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Posted by groovygran (U2934690) on Saturday, 12th September 2009
Did anyone watch this prog on Ö÷²¥´óÐã1 on wed. last (early evening)?
On the face of it it wasn't a gardening prog. but I wonder if this is the direction future progs might take. Nigel S. is a keen gardener - writes regularly in the RHS mag. 'Garden' - and even in this prog. he was showing his plot and talking about growing. Also has an article in last week's RT about gardening. Maybe showing how to use your own produce might encourage less knowledgeable folk to keep persevering.
Might be worth watching this space!
Obviously not so much for the more experienced gardener.
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Posted by garrigillgirl (U14111305) on Saturday, 12th September 2009
Groovygran,
Hi, I watched and enjoyed Nigel's slot - the photography was lovely - made me want to go outside and plant up some salad mix.......... but I also like a more serious gardening programme - like GW used to be - of an hour in length - not too much to ask once a week - think there's room for both but I will continue to watch - in preference to GW at the minute NS
I thought that the emphasis of the program was supposed to be about him doing his quick meals but using the things that he grown himself. The idea being that you can eat well with simple prep and enjoy just picking a few things from the garden as inspiration.
Was I the only person who could see that the 'studio' kitchen was not leading into his real garden?
But then I'm not complaining as I recognised his oven as being one we have only just started promoting at work and was a happy bunny to see it on telly.
Liz
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Posted by Aspidistra (U11680993) on Wednesday, 16th September 2009
What a great programme this is turning out to be. A real cookery programme - simple recipes with food that we all like to grow. He has a nice, unpretentious manner and the whole thing is straightforward and not bedecked with silly camera work or silly people doing silly things.
I liked his tomatoes with cream recipe tonight - I don't need to trawl through a recipe to remember that it was a simple addition of cream that made it interesting. The rhubarb recipes were great, too, although as I understand one should only use young rhubarb because of the build up of oxalic something or others in older rhubarb, the season was a bit out of kilter.
But good for Nigel and the production team, a really enjoyable half hour.
I'm sorry, after reading about this programme last week ( which I had missed ), I looked forward to this weeks. I didn't feel that he came up with anything that was inspiring. Yes the cream on the toms looked worth a try, but as for the other meals......
The rhubarb tart is something I have been doing for years using any selection of fruit I have - even mincemeat at Xmas.
No I'm sorry - but I get more interesting/tempting/inspiring recipes from this site using fruit and veg which is in season NOW.
I think I will stick to asking you lot
Gem
If you have been cooking for yonks (like I have), you would know it all but there is still something that you can learn. Nigel's series is for those who may have started to grow veg/fruits and like to know what to do with the harvest. This series is for the majority. I like his style better than his cooking so I watch him.
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Posted by Aspidistra (U11680993) on Thursday, 17th September 2009
Well I don't think it is all old hat at all. I thought the mackerel with rhubarb seemed a very original idea!
I always feel cheated when they say it's a weeks worth of recipes, when actually it's five days and one of the recipes is a pudding (or even a cocktail in the Jamie Oliver magazine).
Yes you are right MalanD, there is always something to learn , I have been running a house since I was 15 which is over 30 yrs now, and I learnt to cook at my mothers side for as long as I can remember. I was just disappointed that he didn't come up with anything new. This is my first year at growing, and I have lots of new things like chard, I was hoping for more ideas for tasty family meals that are different. I think having been clever and grown my own - I want to be more creative with the cooking !!
Gem
I like the Nigel Slater programme because it's slow and soothing and not at all manic and it works with what you have rather than giving an endless shopping list of expensive or esoteric ingredients.
It does assume you have a well stocked pantry but I like the way he pops into the garden for herbs and veggies. For anyone seeking more specific recipes, the following site can be used to look up almost any ingredient and has loads for Swiss chard -
Pardon me for expressing an alternate view on modern day living. Cookery progs try to show us how to cook. One series does its best to tell us how to keep our house clean and clutter free. What most youngsters and newly married lack is the basic knowledge of how to manage a home, kitchen in particulour.
