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Message 1.Â
Posted by Dapply (U2437462) on Thursday, 2nd June 2011
Welcome to the June Dog Club, when all matters canine can be discussed and everyone is welcome.
Saffie is without doubt entering her teenager phase. Is very picky about her food, and what she will gobble down one day she turns her nose up at the next. Is one minute careering round the house with bits of stick she has found in the garden and the next sitting looking very mournful.
But never mind she will come through this phase, just as all the others have.
{sigh}
Now who will be the first to mention poo? -
Message 2
Posted by Dapply (U2437462) on Thursday, 2nd June 2011
Ooops forgot to include the link for last month's thread.
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Message 3
Posted by Dapply (U2437462) on Friday, 3rd June 2011
Woof!
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Message 4
Posted by fairy hedgehog (U1485678) on Friday, 3rd June 2011
> who will be the first to mention poo? <
Germaine Greer, who wants us all to keep away from woodland because dog poo is killing the bluebells.
I'd say that she just likes to make the headlines every now and again.
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Message 5
Posted by dondy (U3463640) on Friday, 3rd June 2011
I'd say that she just likes to make the headlines every now and again Â
Surely not, FH ? (winky smiley wotsit)
Thanks for starting the thread Dapply. I am comforted by your comments on teenage dog behaviour, as I think we have been through something similar with Lily as re the playful one minute, gloomy the next thing. Does it also explain the urge to bark for ages in the evenings and insistance on going outside as soon as we sit down to eat / watch TV ?
Sadly, 9 yr old human offspring also seems to be entering the teenage phase. (It's way too early !!!!)
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Message 6
Posted by PinaGrigio (U11141735) on Friday, 3rd June 2011
hello everyone, good to see poo has already made an appearance < winky smiley wotsit here >
v interesting comments about picky dogs and adolescence - how long exactly do we think this might last? The reason I ask is because when we first got our rescue boy he ate anything and everything we put down. Now, a couple of years on, he's definitely more choosy. We have adopted what I think of as the Mustafa school of practice ie if the food's not eaten PDQ it goes in the bin and there's no more (before we'd leave it around), but we still are having little episodes of the Hound not being particularly interested in stuff. He has recently had a gut bug, which has been treated, but we can't work out whether he's on some form of delayed development because he's a rescue, whether he's now more secure in his relations with us so he knows food will come at regular intervals thus he can afford to reject it now and again, or whether he just has a variable appetite and that's just how it is. He's exercising fine, drinking fine, and pooing fine, so no concerns about his general health. Any ideas?
on another note, saw these fabulous dog pics the other day and thought I'd share them with everyone:
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Message 7
Posted by ANDROMEDAKRAKEN (U14391535) on Friday, 3rd June 2011
Hello, I am posting my thread here, as per someone else's suggestion.Hope this doesn't annoy anyone.
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Message 8
Posted by ANDROMEDAKRAKEN (U14391535) on Friday, 3rd June 2011
Why was my post Catp'd?? Can you please explain this to me as I am very upset by this. It was not off topic, and was posted on the advice of someone else.
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Message 9
Posted by PinaGrigio (U11141735) on Friday, 3rd June 2011
ANDRO, I didn't see your original post but can't imagine it was anyone in the Dog Club who catpeed it - that sort of thing doesn't really happen here. What did you want to know? Do you want to try again and see what happens?
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Message 10
Posted by ANDROMEDAKRAKEN (U14391535) on Friday, 3rd June 2011
I just posted a link to my thread asking for help with my dog.
Hope this one doesnt get peed -
Message 11
Posted by Sunny Clouds (U14258963) on Friday, 3rd June 2011
Could someone have thought it counted as spam? What about posting a link?
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Message 12
Posted by PinaGrigio (U11141735) on Friday, 3rd June 2011
Hi ANDRO, I would echo what others have said about dogsitting services being completely different to kennels. We use two different dogsitters round here (Herts/Beds) and our dog has a more luxurious break each time than we do.
I'm sure someone will be along soon more in your neck of the woods. Good luck with getting it sorted. -
Message 13
Posted by ANDROMEDAKRAKEN (U14391535) on Friday, 3rd June 2011
Am looking for something more long term. Dog sitters usually cover holidays etc. I need a fosterer for probably a few months at least.
