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Posted by careen (U1935190) on Tuesday, 15th February 2011
Welcome to this week's thread for those of us who try to eat and live as healthily as we can.
We're very friendly, but we have one rule which is that we don't discuss our real life weights ... though we can talk about pounds lost and stone zones, just not what the loss takes us to.
My first opening! now when people who know Im now retired say what do you do all day I can say well this week I opened the doors of my fitness club.
In fact I am busy - and lots of it is about social eating, This week, a birthday buffet meal in a resturant last Sunday, a cakee type support group and a conference with free food. On Sunday I didnt restrict myself at the buffet but had just fruit for tea. Not weighed since. I think if I have a plan for each occasion I should do OK.
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Posted by Westsussexbird or Birdy aka Westie (U6316532) on Tuesday, 15th February 2011
Careen ... thanks very much for opening up. You said it was written in your diary which is the only way I can manage now that we are both retired ... it's not that every day is the same, but time seems to fly past and if I don't make a note of commitments I just lose track of time.
I too find that planning what I 'm going to eat each day is the only way really ... knowing what I will eat tomorrow, if not the day after, is how I operate. Fish and veggies for my main meal today.
Archi crash landed into the end of last week's thread feeling cross with herself for eating a box of chocs. Archi, it is a trigger food for so many of us ... you are not alone. It happened. I would be cross on your behalf if you didn't manage to enjoy them, but in hopes that you did then just accept that it happened and move on. As Lost says, try and remember the sensation and the feeling that led to deciding to open the box and bear that in mind if the same thing happens again. It is so difficult for some of us when presented with unexpected food, whether a surprise visit to a restaurant or a box of chocs.
Well, I'm doing ok after getting stuck for a few days because MrB came home from France with pate and cheese and wine but I have finished the pate now and am leaving the rest of the high fat cheeses for him to eat. St Albray is one of my favourites and I have a sniff at lunchtime! I didn't put any weight on while adding pate etc to my diet, but am relieved to have lost some again this morning.
Onwards and downwards everyone :0)
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Whoops -the sister threads.
We have sister threads. If you're looking for advice on matters relating to exercise there's GEm's Gymn thread
www.bbc.co.uk/dna/mb...
If you're wanting some ideas for healthy recipes there's Katy's Cookbook thread
www.bbc.co.uk/dna/mb...
And last but not least, we take it in turns to push the Village Hall door open on a Monday evening or Tuesday morning, for the new weekly meet of the MFC and we're always looking for volunteers to do this. It's not hard or scary, so if you fancy a shot here's the rota
www.bbc.co.uk/dna/mb...
Birdy - if I get stuff like those cheeses I look them up to check if they freeze (most things do) and chuck them in the freezer. Less accessible and less likely that I will pick at them
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You can still enjoy the cheese. Just have tiny portions.
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Thanks for opening up, Careen. I think I'm down for next week as it's half-term. If I don't have memory pegs to hang things on, I forget. I'd like to think it's an age thing, but maybe I'm just not that good at remembering anymore. It's taken me three days to phone the chemist for my repeat prescription even though I had reminders everywhere!
Better go on and get dinner cooking now. I'm definitely hungry, but have managed the post-4 p.m. dip with a coffee and a few grapes, so that is better than normal.
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Posted by Westsussexbird or Birdy aka Westie (U6316532) on Tuesday, 15th February 2011
Thanks for thoughts on freezing cheese ... I did a lot of hunting to find out if I could freeze St Albray and yes I could, but apparently as soon as it thaws it goes runny and sort of slurps inside its skin. I decided not much point in doing that. OH is enjoying it. We'll be back to France at least 3 times this year, so something to look forward to ......
Prue, at the moment I'm avoiding full fat cheeses as apart from anything else I find they are a trigger for me. Lots of other things to eat :0)
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I'm envious of your planned three trips to France, Birdy. I don't have any trips planned there this year... I'm more hopeful for next year (anniversary year plus school trip, but the school trip will be probably more stressful than enjoyable!)
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Posted by Westsussexbird or Birdy aka Westie (U6316532) on Tuesday, 15th February 2011
Lost .... :0) It is simply because we have our little camper and lots of free time. We buy a carnet with 6 crossings and can go whenever we like without booking. We just show up and go on the next available crossing ... if we have to wait we just put the kettle on and hunker down!
As some of you know, the free time came as a result of OH having depression and being unable to contemplate continuing his career as an accountant. Having the carnet means we can decide not to go ... even on the morning of the planned crossing ... if OH decides he's not well enough/up for it. So it removes the stress for him.
