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Message 1.Ìý
Posted by LostInML (U13646691) on Tuesday, 21st June 2011
21st June... summer solstice... the start of summer...
After so many dark, dank months of winter comes the burgeoning of life with spring and now we've finally made summer. Maybe the thought of holidays (bikinis, beaches and all that jazz...) has brought the matter of healthy living to the forefront of your attention; maybe you just want to think about living in a way that's better for you overall. Whatever your reasoning, this is the place to be! We're a friendly bunch who really want to eat well, live well and stay healthy. The only rule we have is not to mention real life weights or sizes, in case we put anyone else off. This is not a competition, after all; we're aiming to be the healthiest we can be and value each other's encouragement and advice.
Other threads that help us keep on the straight and narrow are:
GEm's Gym, to talk about exercise and the role this plays in maintaining a healthy lifestyle
Katy's Cookbook, where we can exchange tasty recipes that won't pile on the calories
We also have a Rota thread, to start up a new discussion each week. It's looking a bit empty at the moment, so do sign up and keep the chat flowing!
So come along in and let's get living! -
Message 2
Posted by orange pekoe (U9563764) on Tuesday, 21st June 2011
Bikinis??? Bikiiiiiinniiiiiis??? At this hour of the morning? Thanks Lost!
In all seriousness, thanks for opening up - this is gettting to be an all too regular job for you, so I will stick my name down on the rota thread too at some point.
Hope people are having a better week than me - I'm having a bit of a stupid, childish "don't wanna eat helfy" moment. I'm being very grown up in other areas of my life, which at times focusses me in all parts, and at times like this (possibly hormone-related too) makes me pointlessly destructive. -
Message 3
Posted by orange pekoe (U9563764) on Tuesday, 21st June 2011
Oh, and meant to say well done for getting us on that (admittedly ridiculous and a bit annoying tbh, but anyway...) Recent Discussions list - we'll be there all day now, woo hoo!
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Message 4
Posted by Fire-Pig - proud to wave the protest banner (U12231213) on Tuesday, 21st June 2011
Thanks Lost. What's the secret to getting onto Recent Discussions? !!
OP you are me and I claim my £5 - or summat. I have times when I am so good and then .... and then ... I must start pinning quotes to the fridge.
Yesterday I tried to do one of my local walks at lunch time, it was wonderful weather, then, and I met so many friends that it became a chatting amble not my striding out as intended. Still I believe having and maintaining friendships is part of a healthy life so not all to the bad. That particular walk is not obvious to tourists and I think of it as my "Welsh" walk. Every time I meet a stranger they greet me in Welsh, most of the conversations I overhear as I pass are in Welsh. Some days I do another walk, which is far more obvious to tourists and there the language spoken is English. Both walks give superb views of Snowdonia and time for reflection on the glories of nature.
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Message 5
Posted by orange pekoe (U9563764) on Tuesday, 21st June 2011
OP you are me and I claim my £5 - or summatÌý
You mean these five *lbs* F-P? [wink]
Walked today (hurray)
Want chocolate (boo*)
*not you, boo decker. btw, I totally understand why you got upset in that staff meeting, but I'm sure the praise of the other teacher was not intended to be at your expense. How are you to know s/he is not feeling unfavourably compared to you some of the time, if you're trusted with the huge class of 35, which includes more herberts than their 20 or so? Also, as a parent, I'm intrigued to know how your school decides their class sizes...seems very mysterious from the outside! -
Message 6
Posted by LostInML (U13646691) on Tuesday, 21st June 2011
Goodness, there can't have been many discussions, eh, if we made it to the 'Recent Discussions' list!!
Awful day today. A mistake on the maths GCSE paper (so much paperwork generated from someone else's mistake: how can /that/ be fair?) Then my boss went on and on effusively about me as a PSHE teacher (all because I organised a friend to come in to school to talk about a charity...) How will I ever get out of it now? You know when you're complimented and you should be grateful but actually you can feel the grave being dug beneath your own feet? Never had that feeling? Must just be me, then...
Chaos all around at work, including masses of tests to mark tonight, reports looming and general wrong time of the month to be eating healthily and feeling good about myself. Huh. Off to the bath now... Blessed peace beckons, however temporarily...! -
Message 7
Posted by Fire-Pig - proud to wave the protest banner (U12231213) on Wednesday, 22nd June 2011
Oh Lost I am so sorry you have had all that extra hassle. Stick your grounds over the PHSE.
When I had my last counselling I said that I had behaved like a naughty little girl saying "Shan't do it! Can't do it!" about all the extra pressure at work until I got my assistants. His comment was along the lines of that I had behaved like an adult saying 'this will make me ill, I cannot continue, you will have more problems if I have to take sick leave'. So, please remember you are behaving like an adult you are saying that it will make you ill, of course you are doing your best, including bringing the charity speaker but that is the limit. They will have more problems covering for you if you are ill? It is their problem not yours who will teach PHSE - something I find very difficult to take on board. I am also learning, slowly, to say "I am flattered that you think I can do this too, which of my current jobs do you want me to give up so that I can fit it in?" I think you are the exams officer - perhaps you could offer to give that up so that you can teach the PHSE (only if you are sure they are not going call your bluff!)
OP I did wonder about lbs and £s myself!
Yesterday was spent in training another new assistant - at this rate there will be about 10 people who can do it, but each has to be trained individually which can be very tiring. Yesterday's is in again today for a second day, she will be good when she has more confidence.
Hey ho off to work we go!
KOKO one and all
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Message 8
Posted by FlufflesB (U14188870) on Wednesday, 22nd June 2011
Hello All
Fluffles is back and despite saying she would never 'diet' again is back on one and have just started the Dukan.
Before getting to what I have popped in for, can I say to Lost, do not be swayed by the 'but you are so good at it' load of flannel that those who want you to do something will come out with. You may be extremely good at it, just like you can be extremely good at a lot of things because that is how you approach a task given to you. It does not mean you need to soldier on with something you obviously dislike (as did I, with a vengeance). Be firm, if there is a way out, take it. I know timetables, staffing etc are a minefield so I will say no more as I am not privy to the ins and outs of your establishment or your particular situation and everywhere is different.
OK, back to my reason for returning, well, it is my big belly and inability to get into most of my 'thinner' trousers plus the return of the back fat. I was doing reasonably well with portion control but got far too complacent, after all, portion control loses its effectiveness in the face of Hot Chocs, red wine and stilton.
I know one of our posters was/is on the Dukan - Birdy??
If so, just a little bit of advice please re the Oat Bran. Level tablespoons?
