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Gardeners' World 2nd October
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Message 1.Â
Posted by saima_host (U13967342) on Friday, 2nd October 2009
Hello all
a clip from tonight's show is available at
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Message 2
Posted by poshHebeJeebie (U9319867) on Friday, 2nd October 2009
Didn't see it. Couldn't be bothered.
Lack of response on this thread may mean that others couldn't, either.
Says it all!
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Message 3
Posted by David K (U2221642) on Saturday, 3rd October 2009
Lack of response on this thread may mean that others couldn't, either.Â
Quite agree, PHD. I think response (or lack of it) to this thread is indicative of gardeners general feeling of disillusionment with GW.
Btw, didn't bother to watch it either. -
Message 4
Posted by LEAVEMEALONE (U14126978) on Saturday, 3rd October 2009
Neither did I, can we change the title of the thread to "So you can't be bothered? Well neither can we!"
I'm starting to think that they are deliberately trying to kill the programme off
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Message 5
Posted by Gianttrowel (U10674701) on Saturday, 3rd October 2009
I actually thought it was quite good this week. Did anybody else????!!!!
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Message 6
Posted by sinbad1917 (U13978774) on Saturday, 3rd October 2009
I watched it. Thought it was excellent as usual.
Apparently the viewing figures have been holding up well all year too, so clearly the persistent whingers on here are in a minority with their boycotts etc.
Back to the programme - loved the bit on grasses. I'm off to garden centre today to see what I can find. Also going to follow up Alys's bit on the chop suey greens (Chyrsanthemum coronarium, I believe?). I wasn't sure whether she was advising sowing them indoors though - I'm assuming so given the time of year. -
Message 7
Posted by BingoDegu (U14159033) on Saturday, 3rd October 2009
My family and I love to tune in every Friday. This is our first year of growing our own food,as well as growing flowers, and the advice of the crew at Gardeners World has been invaluable. The fact that they give basic, clear information and fun projects with plants has really given us a passion for the garden. So, for Toby and the rest of the presenters, we want to thank you for showing us that gardening isn't boring, and even novices like us can get out there and create something wonderful.
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Message 8
Posted by jungle_jane (U1807090) on Saturday, 3rd October 2009
Anyone else notice Toby planting the azaleas without teasing the roots out first? Even my other half who doesn't like gardening spotted it.
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Message 9
Posted by omegaLexa (U7472510) on Saturday, 3rd October 2009
From what I can recall, they never teased out the roots, just planted straight from pot to ground. I haven't watched GW for some weeks but from what you say, they still don't.
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Message 10
Posted by LEAVEMEALONE (U14126978) on Saturday, 3rd October 2009
It strikes me that the only people who are enjoying Gardeners World are the beginners who don't know whether they are being told anything useful or not!
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Message 11
Posted by jo4eyes (U13654107) on Saturday, 3rd October 2009
Careful, one of previous posters, Gianttrowel, is a previous winner of GOTY.
BTW I enjoyed it too. I'm fed up with all the 'nit-picking', it isn't perfect, but was it ever? J. -
Message 12
Posted by David K (U2221642) on Saturday, 3rd October 2009
Apparently the viewing figures have been holding up well all year too, so clearly the persistent whingers on here are in a minority with their boycotts etc.Â
I would point out that we are invited by the Ö÷²¥´óÐã to ‘have your say and share your comments about the current crop of Ö÷²¥´óÐã gardening programmes’…. it doesn’t specify that only favourable comments are welcome.
You may note that the ‘whingers’ always confine their comments to the programme itself and never resort to name calling of fellow messageboarders who hold a different opinion from theirs. -
Message 13
Posted by David K (U2221642) on Saturday, 3rd October 2009
Careful, one of previous posters, Gianttrowel, is a previous winner of GOTY.
BTW I enjoyed it too. I'm fed up with all the 'nit-picking', it isn't perfect, but was it ever? J.Â
jo4eyes - I've never had the pleasure of meeting Gianttrowel (although from what I read here he does seem a knowledgeable and decent chap). However, I'm sure he would agree that there are other posters here that are also well versed in the ways of gardening and capable of forming an intelligent opinion. -
Message 14
Posted by Goldilocks (U2169760) on Saturday, 3rd October 2009
I watched it, and enjoyed it. (Carol looked and sounded as if she had just had a glass or two of something , which made me warm to her.)
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Message 15
Posted by nooj (U13729031) on Saturday, 3rd October 2009
I waited for the usual comments to appear straight after the show had been aired.
Nothing!
Was everyone more pleased, or worn out?
I found it pleasant but bland. -
Message 16
Posted by londonplantmad (U2392946) on Saturday, 3rd October 2009
I watched it and i did notice Toby giving an explanation of the soil content sandy clay loam mixture i think he has been reading these boards. How much of the 30 mins was actually there 5 minutes maybe. I cannot see why they ever developed the new site a lot of expense for 5 minutes a week. How long before the program is scrapped i predict very soon in its present format. The banter has gone and soon only the captain will be on board.