When we used to book a crossing the usual way almost immediately he would get anxious about. A hopeless case really!
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The sister threads, with proper links this time
The cyber gym
Katy's cookbook thread
and the rota for opening up
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Posted by Westsussexbird or Birdy aka Westie (U6316532) on Tuesday, 15th February 2011
Careen ... that is very kind of you ... I was half way through doing it for you :0)
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Posted by Fire-Pig - proud to wave the protest banner (U12231213) on Tuesday, 15th February 2011
Poking my nose around the door here, thanks for opening Careen. I have had a very productive day at home today, there is a pot of veggie soup waiting to be liquidised and frozen. I've cleared an intimidating pile of paper, some into files with divider sections so in the future every letter arriving will go straight into its section (is that a pig I see flying past?) Finally I have been ruthless with some old card making magazines. Do all of this I have hardly thought about food nor nibbled anything, but did have a teabreak with a Rich Tea biccy.
Why is it that one day can be so different from another? Recently I have felt so worn out and lacking my get up and go. Yesterday I decided that this was what I was going to do today and that nothing would stop me.
Now to go to make the Chinese Veg stir fry for tonight.
F-P
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Posted by Sister Primrose of the Red Tinsel Flag (U5405579) on Tuesday, 15th February 2011
Evening all and thanks to careen for opening up.
I had a buggrit weekend. We were out for a meal to mark the end of Girly's prelims. I had been for a long walk before as I know I can eat more carby food without it affecting my blood sugars too badly if I do that, but even making sensible choices I knew I was getting near the upper limit [low carb not so easy in an Italian American themed diner :0) ]
Then it got to dessert time and I said no thanks and sat and watched as they had sticky toffee pudding and chocolate brownie ice cream and rhubarb crumble with custard and I felt so very, very sorry for myself because I couldn't join in. And then the next day I drank half a bottle of red wine and ate a huge amount of Christmas cake. I felt awful afterwards and my blood sugars have bourne no relationship to what I've eaten since then and this morning I weighed 1lb 14oz more than I did last week. I wouldn't be surprised if that's mostly water to dilute the massive amount of sweet stuff I had, and it is still less than I weighed a fortnight ago but it's still a really daft thing to have done
I sort of expected something like that to happen; when anything bad occurs in my life I tend to put the emotional stuff on hold while I figure out the practical stuff. I've learned a lot about diabetes and how best to manage it in the past few weeks and now that I feel I'm more in control it seems I'm ready to let the emotions off the lead. Very fed up now and because Tuesday is a tricky day to manage foodwise because of work and travel commitments I don't really know what's what with my bod at the mo. Can't even have a bar of chocolate to cheer me up...
Anyway,as Scarlett says, tomorrow is another day and I'll be back on the sensible side of the street. And next time I've got a meal out coming up I'll just need to have a cunning plan devised before I sit down t eat.
KOKO all
PP
ps On a positive note I got the results of some blood tests yesterday. My cholesterol has gone from 7.6 in September to 3.3 now and the Triglycerides, which were really high at 13.7 in September are back within the normal range. Yay!!! My average blood sugar result wasn't too bad either. Chin up Primrose
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Posted by Westsussexbird or Birdy aka Westie (U6316532) on Tuesday, 15th February 2011
Well done Fire Pig :0)) How good to read of you doing so well. Mr Birdy once went on a very expensive management course (thousands of pounds) and when he came home I asked him what he had learned and he said "Only handle a piece of paper once" ... and you've discovered this all by yourself :0))
Primrose/Scarlett :0)) Well done on your blood/cholesterol tests and I'm sorry you are finding it frustrating/so difficult (other words available) to see the way forward with the food/emotions dilemma. I hope coming in here and telling us about it helps, as even if we can't really advise you on what to put in your mouse, we can at least understand a little. I hope it gets easier for you.
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Posted by Sister Primrose of the Red Tinsel Flag (U5405579) on Tuesday, 15th February 2011
Och, I'll be fine when I get used to it...
One of the positive things for me is that I feel unwell when I've done something like that - it is actually like a hangover. This is a good reason not to do it again and will make it eaier fo me to make the right choice as it's not a nebulous distant future risk but an immediate concrete effect.
Glad you're feeling better for being back on your regime.
PP
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Posted by Westsussexbird or Birdy aka Westie (U6316532) on Tuesday, 15th February 2011
Thanks PP. :0)
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Posted by archingmad (U8292055) on Wednesday, 16th February 2011
I've calmed down a bit, but haven't made the mistake of over-compensating by having a starvation day - I started out with a big bowl of porridge. Had a volunteers' training day today and there were sandwiches for lunch. I had three triangles: cheese, tinned salmon and tuna ... and they all tasted the same. Weird. Perhaps I have killed my taste-buds with chocolate overload.
