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No Gardeners World tonight?!
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Message 1.Â
Posted by marianneinholland (U14110897) on Friday, 21st August 2009
Hello I presume there is no Gardeners World tonight?
I love this show so much! I always stay home for this. I am so glad we get BBB One & Two here in Holland!
Any comments?
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Marianne -
Message 2
Posted by quitedutchbrit (U10671966) on Friday, 21st August 2009
You might get Ö÷²¥´óÐã 1 and 2 in Holland, but you wont get Gardener's World when Athletics is on!
What a CHEEK! What a NERVE!
Just simply to let the athletics go on and on and ON and never a word about GW.
Why is sport more important than vrtually ANYTHING else on TV??????
VERY
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Message 3
Posted by Daisy136 (U9682560) on Friday, 21st August 2009
Its always the same, they put everything before gardening.
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Message 4
Posted by londonplantmad (U2392946) on Friday, 21st August 2009
The athletics that is on at the moment far exceeds the rubbish we at subjected to on GW each week.
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Message 5
Posted by quitedutchbrit (U10671966) on Friday, 21st August 2009
The athletics that is on at the moment far exceeds the rubbish we at subjected to on GW each week.Â
This may or may not be true but is NOT the point!
If I were to choose between gardening and athletics I wouldn't choose athletics.
GW is on ONCE a week and they not only can't get the programme right yet, they can't even get he thing TELEVISED! -
Message 6
Posted by ellenkay (U11471453) on Friday, 21st August 2009
I am furious that they have just simply cut it out. Why couldn't they just run everything else late or they could have cut out the Tudors. We only have 1 programme for gardening a week so to cut out that without even a word is just not good enough.
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Message 7
Posted by green-buddha (U11615833) on Friday, 21st August 2009
I don’t happen to know anybody with a particular interest in athletics – although I’m sure such folk exist. But somehow I don’t think they are as numerous as football or cricket fans, nor as numerous as the Ö÷²¥´óÐã likes to think. And yet, so far this week Ö÷²¥´óÐã2 has offered them OVER THIRTY TWO HOURS of athletics.
Are these fans so insatiable that they must also rob us more modest viewers of our Friday half-hour of gardening too? Are they so selfish and unreasonable that when their programme overran tonight they could not be satisfied with seeing the remainder recorded and screened after midnight?
Without knowing the exact figures, I’m certain that the number of people in the UK who are passionate about gardening far outweighs those with a love of athletics.
I begin to utterly despair of the Ö÷²¥´óÐã. -
Message 8
Posted by daffworld (U14018684) on Friday, 21st August 2009
hi to you, i too settled down to watch gardeners world.at 8.30pm in my tv magazine it said.its on 8.30pm.and on tele text it said ,8.30pm after athletics. but 8.30 came and went.no gardeners world. i started watching traffic cops bbc 1,swopping over to bbc 2,to see if its on late.
9pm came.still no gardeners world. it might be on i player on computer.there it says its on 21st august. but it comes on fridays at 8am.
im getting really confused now.i might end up missing this episode as it might not be on tomorrow either.you would think some one would tell us whats going on wouldnt you?
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Message 9
Posted by malanD (U7337386) on Friday, 21st August 2009
It will be on Ö÷²¥´óÐã2 on Sunday at 5.35 I think. I am sure the usual viewers won't know and miss it. But then will they mind too much?
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Message 10
Posted by Fatbob70 (U10353157) on Friday, 21st August 2009
hi daff, on another thread they said it would be now shown on Sun at 5.35 (PM I assume although I would not be surprised if it was AM the way the beeb treat GW in preference to sport)
Not sure if it might be on the iplayer after the Ö÷²¥´óÐã Wales showing tomorrow afternoon ? Hope so, Sunday is too long to wait. -
Message 11
Posted by daffworld (U14018684) on Friday, 21st August 2009
well thats two thats said its on sunday,5.35.yes might be am.the way its going. it is very wrong,how the beeb treat our gardening viewers.
couldnt they have just stopped the sport.when gardeners world was to begin at 8.30pm. its upset many people on this message board tonight
hasnt it? prehaps it will be on i player then.
where did you learn it was on sunday.i never knew anything about that.i might have missed it.if it wernt for these messages. amazing how we get treated. daffworld -
Message 12
Posted by welshcol (U2301689) on Saturday, 22nd August 2009
It will be on Ö÷²¥´óÐã2 on Sunday at 5.35 I think. I am sure the usual viewers won't know and miss it. But then will they mind too much?Â
Confusingly I think you will find the Ö÷²¥´óÐã2 repeat and also the Monday HD episode has been conveniently removed, perhaps never to reappear again.