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Message 14
Posted by Tayler Cresswell - Host (U14232848) on Friday, 3rd June 2011
Hi Andro
Your post was picked up by a filter and referred to me - it's back now : )
Tayler -
Message 15
Posted by ANDROMEDAKRAKEN (U14391535) on Friday, 3rd June 2011
Thanks for that Tayler.
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Message 16
Posted by Moonflower (U2267264) on Friday, 3rd June 2011
You could try asking at your local vets, or perhaps putting a postcard advert in there. Vets would be likely to know of anyone local who could foster a dog for a few months
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Message 17
Posted by Prinkma (U14661090) on Saturday, 4th June 2011
love the dog pics!
My two rescue dogs were very thin when I first got them, and very picky about eating. I was feeding them the dried food recommended by previous owner, vet etc.. However the woman on 'It's me or the dog' advised mixing some wet food through, to make it more tasty, so now I mix through a tiny bit of the cat's tinned food and they wolf it down. Only needs a tiny bit, to coat the outside of the dried food. -
Message 18
Posted by Prinkma (U14661090) on Saturday, 4th June 2011
This would be my entry in the 'man's best friend' category - Daughter #1 with Chicco, showing off what's left of his poor little family jewels :¬ (
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Message 19
Posted by Dapply (U2437462) on Sunday, 5th June 2011
Saffie lies like that too. I keep telling her, it is very undigernified for a daughter of a champion but she doesn't listen.
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Message 20
Posted by Dapply (U2437462) on Monday, 6th June 2011
I know we don't normally mark the anniversary of losing one of our doggies but on this day last year my lovely Seren died.
I still miss her so much and wish I could turn back the clock so that she does not get sick and leave us.
Saffie seems to know that I am sad today and has been a good girl and sitting close to me for lots of cuddles.
Seren my beautiful loving girl. I will never ever forget you.
Got leaky eyes now................................. -
Message 21
Posted by Marmalade Drizzle (U2239190) on Monday, 6th June 2011
Oh Dapply - what a sad day for you. Poor Seren and poor you. It was such a sudden illness wasn't it.
Couldn't see you sitting in the dog club all alone without a {{{hug}}}.
Marms -
Message 22
Posted by Prinkma (U14661090) on Monday, 6th June 2011
Hugs :¬ (
But I bet she had a lovely life with you. -
Message 23
Posted by dondy (U3463640) on Monday, 6th June 2011
Dapply {{hug}} from me too.
I cannot believe a whole year has gone by. Glad you have Saffy to comfort you todsay ? How do they sense our moods so well ?
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Message 24
Posted by PinaGrigio (U11141735) on Monday, 6th June 2011
oh, Dapply, have a Large Hug. I'm another who can't believe a year has gone already since you lost Seren. Glad you have Saffie to cuddle; dogs really can sense when their humans are sad, I think.
Much love
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Message 25
Posted by Dapply (U2437462) on Monday, 6th June 2011
Thank you for all the hugs.
Saffie has been so cuddly today. I had a long cry before and then I got this big wet nose stuck in my face as if to say "wot you doin'?" and several big licks.
Just now she is cuddling Mr D for all she is worth. Bless her -
Message 26
Posted by Marmalade Drizzle (U2239190) on Tuesday, 7th June 2011
Can I ask a question? [looks like you just have -Ed]
Are german shepherds supposed to moult this much? The fur has been coming out of new dog like nobodies buisness. She is currently being groomed daily but it still lies about in patches on the carpet. I'm having to vaccuum twice a day and everytime I pet her the fur comes out in clouds.
The setters fur/hair doesn't do this!
marms -
Message 27
Posted by Prinkma (U14661090) on Tuesday, 7th June 2011
Learn to love it :¬ ( And buy a Miele Pet Vacuum. It's the only one that works with pet hairs. Alternatively, get kids in trainers to scrub their feet all over the carpet, that gets the hairs out. As you can tell, I've been the owner of a GS in my time. The male chihuahua I have now has the same problem, doesn't matter how I brush him, whereas the female seems to have an ordinary coat that doesn't shed.
