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Posted by Stressed out (U11163734) on Friday, 4th December 2009
An hour long special on the League of Extraordinary Gentleman who set up the RHS in 1804
+ seven modern-day 'experts' ponder the future of gardening
What an awful program.
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Posted by masterlaphroaig (U14244395) on Friday, 4th December 2009
props department failing, plastic planters on table.
No one does this as well as the Ö÷²¥´óÐã, when they put their mind to it.
Interesting & informative to the end, even to acknowledging how revered Alan T is to us all.
One minor reservation, I don't know why it should have been narrated by Sandi Toksvig.
Not a patch on CK's programme last week and was just a ramble through the hierarchy and history of the RHS. That's what "was on the packet" I guess but surely with a story to tell like that could have made it a bit, no I mean a lot!!, more engaging and entertaining. opportunity missed with only two items of note: AT at the end and the contact page for Crocus which appears a very user friendly, informative and logical gardeners website which is to be initially recommended at
i shop with crocus- not sure why they should be singled out.
Gardening & farming history is very close to my heart (the Victorian era especially) so perhaps that coloured my opinion...Anyway, I thought it was an excellent program and on a par with Carol's.
Thought it was a bit dull. I didn't really care about the private lives of the 7 founders. I was more interested with how it came to be what it was today, which they seemed to blank over completely. Instead of filling it with opinions on what the RHS is to gardeners which us gardeners already know.
The guy pointing out that the RHS should be more multicultural was just ridiculous. Since when did skin colour matter anyway?
Yet again rubbish rubbish rubbish I feel ashamed to give the bbc my licence money for this sort of thing.Take a leaf out of channel 4
Jamie at home a very good and entertaining programe plus River cottage and we dont even give them any licence money .Yet again bbc hang your head in shame.
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Posted by hypercharleyfarley (U7444019) on Saturday, 5th December 2009
Hello! ref message 3 - don't think they were taking it too seriously - after all, didn't I see one of the "costumed" characters alight from a black taxi? Cheers! Ma.
.....didn't I see one of the "costumed" characters alight from a black taxi? Cheers! Ma.Â
I do not think it was intended to be a real re-inaction since one bought a Big Issue, another went to a hole in the wall for cash etc so I think someone was setting the scene of a the formation group,of actors!!!!, getting together to inaugurate the RHS. Too deep for me.
Enjoyed it all, but then I am a history fan. This was the era of invention and of margarine? Yes, Napoleon wanted a a cheaper and more durable alternative to butter for his troops!
Have only just managed to watch it and I agree with David K it was great.I love to find out about the history of institutions and places we visit.
EH
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Posted by londonplantmad (U2392946) on Sunday, 6th December 2009
I agree that history is very interesting. However i found the format of this program very amateurish and bored me to bits for the 60 minutes.
The programme typified the view that seems to be widely held by the "media luvvies" these days that the notions "information" and "entertainment" are quite separate entities which the viewer is unable to recognise as such and thus need to be mixed up!
To darren636
Did you not notice one of the partner founders of crocus sitting on board at the committe meeting of RHS. Pardon me if I am wrong. Mind you I do think it is a very good business and I liked the attitude of the 2 partners shown.
EH
The only morsel of interest for me in the programme - I couldn't be bothered to see it until the end - was that the RHS was formed in an upstairs room in Hatchard's Bookshop in London's Piccadilly, which is where I was a few weeks ago at Vera Lynn's book signing. I also went there on Monday too, a superb bookshop.
Heads up.
For those who luckily missed this episode but who perhaps wish to see for themselves -there is a repeat on Saturday 12th Dec. on Ö÷²¥´óÐã2 Wales.
good luck
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Posted by Joe_the_Gardener (U3478064) on Saturday, 12th December 2009
welshcol,
What does 'heads up' mean? Someone on another board posted an explanation in answer to a query, but I was none the wiser when they'd finished! (Hope this doesn't get moved to Word of Mouth.)
heads up means attention or a forewarning.
I think it's from the category which includes 'a big ask' or something demanding. Another example of our language being mutilated.
our language??? i wonder what folks from the 19th century would think about 'their' language now...
It is one thing for language to evolve to suit changing technology and social evolution. It is quite another for it to be demeaned by ignorant terms like "big ask" and gobsmacked" when there are perfectly acceptable and far more attractive and accurate words available - "a lot to ask" and "speechless/amazed/thrilled" accordingly.
What does 'heads up' mean?Â
Just what "darrenp" said Joe just a term for low priority "attention if you want to" I guess.
The thing that throws me are the letter abbreviations its worse than trying to solve a crossword some times. take care.
but therein lies the beauty of this form of communication- it is defined by its use, so we can all decide. example- i want to strangle people who say 'chomping at the bit' oh that makes me nuts!
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Posted by hereisabee (U2342191) on Saturday, 12th December 2009
I think 'heads up' is absolutely pukka, after all if the RHS is collecting plants from around the world, they can hardly say no to some words too?
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Posted by Joe_the_Gardener (U3478064) on Sunday, 13th December 2009
And where does it come from?
no-one cares.
Pukka is technically, 1st class. However the word has formed from cooking and ripening, Hindi pakk - cooked/ripe, from Sanskrit pakva and from pacati - he cooks.
Which would explain why Jamie Oliver used it all the time. What we need is a gardening equivalent. Anyone speak Hindi?
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Posted by Joe_the_Gardener (U3478064) on Monday, 14th December 2009
darren,
Perhaps people who say 'chomping at the bit' don't care where it comes from, so don't get upset about it!
Joe
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Posted by Summerchild (U14187397) on Wednesday, 16th December 2009
Don't know whether I am glad I missed it or not.
Love history, love information but do not like "infortainment", which is neither fish nor fowl and is condescending.
However do like the Victorian Farm series. Maybe because the people obviously love what they are doing.
Did GW get it right or not? I shall have to view after all.
S
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Posted by Summerchild (U14187397) on Wednesday, 16th December 2009
Forgot that 12th has already gone, Oops.
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