With my portion control abilities, (that is an ironic statement), I can make a tablespoon vary by a tablespoons worth of food. I would prefer to weigh it, any ideas what it is supposed to weigh??
Enjoy the sunshine, if you are getting any of it
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Message 9
Posted by orange pekoe (U9563764) on Wednesday, 22nd June 2011
Hello again Fluffles. In a very similar situation to you regards both portion control and 'interesting' food choices.
You asked about Birdy - she definitely got on well with the Dukan, and hasn't been visiting the thread for a good few weeks. If you spot her elsewhere I'm sure she'd be happy to help!
Just want to reiterate the advice to Lost - stick to your guns, lass. Get a 'broken record' phrase in your mind that you can use. Remember what F-P's counsellor said - you are doing this as a grown-up, knowing that it is quite simply a step too far on top of everything else you have to do.
I'm frustrated for you that it's popped up again - I'd got the impression from a few weeks back that you'd made your position clear and you weren't going to be expected to do it. Grr. -
Message 10
Posted by Miftrefs Laura in Lothian bufily ftitching (U2587870) on Wednesday, 22nd June 2011
Just want to reiterate the advice to Lost - stick to your guns, lass. Get a 'broken record' phrase in your mind that you can use. Remember what F-P's counsellor said - you are doing this as a grown-up, knowing that it is quite simply a step too far on top of everything else you have to do.Ìý
Can I do my Air Stewardess bit here? Can I? Can I? Pleeeease?
Right, you know when you sit on a plane before take-off and they do the "emergency exists are here, here and here" spiel?
That bit about oxygen masks... think... think.... never listened properly? Okay, I'll tell you.
they say: If you are travelling with someone dependent on you (ie small child/ baby, invalid, disabled person), then you must *PUT* *YOUR* *OWN* *MASK* *ON* *FIRST* and then help the other person.
You are no good to man nor beast (nor air-travel companion) if you are dead.
It is NOT selfish or childish or lazy to calmly and quietly ask for your rights to be observed (wish I'd done it a long time ago re PhD, am lucky the lovely Examiners read between the lines for me).
Nobody is indispensable - but they may well find you are rather missed if you have to take long-term sick-leave. So avoid the sick-leave by behaving like you would advise me to behave, hmmm?
Honestly, see mothers? Hopeless, the lot of you
I am right, I think, in that you have all got children, hence you have trained yourselves over years and years and years to put yourselves last in all things - which is lovely for us offspring but LOUSY for you mums! Do your offspring a favour and learn to write your own name on your list of priorities. It should really be on there...
[Bossy mode _OFF_]
Still eating to plan here with my CRONometer and finding it a great giggle. It really does help me. Last ngiht I wanted something to nibble and there were two or three options and the Cron helped me choose the healthier one, which I couldn't have done just from the calories listed on the labels.
It surprises me that if I eat three sensible healthy meals a day there is still scope for a treat; whereas if I cheat earlier and nibble and graze then suddenly it's only 3pm and I've eaten my entire day's allowances!
laura -
Message 11
Posted by Fire-Pig - proud to wave the protest banner (U12231213) on Wednesday, 22nd June 2011
Laura how come you are so sensible?
Are you going to change your monicker now?
F-P -
Message 12
Posted by Miftrefs Laura in Lothian bufily ftitching (U2587870) on Wednesday, 22nd June 2011
Laura how come you are so sensible?Ìý
Because I've always had to work out why on earth people behave in such mysterious ways, maybe! I'm not sensible in lots of other ways, but the bits I have come up with a Theory for do tend to keep fitting the Theory.
And my Theory of Mums does involve the fact that they (Caution: wild over-generalisation ahead. Please take alternative road if easily offended) quite often end up with everyone leaning on them so hard that all the Mums' energy is sapped, leaving little or none for themselves. So they let Me-Stuff slip, because it doesn't matter, because the kids/ husband/ employer is more important, so then they start to value themselves less. So then they don't bother even if they do have a few moments of spare time and energy, because by then it is a habit to dismiss the concept that *I* *DAMN* *WELL* *MATTER*. so then they end up in MFC wondering why they are under-nourished, exhausted, over-worked, and generally fairly dispirited.
So, go back to the maternity ward and try to remember how you thought then. You were the most exhausted anyone can ever be (from what little I know of labour... [shudder]), but you felt wonderful, right? I bet even though you were a sweaty, quivering heap, you combed your hair and put the fresh bed-jacket on before the photos were taken, yes?
We offspring don't want you to think you don't count. We KNOW you count. For a lot. Even if we forget to tell you and show you. And your colleagues and friends ditto.
Go and look in the mirror, MFC-Mums, and look into your eyes and remember how they shone in the maternity ward... and now tell me my Theory of Mums is wrong!
Like I said, wild over-generalising... but something along those lines seems to happen more often to mums than to non-mums, ime...
Are you going to change your monicker now?Ìý
Oops, yes, I should do!
Food diary lifted from my Cronometer software:
Food, then quantity, then calories
Bananas, raw 2 extra small (less than 6" long) 144.2
Carbonated beverage, low calorie, cola or pepper-type, with aspartame, without caffeine 2 can 12 fl oz 7.1
Waitrose Dry-Roasted Peanuts 25 g 129.0
M&S sliced pork loin 5 slice 72.5
Tomatoes, red, ripe, raw, year round average 3 medium whole (2-3/5" dia) 66.4
Cheese, camembert 40 g 120.0
Cheese, Mini-Babybel Light 1 Wheel 50.0
Chicken breast, oven-roasted, fat-free, sliced 65 g 51.4
Spinach, raw 40 g 9.2
Lettuce, red leaf, raw 20 g 3.2
Tomatoes, red, ripe, raw, year round average 3 medium whole (2-3/5" dia) 66.4
Onions, spring or scallions (includes tops and bulb), raw 5 large 40.0
mum's salad dressing 2 Serving 112.5
Oil, walnut 1 tbsp 120.2
Total for the day:
992 cals (71% of my target 1400)
Which means I can have a flapjack (199 cals) and a lump of cheese (120 cals) to nibble tonight and be well under 2,000 calories (that's why I set it to 1400)
Long post, sorry!
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Message 13
Posted by pigsrlovely (U14715579) on Wednesday, 22nd June 2011
Scales pointed in the wrong direction at weigh in this morning. Am thoroughly disappointed but not surprised as know I have made unhealthy and fattening food choices.