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Message 28
Posted by Marmalade Drizzle (U2239190) on Tuesday, 7th June 2011
Phew that's a relief!
I was begining to think there was something wrong with her and I know that sounds silly given that it's probably only a seasonal moult but she has also had diahrrea(ap) * overnight and today, and looks terribly thin and given the experience we had with the first setter ... well - I worry.
Right so I now have to persuade the kids to wear trainers... to be honest the kids don't hellp as they wander around in socks and spread the fur** about. I have a dyson animal which worked well with 3 cats and a setter but it's begining to struggle with this additional dog so I'll make a note of the miele for when it goes to appliance heaven.
In the meantime Middle Drizzle has been collecting the fur in a plastic bag and ams to stuff a cushion with it!
Marms
* sorry to mention poo on the first page.
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Message 29
Posted by fairy hedgehog (U1485678) on Wednesday, 8th June 2011
> stuff a cushion <
When I had two golden retrievers I collected a huge ball of fluffy dog hair from my floors every week and I considered getting a book about knitting a jumper from it.
I wouldn't fancy cleaning and spinning it.
I'm getting quite excited about a new English Setter puppy coming to live in our village. The woman who is getting the puppy used to have two old setters and one died a few months ago. She's selected a new puppy from a litter that is three weeks old, so it will be another five weeks before she can get the puppy, and I suppose it will be another three or four weeks after that before I get to see it.
I do like puppies.
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Message 30
Posted by Marmalade Drizzle (U2239190) on Wednesday, 8th June 2011
<< I do like puppies. >>
... so do I! Especially english setter puppies! what colour has she chosen? Orange or blue?
I spent this morning cutting up and assembling some new dog beds out of some old bedding. It didn't occur to me until afterwards to have added some of the GSDs hair to it. Funnily enough I did offer to make MD a dog hair jumper but I don't have the time to devote to the spinning of it. Plus people might think that I'm bonkers.
Anyway, the dogs have matching day beds for the lounge one on either side of the door. I have just spent the last few minutes pursading them to lie mirror-matching each other so that they look like door sentinels! It's very pleaseing to the eye and they are both asleep so the new beds are a success! Hurrah!
marms -
Message 31
Posted by fairy hedgehog (U1485678) on Wednesday, 8th June 2011
> Plus people might think that I'm bonkers. <
Ahem. They might already have a slight inkling that you are.
I don't know what colour the new puppy is. When she had two, she had one of each colour, but only the orange one is still with us. They are really lovely dogs.
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Message 32
Posted by Marmalade Drizzle (U2239190) on Wednesday, 8th June 2011
Thinking about it... I don't know if it is obvious at 3 weeks what colour they are.
Apparently they also come in lemon.
Yes lovely dogs. Super nature.
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But very VERY thick!
marms -
Message 33
Posted by dondy (U3463640) on Wednesday, 8th June 2011
Hi all
Crocs are also good for scraping fur off carpets. Not sure what it doesa to the carpet though...
dondy -
Message 34
Posted by Prinkma (U14661090) on Wednesday, 8th June 2011
Hi all
Crocs are also good for scraping fur off carpets. Not sure what it doesa to the carpet though...
»å´Ç²Ô»å²âÌý I see we share housekeeping styles
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Message 35
Posted by Kishtu (U14091165) on Thursday, 9th June 2011
Hey all, just posted on Andromedakraken's thread about someone to take care of pup, I had a similar situation a couple of years ago where we had someone at work go into hospital and Posh was very helpful in trying to find respite care for Charlie.
Has anyone seen Posh around lately or can ask her to look in, cos I bet she'll know a man who can?
Medhuil (former owner of Medium Sized Biscuit-Coloured Dog who used to eat whistles) -
Message 36
Posted by Doodlysquat (U13738858) on Thursday, 9th June 2011
Urgent advice needed.
I don't post here often but follow the thread with interest and would like to ask the advice of the many knowledgable people here.
Son and DiL have two Jack Russell bitches. Claude is excitable, affectionate and dominant. Peggy is calm, sweet natured and submissive. They also have a 9 month old son who has suddenly become very mobile...crawling at great speed. Today the baby was crawling across the floor and touched the sleeping Claude who snapped at his face.