It hasn't been entirely nosh free the rest of the day and my veg and pasta supper was not particularly "lite". I don't know why I went so manic yesterday. I don't want to think about it too much because I think the answer may be a simple one: greed.
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Posted by LostInML (U13646691) on Wednesday, 16th February 2011
You will probably find the emotions fluctuating a bit, PP. I certainly did. Like you, I tried to approach diabetes sensibly, doing what was required to help myself in the eating/ exercise stakes and on the whole I don't spend that much time bemoaning what I can no longer eat. Most of the time I can be around people eating chocolates/ cakes/ desserts and not feel at all tempted or sorry for myself. But some days the emotion of this being a way of life, not a diet (and therefore in my mind something that can be rescinded) do get on top of me. And the days when I face up to the fact that awful side effects may be awaiting me, even if I do do all the right things, are pretty dark, I have to admit.
Archi, I don't think greed is that simple an answer, really. The /why/ we are greedy is more complex than perhaps we like to admit.
I ate a huge chunk of cheese last night. Not a sensible amount. A delicious amount, and I enjoyed it. But I suspect I will not enjoy the consequences.
What have I learned from this? Well, basically, not to buy it in the first place. I bought it specifically for me. I knew I would eat it. I knew I would probably eat it in one or two sittings, rather than spaced out over a week. Yes, that was greedy. But since I know my tendency to 'finish because I've started', the only way I can deal with myself is not to buy the stuff in the first place. So that is how I will cope.
Analysing why I decided to buy it in the first place is not that hard. I've been fed up with work and wanted to 'treat' myself, 'reward' myself for getting through some tough work days. I wanted to use food, yet again, as a comfort and reward. That's the kind of thinking I need to dig out. It is faulty thinking and I need to find alternate rewards!!
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Posted by Sister Primrose of the Red Tinsel Flag (U5405579) on Wednesday, 16th February 2011
Thanks LiML, I'm sure this is mostly a short term reaction to the new circumstance and I will get over it and I will find a way not to mind not having the sticky toffee pudding. I don't think the having a spoonful and leaving the rest solution will work for me, if I ordered it I'd eat it...
I became a vegetarian when I was about 17. Most of the stuff I stopped eating I didn't mind at all. I did miss Mum's steak and kidney plate pies, they were very tasty with mushrooms and good thick gravy. I did miss Beef Bourginon on Christmas Eve. I don't miss either of them any more, so I expect I will learn not to miss sweet puds. I know that theoretically I could return to eating meat, it's a choice I made so I could un-make it and that is different from the diabetes. The reality is that I don't think I could unmake vegetarianism though. When I got the funny bloods last September and did all my reading up on them I was faced with lots of advice to introduce oily fish into my diet for the omegas, and I tried and tried to envisgae putting some in my mouth and never got past nausea.
Anyhow, I don't have the choice so that's that.
Turning to your motivation for the cheese attack, what other treats might you be able to have to satisfy the need for comfort and reward when there's too much going on in your life?
PP
ps Christmas cake in bin with leftover stir fry tipped over it, and I had natural low fat yog with fresh raspberries and blueberries for my breakfast. Fresh page, going to try not to spoil it.
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Posted by LostInML (U13646691) on Wednesday, 16th February 2011
I too couldn't order something and only have a part of it, so I just don't eat sweet stuff now. I know if I started on a pudding or a box of chocolates, I'd eat the lot...
Yes, I do need to keep working on strategies for treating myself that /don't/ involve food. I suppose one problem I have is that food is like an 'instant' fix. Other things tend to have slower benefits....! But these are often better in the long run!
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Posted by Auntie Prue (U14585893) on Wednesday, 16th February 2011
PP - excellent news - well done on your results : )
The good news about alchohol is that it help keep blood glucose down. So if, for example, I want to have a pudding as a special treat at a restaurant, I say no to bread, drink a couple of glasses of wine - and I can get away with the pudding.
One small good quality choc won't upset it too much either.
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Posted by Fire-Pig - proud to wave the protest banner (U12231213) on Wednesday, 16th February 2011
Here I am can you see the difference? My new Bravissimo bra is both one cup size smaller and also one back size (as they called it) smaller. Now the number is a perfectly respectable one, the cup size is still rather large but part of that is genetic! I'm feeling a new woman! The last time I went there I made the same amount of movement downwards, so since being in MFC it is 4 inches in size terms and 2 cup sizes in letters, not bad eh?