I know I am stressed but its not an excuse. I have got to mend my ways and overcome a lifetime of using food as a comfort. Its not that when I have eaten whatever it was that I absolutely must eat which is laden with calories - makes me comforted. It doesnt. So i am writing this to make me realise I can do something about it. I can stop eating too much, at the wrong times of the wrong foods. I have just got to stop being wrong and get sorted. There - said it - now have got to do it. -
Message 14
Posted by LostInML (U13646691) on Thursday, 23rd June 2011
You're on the way, pigsrlovely. Realising you have a choice and CAN do something about it rather than succumbing to the -I'm-so-stressed-that-I-might-as-well-just-eat-this-next-thing-as-well-because-I'm-drowning-anyway philosophy we often embrace. The next step, as you say, is actually doing it.
Thanks for all your lovely advice and encouragement. I am now working on the 'it will be worse for you if I crack up' line of thinking and persuasion. Yes, I can do lots of jobs. Yes, I like most of them. Yes, I even like teaching PSHE some of the time. But I don't like doing any job not to the best of my ability and I simply don't have the time to do all these jobs to the best of my ability, which creates internal stress. Next year is my jaunt to France (aka as school residential trip), which cranks up the stress levels as it is (it feels like a military operation organising that in itself!), so I know I can't cope with this year's workload plus that. I am working on the 'prevention is better than cure' philosophy, but like so many things, people can't see the cost effectiveness of that.
Today we have yet another staff meeting about it. My Head thinks he has a plan. I think the plan (such as he's mentioned so far) involves papering over the cracks. I am therefore girding my loins or whatever for further reiteration along the lines that they can do what they like as long as it doesn't involve me doing it. However, as Laura has pointed out, a lifetime of thinking other people have more rights than I do combined with a tendency to feel guilty at the drop of a hat all make this quite hard for me to do...
However, I'm going to try. -
Message 15
Posted by LostInML (U13646691) on Thursday, 23rd June 2011
aka and redundant as.... My proof-reading skills are slipping.
Meant to mention about teaspoons and tablespoons mentioned upthread. I too think measurements are less subjective. My portion control is wildly unreliable, whereas weighing ingredients is not. But I don't know enough about the Dukan diet to help you, sorry. -
Message 16
Posted by GEm (U4356909) on Thursday, 23rd June 2011
Here's one mum who has always thought she deserved "me time" - not always got it but never stopped believing I was worth it. Also even when money has been tight I always made sure I budgetted time and money for hair, waxing and gave myself manicures/pedicures/facials.
PRL - having recognised that your "comfort eating" doesn't actually make you feel better could you perhaps replace it with something that will. Don't know how money is but if you could find yourself someone who does aromatherapy massage or facials or pedicure/manicure or something and have that as your comfort/treat or just go and get a wash and blowdry or whatever you have on your hair. Get one of those clip close boxes about the size of a man's shoe box and go to Boots and fill it with Sanctuary spa stuff for a facial/ stuff for a manicure & pedicure including some nice polishes and base/top coat. Treat yourself to a couple of the Sanctuary candles and some of their bath stuff. Then when you are in need of "Comfort" & your therapist can't fit you in instead of heading for the chocolate get out your box and pick your treat - a bath with candles/a facial with a relax and possibly candles or a manicure/pedicure.
You'll feel pampered & beautiful and you won't have eaten chocolate
Would that work for you? -
Message 17
Posted by Miftrefs Laura in Lothian bufily ftitching (U2587870) on Thursday, 23rd June 2011
Good for you, GEm! Glad to hear my Theory of Mums isn't universal
having recognised that your "comfort eating" doesn't actually make you feel better could you perhaps replace it with something that will.Ìý
My budget varies and at times when I really can't stretch to even the own-brand treats, it's amazing what you can make a couple of quid do.
One lemon: cut in half, cut one slice off. Squeeze one half and use in a bowl of hand-hot water to soak feet or hands in before a DIY manicure/ pedicure. It softens skin, and brightens grubby calloused knuckles. Squeeze the other half and use half of that to make a 'citron pressé' by adding a little water and sugar to taste for a zingy brightening pick-me-up drink. Use the other half to comb through wet washed hair before drying to give it a lift (yes, it does eventually give blonde highlights but only if you use it a lot of times in the sun! Just combed through, it acts like a setting lotion without the smell). Use the slice of lemon to zap any impending blemishes or spots.
Jar of honey: smear all over your face, neck and decolletage as a cleansing moisturising skin treatment - best done in the bath for obvious reasons! Use runny honey (or mix set honey with warm water to a liquid) as a hair conditioner, rinsing VERY well with warm water for silky soft tangle-free hair.
Kitchen herbs: chop fresh herbs and pour boiling water over them, leave for 24 hours and then sieve and refrigerate. After hair-washing, tip your head over a basin and pour the cold herb-tea through your towel-dried hair, scoop back up in a jug and re-pour a few times for a beautifully-scented hair-tonic. Chamomile teabags are traditional for blonde hair, sage or rosemary for dark hair. If your garden has nettles, they will give your hair a lovely gloss made into tea this way!
So you can do it on a budget too... what's important is that you are investing in yourself... spending time and effort on YOU.
I hope I don't sound too hectoring or bossy! It's not meant that way...
laura -
Message 18
Posted by Fire-Pig - proud to wave the protest banner (U12231213) on Thursday, 23rd June 2011
Laura, love the new monicker - however I wish the software allowed the posts made with one particular name still have that name showing and then posts made after the name change had that one.
I do think many of your ideas about Mums are true. I am trying hard to make more time for myself and really really want to tidy my workspace and sit down and make some cards. I have just been dumping stuff there lately. It is easier to sit and play on the computer and achieve nothing after work than to go upstairs and put in some work to be able to do something I really enjoy and gives pleasure to others when they receive the cards. Sometimes I wish I really understood myself!
Today I have had some me time - I had to go to Llandudno fairly early to give a blood sample for an Ovarian Cancer Test Screening Trial - I think I have got that right. For the last 10 years I have given an annual sample, others have ultra sound screening and yet more are in a control group. Apparently they are very pleased with the results, this is the last year of blood tests. Anyway, OH and I spent the day together, and after much deliberation we ordered an iPad 2 for his birthday next month - it is a big one this year - he's a Metal Snake. It was good to spend time together - we then called into the Waitrose (by Royal Appointment) on Anglesey - but didn't see anyone interesting there.
Altogether a very enjoyable day together, good for mental health - but probably too many calories consumed!
F-P -
Message 19
Posted by pigsrlovely (U14715579) on Thursday, 23rd June 2011
Here's one mum who has always thought she deserved "me time" - not always got it but never stopped believing I was worth it. Also even when money has been tight I always made sure I budgetted time and money for hair, waxing and gave myself manicures/pedicures/facials.