Baby's parents are very worried about the situation. Claude is not ill, the baby did not cause her any pain but was doing what babies do by nature.
I don't think that Claude can ever really be trusted and while they don't leave the dogs with the baby unsupervised there is still a risk that she may harm the child. As the baby is now mobile I think the stress of having to watch her constantly will not be good for them...or for Claude. She is *very* excitable and also territorial.
So...if they decide to rehome her how do they deal with Peggy who is utterly devoted to Claude. DiL will be returning to work in September and the dogs are usually left at home during the day with access to the garden through a dog flap.
My feeling about Claude is that they will have to rehome her, she is very sweet most of the time but I have never thought of her as a dog that I would trust. The bungalow they live in is not huge, the dogs have access to most of it. It is not practical to keep them to one area only.
I'm just looking for your thoughts really. Any advice would be most welcome.
suze -
Message 37
Posted by Moonflower (U2267264) on Thursday, 9th June 2011
I'm sure somebody more expert will be along soon, but in my opinion it would be much kinder to rehome them together. Seperating them would be harsh on both dogs. I would also try the breed rescue people, and do so as soon as possible as it may take a little while to find a home for them.
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Message 38
Posted by Prinkma (U14661090) on Thursday, 9th June 2011
If the dog didn't connect then it was just a warning. I had two small quite crabby dogs when I had babies. As long as the babies don't scrag the dogs, there's no problem. The baby will smell of the parents, so will be considered just part of the pack. I used to growl at the dogs if they came near the first baby, but allow them to sniff at it to get familiar.
It's important for them to understand the difference between a warning from a dog that was asleep, got a fright and gave a warning, and a dog that bites. I think everyone is over-reacting to a dog getting a fright. 'snapping' is a bite that doesn't connect, and isn't meant to connect.
I suspect the dogs will need protecting from the child more than vice versa. And I feel for the dogs. People get rid of dogs for no reason at all when they have small children, instead of helping the child to understand that dogs aren't toys, and have to be treated with respect. -
Message 39
Posted by Doodlysquat (U13738858) on Thursday, 9th June 2011
Thankyou Moonflower. I had not thought about rehoming both of them, to be honest. That may be the answer though I'm not sure that my son and DiL will be keen on it. There is a possibility that Claude could go to a friend of my son's MiL who knows Claude and is fond of her.
I think Peggy would miss her for a while but would then get over it and settle down again. Are we overreacting? Maybe it was a one off? ~My feeling, and that of the parents is that the risk is too great. Claude is adorable, she really is...but.....
suze -
Message 40
Posted by Prinkma (U14661090) on Thursday, 9th June 2011
What would you do if someone grabbed your face when you were sound asleep? But probably best to re-home them if the owners are prepared to get rid of them the second they act like dogs.
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Message 41
Posted by Doodlysquat (U13738858) on Thursday, 9th June 2011
Prinkma....yes, I do agree with you. The snap was a warning. Both my sons grew up with dogs and both of them recieved warnings when the dogs had had enough!
suze -
Message 42
Posted by Doodlysquat (U13738858) on Thursday, 9th June 2011
Prinkma...It's not a case of wanting to get rid of them the second they act like dogs. I am asking advice about how to deal with a situation. Both the dogs are greatly loved....getting rid of Claude will not be something done on a whim, I assure you.
suze -
Message 43
Posted by Prinkma (U14661090) on Thursday, 9th June 2011
I'm just being cranky!!!
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Message 44
Posted by Doodlysquat (U13738858) on Thursday, 9th June 2011
Dear Cranky,
Here...have a glass of gin.
Love
suze...crankless and fancy free. -
Message 45
Posted by Constance (U14594138) on Thursday, 9th June 2011
Terriers are never a good idea with small children. The dogs are designed to seek and kill small squeaky things, like rats and rabbits; so they will see a small child in much the same way.
Even with other breeds, my advice to people has been to ensure the children learn to respect the dogs and leave them alone if the dogs go to their own areas i.e. their bed.
