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Posted by RosalindF (U11043377) on Thursday, 31st May 2012
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Other ML threads you might want to visit:
Feral/Stray Cats:
Good Food for Cats no. 1 and this one's closed:
And no. 2:
Pucci's Feline Diabetes:
This thread is now closed and for reference only. It is a wonderful resource for those with diabetic cats:
And another, which we frequently point people to, is Bash鈥檚 introduction protocol, a really good way of introducing a new cat into a household of existing cats 鈥 well worth a read, and it is highly recommended by those who have used it:
A link to the cat club rota for 2012, because we can always do with more volunteers to open a new thread.
And a link to a thread that's open for all animal lovers to post photos of their four-legged friends (or even stick insects if they want):
Cats should look here:
Cats鈥 Ceilidh 鈥 a place for cats to have their own fun, without their slaves cramping their style.
Not forgetting this thread about the plants that are toxic to our
cats, But the most toxic one is all of the Lily family because
if a cat gets the lily pollen then it instinctively washes its fur
and then their organs collapse so a painful death for cats:
Finally here is a link back to the May Cat Club
These are some external sites that have been found useful:
General
FAB (Feline Advisory Bureau) is a charity dedicated to promoting the health and welfare of cats through improved feline knowledge, to help us all care better for our cats. Also on FAB are many useful pages for cat owners, such as this list of poisonous plants and other substances.
Messybeast is a privately run site which has masses of information on anything you might want to know about cats.
. Here is a ink to the National Office of Animal Health compendium, with the data sheets for most drugs.
UK legislation on animals and Government Code of Practice on Cat Welfare:
Nutrition
Dr. Pierson (guru on nutrition and other feline information):-
Disease
Tanya's Feline Chronic Renal Failure Information Centre
Missing Cats 鈥 Lost and Found
Probably the largest and most publicised site.
Fair but you have to check as your info drops off the page.
A good search service but it costs
Good if you are in London.
Good as it鈥檚 a 鈥渕atey鈥 site and people help.
Good at keeping you informed
Yes, it's summer already and i hope that the CC cats with their respecitve servants are enjoying this season as much as
Rosalind also M & M are.
Also thinking of the recently departed cats, missing ones also
poorlies too.
Rosalind
Thanks for opening up Rosalind.
Thanks for opening up Rosalind.
Hope M&M are doing ok.
b
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What a lovely thoughtful opening Rosalind. Yes, there have been some sad times in CC just recently.
Still thinking of Clemmie and Sweep - and hoping that Juno & Pam are both doing well wherever they've chosen to plant their little paws.
Gx
Thanks for opening the June thread Rosalind.
Just bookmarking.
Hope your cats are doing well
Thanks for opening, Rosalind.
Gil, I did a reply to you about the layout of the flat on May's CC, forgot to go on here first. OH has just said " when are you going to fetch the kitten "......
OH has just said " when are you going to fetch the kitten "......聽
I think you need to collect the kitten soon, we all want to see photos as well.
Now look you lot, you're not supposed to be encouraging me, you're supposed to be putting me off!
I've just realised the last tiny kitten we had was Baldrick. : (
I've left OH thinking of names while I go to work.
Gil, I did a reply to you about the layout of the flat on May's CC, forgot to go on here first. OH has just said " when are you going to fetch the kitten "......聽
Mwahahahahahahahaha!
Eighteen tiny clawsies,
Eighteen jelly-bean toes,
Two blue eyes, two shell ears,
And the sweetest button nose!
(Oh, and those little whiffly whiskers - but I couldn't fit them into the pome...)
G'wan, g'wan, g'wan, g'wan. Batteries in the camera charged?
Yep, saw your post in May CC - think I've got the layout now. Hmmm, screen door's not gonna help, is it? Bums.
Ah well, back to the drawing board (I'm not admitting defeat yet y'know...)
Gx
Thanks for opening up, Rosalind
AelM, I take it you've called your friend to tell her you'll pick him up as soon as possible? I mean Hedge really needs that kitten, doesn't he? And so, it seems, does your OH.
Just give up working and spend all day opening and shutting the door for the cats. It's your new vocation in life.
Just give up working and spend all day opening and shutting the door for the cats. It's your new vocation in life.聽
Sorted.
That will also allow plenty of time for playing with - sorry, adequately socialising - new kitten.
My sourdough loaf's got a soggy bottom. I *knew* it was a mistake to try cooking it in the microwave, but I was attempting to be all fuel efficient and everything. Sigh. It rose so beautifully too. I can see I shall have to invest in a breadmaker.
Gx
Not certain that a bread maker would be better than an oven for sourdough. We do not use ours often enough (too many local bakeries) but as far as I can see with bread makers you get what you pay for. We do still use ours, most of our friends have given up.