PRL - having recognised that your "comfort eating" doesn't actually make you feel better could you perhaps replace it with something that will. Don't know how money is but if you could find yourself someone who does aromatherapy massage or facials or pedicure/manicure or something and have that as your comfort/treat or just go and get a wash and blowdry or whatever you have on your hair. Get one of those clip close boxes about the size of a man's shoe box and go to Boots and fill it with Sanctuary spa stuff for a facial/ stuff for a manicure & pedicure including some nice polishes and base/top coat. Treat yourself to a couple of the Sanctuary candles and some of their bath stuff. Then when you are in need of "Comfort" & your therapist can't fit you in instead of heading for the chocolate get out your box and pick your treat - a bath with candles/a facial with a relax and possibly candles or a manicure/pedicure.
You'll feel pampered & beautiful and you won't have eaten chocolate
Would that work for you?Ìý Thanks for your advice. I have acupuncture monthly which helps me to sleep. I have just been a volunteer on a course for reflexology and indian head massage. Absolutely fascinating. It has been a year long course but it has really wetted my appetite and I am going to try and read up further.
Have been giving one and only son foot massages every night. We live in quite a cold house and when it is warm I also give him a back massage. We both feel the benefit. A bit of mum and son bonding and I know his feet are better as I can feel the difference.
I used to give hubby and indian head massage but find my back really aches if I try and massage both hubby and son - so son wins as it were!!
I think I am a giving person. I dont really like or probably appreciate having treatments myself. So I am content to apply treatments and love using aromatherapy oils.
When studying Indian Head Massage I loved the mixing of the oils and doing blends which were appropriate. I always thought lavender smelt strange but its weird now as I love it as it is so versatile and relaxing.
I hope everyone has had a good day and feeling healthy and happy. -
Message 20
Posted by pigsrlovely (U14715579) on Thursday, 23rd June 2011
Laura - thanks for your suggestions. Will go and buy some lemons and runny honey tom. Feel quite excitied.
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Message 21
Posted by GEm (U4356909) on Thursday, 23rd June 2011
Ooh PRL - do you want to come and do my feet sometime???? please????
Seriously you have just said what makes you feel good - so when you need comfort do something along those lines and you mke someone else feel good too. Alternatively why not mix som of those oils for bath for youself.
My therapist who does my massages says she enjoys doing them for people. She's a mate as well but I pay her properly for her professional services (though i suspect I get mate's rates!). I quite like giving my OH a back massage though I have no trianing and am probably quite naff at it - he is good enough to ooh and aah in all the right places!
Can only do it when there's just the two of us here as one thing usually leads to another...... tmi!
G -
Message 22
Posted by pigsrlovely (U14715579) on Thursday, 23rd June 2011
GEm, would do your feet anytime
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Message 23
Posted by anagramladysin (U14258840) on Thursday, 23rd June 2011
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Message 24
Posted by pigsrlovely (U14715579) on Saturday, 25th June 2011
*Ìý Yep agree - it doesnt scan well. But you know what I mean.
Am having an awful am hungry, am hungry, am hungry day. Good job am wearing elasticated stretchy thingy trousers. -
Message 25
Posted by LostInML (U13646691) on Saturday, 25th June 2011
The asterisk usually means Ana's bookmarking us and will come to talk later...
I've put on weight this week (last week's pizza counting on this week's scales). Feel rough today with hay fever or something, so didn't swim for as long as usual. I know what you mean about the am-hungry days, pigsrlovely.
Might have won the PSHE battle. Am waiting for final confirmation of revised plans from other staff & Governors. Have administrative things to help with, but no teaching from September, I hope...! -
Message 26
Posted by GuzziNut (U6364582) on Saturday, 25th June 2011
Really hope you've got that nailed, lost
I find telling people that, unlike an amoeba, i can't undergo binary fission, therefore there is only one of me -
Message 27
Posted by pigsrlovely (U14715579) on Saturday, 25th June 2011
Thats really good news regarding PHSE Lost. Well done.
Thanks for telling me about bookmarking. This site is just fascinating. Absolutely love learning about new things. -
Message 28
Posted by boo decker (U10848648) on Saturday, 25th June 2011
Hello all,
I'm here again having achieved nothing on the healthy front this week < sigh >
Orange P.... as to class sizes... we have a standard number of 40 in each year group. That means we have to admit 40 children into year 3 say before we can say no. 40 is either 2 classes of 20 or 1 of 30 and 1 of 10. In practice we get about 35 in a year group. The head prefers to keep numbers down so we have mixed age classes, he feel small class sizes benefit the kids we teach and the staff. HOWEVER he believes that mixed age classes don't work with year 6 as they are facing the dreaded SATs and, while we don't teach to the test yada yada, we may need to focus on a few key points over and over again. Thus I have 35 headcases in year 6 while my colleague has 24 year 4 and 5 kids. I have the 35 headcases because I volunteered..... staff left suddenly and there was no time left to appoint someone for the year. I said I'd take them for a second year as I felt they needed a steady presence all year.....I am an insane person I know!
Right, now I need a strong talking to as I am failing miserably at all this healthy weight loss lark. I have struggled with my weight all my adult life. I believed I was grossly overweight at uni and began to diet and since then I have just got larger and larger and larger. I have lost weight three times....... Twice with SW and once in the dim and distant past with Fat Units.
I don't know what to do anymore. OH resents the money I spend failing with formalised diets and so do I. I hate how I look and the fact that I am aching all over and can't play as much with my kids as I want to and yet something holds me back and I don't know what.......
Maybe its the fact that I feel a bit resentful about restricting what I eat? I want to be a normal person who eats normally and isn't forever 'on a diet' and yet I don't eat normally.... I eat far too much and I eat in secret, mostly choclate, hiding the evidence from OH. If I go out to get petrol on my own I calculate how much choclate I can eat in the car on my way home, buy it, stuff it in and not enjoy a bit of it.....
The whole 'eat small, eat nice' philosophy appeals to me as does listening to my body, not dieting and eating things I want and that my body wants.......
I know exercise is the key but I managed to train for the moonwalk, walking at speed 3/4 times a week over increasing distances and not lose a pound, not an ounce. I don't do running...... I have dodgy ankles!
So basically I'm at a loss..... I need someone to get inside my head I think...