If you want to keep the JRTs then I suggest you have permanent indoor crates for them, and while the child is about, the dogs are confined to the crates. Properly introduced, this isn't a punishment, but a place of safety for the dogs. Giving them a treat, especially that keeps them occupied, like a meat stuffed Kong will help them associate the child with a pleasant activity for them.
I have a collie I place in a kennel and run when I have client dogs around. He can see what is going on, but is not bothered by the other dogs invading his space.
Dogs are very adaptable, so I don't think it is necessary to rehome together if you go down the rehoming route. It's more important that they go to someone who understands the mind set of terriers and can meet their needs.
Before making any decision, are you able to consult a good dog behavourist / trainer who could help you manage the dogs and teach you how to keep the dogs happy while the baby is growing up?
HTH
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Message 46
Posted by Doodlysquat (U13738858) on Thursday, 9th June 2011
Thankyou LK. The crate sounds like a good idea and I will suggest it. The baby is 9 months old and previous to this Claude has been no problem at all. She is very protective of her "pack" and has not been agressive prior to this. She is not a calm dog, a bit yappy to be honest and very bossy but still adorable.
I think son and DiL will have to teach the baby that the dogs are not to be trifled with and must be treated with respect.
suze -
Message 47
Posted by Prinkma (U14661090) on Thursday, 9th June 2011
Thanks for the gin. Hic.
(that reminds me ... in the fridge I happen to have a pre-mixed can of Gordon's Gin and tonic!) -
Message 48
Posted by Moonflower (U2267264) on Friday, 10th June 2011
We successfully combined babies and terriers, children are now 17 and 14 and nobody ever got bitten.....
Our children were taught never ever ever to disturb one of the dogs in their bed (dogs bed not childs) This meant the dogs always knew they had a safe place to retreat to.
The dogs were taught never ever ever to take food from a small child. Its very tempting for a terrier when a child carries a biscuit at dog nose height. And very easy to move from picking up what a child has dropped to encouraging said child to hand it over....
It can be done, but it takes time and committment. For example its awfully easy to spend less time with the dogs when children can be so time consuming, and a bored, underexercised terrier can be trouble. -
Message 49
Posted by Prinkma (U14661090) on Friday, 10th June 2011
Somewhere in a drawer I have photos of daughter #1, barely able to walk, staggering along holding her rusk up over her head, followed everywhere by two dachsunds focused on the rusk. That was her default way of walking at the time. Mine were girls, so not very rumbunctious, but with a boy I'd definitely provide a safe place for the dogs.
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Message 50
Posted by Lilo (U12007400) on Friday, 10th June 2011
Morning everyone from me and Murphy. ( gone back to bed sensible chap )
I feel a bit like I'm stalking Prinkma, but we appear to have the same interest in art/craft and dogs, although having said that I haven't actually said anything yet in the A/C threads, so ignore me as I rabbit to myself...
Anyway, all good advice re children and dogs up there I see. Last weekend my grandsons came to visit in our new home by the sea. Ages 6 and 2.5 they adored Murph and he was a bit smitten with them especially when they had a crack of dawn roar round the beach down the road. I explained about being careful with him as he's so small, especially his ears which he occasionally yelps about if my ear-wriggling gets a bit violent! They didn't give him treats ( it's the rules ) or go near him when he's eating. He's the mildest of dogs and wouldn't care anyway, but of course we don't tell them that.
We've had Murph for over 7 months now and if anyone remembers how hesitant I was about taking him in, and how I wondered if I'd ever love him as much as Zeddy then I don't know why I even said it! < yes I know posh, it's not pretty to gloat >That woolly little chap has captured our hearts with his bouncy character, his confidence and ability to make us laugh out loud so often. Such a different character to Zed, who was insecure, quiet, sweet tempered but so different!
His fringe is dangling over over his eyes again and I still haven't had a chance to take him to a groomer. His new pal next door, the aloof yorkie, is ultra trimmed for the summer so he's asking can I go where he goes Mum. ( oh dear it's sad isn't it? ).
Anyway, love to all the new dogs who arrived at the Dog Club when Murph did, the even newer ones that I haven't spotted and the lovely oldies.
Lilo and Murphy xx
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