Agree someone has to prioritise the programmes being shown but at least they could announce at the time when it will be shown next at <...pm> so we can watch if we wish. The Ö÷²¥´óÐã catch all "of postponed till a later date", even when they do this, you either miss the the changed schedule or it does not occur at all. -
Message 13
Posted by garrigillgirl (U14111305) on Saturday, 22nd August 2009
I used to watch GW every week when Monty et. al were on and I've struggled with the new format and presenters but now the fact that it isn't on every week has further alienated me - is this a deliberate ploy -
- is the new style not attracting viewers - and are there changes afoot 
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Message 14
Posted by londonplantmad (U2392946) on Saturday, 22nd August 2009
The records being broken at the moment in Berlin far exceed anything that Toby can tell us. I am sure once you have seen the programme whenever it is most people will come on this board moaning about it. Ö÷²¥´óÐã does not bother about its viewers when they are off for weeks or the programme is 30 minutes instead of the hour so i certainly do not feel at all bothered that it is off for athletics. In fact i do not care if it is permanently off its so rubbishy now.
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Message 15
Posted by welshcol (U2301689) on Saturday, 22nd August 2009
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Message 16
Posted by jungle_jane (U1807090) on Saturday, 22nd August 2009
Why couldn't they just run everything else late or they could have cut out the Tudors.Â
The Tudors is a big thing for Ö÷²¥´óÐã2. Pulls in tons of viewers. I'm ashamed to say I watch it and have no idea why. I would say I have a good knowledge of the Tudor history and have no idea why but I can't stop watching it. It probably has something to with it sexing up history.
I went out and recorded it through Sky+ only to come home and find athletics instead
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Message 17
Posted by Cheerypeabrain (U3425151) on Saturday, 22nd August 2009
Whilst I understand that sporting events are important to many people, and that events such as the athletics are infrequent...I do think that it's a shame that the loyal viewers of a popular programme such as GW are treated with such disrespect.
I was seething last night when 8.30 came and went with no sign of my beloved GW....I don't know if any mention was made about the programme being cancelled as I had Ö÷²¥´óÐã2 on with the sound off
I can't stand sport...I do not watch it, nobody else in the family watches it either...we're not couch potatoes or anything..we have plenty of hobbies...just find sport tedious and boring. OH watched the mens' Wimbledon final...but I went out!
Presumably the series will be drawing to a close soon, as a demographic we gardeners obviously aren't as important as the millions who watch those dreadful reality programes that both Ö÷²¥´óÐã and ITV seem to churn out. -
Message 18
Posted by welshcol (U2301689) on Saturday, 22nd August 2009
Confusingly I think you will find the Ö÷²¥´óÐã2 repeat and also the Monday HD episode has been conveniently removed, perhaps never to reappear again. Â
Take it all back, programme has now magically appered at 5-30pm Ö÷²¥´óÐã-2 Sunday. Hope its worth waiting for but from trailer is not going to be topical anyway. -
Message 19
Posted by Paul N (U6451125) on Saturday, 22nd August 2009
Yup, they did announce this re-scheduling last night. Nothing's going on as has been suggested. It's just the usual Ö÷²¥´óÐã thing whenever Wimbledon, golf or sport is involved. The first thing to be moved will always be GW.
But let's be honest, with the tremendous amount of criticism on here, nobody's really missed it, have they? -
Message 20
Posted by Cheerypeabrain (U3425151) on Saturday, 22nd August 2009
I know that there is a lot of criticism of GW on this MB, but there are still quite a few people who enjoy watching the programme. Myself included.