Wail! HELP! -
Message 29
Posted by pigsrlovely (U14715579) on Saturday, 25th June 2011
Hello all,
I'm here again having achieved nothing on the healthy front this week < sigh >
Orange P.... as to class sizes... we have a standard number of 40 in each year group. That means we have to admit 40 children into year 3 say before we can say no. 40 is either 2 classes of 20 or 1 of 30 and 1 of 10. In practice we get about 35 in a year group. The head prefers to keep numbers down so we have mixed age classes, he feel small class sizes benefit the kids we teach and the staff. HOWEVER he believes that mixed age classes don't work with year 6 as they are facing the dreaded SATs and, while we don't teach to the test yada yada, we may need to focus on a few key points over and over again. Thus I have 35 headcases in year 6 while my colleague has 24 year 4 and 5 kids. I have the 35 headcases because I volunteered..... staff left suddenly and there was no time left to appoint someone for the year. I said I'd take them for a second year as I felt they needed a steady presence all year.....I am an insane person I know!
Right, now I need a strong talking to as I am failing miserably at all this healthy weight loss lark. I have struggled with my weight all my adult life. I believed I was grossly overweight at uni and began to diet and since then I have just got larger and larger and larger. I have lost weight three times....... Twice with SW and once in the dim and distant past with Fat Units.
I don't know what to do anymore. OH resents the money I spend failing with formalised diets and so do I. I hate how I look and the fact that I am aching all over and can't play as much with my kids as I want to and yet something holds me back and I don't know what.......
Maybe its the fact that I feel a bit resentful about restricting what I eat? I want to be a normal person who eats normally and isn't forever 'on a diet' and yet I don't eat normally.... I eat far too much and I eat in secret, mostly choclate, hiding the evidence from OH. If I go out to get petrol on my own I calculate how much choclate I can eat in the car on my way home, buy it, stuff it in and not enjoy a bit of it.....
The whole 'eat small, eat nice' philosophy appeals to me as does listening to my body, not dieting and eating things I want and that my body wants.......
I know exercise is the key but I managed to train for the moonwalk, walking at speed 3/4 times a week over increasing distances and not lose a pound, not an ounce. I don't do running...... I have dodgy ankles!
So basically I'm at a loss..... I need someone to get inside my head I think...
Wail! HELP!
Ìý It is hard losing weight. Food is nice.
I emphasise with you. Having used food as a comfort all my life it is so hard to break the habit. The ability to resist chocolate or biscuits - wish I had it. I dont have the ability and like you if it isnt in the cupboard then I will seek it out.
At the end of the day it is our body. We know that by eating choc it sort of solves whatever it is wrong. But it doesnt. We dont feel any better when we have eaten it. Well thats not true - for about half an hour after eating it - heaven - then the realisation sets in.
Guilt for not having the will power to resist.
Its not easy changing the habit of a lifetime. I really struggle and find I have to take tiny little steps and hope they add up. I do loads of exercise now. It is surprising how good it can make you feel. Not sure you have the time or the energy as it sounds like you have small children.
I know what you mean about how expensive it is joining slimming groups. Our NHS funds a lifestyle programme that enables you to get 12 weeks free membership to weight watchers or slimming world and 12 weeks swimming or gym time at the local council run place. Would it be worth seeing if your dr can put you on this programme.
I did the lifestyle programme and Ö÷²¥´óÐã midlands today filmed me talking about my success and followed me on my bike. The programme segment went out last month. I hope it encouraged others in the same boat as me - weight and health problems - and limited resources (money)
It was a step in the right direction. I need the support of a slimming group. My hubby is really supportive and quite strict and matter of fact about losing weight. Then people that do not have a weight problem are - it is so easy to be pragmatic and sensible when it is easy. Try being sensible when you feel like us.
But tht is what is needed. A positive and healthy attitude. Not easy - but emotional support is vital. If you need emotional support on this message board then I will do all I can to support you. -
Message 30
Posted by anagramladysin (U14258840) on Sunday, 26th June 2011
Oh Boo, you can only do so much at a time -- and I do know you have your hands full. Be gentle with yourself - don't beat yourself up - but do something for you each day. Like a twenty minute walk. And *this too will pass* --there are just phases in our lives when what we weigh is simply ot top of the list any more. Nor should it be. Just stay aware, and do as many of the right things as you can ... and all strength to you.
Hi pigsRL
and Lost (thanks for explaining my star)
My three broken ribs are mending and I am feeeling much better. Have been inundated with visitors - even now, one here for two weeks - but luckily she eats like I eat, so food is no problem. Though (sigh) the wine is .....
xxxx to you all xx ana -
Message 31
Posted by GuzziNut (U6364582) on Sunday, 26th June 2011
Woah loads of people in here late
First a pols for rubbish, just back from pub
Ana, glad ribs are healing
Boo half the battle with anything is realising what the problem is. Be it exercise, sorting out long term health problems, weight, My turning in too early when on a track day (soz, biker, died in the wool biker) the works, what ever it is, the initial part is realising
From yor post, you know what the problem is, that's good, no seriously, it is, it's really good, from there you can plan to try and sort it out
But From there it's tackling it with that knowledge and it takes time
As with, well anything, it's not an end point, it's a direction, but I think you know that, forward and back, thats how it goes
But we are all here to pick up the pieces, yup, even a decidedly plastered Guzzinut, really early on a sunday morning, lord how
Did that happen? No don't answer that
Its not so much restricting what you eat, it's moderation and favouring healthy stuff (yeah yeah I know, I'm a pain, I like healthy stuff)
GEm sed somewhere else thread, humans (well mammals really) bodies are programmed to hang onto fat, irritating isn't it? And as we get older it gets worse, quadruply irritating
Running isn't necessarily a key, I don't run, back and acillies tendon puts pay to that
So what ever exercise you do, your bod will get the hang of it and adapt, so variation helps -
Message 32
Posted by LostInML (U13646691) on Sunday, 26th June 2011
/I want to be a normal person who eats normally and isn't forever 'on a diet' and yet I don't eat normally.... I eat far too much and I eat in secret, mostly choclate, hiding the evidence from OH. If I go out to get petrol on my own I calculate how much choclate I can eat in the car on my way home, buy it, stuff it in and not enjoy a bit of it.....
The whole 'eat small, eat nice' philosophy appeals to me as does listening to my body, not dieting and eating things I want and that my body wants......./
Rebekah, I so identify with what you have written, with this sense of /wanting/ to be normal but feeling decidedly /abnormal/. I have had to face the fact that my relationship with food is /not/ normal and that I am addicted to it and therefore can't fully be trusted with it.
Despite making enormous progress on eating the right foods and in smaller amounts, I still seem to have a 'default setting' that wants to eat too much and too frequently. The 'feeling full' sensations that stop many people overeating don't seem to apply to me. Even when I feel full, I am perfectly capable of bargaining my mental way through more food, even when I don't enjoy it because I feel guilty.
I would like to understand the mental processes that lead me astray, but don't always feel I get to the bottom of why I am as I am.