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Message 17
Posted by Goldilocks (U2169760) on Saturday, 3rd October 2009
In today's Telegraph Monty Don says he didn't really believe in Berryfields - thought it was like gardening in a giant carpark. He now thinks that the style of gardening he advocated then is wrong and is going 'wild', letting everything self seed and spread, not mulching, etc...
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Message 18
Posted by Trillium (U2170869) on Saturday, 3rd October 2009
I can't say Berryfield caught my imagination either - it always seemed rather vast and somewhat gloomy - not sure why.
Monty is entitled to consider 'wild and free' the right way for him - it's a perfectly natural development for someone who has a strong grasp of horticulture to sense the where and how of letting their grip loosen. It's easier in a bigger, rural space too. It's hugely difficult for less experienced gardeners to know what can be left and what will result in a complete mess. And any show gardeners who have attempted it will confirm that aesthetically it's a very fine line indeed.
I didn't see the programme as I was away. If the threads are anything to go by, the level of annoyance is clearly down and there are some signs of actual pleasure, so this is surely progress. -
Message 19
Posted by hypercharleyfarley (U7444019) on Saturday, 3rd October 2009
Hi Aunty Nooj! It was so exciting that Ma actually fell asleep about a quarter of the way through. Should she watch it on I-player? Love, as always, from Hypercharleyfarley & The Accomplice.
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Message 20
Posted by nooj (U13729031) on Saturday, 3rd October 2009
Hi Ma
I would say better than recently, and better than nothing at all
Love to my boys
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Message 21
Posted by jungle_jane (U1807090) on Sunday, 4th October 2009
From what I can recall, they never teased out the roots, just planted straight from pot to ground.Â
So all the plants at greenacre will become rootbound in a few years then?
Surely that isn't setting a good example to beginners also. I know to most gardeners it's second nature, but newbie's may take a while to remember it. -
Message 22
Posted by bookhimdano (U10771514) on Sunday, 4th October 2009
show seemed ok to me. a bit feminised and picture crafted [see the potting shed scene] which gives it an artificial studio feel. thankfully i could fast forward the carol bit on iplayer.
still nothing on lawns or hedges or tree pruning? how they must hate them? even though that is mainly the average punters contact with gardening?
how about a bit of hedge and tree law showing people what they can do about the 40ft triffids the neighbour thinks is ' a hedge'. and why letting trees grow high can cost you a fortune to repair a neighbours house and drains.
hated the garden compo. is the speed at which you garden what makes you a good gardener? does trying to cook a roast dinner in 30 minutes likely to make it a better roast dinner?
all the good gardeners i know are those who can think 9-12 months ahead.
given oct is the 'start' of the season rather than the 'end of it' there might have been a bit more emphasis on what you do now will affect what happens next year? or will gw start up in may again when its too late to be thinking about anything much?
thankfully these days anything you need to know is on the net with vids to help. -
Message 23
Posted by garrigillgirl (U14111305) on Sunday, 4th October 2009
Hi Bookhimdano - hope that's right
Being fairly new to gardening I too would like to see what to do overwinter to make the garden and veggie plot ready for the Spring - last year I left it too late to order garlic and wanted to plant a green manure overwinter - also scarifying the lawn etc. (is that what you call it?)
I don't have a greenhouse or cold frame as yet and would like to know a bit about keeping precious plants safe during the frost...........any chance? -
Message 24
Posted by bookhimdano (U10771514) on Monday, 5th October 2009
plenty of stuff about the gardening year online. or try the charity shops were you can pick up excellent textbooks for 50p.
imo gardening is best seen as a year. about getting into the rhythm if not the [usually comic] rituals. the victorian kitchen garden [and flower garden] is good inspiration. bits are online at the usual .
i was lucky to be trained in a walled garden/nursery/landscaping firm with a rhs trained foreman which gave an overview.never laughed so much in my life.
i also learnt family traditions of storing food etc as they were originally country village peasants. after ww1 my grandmother made table cloths from flax she grew herself. we still have it.
for some reason there is no sense of year or rhythm in gw or tv gardening in general. i think people miss that. maybe some producer will have the courage to let go the belief the public have a 5 minute attention span and learn how to build a rolling series that may seem 'slow' but is a better product. As it is its phone in and compos but then they must be under pressure to appear trendy and get the 'yoof'. -
Message 25
Posted by bookhimdano (U10771514) on Monday, 5th October 2009
if anyone is interested
Canada Vignettes - From Flax to Linen
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Message 26
Posted by ArtemisHP (U12217956) on Monday, 5th October 2009
which made me warm to herÂ
She must be relieved!
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