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Message 1.Ìý
Posted by Lilo (U12007400) on Sunday, 2nd October 2011
Welcome to the hair-strewn, biscuit crumby place where you can ask for advice, talk over your worries, offer advice, or just sit and burble about how wonderful your dog is and how she's/he's mummy's little treasu....ahem.
Murphy, my 4 year old toy apricot poodle is here with his knowing poodle eyes and a hankering for the chicken he can smell cooking downstairs. He's been an absolute joy, and despite losing Zeddy, my saluki/lab three years ago, and swearing never again, we took him in when his owner died suddenly, and here he is. Braveheart of the dog world.
Enjoy the month, enjoy the autumn walks and here's hoping all the dogs and their owners have good health throughout October.
Lilo and Murph -
Message 2
Posted by Dapply (U2437462) on Sunday, 2nd October 2011
Thank you Lilo and Murph for opening up the Club.
I am sure Saffie will help clearing up the biscuit crumbs. -
Message 3
Posted by Dapply (U2437462) on Monday, 3rd October 2011
Bump and Woof!
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Message 4
Posted by Constance (U14594138) on Monday, 3rd October 2011
Hi fellow dog lovers - hope you will forgive this cross post, but the more people know about this pup, the more likely she is to be found and restored to her anxious owner.
A blue merle Cardigan corgi puppy bitch stolen from Abbotsley Golf Hotel in St. Neots, Cambridgeshire, PE19 6XN. The puppy was born on 12th April 2011 and is microchipped . We believe that she has probably been stolen and sold on to someone who will think she is just a cute mongrel!
Background – there are fewer than 25 blue merle Cardigan corgi bitches in the UK. All are microchipped. In 2011 only six Cardigan corgi blue merle puppies have been born – in two litters. All are accounted for except this one – Gowerston Silver Smudge. Microchip number 900008800161549.
Many vets will never have seen a blue merle Cardigan corgi. The Cardigan corgi – as you will know – is one of Britain’s most vulnerable breeds, with an average of just 60 new puppies registered with the Kennel Club each year. Blue merles are a real rarity. We are showing a picture of Smudge at 4 months and also of a fully grown blue merle bitch.
We believe that one day the owners will take Smudge to a vet – this year, next year, some time. Please microchip scan any Cardigan corgi; if no microchip it will be her. (We understand chips can be blocked.)
The contact is Abbotsley Golf Hotel – 01480 474000[Personal details removed by Moderator]. If Smudge arrives with you in years to come, please contact the microchip details or if missing, the Cardigan Welsh Corgi Association, via the internet. This is a small, vulnerable breed and all owners throughout the UK and Europe are aware that Smudge is missing.
Thanks for reading - I've only ever lost a dog once, but recovered it later in the day - one of the worst days of my life.
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Message 5
Posted by dondy (U3463640) on Monday, 3rd October 2011
Blimey - modding in the doc club thread again !
Hello everyone from Dondy and Lily.
dondy -
Message 6
Posted by Now Locking for a house (U3261819) on Tuesday, 4th October 2011
I have never been an animal lover but here at my son's house in the USA i have two dogs by my legs and one on my lap and I love it and will miss them very much. I may smuggle them in.
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Message 7
Posted by mistresslucy (U9471573) on Tuesday, 4th October 2011
Morning All, I need some advice please.
Having checked jaspers teeth yesterday I found that they really have deteriorated dramatically. He has just stumps at the front of his mouth and apart from hs canines he seems to have very little left.
I met his litter sister this morning and her teeth seem fine apart from her canine/incisors? I know she does retrieve stones so am not surprised by her cracked teeth.
But back to Jasper.
He is eight years old, has been with us since he was eighteen months old and been fed nuts mainly,no tinned dog food apart from the first month or so because I didn't know any better (hangs head in shame).
But lately he has been having trouble with his dinner,and I had been putting it down to his fussiness.
He likes having something extra for added interest on his dinner,tinned fish,fat, potato etc and I have been indulging him in this.
But now he seems to have real trouble chewing the dog nuts so what to do??
Do I soften them and if so what with?
Do we have to feed tinned food (yuck)?
BTW,he still manages dentastix and biscuits,(brave soldier ;o))
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Message 8
Posted by Shy (U14227333) on Tuesday, 4th October 2011
Lucy, try soaking his dry food in hot water. *Not* boiling, as that will destroy the vitamins.