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Message 21
Posted by garrigillgirl (U14111305) on Saturday, 22nd August 2009
I think the point that many of the posters are trying to make is that they DO like to watch it - and many of us are loyal and longtime viewers but the new format / presenters have not yet been able to find their feet and by canceling and/or moving episodes about the Ö÷²¥´óÐã is making it more difficult for us to take the new format etc. to heart
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Message 22
Posted by Allionii (U13954582) on Sunday, 23rd August 2009
I think the point most of us are trying to make is that it's not worth watching. They have had ample time to put it right and have failed abysmally.
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Message 23
Posted by Bluedoyenne (U2341157) on Monday, 24th August 2009
Not so Allionii - the point many of us are making is as Garrigirl (sp?) writes. Most viewers, whilst not thrilled with the new GW:
- DO think it's worth watching and
- DO think it is improving and
- DO look forward to it every Friday evening.
And we are therefore very disappointed when the schedulers either make no attempt at all to air a programme (as in so many weeks this year) or simply remove a scheduled programme at will. -
Message 24
Posted by Daisy136 (U9682560) on Monday, 24th August 2009
Bluedoyenne; well put, my thoughts exactly.
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Message 25
Posted by londonplantmad (U2392946) on Monday, 24th August 2009
Sorry i cannot agree with any of that. I liked watching GW a few years back when it was a good programme with an interesting format. Now its a few minutes of nothing much then a few minutes of more nothing much. Its tacky rubbish that does not put any of the presenters in a good light and makes them look amateurs which i am sure they are not. Since Carol has just done her bit at her own garden we even see her in a better light without having to play cat and mouse with the others. All these people i am sure are worth better. However if they want to allow themselves to be put down by the program makers thats their choice. I do not think it does much for their own credibility or the viewers watching them.
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Message 26
Posted by phyll_ostachys (U12011174) on Monday, 24th August 2009
Hi all. We too were equally disappointed at the last-minute change to the schedules on Friday. In response to your comments, I've spoken to Rosemary Edwards, series producer, about the decision to move GW last Friday and here's what she said:
"The Gardeners' World production team had worked very hard on producing Friday's programme. It was a project that had taken over 18 months to film and many of us had rushed home to watch it. However we know we are not the only programme that has to be rescheduled when faced with a live television event. It happens especially in sport and news events when timings don't always go according to plan. In this case a number of crucial World Championship final track events had been delayed and it was important to ensure those finals were played out live. Everyone can, however, still catch up with last Friday's episode on Iplayer for the next seven days." -
Message 27
Posted by Butternut (U7874795) on Monday, 24th August 2009
Very good of you to get a response from the GW series producer, and for her to take the time to comment.
Just a small point to add which perhaps is worthy of consideration.
Whilst most contributors to the Ö÷²¥´óÐã message boards could indeed catch up on iPlayer if they missed the rescheduled programme, there are many licence payers (five of my gardening neighbours included) who do not have internet access! Please remind those in 'power' that technology is not available to all its viewers!
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Message 28
Posted by Allionii (U13954582) on Monday, 24th August 2009
Nor do some of us want to watch television on a computer screen!
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Message 29
Posted by Paul N (U6451125) on Monday, 24th August 2009
As it happened I taped the re-scheduled GW programme and watched it this morning. It was really excellent, by far the best gardening programme I'd watched for months. Well done Beeb, more like this please.
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Message 30
Posted by green-buddha (U11615833) on Monday, 24th August 2009
"...a number of crucial World Championship final track events had been delayed and it was important to ensure those finals were played out live".
Why? Why was it so important that they were "played out live"? Many people are happy to watch recorded football matches. As I said in an earlier posting, Ö÷²¥´óÐã2 offered athletics fans OVER THIRTY TWO HOURS of athletics. Are these fans really so insatiable that they must also rob us more modest viewers of our Friday half-hour of gardening too? Are they so selfish and unreasonable that when their programme overran they could not be satisfied with seeing the remainder recorded and screened later that evening?
Just what is it about sports fans that makes them so demanding, and makes the Ö÷²¥´óÐã cave into their demands so readily?
We are licence payers too, and are not a minority. When was the last time a sporting broadcast was rescheduled because a gardening programme over-ran?
