeling hungry, but if I were I would have some salad and cottage cheese mixed in with it. -
Message 44
Posted by Westsussexbird or Birdy aka Westie (U6316532) on Tuesday, 8th February 2011
I've begun a new thread for us all ..... I'm rather preoccupied at the moment so it's v skimpy and for some reason the link doesn't work properly so I'll be back with that in a mo!
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Message 45
Posted by Westsussexbird or Birdy aka Westie (U6316532) on Tuesday, 8th February 2011
Katy found me there without the link ... three cheers for Katy :0)
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