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Gardeners' World 11th September
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Message 1.聽
Posted by saima_host (U13967342) on Friday, 11th September 2009
Hi all
a preview clip for tonight's show is available at
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Message 2
Posted by jungle_jane (U1807090) on Friday, 11th September 2009
Not "Gardener of The Year" again? Giving her 15 minutes to take cuttings from two plants while Toby stands over her with a clipboard seems a bit silly to me.
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Message 3
Posted by David K (U2221642) on Friday, 11th September 2009
....and you're going to have the dubious privilege of choosing the winner, providing you contribute to the 主播大秀 coffers via your phone bill.
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Message 4
Posted by poshHebeJeebie (U9319867) on Friday, 11th September 2009
Not impressed. With the table. With the competition. With the programme. Just wish there was something else on TV to seduce me away from just hoping this week it WILL be better . . .
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Message 5
Posted by David K (U2221642) on Friday, 11th September 2009
Carol's slot was informative as ever. However, (although I've never uttered a word of criticism of her) I am beginning to wonder if she ever does anything other than propagation.
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Message 6
Posted by mommydoos (U2592301) on Saturday, 12th September 2009
Perhaps thats all they let her do David! She is good at it though and we all like a freebie plant or two!
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Message 7
Posted by groundelder (U11750698) on Saturday, 12th September 2009
Oh dear, I think it is now time to put Gardener's World out of its' (and our) misery.
"Must see" is now "not bothered".
A lethal injection of abstention is now the only option.
RIP -
Message 8
Posted by Obelixx (U2157162) on Saturday, 12th September 2009
Why did they have to reinvent woodland? What's wrong with a real woodland using shrubs and trees that are attractive and provide food and shelter for wildlife? I don't get bamboo unless they have fabulous stems colour and ;one of those seem to.
I don't understand why you'd want to concrete a table into a woodland - in a garden open to force 9 gales all year yes, maybe, but not in a sheltered garden in the middle of Brum. I don't get the shape either - pretty but hardly convicial if intended for dining.
Carol does only seem to do propagating these days but I'm glad that there is one serious bit of horticulture in the Current GW void and I didn't know about tbeing able to do root cuttings with Japanese anemones. I've always done divisions before but this looked a lot easier and more productive.
I enjoyed seeing the GOTY garden but it was a bit hurried. I don't think I like this new format for the competition - too bitty and short and the voting system doesn't seem fair to those whose gardens are shown earlier. I also thought TB's remark about her autumn pot not being innovative was crass. We've seen his idea of innovation and it's crud and shoddy all the way.
Oh dear. What a mess. -
Message 9
Posted by Stressed out (U11163734) on Saturday, 12th September 2009
Obelixx
I think you summed it up quite well
"What a mess"
A program with nothing for nobody
I think the producer needs to resign or get another job in MacDonalds, in fact I don't think MacD's would employ them. You have destroyed Friday night.
It makes me wonder if they live in a flat with no garden? -
Message 10
Posted by londonplantmad (U2392946) on Saturday, 12th September 2009
Looks like strictly come dancing will be getting the viewers for the next few weeks. You never know Toby and Alys may be dancing on that table for their 30 minutes. At least that might be worth watching forget the gardening its Lambada v Foxtrot.
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Message 11
Posted by Petalina (U13862206) on Saturday, 12th September 2009
I enjoyed this weeks programme and thought it was better than the last few programmes.I loved Joe's bit from the garden near Leeds. Thought the GOTY lady's container was a it 1980s - retro perhaps?
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Message 12
Posted by Trillium (U2170869) on Sunday, 13th September 2009
I enjoyed it too. The half hour was packed tight with plenty of meaty content on plants, design and how to's.
Re GOTY, surely it'ss not possible to make the programme for less than one crew trip to each garden, 拢50 each for a planter and some cuttings. It's no reflection on the candidates, just makes you wonder why it's being kept going if the budget is almost zero. It's like deciding Masterchef by inspecting someone's kitchen, then making them cook one dish while the judges look on. -
Message 13
Posted by geranium (U7743914) on Sunday, 13th September 2009
I am enjoying GW.Most weeks there is a mix of different items -design /info about plants / visits to different gardens/ practical gardening info with further details on the website- and presented by people who seem to enjoy gardening.
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Message 14
Posted by jungle_jane (U1807090) on Monday, 14th September 2009
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I seem to remember last year on the Garden Of The Year programme them over using that low "dramatic dread" chord as they announced the scores of each round. Just like masterchef does.
It makes me wonder if the same people are now making both programmes using the same sort of mold.
Never really enjoyed the whole idea of picking just one gardener to be better than any of the others by giving them little challenges. I think that they should just judge each gardener by what effort they have put into their own gardens instead.