I usually boil a kettle and leave it to stand for about 10 minutes, then pour just enough over the food to cover it and leave it to soak for 15 - 20 minutes. It helps to water to absorb if you give it a stir half-way through. It's important not to leave soaked food down too long as it can go off quite quickly, so take away any he hasn't eaten after an hour of so.
I'm having to do this for Marlowe at the moment cos he's teething and can't manage anything that takes much chewing. -
Message 9
Posted by Farmer Sue Tickle (U14964746) on Tuesday, 4th October 2011
I also use a little warm water on dry food. In the past I have used instant gravy to moisten dry food (the stuff made by Wagg, not the human variety which is too salty for me - so I'm guessing would be terrible for dogs). i don't bother with the gravy now, as Bramble doesn't need tempting to eat her food any more.
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Message 10
Posted by Constance (U14594138) on Tuesday, 4th October 2011
Good news re blue merle Cardigan corgi pup - she has been found and restored to her worried owner.
Constance -
Message 11
Posted by Bayandgreygelding (U5161003) on Tuesday, 4th October 2011
Having spent a lovely afternoon on a beach in Northumbria, Mr Gelding, both dogs and I were back at the car park. In a fraction of a second the older girl vanished. We searched high and low, called and called, retraced our steps, separated and went different ways looking for her. We found her back on the beach, playing with some children, having a great time but it was a really horrible 5 minutes. I am really glad the merle corgi is back where she belongs.
I need a bit of advice please. My pup is a determined wee madam. Not necessarily a bad thing but it is making life difficult. I must utter 50 'No's' for every other word I speak in a day. Not that it makes any difference. Her worst trait is 'biting' - not aggressively but in play but it still hurts the same. She is very strong. With previous pups if play got a bit rough I would squeak and leave. This pup does not take the hint and comes back for more. She 'bites' if we are not in game and thnks it is acceptable to chew whatever part of me she can get her jaws around. When stroking her quietly she will mouth my hand, if I I withdraw my hand she will nip or bite leg, arm, foot and so on. How do I stop this please? She is coming on in leaps and bounds in every other way. -
Message 12
Posted by Bayandgreygelding (U5161003) on Tuesday, 4th October 2011
Sorry forgot to post these pictures of her;
Not great at links so hope it works! -
Message 13
Posted by fellman (U14848647) on Tuesday, 4th October 2011
Morning All, I need some advice please.
Having checked jaspers teeth yesterday I found that they really have deteriorated dramatically. He has just stumps at the front of his mouth and apart from hs canines he seems to have very little left.
I met his litter sister this morning and her teeth seem fine apart from her canine/incisors? I know she does retrieve stones so am not surprised by her cracked teeth.
But back to Jasper.
He is eight years old, has been with us since he was eighteen months old and been fed nuts mainly,no tinned dog food apart from the first month or so because I didn't know any better (hangs head in shame).
But lately he has been having trouble with his dinner,and I had been putting it down to his fussiness.
He likes having something extra for added interest on his dinner,tinned fish,fat, potato etc and I have been indulging him in this.
But now he seems to have real trouble chewing the dog nuts so what to do??
Do I soften them and if so what with?
Do we have to feed tinned food (yuck)?
BTW,he still manages dentastix and biscuits,(brave soldier ;o))
³¢³Ü³¦²âÌý Hi mistress (always wanted to say that!)
Dogs actually chew with the molars - the double teethat the back of the gums - rather than in cincissors at the front -I know you said his incissors aren't brlliant - but have you checked the molars for damage or decay?
I would suspect there may be some of either or both if he is needing to be tempted.
I think whatever discomfort - they will always manage to chew treats. But I think I would try softenning his food to see if he will eat more readily.
Hope he goes on ok. -
Message 14
Posted by mistresslucy (U9471573) on Tuesday, 4th October 2011
Hi fellman,
You can call me Lucy ;o*)
Just had a look at the back teeth and theres still a bit of tooth left.
Bramble (our other Springer) seems to have pretty good teeth but then again shes only three and a bitish!
Jaspers teeth at the front,top and bottom are completely worn down.
Long sharp teeth at the sides look O.K.
Smallish teeth next to long sharp teeth almost gone.
I've tried wiggling them and theyre not loose.
