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Jan Vennegoor of Hesselink TV Gardener?

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  Posted by mr naughty corner (U2456974) on Saturday, 12th May 2007

  Is it true that current Celtic fotballer Jan Vennegoor of Hesselink has presented TV gardening programmes in his native Holland? Bearing in mind the contribution the Dutch make to horticulture, perhaps he is indeed "one to watch"?

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  Posted by MycotalWarrior (U7797013) on Sunday, 13th May 2007

  
  Hi Derek,
  
  Not sure if that is true or not, but will watch with interest.
  
  However on the subject of football gardeners, do you remember the legend of the south coast...Mr Matthew Le Tissier. He recently set up his own garden design business, specialising in football themed gardens, their all the rage, i saw one of his designs in the Gardeners World magazine recently. Not bad!
  
  Mycowaz.

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  Posted by hounded (U7956325) on Monday, 14th May 2007

  The dutch may grow lots for export and develop many plants. But on the whole I find that a lot of dutch peoples idea of garden is an oblong of paving slabs, with the odd one left open for a hydrangea to be planted. I live in a road in Amsterdam where we all have gardens (rare in a city where houses are built back to back). When I look from an upper window the Gardens are mostly paved. And the garden or "Tuin" programmes aim at this market. So I think apart from learning how to lay slabs, and buying ready well establish shrubs, I do not think that you would learn much. I have never seen them grow any thing from seed,or prune even a rose.

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  Posted by clavelsevillana (U7153095) on Monday, 14th May 2007

  Hi,
  Tha't a very cynical and narrow view of Dutch people and their gardens.
  While I agree that Dutch gardening programmes are absolute rubbish, many Dutch people, including ones who live in Amsterdam, are avid gardeners who do much more than fill their entire gardens with paving slabs and plonk in the odd hydrangea.
  I am Dutch and grow loads of stuff from seeds, including my veggies, and I used to have relatives in Amsterdam who had lovely gardens.
  Maybe you live in a street where not many people are interested in or have time for gardening, but that happens in every large city.
  You'd be surprised if you saw some of the lovely gardens which are hidden behind some of the large rows of houses in Amsterdam.
  And if you ever venture outside Amsterdam, you'd see that many houses in the rest of the country have lovely gardens as well.

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  Posted by hounded (U7956325) on Monday, 14th May 2007

  it is not just my straat I have friends all over amsterdam and and from the nickolas witsenkarde to my home in the wester park I have mostly found paved gardens, a place to entertain seems more important. I agree when the gardens a taken care of they are lovely. but as the range of plants show in places like osdorp, its pots and summer bedding, each side of me its paving and weeds.I would love for a real gardener to be on the TV here.

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  Posted by hounded (U7956325) on Monday, 14th May 2007

  it is not just my straat I have friends all over amsterdam and and from the nickolas witsenkarde to my home in the wester park I have mostly found paved gardens, a place to entertain seems more important. I agree when the gardens a taken care of they are lovely. but as the range of plants show in places like osdorp, its pots and summer bedding, each side of me its paving and weeds.I would love for a real gardener to be on the TV here. as to seed sowing I meant that on Tv there is no information on how given.

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  Posted by William (U2169036) on Monday, 14th May 2007

  Wrong friends maybe?
  
  But there is some truth in what you say, alltough I haven't looked into it in great depth.
  
  But I guess it depends on what you put on both ends of the equasion. In the urban Randstad city gardens are very small, and if one has such a small garden first priority is a patio to sit and entertain. And a shed for a varying assortment of bikes, chairs, parasols, the BBQ et cetera.
  
  Those who lack space (e.g. no garden at all) but do like gardening (growing food or an ornamental garden) often escape to plots outside the towns "Volkstuintjes" (often cramped in between our motorways and railwaysystem) which I can bee seen as the Dutch equivalent of allotments.
  
  But I really wonder if there is a big difference between gardens and gardening in Dutch and English cities.
  
  And I do agree TV gardening over here is rather poor. For over 75% it deals with landscaping, a seasonal garden 'pimping up' and the latest in outdoor furniture - on sale by the gardencentre chain that sponsors the show.
  When plants are involved it mainly consists of make over schemes way beyond the capability and / or budget of the average garden owner, or buying annuals.

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  Posted by mr naughty corner (U2456974) on Monday, 14th May 2007

  Last time I went to Amsterdam there were loads of beautiful colours everywhere.
  
  I would recommend such an Amsterdam trip to the house.
  
  But, is it true then that Venegoor of Hesselink is doing these tv programmes? I knew all about Le Tiss Mycowaz- I've seen one of his brochures- its very clever but just not my thing.
  
  Derek Pig
  
  

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  Posted by Dame Wombat (U2332024) on Tuesday, 15th May 2007

  is it true then that Venegoor of Hesselink is doing these tv programmes? 
  
  No chance DP, but it was a cracking effort at slipping the name 'Jan Venegoor of Hesselink' into a gardening post - for which I must commend you!
  
  I would imagine anyone playing football at that level has spent most of his short life concentrating on football and wouldn't have much time left for horticulture. I did see the great man score earlier in the season, in the same match as Ole Gunnar Solskjaer - which is another great name to slip into a gardening thread.
  
  Do you, by any chance, know any horticultural trivia about Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink (possibly the best name of all)?

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  Posted by missredhead (U3159604) on Tuesday, 15th May 2007

  'Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink' Did he not appear at Chelsea for a while? Great blue colours. Can be moved and re-planted elsewhere.

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  Posted by MycotalWarrior (U7797013) on Wednesday, 16th May 2007

  
  Hey Dezza,
  
  Did I ever tell you Ive got a Blue Peter badge..a special green gardening one as well!
  
  Not bad eh?
  
  Mycowaz.
  
  

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  Posted by mr naughty corner (U2456974) on Wednesday, 16th May 2007

  Hey mycowaz
  
  that's pretty impressive. I've got the Astronauts "Its all done by mirrors" album and a Mr Tourette t shirt and a large plastic cow head that, when you press the button, moos at you and the eyes glow red- I'll swap you!
  
  Derek Pig

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  Posted by MycotalWarrior (U7797013) on Wednesday, 16th May 2007

  
  Will definitly swap for the cows head.
  
  Mycowaz.

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  Posted by mentorscotus (U6826404) on Thursday, 17th May 2007

  If he is as good a garden presenter as he is a goal scorer at the "critical moment"....I think he would be worth watching.
  I have visited some GREAT Dutch gardens....and their seeds and bulbs are fab.
  ......He is a babe....
  Good footballer too.

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  Posted by Derek Pig (U14833635) on Thursday, 19th April 2012

  Hey Mycowaz- don't you still owe me for the cows head? Where's my blue peter badge?
  
  Derek Pig

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