It would help if a series is aimed only at how to run a house effectively on a low budget. Economy Gastronomy is one such prog but it is way off mark showing families spending well over £100 a pwk on grocery shopping alone. Reality is that most families may have less than that to spend on food per week. They may also need to cut down on that amount due to the recession. The series should have tried to help these type of people as well. The series is ignoring them.
I have well stocked kitchen cupboards and freezer. Being Indian and vegetarian, I am thrifty by nature. I feel the tv shows need to follow Delia's suit and go back to basic teaching in household management.
MalanD, you're talking about a whole new progralle concept. Nigel Slater is about making simple but delicious meals from what is to hand and encouraging people to grow fresh herbs and veggies. Some of it is contrived but it is gentle and informative.
Economy Gastronomy did certainly help some extravagant families but also some ordinary ones who just hadn't much of a clue about being organised to be thrifty.
We recently had What to Eat Now with Valentine wotsit but that wasn't exactly economic with all his lobster and crayfish and duck. We've got teh Hairy Bikers doing a tour of Britain to find out about regional ingredients and recipes. We've had Delia's How to Cook but it wasn't how to manage a weekly budget and menus using seasonal and cheaper ingredients to provide cheap, healthy meals for a family or a couple.
It's a pity we can't have an equal range of decent gardening programmes.
at least Nigel Slater is interesting, cooks great simple meals and knows his friut and veg. Enjoyed his books 'Toast' and 'Eating for England' too. Think that there is room on t.v. for all kind of 'gardening' progs.
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Posted by Aspidistra (U11680993) on Thursday, 24th September 2009
'Toast' is one of my all time favourite autobiographies. Absorbing, full of pathos and so reminiscent of a point in time. It was reading that book that made me pay attention to his food writing as he is such an articulate writer and clearly has a real passion for food.
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Posted by groundelder (U11750698) on Friday, 25th September 2009
Me too, Aspidistra.
A wonderful, nostalgic, observational book that I couldn't put down.
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Posted by everhopeful (U11289037) on Friday, 25th September 2009
I am with you there Aspidistra I love the Nigel Slater progs, and will buy the book that goes with the shows.I also enjoyed Toast a couple of years ago.
I am now planning having a cold frame outside my kitcen door and putting boxes and pots of veg and herbs on the garden table to be handy during the winter. He makes it all look so simple. wasnt the Indian woman on the allotment interesting with all the different species of veg?
I try not to be too critical of all the other progs as I think there are so many of them that we can choose which we want to watch.
Having said all that its fish and chips tonight as I have been out all day and we have a really good chippie here.
EH
I love him too.
Now, you might expect this, but it seems that it was working with Monty on the Observer that got him interested in growing veg.
Good programmes - really nice.
Monty designed his veg plot.
I've been reading Nigel Slater in the Guardian for so long I'm bored with his writing style, so I haven't read his autobiography. I still look at the recipes though, and we have The 30-Minute Cook which is in fairly regular use.
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Posted by Aspidistra (U11680993) on Wednesday, 30th September 2009
Another fine programme tonight. I think it is a credit to him that I find it interesting even though I'm a veggie - he is such a calm, informative presenter it is so refreshing after all the mad music/camera angles/oh we are so groovy stuff cookery and gardening programme stuff.
He can't stay away from the cream for long though.
I saw the programme for the first time last night and what a pearl! Lovely, lovely food and, as others have written, delivered in an un-fussy and relaxing way. I regret not having seen the programme from the beginning and hope there will be a book to accompany the series. Does anyone know if this is so?
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Posted by garrigillgirl (U14111305) on Thursday, 1st October 2009
I love it too.......the photography is beautiful and his little garden (I presume it IS his) is lovely - he makes me feel warm and fuzzy with his relaxed style - the food is easy enough and I LOVE cream...........
He has a new book out, which I presume ties in with the series.
Garrigillgirl, that is actually my only beef with Nigel Slater, he uses cream and butter all the time I wish he were just a little bit lighter on the cals - although he often says it is an 'extra'.
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