Tried softening dinner today and he still wouldnt eat until we came back from walk which meant he hadnt had anything since 9am (toast)
Will try sardines tomorrow on the dried food.
When he eats he tries to chew and then spits it out.
Am reminded of when my Mum used to make me eat parsnips.
Maybe its just another fussy spell,heres hoping.
Thanks for the advice all.
Lucy -
Message 15
Posted by Shy (U14227333) on Tuesday, 4th October 2011
fellman, I took the plunge today and told the vet (well the receptionist) that I want Dido titre tested rather than just going ahead with her first boosters. She's booked in for Thursday.
Don't know how long it will take the results to come back but if the vet tells me she still needs a booster I'll ask for the actual results and run them past you first, if I may.
I hope I'm wrong not to have complete trust, but..... -
Message 16
Posted by Shy (U14227333) on Tuesday, 4th October 2011
Sorry, Lucy, I'd been watching out for fellman and have only just realised I missed your post. Fingers crossed jasper starts eating again, but I think if it were me I'd get the vet to look over him soon if not. Just in case.
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Message 17
Posted by Bubbly (U14667393) on Tuesday, 4th October 2011
Hi Bayandgreygelding,
We had the same problem with our rescue Jack Russell cross mouthing and nipping us, we were advised to make a huge fuss, shouting ouch and jumping up whenever he tried to mouth us, he was so shocked the first time we did it he scuttled back to his bed looking very guilty and hasn't really done it since.
Bubbly -
Message 18
Posted by What larks (U14260755) on Wednesday, 5th October 2011
I've just read Campbell's post on the September thread about watching working dogs...they do enjoy it, don't they? It was the main reason why we began doing flyball and agility with the border collie, but I strongly suspect he would rather be rounding up sheep.
It is great that sheepdog trials are being shown on TV again...though I missed most of them.
Great weather for dog walks, as people have said, though so far as I'm concerned all weather is good if it is dry underfoot . I'm dreading a rainy winter...wet muddy dogs are the pits so far as I'm concerned, and mine is a hairy chap which makes it worse. -
Message 19
Posted by mistresslucy (U9471573) on Wednesday, 5th October 2011
Morning Shy Spoffler,
We've had this fussiness before, accompanied by not wanting to go for walks. So I took his lordship to the vet.
Cue mutterings about liver disease in Springers,blood tests and scans.
I was in tears when I went to collect him,planning funeral etc....only to be told he is the healthiest dog in towm and was just swinging the lead.
O/H had been spoiling him with tit-bits and taking him out in the jeep to the woods,therefore a walk around the country lanes just wasn't his thing anymore!
He is very prone to "putting it on"
Will even limp if I ask him is he O.K.
So I will give it a day or so before vets.
Nad as for great dog walking weather lark,OMG we've had wall to wall fog,rain and general greyness all day,everyday for the last ten days. Lucy -
Message 20
Posted by Campbell in Farewell Clogs (U14226916) on Wednesday, 5th October 2011
thanks for sending me over here lark - it always takes me a wee while to realise yet another new month has started. I hope the dogtraining I witnessed yesterday will be a regular feature of my back field viewing.
On the teeth problems. There is an alternative to tinned food. One of my lodgerdogs gets special dogmeat 'sausages'. Biological meat bought frozen in sausage shaped packs which can be defrosted and mixed with warm water. He gets 2 a day, plus dog kibble. Mushed up with a fair bit of water as he doesn't tend to drink much so I like to make sure that he gets enough moisture in him with his main meals. -
Message 21
Posted by StargazerwithOscar (U14668197) on Wednesday, 5th October 2011
Hi, does anyone remember my wary adoption of a mad pointer called Dexter about the end of July? Well, here we all still are, he gets bigger and stronger and is a soft and beautiful boy. Our normal routine, until yesterday, was
Wake up, OH goes down to make drinks, lets Dexy out for wee
Dexy comes back in and gallops at full speed upstairs ("Mum! You're still here! You left me all night! I was worried! I love you!" All this and more conveyed by his frantic delight as he bursts into the bedroom).
We play throw a sqeuaky toy down stairs (which I can just about manage from bed with bedroom door open) and fetch it back while I drink my tea.
His long walk follows my getting dressed - an hour or so, a lot of the time spent galloping madly through hilly woodland near us (well, by gentle strolling on my part!).
In the afternoon, more chasing toys around the garden for twenty minutes or so.
