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  Posted by green-buddha (U11615833) on Thursday, 20th August 2009

  On last night's 'Open Gardens' dear old Joe was giving advice on how to remove grass, and he advocated using a flame gun because it was 'organic'. Is it? Apart from the chemical element in the gas cylinder, is something which harms earthworms and other soil organisms organic? Somehow, I feel that it can't be, but I may be wrong (according to my wife I often am).

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  Posted by malanD (U7337386) on Thursday, 20th August 2009

  Was it last night or at the lunch time? I never knew one could use a flame gun to remove grass, I thought you dig it out bit by bit.
  
  In one episode, Joe said he is a designer so he doesn't do digging or planting to help people. Then few episodes later, Joe started digging and helping.

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  Posted by green-buddha (U11615833) on Friday, 21st August 2009

  Hi malanD
  Yes, you are quite right, it was at lunchtime (I really shouldn't write these messages just before my bed-time when I am half asleep).
  By the way, did you see the earlier episode where Joe had the cheek to "help" a professional garden designer plant a shrub, and after Joe had gone the man dug it up and replanted it because he wasn't satisfied with the planting? Hilarious!

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  Posted by malanD (U7337386) on Friday, 21st August 2009

  Yes, I saw that but the man did warn him that he may replant it if Joe didn't do the job properly. Made me laugh when he told Joe that he replanted it.

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  Posted by PenylanSue (U13901201) on Friday, 21st August 2009

  Green-buddha, organic means not using artificial chemicals in or on the soil or on plants. ie, you are not adding chemicals to the soil. Flame guns themselves are not adding any chemicals to the soil and so are an organic method of weed control in that sense. I suppose the gas used is not good but I feel that I'm compensating by all the other organic methods I use. I use a weed gun on the cracks in my paving. It's a lot easier than using a knife, (no bending) and I believe that no worms are harmed in the process. Most worms would be below surface level anyway and how many are killed when we dig?

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  Posted by green-buddha (U11615833) on Friday, 21st August 2009

  Hi PenylanSue,
  I take your point, but from your reply I get the feeling that you may not have seen the programme in question. In it Joe Swift got a lady to use a flame gun, but not on cracks in the pavement (even I wouldn't object to that) but in order to eradicate a fair-sized portion of her lawn. This is the usage which I question.
  
  P.S. There is an old saying that " the worm forgives the plow". I'm not sure that the worm (which can regenerate when cut through) forgives the flame gun.

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  Posted by green-buddha (U11615833) on Saturday, 22nd August 2009

  Sorry, that should be "plough" not "plow" - I really must try harder.

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  Posted by PenylanSue (U13901201) on Saturday, 22nd August 2009

  I thought that as it was old saying, it was an old spelling.

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