Ruairi
Yes, breadmakers do tend to be one of those gadgets that end up stuffed in the back of a cupboard, don't they? Trouble is, I find it hard to justify firing up the oven for one single loaf - and I'm not nearly Domestic Godessy enough to organise baking a full-oven's worth at one go, and then bagging and freezing for later.
I just want to be able to turn out a loaf every so often, when I fancy home-baked bread and a bit of kneading therapy.
Anyway, microwave's out. My poor loaf not only has a soggy bottom, it's got a tough bit in the middle too. Might be okay with a decent micro, but this is only a cheapie affair, who's main function is warming and defrosting (which it just about copes with if you stand over it and glare). With hindsight, I was probably expecting rather too much of it.
I seem to remember there was a breadmaker thread over in The Bull a while back - might trot over there and see if I can track it down.
Not that I have any space for a breadmaker, now I come to think of it.
Hmmm...
Gx
Giving up work sounds like a plan. Of course, with me.working silly hours at the mo, OH would get to do most of the kitten playing.
We've been failing in the search for a sensible name, so far OH wants to call him Augustus so I've said I'm going to call him Fink- Nottle.
Oh no Gil, a bread disaster? That's a pain, although I have to admit microwaving bread doesn't sound like the best idea. We've got a bread maker but I don't use it since I lost all the measuring tubs. They are great though, if you have somewhere to store them.
bookmarking, saying hello and that was a lovely OP Rosalind.
And demanding tha AelM goes to collect Kitten and takes lots of pictures to make me go goo-goo
Cat x
Ooh, Gil, sorry about the the soggy bott...I keep meaning to get a sour dough starter going...might do it this weekend.
We have a breadmaker and it is used several times a week. We pretty much don't buy bread from the shops. It takes up some space on the work top though all the time, but I have the bread making stuff strategically placed in the cupboards around it so it is not a faff to put a loaf on.
I do like to make my own dough manually too though. Hugh Fearnley Whittingstall's magic dough mix is fab for pizza bases.
Erm...just realised thisnis the cat thread so should update on the Libster...the lip did eventually go down and she is absloutely fine and back to her normal bumptious self, esp now the weather has cooled. Still no idea what it was, so will be whipping her back to the vet if it happens again.
AelM - v much looking forward to kitten pics. < sits back expectantly >
Love and furfles to all...
b
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Thanks for opening up Rosalind.
And glad to hear Libby is ok again, must have just been one of those things.
Morning everyone and thanks for opening, Rosalind. Another call from the RSPCA yesterday. They can't promise a presence at this Sunday's car boot sale. However, another friend will go, take photos and note the van registration. CP *may* send someone.
love to all,
stp
Ruari [post 2]
Thanks it's fine
blimbles [3]3
Thanks for opening up Rosalind.
Hope M&M are doing ok.
b
虫听
Blimbles, that's fine also M & M are both very well and right
now somewhere in the garden.
Gil Holroyd [4]
Thanks for your compliment, it's kind and I'd given my OP some
thoughts even before typing it out.
I do like your kittens poems, I think that you wrote them both (so far),
that's clever
yellowcat [5]
That's ok and thanks for asking both M & M are fine.
How are your cats?
AeIM [6]
Thanks for opening, Rosalind. 聽
AeIM, that's fine
laReine-Astrid [10]
Thanks for opening up, Rosalind聽
That's ok and when I opened June's CC, I did it faster than
my last few times.
catwomyn [15]
Thanks that's fine and Marmalade also Mischief are both well,
happy as is Rosalind the same. I hope that other CCers feel fine
too.
Archie7762 [17]
Thanks Archie, that's fine. Nice to you see on CC again
supertillypops [18]
Morning everyone and thanks for opening, Rosalind聽
stp, fine,. yes morning everyone to a muggy day again
OH has just said " when are you going to fetch the kitten "......聽
Oh well done that OH! Go on, you know you want to. :卢)
Goodness, where did May go? Bookmarking as usual, thanks to Rosalind for opening up.
AelM, you know you want a kitten, go on, go and fetch it......pics wanted of course!
My lot have turned into summer cats, out most of the time, especially the ginger hooligans. Although I did have one hot night recently when the three boys all curled up against and on either side of me in bed - I'm afraid I had to move eventually before I melted.
Mum's Midge is still going strong, but at 18 I'm not sure how long that will last - fingers crossed. Going back to a discussion at the end of last month's thread, he is black and white with white ears, and he had one ear flap half removed a couple of years ago because of a growth on it, presumably caused by over-exposure to sun. My only white-faced cat is Horace, who has a white nose, but he seems to sleep in the shade and I haven't noticed any excessive redness.