Snoozing on a very comfortable sofa he's been allowed to appropriate to himself (coughs embarrassedly and looks other way) all evening.
Final wee walk last thing then bed - very comfy one in otherwise v little-used dining room.
Yesterday, however, he had his neutering operation. Apart from having to wear a silly collar he really loathes for ten days, he also has to be confined to a few on-lead walks a day, no chasing up and down stairs and no frantic games, until the stitches come out. To say he is a puzzled and unhappy dog at the moment would adequately describe it. And we feel awful too, doing it to him. It's all for the best, of course, but roll on Friday the 14th -
Message 22
Posted by Dapply (U2437462) on Wednesday, 5th October 2011
Oscar when he had his "pocket picked" was sulky for a day or so, but then he soon forgot about it and decided that he still loved us after all.
Dexy will recover......and be just as loveable as ever. A bit puzzled about the collar tho'. Oscar didn't have one.
However, just give him lots of cuddles and the time will pass. I promise. -
Message 23
Posted by fellman (U14848647) on Wednesday, 5th October 2011
Sorry, Lucy, I'd been watching out for fellman and have only just realised I missed your post. Fingers crossed jasper starts eating again, but I think if it were me I'd get the vet to look over him soon if not. Just in case. Ìý Hi Shy five balls in the air time hear just now - and my moments of relaxation are severely limited!!
By all means run them past me but do not be surprised if the Leptospirosis results come in negative and they try to get you to have the full booster. You are not alone in having little faith in the motives of vets and boosters and I don't know anyone personally in the world of dog showing who now boosts - and as yet there have been no horror stories or mass deaths of unboosted dogs -
Message 24
Posted by mistresslucy (U9471573) on Wednesday, 5th October 2011
Update,
Dinner with sardines.
All eaten.
Fusspot.
Lucy -
Message 25
Posted by Shy (U14227333) on Wednesday, 5th October 2011
Thanks, fellman, it's so good to be able refer to someone who knows what they're talking about.
I did know that the lepto was the one that was likely to show as not resistant. What I don't know is how much it matters. As I understand it the vaccine doesn't usually give a full year's cover against lepto in any case, which makes it seem a bit pointless in some ways, otoh I see rats on our walks on a regular basis, so I do worry a bit.
I wonder if it's possible to give lepto vaccination on it's own, and if that too would be a risk to health in itself.
Sigh. It's all so complicated.
Whatever, I won't let them boost her without more info if all the others are OK.
Sorry, you said you were busy and here I am going on! Hope the business is due to good things not bad things, and thanks again. -
Message 26
Posted by Thursday Next (U2257911) on Thursday, 6th October 2011
Yes, it is possible to get vaccine for lepto on its own but a lot of vets don't get it and may tell you it is impossible to get it. Not sure how it is packaged, a vet might well be reluctant to buy a pack of 100 (for example) to get one dose.
Like Fellman I don't boost my dogs. They have their initial vaccines and that is it. At one time I used to give one booster at a year old but stopped that when one of my dogs had ear and eye trouble within a few days of having her booster. I said to my vet that I was sure it was the booster that had caused a perfectly healthy dog to develop both eye and ear problems, he agreed. -
Message 27
Posted by Shy (U14227333) on Thursday, 6th October 2011
Thanks, TN.
I'm beginning to wonder why I'm even getting the titres done, since I'm very reluctant to have the boosters done in any case esp since I read this:
In fact I've read several articles saying much the same thing, this is just the one I managed to find again quickly. -
Message 28
Posted by Thursday Next (U2257911) on Thursday, 6th October 2011
I don't have titre testing done as it is not always reliable. It works by checking the number of antibodies to a disease in the blood, if an animal has not been in contact with the disease recently the number of antibodies will be low or non existent, this does not mean that they won't appear if the animal does come into contact with the disease.
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Message 29
Posted by Shy (U14227333) on Thursday, 6th October 2011
I understand that, TN.
My concern is that Dido might have been given her initial vaccinations too early, when she still had too many of her mother's antibodies, for them to have taken effect. Unfortunately her breeder had the first shot done when she was only just 8 weeks, before she came to me.
I shan't worry too much if the antibodies are low but wanted her tested in case they are zero, though I now understand that not even a zero titre /necessarily/ means no immunity.
Sigh.