I do resent the fact that this takes up a lot of time and effort and also I resent the fact that it is a lifelong battle. I want to be /cured/ so that it's not a battle anymore, but I suspect (as with most addictions), there is no such thing as a magic cure, more a daily decision to do the right thing. I don't always succeed. I can rationalise eating wrong things quite adequately (and others also do this for me, without realising that this is dangerous for me.)
I have had to accept that for me, eating well and exercising will be a lifelong attitude change that require a lot of effort - effort I would frankly rather put into other things. I have had to accept that there are triggers to bad behaviour I must recognise and avoid where possible (and these, for me, are wide and varied - stress, tiredness, illness, unhappiness, even happiness...) and that I have to find strategies to cope when I can't avoid those situations. I have had to accept that the ongoing effort does not always result in immediate change, much to my chagrin. I have had to change my thinking to believe that long-term success is more important than how I feel right now. I have had to learn to distrust my feelings an awful lot (since these same feelings tell me I'm hungry and urge me to eat to achieve something I don't understand...)
RIght now, I'm not in a good place. I can see weight creeping back on and desperately want to be more aggressive in how I handle that, but the lure of food is very tempting right now. I know that a zero tolerance approach works wonders, but having plateaued for so long, I am in that place of near surrender, shrugging my shoulders and saying 'what will be will be' when I know full well renewed effort and discipline will /always/ bear fruit! I just want to cry 'it's not fair; it's so difficult' which is such a wimpy attitude that I then despise myself for having that as my only defence. I'm back at the schizophrenic conversations with myself that some of you will know from previous posts. I'm living proof that the Gollum/ Smeagol scenarios in 'The Lord of the Rings' are no fantasy...
I'm not sure any of that will have helped you, Rebekah. I just want to be able to work through things with you. Helping to think through thought processes and see the illogic and have people constantly remind me of the greater good has helped me a lot, so I hope you'll stick around and talk with us. Maybe many of your problems don't seem weight-related, but I am willing to bet that some of the things at home that make you feel frustrated and helpless are also part of the equation that affects your over-eating in some way. Please don't give up and please know we care about you. -
Message 33
Posted by Fire-Pig - proud to wave the protest banner (U12231213) on Sunday, 26th June 2011
Some long posts to think about since I was last here. Lost I also relate to so much of what you say,
RIght now, I'm not in a good place. I can see weight creeping back on and desperately want to be more aggressive in how I handle that, but the lure of food is very tempting right now. I know that a zero tolerance approach works wonders, but having plateaued for so long, I am in that place of near surrender, shrugging my shoulders and saying 'what will be will be' when I know full well renewed effort and discipline will /always/ bear fruit! I just want to cry 'it's not fair; it's so difficult' which is such a wimpy attitude that I then despise myself for having that as my only defence. I'm back at the schizophrenic conversations with myself that some of you will know from previous posts. I'm living proof that the Gollum/ Smeagol scenarios in 'The Lord of the Rings' are no fantasy...
I'm not sure any of that will have helped you, Rebekah. I just want to be able to work through things with you. Helping to think through thought processes and see the illogic and have people constantly remind me of the greater good has helped me a lot, so I hope you'll stick around and talk with us. Maybe many of your problems don't seem weight-related, but I am willing to bet that some of the things at home that make you feel frustrated and helpless are also part of the equation that affects your over-eating in some way. Please don't give up and please know we care about you.Ìý
I thought I had conquered the chocolate obsession and was really good at eating just one square, but secret eating has crept back. Work stress is getting a lot better - and I am so pleased for you Lost that you will not be teaching PHSE next year. I was a fish out of water teaching English - just because that is my nationality it doesn't mean that I can teach it - I was in Brunei at the time.
Rebekah you have not got much longer with that class from Hades, I hope your reward will be a much less stressful class next year.
I think I need some of Laura's starched resolve - I KNOW I can achieve a healthier lifestyle, I now have little excuse not to concentrate on my good health - last night I enjoyed starting an embroidery as I listened to Radio 4 play. I achieved something and enjoyed it - If you embroider you CANNOT eat chocolate at the same time!
Now my breakfast grapefruit awaits me - on a Sunday Morning I take my osteoporosis medication and I have been advised to wait a full hour, standing or sitting upright, before eating so I am ready to enjoy a healthy brekker!
F-P -
Message 34
Posted by boo decker (U10848648) on Sunday, 26th June 2011
Thanks people, I'm just soooo very tired of being a failure.
Right, last night I made a list of pros and cons of losing weight and it is quite illuminating so I shall post it here....
Pros:
Feeling better, not feeling sluggish, achey and tired all the time
Looking better, possibly even younger
Being fitter, able to walk faster, not get breathless
Playing more actively with the kids would be good for them too.... Boo is getting a bit podgy
Want my kids to have a good healthy role model so they don't go through this when they get older
Better clothes
Better s*x life (shhhh)
Cons:
If I lose weight I might have to face the fact that actually I am not a beautiful person hidden in this body!
If I lose weight I will have to face the fact that I have wasted a huge chunk of my life being overweight.
If I lose weight I will have to face up to the fact that I am never having another child (yes, this is weird but I had to lose serious amounts to conceive the other two, we are not having another one but I would like one and I'm kind of kidding myself.....)
If I diet I might get as obsessive as the people I work with who won't even sniff a biscuit in case they gain weight......
So, there's my list, now I just need to negate the cons and focus on the pros....
Haha! -
Message 35
Posted by boo decker (U10848648) on Sunday, 26th June 2011
I've just thought of a couple more pros:
I will be able to get decent rallying fireproofs
I will be able to fit into the seats in the rally cars without my bum going numb and crippling me! -
Message 36
Posted by GuzziNut (U6364582) on Sunday, 26th June 2011
I like the last two pros, boo, like them a lot
nothing like expensive gear needing to fit, to focus the mind
the other pros are good too, I could add being able to out walk, out bop folk much younger than me, that never fails to raise a grin -
Message 37
Posted by boo decker (U10848648) on Sunday, 26th June 2011
So, I have a plan.
Tis a simple plan.
1. I shall drink more water.... I think a lot of the time I fall into the mistaking thirst for hunger trap so I shall drink water when I feel hungry outside of meal times and the re assess.
2. I shall drop my diet coke consumption in favour of water.
3. I shall cut out the sugar that has been creeping back into my tea
4. I shall write out my training plan for walking as I want to keep my fitness ticking over for next year
5. I shall come in here and write a food diary each evening.
6. I shall do this for a month until it has become a habit and then I shall re assess and see what to do to move it on.
I shall also cut and paste this into a word document, print ti out and put it in my journal.