Jo x
Thank you for opening up the CC this month, Rosalind. I hope M & M aren't too put out with the cooler weather at the moment.
stp (18), That sounds about right for the RSPCA: get someone else to do the donkey work for them. Still, if tthat organisation follows the evidence up, that'll be a good result. Good for your friend - it won't be a very happy experience for her to witness the sales of the kits.
Rusty
P.S. I'm so glad that the conversation about soggy bottoms turned out to be about bread.
JoBo [21]
Goodness, where did May go? Bookmarking as usual, thanks to Rosalind for opening up.聽
Jo, thanks, yes good question where has May gone??
Rosalind's answer: May went too fast for me.
Rusters [22]
Thank you for opening up the CC this month, Rosalind. I hope M & M aren't too put out with the cooler weather at the moment.聽
Rusty, thanks, it's fine, M & M aren't that bothered about the
cooler weather and seemed more relaxed.
Earlier this week and this morning, they were "investigating" a
mouse nest (or is it a mice nest?) and he's playing with
a field mouse this morning (after my breakfast).
Luckily it stayed in the garden.
Rosalind
, in reply to message 23.
Posted by Gayer-Anderson Cat (U13637930) on Friday, 1st June 2012
Bookmarking.
Thanks for opening, Rosalind.
Love to all furries and servants.
G-AC x
All, just tagging on as have seen this thread just now:-
Dougal's Servant in hosp - Tusher has posted in the Bull.
Just gonna nip over there and send best wishes...
b
x
yellowcat [5]
That's ok and thanks for asking both M & M are fine.
How are your cats?聽
Unfortunately we are catless now.
Pam went missing some time ago, we think that someone decided to adopt her, as she was such a friendly little cat she would have followed anyone that made a fuss of her.
Juno decided to move out on her own, we last saw her by the seaside.
Sadly Kaplan was hit by a car and killed last month.
Not sure when we will have another cat.
So sorry, it does leave a big hole in your home. All being well that will be filled before long.
Ruairi
I am still at my mothers house, sorting out maintenance work and tree felling.
Been feeling a bit sore for a couple of days after falling off the roof of a shed that I was repairing.
There is a very big friendly Black and White that sometimes comes to say hello when I am in the garden:
Rosalind, thanks for opening.
Yellowcat, I can't believe you will stay cat - less for too long. I have saved and will treasure the wonderful videos you posted of your cats and hope you find another feline who will make a home with you soon. Someone has to be in charge of your office surely?
Love to everyone. I'm off now to try to catch up with the rest of the May thread news in case I missed something important. Did someone mention a kitten?
Love to all, Roots xx
Thank you for telling us about D's S being in hospital, blimbles. I'll nip over to Tusher's TB thread now.
Rusty
Gayer-Anderson Cat [24]
Thanks
yellowcat [26]
yellowcat [5]
That's ok and thanks for asking both M & M are fine.
How are your cats?
Unfortunately we are catless now.聽
Pam went missing some time ago, we think that someone decided to adopt her, as she was such a friendly little cat she would have followed anyone that made a fuss of her.
Juno decided to move out on her own, we last saw her by the seaside.
Sadly Kaplan was hit by a car and killed last month.
Not sure when we will have another cat. 聽
yellowcat, sorry my mistake and I didn't mean any offence
at all. But do take care of yourself and your family too
Roots [29]
That's fine and I agree with you
I have posted a get well message to D's S on the thread in
the Bull, blimbles, thanks for pointing it out
Thanks for the link to Tusher's thread bimbles.
New Simon's cat:
Soz if this has already been posted and I missed it.
Gx
Just came across this cat video:
I love Simon's cat, far too much like our lot though.
Soooo, this kitten then? We're going to see the three remaining ones on Monday. How exactly am I supposed to keep a little scrap in while letting everyone else in and.out? I can see our spare room becoming a creche.....
How long do they have to stop in for until we can give in and let him out? Apparently all the remaining ones have learnt to use.a cat.flap already, they're only about 10 weeks old!
We must be mad. I blame Gil....
We're going to see the three remaining ones on Monday.聽
I think you may as well take all three.
Gil Holroyd [32]
Thank you loads for your YouTube link to the latest
"Simon's Cat" video, I always think his work's so funny.
yellowcat [33]
that's a clever video as well, what a good find
Rosalind
, in reply to message 35.
Posted by Gayer-Anderson Cat (U13637930) on Saturday, 2nd June 2012
We're going to see the three remaining ones on Monday.聽
I think you may as well take all three. 聽
Ooh, yes. Then they could keep one another company whilst in your creche in the spare bedroom, as they wait to come out of "quarantine". Problem solved!
G-AC
Why not?
Ooh, three little kittenses - how lovely: as others have said, they'll be wonderful company for each other!