It's all so complicated. -
Message 30
Posted by PinaGrigio (U11141735) on Thursday, 6th October 2011
another one wondering where everyone had gone and needing to be pushed into a new month!
Anyway, am delighted to report an All-Clear at the vets, so the Hound is now off-lead again, though no ball throwing for another week or so, just to be on the safe side.
SwO: your description of Dexy's usual morning routine is exactly the one we follow, just with the roles reversed. So it's me first down to make the tea and let the Hound outside, and MrG who gets woken by the flying leap on to the bed and frantic burrowing of a very wet nose. It's so nice that it's now happening again instead of a woebegone face looking pathetically over the basket edge.... -
Message 31
Posted by fellman (U14848647) on Thursday, 6th October 2011
Yes, it is possible to get vaccine for lepto on its own but a lot of vets don't get it and may tell you it is impossible to get it. Not sure how it is packaged, a vet might well be reluctant to buy a pack of 100 (for example) to get one dose.
Like Fellman I don't boost my dogs. They have their initial vaccines and that is it. At one time I used to give one booster at a year old but stopped that when one of my dogs had ear and eye trouble within a few days of having her booster. I said to my vet that I was sure it was the booster that had caused a perfectly healthy dog to develop both eye and ear problems, he agreed. Ìý Hi TN
I don't have my dogs titred any longer either I did of course for around 9 years after I made the decision not to boost but when the results came back year after year with no significant differences I decided the ever increasing costs of the tests which are generally the same as the booster itself could be better used for the benefit of my dogs.
Am actually spitting feathers just now I took Cel (pronounced with kickng k) to one of our biggest Championship shows last Thursday and by Saturday he had the squits which have systematically gone through the other 7 here including my two 11 year old pensioners. Why oh why if a dog has a stomach upset do peple insist on takng them to public places where other dogs can become infected?
Apart from being fed up with me squirting stuff down their throats to 'bung them up' they are in the rudest of rude bouncing health. Ok rant over - normal service is being resumed! -
Message 32
Posted by fellman (U14848647) on Thursday, 6th October 2011
I understand that, TN.
My concern is that Dido might have been given her initial vaccinations too early, when she still had too many of her mother's antibodies, for them to have taken effect. Unfortunately her breeder had the first shot done when she was only just 8 weeks, before she came to me.
I shan't worry too much if the antibodies are low but wanted her tested in case they are zero, though I now understand that not even a zero titre /necessarily/ means no immunity.
Sigh.
It's all so complicated. Ìý There is a theory Shy that too early a full regime of innoculations is non effective and most vets will refuse to do this yntil the pips are at least 10 weeks old. I have never understand the mad rush to get pups out and walking the streets on a lead. My pups go to the village with me in the car and watch the world from the car park outside the few shops - a number of shoppers always come and speak to the pups and stroke them - and this I feel is sufficient early socialising By the time they are 4 months they have gravitated to sitting on the bench withme on leads with usually an increase in the human traffic and a closer proximity to road traffic. But they never go on a formal walk until they are turned 6 months and then only short distances.
I have followed this regime for more than 40 years now and have been lucky that I have never had a shy dog who ws also raffic shy - or perhaps it is because they are allowed to build u their confidence gradually - istead of being dragged around on leads. -
Message 33
Posted by StargazerwithOscar (U14668197) on Thursday, 6th October 2011
SwO: your description of Dexy's usual morning routine is exactly the one we follow, just with the roles reversed. So it's me first down to make the tea and let the Hound outside, and MrG who gets woken by the flying leap on to the bed and frantic burrowing of a very wet nose. It's so nice that it's now happening again instead of a woebegone face looking pathetically over the basket edge....Ìý
He's getting used to the new regime, although not exactly liking it. I've discovered that he's very fond of having the fire lit. Just like my old spaniel - strong streak of laziness. He can also do a textbook reproachful/heartbroken look. He's desperate for some gallopy runs and rough games and is laying it on with a trowel in consequence. Little darling.... -
Message 34
Posted by Thursday Next (U2257911) on Thursday, 6th October 2011
I wasn't at that show as we don't have tickets there and in any case was show manager at a breed show on Sunday which was our day. I've been lucky that my dogs have never picked up anything like that at Champ shows although they did once pick up kennel cough at a breed show. It can be difficult though, I once took two of my dogs to a dog walk from my obedience club and the following morning they were both coughing so I had obviously taken two infectious dogs the previous day without any knowledge that they were infectious.