Gardening is not a competitive sport in my opinion. -
Message 15
Posted by Bluedoyenne (U2341157) on Monday, 14th September 2009
An enjoyable programme with lots of helpful information appealing to a wide audience IMHO. Carol, as usual, is wonderful but the team member who is really becoming 'the one to watch' is Joe. He showed a lovely garden again this week and his design advice/perspective is very useful and welcome (and did anyone notice how he couldn't keep a straight face when referring to Greenacre's "sandy CLAY soil"
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Re GOTY - I thought they were just in the preliminary round trying to whittle the list down to the final participants for 'the real thing' but, if other posters are correct, then I appear to have got the wrong end of the stick. -
Message 16
Posted by Ariadne Knickerbocker (U4534559) on Monday, 14th September 2009
I had forgotten that I asked on the Gardener's World blog about the sand/clay question. This is the answer that Saima gave:
In response to your question, when the soil was tested in March by the RHS Soil Analysis Service, the results showed that the soil type varied according to location. The analysis illustrates that in general Greenacre has a sandy clay loam and therefore the characteristics of more then one soil type. The soil type at Greenacre is not a classic sandy soil but it is easier to work then a pure clay soil. 聽
So clear as mud then... or should that be clear as er.. clay loam -
Message 17
Posted by Trillium (U2170869) on Monday, 14th September 2009
A sandy clay loam is a clay soil with some sandiness. The second word denotes the primary characteristic, the first word is adjectival. As we could see on the TV, it's essential a clay soil.
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Message 18
Posted by Trillium (U2170869) on Monday, 14th September 2009
...though the percentages of each do seem to vary depending upon which definition you look up.
It quite plainly binds into an impermeable water retaining layer when trodden on though, which clay can do and sand cannot. -
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Posted by Bluedoyenne (U2341157) on Monday, 14th September 2009
I've been dreaming of their impermeable water retaining layer all during our long hot, dry summer. And whilst all that sunshine and heat have been good for the morale, it's been awful for the garden which can only be described as 'frizzled'. Can't wait for a wet Autumn when the grass may once again turn green and the water utilities company shareholders stop sending me those 'thank you' letters!
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Message 20
Posted by the cycling gardener (U2350416) on Monday, 14th September 2009
By and large not a bad effort. High spots: Carole鈥檚 section was superb and like Obelixx I was intrigued by her method of propagating Anemones. Joe鈥檚 tour of York Gate was inspiring and informative.
Low points: The Woodland - Toby and Joe barely create any sort of planting (which has to be contemporary or with a twist) without a construction of some sort. Perhaps this isn鈥檛 surprising as they are essentially garden designers who like making things. Toby鈥檚 lost his 30 minute fix so this week we got a table with reassurances that it didn鈥檛 cost as much as it looked. Although I quite liked its sculptural quality it didn鈥檛 integrate with the planting and appeared out of scale. It鈥檚 a shame they used Phyllostachys 鈥楢urea鈥 when there are alternatives from the genera out there with much better stem colour.
The GOTY formula has been symplified and demoted from a programme of its own to quick slots in 30 minute GWs with the winner announced on the final programme of the series which in my opinion devalues the process and the award.
Typically we were told 鈥渋ts almost too late to order bulbs by mail order, but not quite鈥. Why weren鈥檛 we told about ordering bulbs a couple of weeks ago then?
I'll poke my head out of the closet now and admit to you all, I'm The Cycling Gardener and I'm a Stricly fan. Guess what I'll be watching next week? -
Message 21
Posted by Obelixx (U2157162) on Monday, 14th September 2009
You and me both CG - except for the cycling.
I wish they'd been mor etimely with their advice throughout the series - sowing seeds, pricking out, planting on, ordering for the next season, planning ahead and sowing wallflowers (if you like that sort of thing) and winter brassicas for the kitchen. You also have to wonder when they're going to do some serious lawn care for novices and those of us with weeds taking over after a dry summer has weakened the grass and others who've had a soggy summer.
I agree about Joe and his design bits being good, also about too much "contemporary" content, and he still leaves me uncomfortable or even pained about the ears. -
Message 22
Posted by Petalina (U13862206) on Monday, 14th September 2009
Bluedoyenne - we had a washout summer
do you know what weather they had in Brum? -
Message 23
Posted by Bluedoyenne (U2341157) on Tuesday, 15th September 2009
Hi Petalina, I know it was really awful weather-wise on your side of the Channel which is why I kept quiet about conditions this side (the last thing one needs amidst constant grey skies and rain is someone shouting about the heat and lack of rainfall).
Judging by the few programmes we've seen from Greenacre this summer, I'd say it was pretty wet there too!
Here's to a sunny 2010
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Message 24
Posted by Paul N (U6451125) on Tuesday, 15th September 2009
Our friends in Wales tell us that they've had their log burner going since June in their wettest ever summer in ten years. Here in Kent we've had our driest summer for many years so today's heavy rainfall is rather welcomed.
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Message 25
Posted by the cycling gardener (U2350416) on Tuesday, 15th September 2009
Friends in north west Scotland say its the worst summer they've had in years with rain pretty much every day for months. Its been fairly dry in Hertfordshire but not particularly warm aside from one week at the end of June.
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Message 26
Posted by smilingJayelle (U14137260) on Tuesday, 15th September 2009
It's been another poor summer here too - the 3rd in a row
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Message 27
Posted by Stressed out (U11163734) on Thursday, 17th September 2009
Its global warming, it was a wonderful hot dry summer 35c every day (NOT)
As you say three shocking summers in a row -
Message 28
Posted by treechange (U14126469) on Thursday, 17th September 2009
amongst global warming trends for northern Europe: more precipitation!
It's not just only about temperature you know
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