How long do they have to stop in for until we can give in and let him out?聽
Ah-HA! Your, 'How long do *THEY* have to stop in', has been duly noted. See, in your subconscious mind you already have all three in the cat carrier, ready to make that journey home ; ) They need to be inside for at least a week to 10 days after second vacs (which is a bit young for kittenses to venture outside to my mind, but rather depends on the circumstances). With females of course, you only get a small window between that and the possibility of pregnancy - until they're spayed.
Hmmm, catflap's not looking promising, is it? Spare room, it looks like. Could perhaps fit a screen door there, if you want everyone to be able to see each other before kits are officially introduced? (and so they can see out, and won't get too bored when you're not playing wit.... um, socialising them).
What colour(s) are your other two, by the way? And are they all boys, or is there a girly to even the score a bit? < insert butter-wouldn't-melt innocent-face smiley here >
Right, off to look at video of cat and fridge...
Gx
Ok... Own up.. C'mon, who was it
I KNOW it was one of you!
For the rest of you who don't know what's happened, it was like this: I went out yesterday to buy pussyfood. Difficulty getting home (a lorry driver wedges a crane/low loader under a flyover, and police wouldn't let anyone move lorry, or debris, or drive over/under the flyover until the County Flyover Surveyor came to supervise. Thus omnibuses going half way to the coast to come back, so I got home late and missed the postman. Thus Postman left a calling card for me to take ten types of identity to delivery office to collect parcel.. What Parcel?
What Parcel
I haven't ordered anything! Parcel turned out to be a furry cat toy, so it must have been one of you lot..
Only people here are me and Geo. r..... ------------- ! .. Oh!
'ERE, George, where are you
glo, have you left George alone with your computer at any time? They don't need opposable thumbs to tap a keyboard, you know.
Oh my god - does he have access to your credit card......?
Gx
Snork, glo, who knows what these cats get up to when we're not about? Just a shame for George that he's been found out.....
Now you lot, I am not getting three kittens. Three black and white kittens. I think they're all male, but one might be female. I know the one OH wants is male. He's also the naughtiest of them all. I'm looking forward to Monday. A screen door seems like a good idea, I'll look into that this weekend. Oh, also we can't see the door at the top of the stairs while we're in the living room unless I'm at the computer, so we'll need to work something out till tiny one can go out.
Gomez and Morticia didn't go out till 6 months old, Baldrick slightly younger although he was on a lead (hahahahaha, that lasted a long time!) so I suppose another two and a half months might be about right.
The 'they" above was a generic "they ". Honest.
Oh Dear, Yes, I did leave pooter on, with sundry cards about (abandoned trying to tax cat - I mean, car - , and left cards for a later attempt). I think He is trying to Blackmail me now.. Keeps sitting where I put his food bowl and looking confident - as though Something nasty will happen if I don't provide - like a Protection Racket. Is this what is meant by "Cat's Protection Society?".
Following 3 x sibling kittens with interest. It would be nice to keep the family together, but of course it ain't always possible, and keeping three households happy must be good.
Just for George:
Kittens, AelM, kittens.
Look into my eyes: Kittens, kittens, kittenSSSSSSSSSSSSS......
Rusty.
Unfortunately, Ruster, I cant seem to get any sound on my newly repaired pooter (it DID have sound before its repair), BUT.. look again - read the 2nd comment! I feel there's a story there.
Don't push AelM too hard - like I said, its nice for the feline family to be kept together, but think of AelM's purse - 3 x the food, 3 x vet bills/inoculations and so on, 3 x The Insurance. 3 x the repair of furniture and fabric....
Sorry about that, glo. That second comment - talkin about praising with faint damn.
This is a written version of the poem:
Yes, I know what you mean about the expense of three kittens vs. one or even two. Wouldn't it be nice to win the lottery, though.
Gil (32), I hadn't seen the new Simon's Cat video, and I don't remember seeing the mantlepiece one either. Where's the kitten though? (Kittens on the brain.)
Yellowcat (33), the cat on the fridge looked as if he was asking "Now, do you want me to start now?" as the "cameras rolled".
Rusty
, in reply to message 46.
Posted by laReine-Astrid (U10636638) on Saturday, 2nd June 2012
Tee hee hee
Oops, re kittenesses
Not the routine expenses that are the problem. Its the unexpected that worries me. Three times the trouble/worry/cost of moggie going AWOL. Three times the chance of cancelling Holidays, work etc because of cat illness. Three times the Cattery fees if one gets called away/goes into hosp etc.
The 'they' above was a generic 'they. Honest.'聽
Hahahahahaha - yeh, right!
Three black and white kittens.聽
Aha, a chess team plus one reserve. Most bodacious choice: Yay you!
Still awaiting kittenpix...
Gx
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