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Message 35
Posted by fellman (U14848647) on Thursday, 6th October 2011
I wasn't at that show as we don't have tickets there and in any case was show manager at a breed show on Sunday which was our day. I've been lucky that my dogs have never picked up anything like that at Champ shows although they did once pick up kennel cough at a breed show. It can be difficult though, I once took two of my dogs to a dog walk from my obedience club and the following morning they were both coughing so I had obviously taken two infectious dogs the previous day without any knowledge that they were infectious. Ìý I must be desperately unlucky because this is not the first show I have returned from with an unwanted visitor!
When Darlington Show was held at South Park there was a real risk of infection because as a public park - not only were dogs exercised there - but all the local dogs ran there freely unsuervised. I was glad when they moved!
When Crufts was held in Olympia London and later at Earls Court we had the same problem in the streets around the venues.
I have been fortunate in not encountering Kennel Cough but can see more readily a non early diagnosis which isn't the case usually with the squits which do announce their presence a little more obviously.
I just looked at my 1st prize card for Limit and thought 'Was it worth it?' But Cel enjoyed his day with me alone as 'special dog' -
Message 36
Posted by Thursday Next (U2257911) on Thursday, 6th October 2011
Yes, you would think they would know their dog had some kind of bug. Well done on your first, that's a stud book number in your breed isn't it or did he already have it? Hope they are all soon over it.
I'm being blamed for several people getting colds and bad throats/chests following our club show about three weeks ago as I was just getting over a bad cold but had to be there as I had all the entries, licence, insurance, rosettes, prize cards and mats etc. At least all the dogs appear to be ok though. -
Message 37
Posted by Shy (U14227333) on Thursday, 6th October 2011
OK, another question for you two knowledgeable people. (Sorry)
We have visited the vet and had the blood taken. My vet is in fact quite happy not to re-vaccinate if the tests are OK (hurrah!), with one exception - the leptospirosis. She actually said she would strongly recommended that I get just that one done even if I don't do the rest - and she is willing and able to do it on its own.
What does the panel think? Is repeated vaccination for lepto (a bacteria) as risky as repeated vaccination for viruses?
I'm quite willing to hold out, if lepto boosters do carry a risk, but on the other hand why risk going without if they don't? -
Message 38
Posted by Thursday Next (U2257911) on Thursday, 6th October 2011
All vaccinations carry a very small risk but then so do the illnesses. Lepto is certainly a nasty illness and if you commonly exercise your dog in areas where there are plenty of rats it might well be worth considering if leptospirosis is fairly common in that area. It is a vaccination that is only recommended in areas where there is a high incidence of the disease and apparently rarely recommended in the US although usually recommended in this country. One thing I have read is that puppies and small dogs are most likely to have adverse reactions to.
It does sound like you have a good vet there who is not trying to force you into other vaccinations so it might be worth taking her advice on this. -
Message 39
Posted by Joanna Townmouse (U14278698) on Friday, 7th October 2011
Staregazer
When my two were neutered they whimpered for one evening - looked at me as if I were Cruella de Ville - hated their collars and restrictions on walks. Now I am (I exaggerate but you know what I mean ) Mummy Earth provider of all they want and Snuggling up to person.
You did a responsible thing and it will be forgotten. In fact it might be by the time I have posted this . You will be worrying about it more than they will.
JT -
Message 40
Posted by Farmer Sue Tickle (U14964746) on Friday, 7th October 2011
How true JT.
When B was spayed she was only concerned with the silly collar and the fact that she wasn't allowed to run around the garden or go for walks for a week. Once the stiches were out and the collar came off I was totally forgiven. It's a timely reminder as we are about to go through the whole event again next week with the other one. I'm brave now - but this time next week I will be a nervous wreck! -
Message 41
Posted by Dapply (U2437462) on Friday, 7th October 2011
Yes Saffie is about to be spayed too.
I can't help remembering Seren last year when the vet told us she had a pyo and should be spayed......... a week later she had died, and we STILL don't know what killed her. I am convinced it wasn't the pyo and so is Mr D. We have the horrible feeling it was this virus thingy that some dogs pick up.
So when Saffie goes for her op I shall be a wreck.