There, I'm as good as sorted! < snork > I wish! -
Message 38
Posted by pigsrlovely (U14715579) on Sunday, 26th June 2011
I like your simple plan Boo.
i find it really helpful to keep a food diary. However, I have to fill it as I eat. If not I conveniently forget. It is particularly helpful to keep me in check when preparing meals as I tend not to notice or account for the amount I eat at that time. I can eat as much getting my tea ready as when I sit down to eat it. Oh dear.
i like your substitution of water instead of fizzy drinks. I find it really hard to drink water though. Too cold on my teeth whcih are really sensitive. I am trying red bush tea and really like water with a squeeze of lemon.
Sometimes its good to make a clean sweep and make lots of changes at once, other times it may be easier to take little steps and build up. I think it depends on where your mind is at the time. Sometimes its easier than others. -
Message 39
Posted by Fire-Pig - proud to wave the protest banner (U12231213) on Sunday, 26th June 2011
Good for you Rebekah. I hope that you will soon feel better about yourself and your steps will prove really helpful.
Pigsrlovely, have you tried Green tea? I have been enjoying Green Tea with lemon, it tastes good to me!
F-P -
Message 40
Posted by pigsrlovely (U14715579) on Monday, 27th June 2011
F-P - will get some green tea today and try it. Will let you know -- ooh quite exciting - love trying new things.
It is going to be quite a revealing week I think. It is my last reflexology lesson on Thurs - this course has just flown it has been so interesting. We havent just concentrated on hands and feet we have discovered ears!! fascinating. We are going to have a look at ear shapes and how they are set against our face which apparantly reveals what sort of personality you are. Will listen with my eyes closed - if you know what I mean - it could be embarassing lol
When massaging son's feet noticed he had a rash on side of ankle. A little bit of eczma or dry skin irritating him I think - but he had obviously been scratching. I have been applying a bit of lavender oil to the area and it is clearing up lovely. All the redness has gone and I hope as the soreness goes he will stop scratching. So am pleased that i have practically applied something learned and it has worked.
It must be nice not being a hungry person. If I could just set my body clock to sensible then I reckon I could be thin.
Hubby grows a bit of veg in our garden. All the lettuce has decided to come up at once. Well actually he has prob planted too much and I am developing such long ears having consumed too much today. -
Message 41
Posted by Fire-Pig - proud to wave the protest banner (U12231213) on Monday, 27th June 2011
I should have said yesterday that I was wearing a new T shirt, a size smaller and several people commented how nice I looked!
The sun is shining once again a day for salads pigsrlovely!
F-P -
Message 42
Posted by orange pekoe (U9563764) on Monday, 27th June 2011
Hurray for lovely new t-shirt and compliments, F-P!
Boo, pigs, honestly, most of what you both write about your relationship with food could have come straight from my keyboard.
Boo, I am *so* with you on not wanting to turn into some freaky obsessed calorie counter, scared of breathing in biscuit fumes. I don't think that's a healthy mindset. But then I have to confess that my current mindset is far from healthy either. You too sound perilously close to being painfully self-destructive.
All I can do is relate my own (previous) success, which was to do it what I call the lazy way - stop my body craving the bad stuff, so that the will power wasn't needed.
I don't know if, while on any of your past diet schemes, you have reached a similar point, but I managed to encourage my body not to beg me for milk chocolate, cakes and stuff. I did it kind of by accident (apologies for those who've heard this before, but it bears repeating for me as well, to try and kick me into action again!) - a friend challenged me to a chocolate free week, which to my astonishment I achieved, and actually carried on for three weeks. I then only had the very very dark stuff, 80 - 85%.
Simply starting like this really focussed me, and I started wanting to eat better overall, plus reducing carbs like bread and potatoes with meals, plus I took up walking at speed whenever I could find the time.
I can remember glorying in the feeling on this very thread, that having heard people say you can re-train your body, it had actually Happened To Me! I truly never thought it would. Also, it was genuine, this continued for at least 18 months, and I lost weight without really thinking about it. (Though I do recall a rather long plateau period, but just carried on the same way and the weight starting coming down again).
However...turns out, forming good habits is possible, forming bad habits is even easier - and as pigs has been saying, Old Habits Die Hard. Years and years of using food for comfort and reward came back to bite me, and the past few months have gradually become more and more like the Old Days.
There *is* a positive. Losing weight this way *has* meant that more of it has stayed off - I am starting to do my impression of a yoyo, but haven't gone all that far back up. I have gone over a stone zone I had hopes of never seeing again when I first went past it on the downhill slope, but am nowhere near where I was when I first began my choc free week (that was April 2009).
So what I'm in a very long-winded way trying to say is, having this place to come to, to discuss, offload, confess, share successes, really REALLY helps.
KOKO all, especially those of us who are struggling at the moment. -
Message 43
Posted by Auntie Prue (U14585893) on Monday, 27th June 2011
M Dukan of the "diet" - interesting article in Daily Telegraph today. He sounds an OK chap - prefers guitar shaped women to flute shaped ones. He uses his own diet - but only post Christmas and holidays.
He also says that you don't have to please the whole world with your body shape - just yourself and the man in your life (or woman if gender and/or gender preference makes it more appropriate).
He also thinks that the reason why the French are a bit more slender than the English is because of their habit of eating in company. Eating alone is more likely to fetch up with one over-eating.
I had never thought of that - and it seems a good thing to aim for - although obviously there are many reasons why it wouldn't *always* be possible to eat in company - but a good thing to aim for where possible.
Drinking alone is generally considered something to avoid - and certainly actual "secret" eating is always a sign of things getting out of control.
Nothing to report here. Still managing to oscillate gently around weight I ended up with. Managing to eat out; eat cheese, chocolate etc and drink within sensible limits and maintain weight fairly well.
Not exercising today as too hot. -
Message 44
Posted by boo decker (U10848648) on Monday, 27th June 2011
Well, my food diary for today is as follows:
Breakfast: cup of tea, porridge, both made with s sk milk
Arrival at school: nature valley cereal bar mixed berries
Break time: nature valley cereal bar ginger
Lunch: salt beef sarnie made with white bread and home made potato salad
Fresh pineapple (slurp!)
3 chocolate chip cookies
Ö÷²¥´óÐã made potato salad with bacon bits, palma ham, chorzo slices, beetroot sald, coleslaw, cucumber
I have drunk lots of water, no tea, -
Message 45
Posted by pigsrlovely (U14715579) on Monday, 27th June 2011
Boo - your food intake today seems ok to me. Well done. To be honest I think if I ate only one round of bread a day I would put on weight. Have come to the conclusion I have to avoid bread.