I went to a lunch in Liverpool today, the bread rolls were H-U-G-E and very few were eaten, what a waste! The speaker was from the Liverpool Cheese Company, so we did have some free samples, which I enjoyed. They talked just about British Cheeses, there are more than 700 of them now. Their best selling one is local to us, Snowdonia Creamery's Black Bomber.
I thought about Auntie Prue, and thought she'd enjoy the cheeses too!
F-P
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Posted by Westsussexbird or Birdy aka Westie (U6316532) on Wednesday, 16th February 2011
:0)
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*whistles at fire pigs new bra*( if thats acceptable behaviour, sorry otherwise, but I am in the building industry) how fab is that? Well done you
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Posted by Westsussexbird or Birdy aka Westie (U6316532) on Wednesday, 16th February 2011
I think a "Bravo" is also called for :0)
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Posted by Fire-Pig - proud to wave the protest banner (U12231213) on Wednesday, 16th February 2011
Thanks Birdy & Guzzi! It's done wonders for my morale!
F-P
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Posted by Westsussexbird or Birdy aka Westie (U6316532) on Wednesday, 16th February 2011
Not just your morale :0))))
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Well done! It's always good to get encouragement and visible proof of progress!
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Posted by Westsussexbird or Birdy aka Westie (U6316532) on Thursday, 17th February 2011
.... and I weigh quarter of a pound less than I weighed at the beginning of the week.
I hope those of you wobbling (!) on your eating plan are having a good week :0))
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Positvie bra stories are always encouraging.
Pn Ö÷²¥´óÐã breakfast yesterday they were discussiong whether restaurants show show calories on menus. There was a chef there who was dead against it saying a meal out should be a treat. But apparently a good French meal in a restaurant you could be eating a whole block of butter.
I think the calories should be on the menu. Calore counters should not have to faff around readusting their day/week
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Posted by Westsussexbird or Birdy aka Westie (U6316532) on Thursday, 17th February 2011
Careen, I think one of the Pizza houses has a more healthy pizza ... they simply cut out a huge circle in the middle and pop a salad in it!
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This has nothing to do with healthy eating, but I'm shocked and upset... I found out that a former pupil, aged 18, was killed in a car crash on Wednesday; her mother (driving the car) is critically ill in hospital. As you can perhaps imagine, it's been a grim day at work. It puts all my moaning about weight into perspective.
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Im so sorry, Lost
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Posted by Westsussexbird or Birdy aka Westie (U6316532) on Thursday, 17th February 2011
I'm sorry Lost.
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Thanks for your support. I will be glad to get to half-term! I feel so helpless.
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Posted by Fire-Pig - proud to wave the protest banner (U12231213) on Friday, 18th February 2011
Sorry to have missed this yesterday Lost. Is today the last day before half term? It is around here.
Next week, actually starting tomorrow, is going to be pretty busy for me with half term. Ah well, I'll do my best and look around for supporting meercats and pots of mustard!
F-P
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Posted by Westsussexbird or Birdy aka Westie (U6316532) on Friday, 18th February 2011
Ana hasn't popped in this week ... I know she's busy but I hope all is well. :0)
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Oh Lost, so sorry to hear of this latest blow to your spirit. How sad for the family. My thoughts are with them.
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sorry to hear that, Lost
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Posted by Auntie Prue (U14585893) on Friday, 18th February 2011
We had something similar happen here a couple of weeks ago.
It is a terrible thing and such a random waste of life.
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Posted by Westsussexbird or Birdy aka Westie (U6316532) on Saturday, 19th February 2011
If any of you ever want to buy fat free vanilla yoghurt don't get Yeo Valley ... it's quite unpleasant. I recommend Onken which has less sugar as well.
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Posted by Westsussexbird or Birdy aka Westie (U6316532) on Monday, 21st February 2011
Well, the scales continue to show a drop in my weight which is just wonderful. I've been following Dukan for four weeks now and have lost about ten pounds .... I've settled to 2lb a week. I hope that in another four weeks I will have lost the remaining few pounds and so move onto the third phase and be able to reintroduce bread, fruit, cheese etc.and first of all have one and then two meals a week of whatever I choose.
Yesterday:
cottage cheese and vanilla yoghurt (really refreshing)
Pancake with a egg white and oatbran, smoked salmon, quark cheese and lemon
I had roast chicken and all the veggies I could muster for lunch
Not in the least bit hungry until the evening when I had the egg yolk and another egg as an omelette with scraps of the chicken
Cherry yoghurt
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Just to say the new thread is open here:
I thought I'd better do it while I remembered!
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