Stand by everyone for a Dapply needing support when Saffie does go for her op. -
Message 42
Posted by posh_scouse_pinnedwithpride (U2514024) on Friday, 7th October 2011
[toy apricot poodle ]
pink wooly woofter....
signed Patrick.
Stawberry Blonde of this Parish. -
Message 43
Posted by fellman (U14848647) on Saturday, 8th October 2011
All vaccinations carry a very small risk but then so do the illnesses. Lepto is certainly a nasty illness and if you commonly exercise your dog in areas where there are plenty of rats it might well be worth considering if leptospirosis is fairly common in that area. It is a vaccination that is only recommended in areas where there is a high incidence of the disease and apparently rarely recommended in the US although usually recommended in this country. One thing I have read is that puppies and small dogs are most likely to have adverse reactions to.
It does sound like you have a good vet there who is not trying to force you into other vaccinations so it might be worth taking her advice on this.
Ìý Good advice from TN
No scare tactics intended but there is some evidence to show that most dogs do not retain the lepto antibodies from the injection after 6 months - and I know personally of one who had no trace after 6 WEEKS.
Rats urrinate in or near water so mine never get into the Carr Dyke which is the RRoman built Canal which is just across the field from me. Nor do I walk them arounf the edge of lakes.
I never leave a water bowl outside at night either - in fact prevention is better than cure when it comes to infections and I mind a an old fashiooned vet much like James Herriot telling me that if I want to be relatively certain of exposing my dogs to the risk of infection - I should take them to the vet peactice! I try not to whenever possible! -
Message 44
Posted by fellman (U14848647) on Saturday, 8th October 2011
Yes, you would think they would know their dog had some kind of bug. Well done on your first, that's a stud book number in your breed isn't it or did he already have it? Hope they are all soon over it.
I'm being blamed for several people getting colds and bad throats/chests following our club show about three weeks ago as I was just getting over a bad cold but had to be there as I had all the entries, licence, insurance, rosettes, prize cards and mats etc. At least all the dogs appear to be ok though.Ìý Thanks TN No he has won 6 Limit classes this year without troubling the CC and res CC winners!
When I started showing - Champons werre semi retired after completeting their title! Not so now - although I do still practice this believing what I was told asa youngster - it is clever to make a champion but cleverer to make many different champions!
Although I substitute satisfying raher than clever!
I had my flu jab on Wedenesday ( I have to as I am an 'at risk' person so feel a little more confident entering the winter shows! And especially the Scottish Working breeds next month where I judge again for the first time since I judged CRufts in 08! So I agree with you I am at more risk from infection at shows than my dogs! -
Message 45
Posted by Lilo (U12007400) on Saturday, 8th October 2011
My mum says at least my roots are apricot, so ner.
Signed Murph
toy poodley wooftery woolly and wuffly -
Message 46
Posted by Thursday Next (U2257911) on Saturday, 8th October 2011
I hope you enjoy your judging at WPBAS. I enjoyed mine last month at Birmingham and was especially pleased when my BOB was G3 and PG1 and then BPIS.
I am due to get my flu jab sometime soon as I am also in an at risk group. I haven't had it for the last couple of years but think that possibly I should this year, particularly as I have already had two colds, the second starting within three weeks of the first. -
Message 47
Posted by Thursday Next (U2257911) on Saturday, 8th October 2011
I'm sure Saffie will be ok. We will keep fingers and paws crossed here.
-
Message 48
Posted by PinaGrigio (U11141735) on Saturday, 8th October 2011
yes, likewise. I can entirely understand why you'll be nervous but we'll all be here.
RIP the beloved 12 yr old labrador of a friend, who went suddenly downhill last night and died this morning. It was on the cards but not expected that soon. Poor old girl. -
Message 49
Posted by Shy (U14227333) on Saturday, 8th October 2011
Thanks for the replies, TN and fellman. I must admit I'm not entirely convinced that I should agree to the lepto booster - if it's only effective for a maximum of 6 months, and sometimes as little as 6 weeks, then even the majority of vaccinated dogs must be at risk of the disease, and yet we don't hear of many cases. I'll think about it.
Dapply, I'm sure Saffie will be fine but I can understand how you feel. We'll all be here to support you when the time comes. -
Message 50
Posted by Constance (U14594138) on Sunday, 9th October 2011
Are dogs more popular pets than cats? If yes, then perhaps that not true of MLs as I have notice that there are far more postings in the Cat Club. Why is that do you think?
Constance
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