As I also said before, I begin to utterly despair of the Ö÷²¥´óÐã. -
Message 31
Posted by londonplantmad (U2392946) on Monday, 24th August 2009
Whether we are sports fans or not that is not really the problem here. The athletics was showing top class athletes who had worked consistently to give their best and many records were broken. That may sound very dull but its not a weekly event. Gardeners World has gone steadily down hill for quite a few years now. These boards show how unhappy viewers are with the program. So to blame these World Class athletes is a bit sad in my opinion. Maybe we should be asking why G.W has deteriorated so badly. Why the format is so bad and the content suitable for childrens T.V. On the other hand if thats what the gardener out there wants today they are welcome to it.
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Message 32
Posted by Daisy136 (U9682560) on Monday, 24th August 2009
Due to the total lack of gardening programmes I try to watch GW. I dont like the new format and often switch off but I watch it because I like to watch gardening on the TV and thats the only option available to me as I dont have Sky.
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Message 33
Posted by theweeshep (U13961168) on Tuesday, 25th August 2009
We are licence payers too, and are not a minority
^^Unfortunately, we are a minority. The beeb will always go with the majority, because ratings is the business it's in. If they can't compete with the commercial channels in terms of viewing figures they will not exist for long.
If you compare the amount of people who do sport (including dubious ones like darts and snooker!) or who watch sport and compare that to gardeners or parties that watch gardening programs the difference would be vast.
So, who do the beeb pander to in this instance? The minority or majority? Simple business sense really. Shame for us though.
Thought the last GW was very good. I might have actually learnt something! I hope they revisit the cottage again so we can see how that wisteria is looking.
Finally (as I don't post on this subject due to it's contention), I don't suppose anyone of much significance in the Ö÷²¥´óÐã does read these boards. Even if they did, why would they change the format of the show because "angry of Doncaster" moans on an internet forum. Until the viewing figures fall so much they have to address the format, a few moans won't be addressed. It seems that off these boards a lot of people do like GW as it is.
If you really want to make a difference, don't watch. Then the viewing figures go down. Watching on tv then complaining on here will have zero effect.
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Message 34
Posted by digitalgrandcanal (U11760543) on Tuesday, 25th August 2009
I get the feed from bbc norn iron, and they had the audacity to show gaelic football on the sunday instead of the climax to the athletics. Who cares? Get the athletics back on, they didn't even show highights of the athletics.
I wandered in during the Sunday GW, and I don't know what it was, the timing, the different day, it didn't 'feel' like a normal run of the mill GW. Anyone else feel the same? -
Message 35
Posted by Trillium (U2170869) on Tuesday, 25th August 2009
If you were the programme controller at the BEEB and had to choose between live World Championship athletics with finals being decided, or broadcasting a pre-recorded, not date specific programme, then it's a no-brainer.
Even if it had been a regular one hour show, whether we watched it on the Friday night or a day or so later, it isn't as time sensitive as a live, major sports final.
Somewhat on the other hand, I don't mind GW occasionally getting bumped when live events overrun, but I do mind it being off air so much of the year as a matter of course - and it should definitely be repeated in the week anyway. -
Message 36
Posted by Ariadne Knickerbocker (U4534559) on Wednesday, 26th August 2009
THis begs two questions
Why were we being shown a programme (interesting as it might have been) that was pre-recorded, not date specific when there has been so little 'proper' GW so far this year? Is that it? Is GW 'proper' over for the season now or is it just that nobody could be bothered to film an hour in the rain again.
As far as it being a 'no-brainer' to choose live athletics finals over it - what other programmes get shoved out of the way on such a regular basis? It always seems to be GW. -
Message 37
Posted by lawnclippings (U14136030) on Monday, 14th September 2009
I've read lots of messages on the board about GW being transmitted on different days in other regions because of sport and at different times. Perhaps the Ö÷²¥´óÐã should show GW on Ö÷²¥´óÐã3 instead of constant repeats of Topgear, or move some dreadful sports event to Ö÷²¥´óÐã3. Ö÷²¥´óÐã Controller leave GW alone, on Friday at 8pm, there's a dear.
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