Like you I have porridge. I make it with water though and find it gets me through the morning admirably. To really go wild and throw caution to the wind I add a bit of salt. I only do this occasionally though just to keep on the naughty side.
F-P bought some green tea today. Must say the colour is strange but I like it. Well there is nothing not to like - it has a nice taste and I am really pleased to have a different drink.
My elastic on my elastic trousers is stretched to the limit. Not sure why particularly. Perhaps too much lettuce. As I posted before hubby providing me with ample supplies of home grown leaves - so what ever we have for tea we are having lettuce with it!! -
Message 46
Posted by Fire-Pig - proud to wave the protest banner (U12231213) on Monday, 27th June 2011
Well done Boo, I have been thinking of you during the day - and it helped me not to buy an ice cream this afternoon!
I'm glad you liked the green tea, pigsrlovely, I prefer it to the various fruit teas available. I also like redbush tea.
I have tried to be good today! I didn't walk very far as it was just too hot!
F-P -
Message 47
Posted by LoopyLobes (U14384399) on Monday, 27th June 2011
Popping in to catch up with everyone, not much to tell from my end except I'm pootling along quite happily low-carbing. It suits me and I'm quite happy eating this way.
Boo, drinking lots of water is a great idea for all sorts of reasons. All the best with the rest of your plan.
Pigsrlovely, I also have very sensitive teeth and I can't drink my water cold so I just add a drop of hot out of the kettle to bring it to more of a "room temperature". Also, I think I must have seen that TV report that you spoke of. Were you the lady on the bike who (IIRC) was able to reduce her asthma medication? If so, I wonder if you know my friend MB, who also appeared in that report. -
Message 48
Posted by Sister Primrose of the Red Tinsel Flag (U5405579) on Tuesday, 28th June 2011
Just a wee wander through to say hello. I've skim read the posts so am bound to have missed something but really just wanted to fly the flag for a bit more protein in the diet and a fair bit less in the way of carbs as a sustainable way of losing weight. I have had to drop the amount of carbs I eat because of diabetes. Having read a fair bit about pre diabetes since my diagnosis I recognise a lot of what has happened to me over the past few years as being a symptom of my decline to diabetes rather than a lack of will power. Smaller portions sizes, more exercise etc just didn't do the trick. I felt astonishingly hungry some days no matter what I ate.
Since January I have reduced the amount of carbs in my daily diet down to between 75 and 100g. In practice this has meant almost alwayssaying no to potatoes, bread and rice. I eat about 20 g max of carbs at a meal. I tend to have a good proteiny breakfast (yesterday was a hard boiled egg chopped and mixed in with a portion of Laughing Cow and spread on 2 ryvita) This keeps me going very well - I ate at about 8.30, went to work, walked home from work at about 1.30 and was just starting to feel hungry whe I got in. Lunch was a lot of chopped little gem lettuce, a piece of cucumber about 2" long deseeded and cut into slices and quarters, a good handful of baby toms, a good handful of Quorn roast chicken pieces and a generous dollop of tzatziki as a dressing. The evening meal was quorn sausages, fresh garden peas, a sauce made of tinned toms, mushrooms and onion and a glass of red wine. I snacked a couple of times throughout the day, oatcakes (but no more than two a a time) with Port Salut, apple etc.
I was not hungry all day. I have just been for the three monthly diabetes blood test which shows my average blood sugar to be within the normal range for a non diabetic person. I have lost well over a stone since January and now have a BMI within the normal range. I have never been hungry, though I have been really fed up at not being able to chose to eat sweet stuff because of the diabetes :0(
This is not by way of gloating. This is to prompt thought about whether it is possible that some of you who have weight problems despite seemingly healthy choices (and then spiral into despair and self blame and soddit eating) might actually be pre diabetic and not actually morally culpable for your weight problems. In pre diabetes the body is starting to lose pancreatic function. Insulin does not move sugar from the blood into the muscles so folk feel tired all the time. The sugar does move from the blood into fat so folk gain weight even though they have no energy and are not neccessarily eating rubbish.
The easiest way to test for this would be to get a fasting blood sugar. A lot of chemists offer a fasting blood sugar test. As the name suggests the blood sugar is taken in the morning before you've had any food or calorific drink (they usually specify at least 8 hours after food the previous night) A blood sugar of between 6.1 and 6.9 satisfies the WHO definition of pre diabetes and would really really make it worth your while doing some extra research about pre diabetes with a view to making changes so it didn't turn into type two diabetes.
Got to dash, late for work, but if someone had told me five years ago that I might well be pre diabetic I would have spent a lot less time attributing my weight gain to lack of moral fibre, been able to make dietary changes that helped a lot and generally been a much happier bunny.
PP -
Message 49
Posted by Auntie Prue (U14585893) on Tuesday, 28th June 2011
PP - I can't begin to say how pleased I am about your blood test result.
I agree totally with you about restricting carbs - I failed so many times until I followed a low glycemic weight diet, Like you, pre-diabetes had predisposed me to gain weight, and a serious reassessment of what I ate was needed.
I'm afraid if I ate what the previous poster put for her day's food, I would be gaining straight back again. White bread sandwich and potato salad - a big no no for me - and no doubt for you too, PP.
I agree about protein at breakfast. It doesn't have to be cooked, or include an egg. A continental style one with a *small* slice of low fat cheese, eg Jarlsberg or goats cheese, and a *small* slice of meat.
If I have muesli - unsweetened of course, I usually have it with low fat greek yoghurt to up the protein. No need then for all those snacky cereal bars before lunch because you don't get hungry in an hour or two.
Nimble wholemeal toast is a good choice with a boiled egg.
Tomato juice has fewer carbs than fruit juice.
etc etc -
Message 50
Posted by pigsrlovely (U14715579) on Tuesday, 28th June 2011
LoopyLobes - love the name - yep I was shown riding my bike but the story they wanted to relay was three years ago my hubby was pushing me round in a wheelchair. I simply couldnt walk my back pain was so intense - my disc kept popping out and mating with my spinal column!!! well sort of - I had 2 discectomy ops and promised if I could just get rid of the pain I would lose weight. Well - the surgeon got rid of the pain so I kept my side of the bargain to myself and set about losing weight. However, a lifetime of doing it wrong meant I needed support and guidance which was what I was trying to explain in the Ö÷²¥´óÐã prog. I do know a MB - Marion? If its the same lady she is really lovely.
PrImrose Path - I think everything you have said really makes sense and I shall endeavour to cut down my carbs and do all you suggest in your post - doing a fasting blood test etc. Like you say it could be very revealing.
Hope everyone is having a good healthy day
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