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Message 1.听
Posted by Barneydoggie (U14479209) on Monday, 24th May 2010
Most of your coverage of the Chelsea Flower Show is very entertaining, educational, and pleasurable viewing, with experts who give their slant on the designer gardens, plants etc.
But why oh why do you employ Nicki Chapman to 'commentate' and present on the lunchtime show ?
She has not garden expertise, or professional or amateur knowledge, speaks loudly and slowly for perhaps those viewers on a lunchtime who are of a certain age with hearing and understanding limitation.
I tuned in for today's show, as I do not have the usual weekend days off work, and was most disappointed with her presentation of the show.
Where are Carol Klein, Pippa Greenwood et al, people who are knowledgeable on this subject to present, entertain, inspire us with gardening.
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Message 2
Posted by northwards (U14324094) on Monday, 24th May 2010
Oh how I agree with Barneydoggie! Where on earth does the 主播大秀 find them? She is totally ignorant of plants (anybody have any idea what an "erygnium" is?? And her nasal voice is terminally irritating (although I suppose the poor girl can't help that).
I suppose she was chosen because there were no other women on the team, but as BD says there are lots of experienced women out there who would be far better choicesLink to this forum: 主播大秀 Chelsea Flower Show Coverage Presenters
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Message 3
Posted by GraciePetunia (U14181526) on Monday, 24th May 2010
I also agree with the above comments, I am recording the series and found that I had to fast- forward her, she was annoying.
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Message 4
Posted by Obelixx (U2157162) on Monday, 24th May 2010
Regulars on here say the same thing every year. I'm surprised none of you has mentioned the lame floristry attempts either.
You'd think, as a professional presenter, she'd have the wit to mug up on plants and gardening and flower arranging between Chelseas. Failing that, please Bee, get a real gardener to present Chelsea coverage.
I have to say I was very pleased to see James Alexander-Sinclair and Chris Beardshaw presenting and am looking forward to more, more, more.Link to this forum: 主播大秀 Chelsea Flower Show Coverage Presenters
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Message 5
Posted by garrigillgal (U14258845) on Monday, 24th May 2010
I have to agree with all the above - she's just not credible and there are plenty of other female presenters (who we don't see on TV currently) who could do a better job - probably because they are passionate about plants.....
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Message 6
Posted by Colin (U2252951) on Monday, 24th May 2010
I see Christine Walkden managed to get in on the act, yet no Rachel de Thame. Madness!
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Message 7
Posted by the cycling gardener (U2350416) on Tuesday, 25th May 2010
Over time I've got the impression Rachel de Thame is to men what Matthew Wilson is to women on this board.
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Message 8
Posted by welshcol (U2301689) on Tuesday, 25th May 2010
I think the females may disagree
my impression is Mathew Wilson is always a runner up to Chris Beardshaw-does not make any sense to me since they are both quite good gardeners 
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Message 9
Posted by margaretstar (U14415248) on Tuesday, 25th May 2010
I am a female and prefer rachel to Christine although I respect chriatines knowledge and approach to gardening. I find Chris Beardshaw falsely effusive, unlike Alan Titchmarsh who seems to pull effusiveness off. Note I'm only referring to the male's presenting qualities, not gardening skills.Link to this forum: 主播大秀 Chelsea Flower Show Coverage Presenters
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Message 10
Posted by Obelixx (U2157162) on Tuesday, 25th May 2010
I prefer Rachel to Christine too as a presenter though I realise Christine probably has far greater knowledge and experience. I just can't get images of her from that dreadful series out of my head. You know, always stuffing something in her mouth and going choo choo round her garden.
As for AT, he always makes anything seem possible and feasible. Chris Beardshaw has a way of making you look at a plant or scheme from another angle. Matthew Wilson is excellent on Landscape Man and has done some interesting slots on GW in the past.
I'm afraid I don't rate Joe as a presenter or a designer on GW although he's usually good at Chelsea. I can't take Toby serioulsy after watching him be so disrspectful of his viewers and the plants all last year. GW is much improved this year but he and Joe have a lot to live down.Link to this forum: 主播大秀 Chelsea Flower Show Coverage Presenters
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Message 11
Posted by welshcol (U2301689) on Wednesday, 26th May 2010
I am still getting the general and continuing impression with the presenters that its more "me" rather than the show and the real people ie designers, growers etc. I would prefer to see less post mortem and slick presenter discussion and quips about esoteric gardening design criteria and more about the show, plants and the gardens themselves. Love Raymond Blanc but the time spent with his walk about and interview last night would be far better spent IMHO on some more show gardens, half of which we have not seen yet, and a bit more discussion with the REAL show people.
Show some plants & gardens, with good camera work, subtitle the names with a talk over where essential and scrub the rest.
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Message 12
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Message 13
Posted by Obelixx (U2157162) on Wednesday, 26th May 2010
Yes Welshcol. Raymond Blanc and his garden deserve a complete show or even regular visits during the GW gardening year for how to run a productive plot and which varities taste best.
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Posted by nanpickle (U14258493) on Wednesday, 26th May 2010
Well I thought I'd give Nicky the benefit of the doubt for a couple of days to give her a fair chance, but I have to admit that her knowledge of anything horticultural seems absolutely minimal. Today she was handing the floral arranger some alchimela mollis, he told her the name of the plant and yet 10 minutes later she picked up the same plant and asked what it was again. I am no expert, but she really doesn't seem to have a clue. She may well be an excellent presenter on other shows, but I am sure there is no way she should be presenting Chelsea !! We don't have to have an expert (althought their knowledge would be useful) but PLEASE GIVE US A GARDENER !!!!!! Nan x
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Message 15
Posted by welshcol (U2301689) on Wednesday, 26th May 2010
Raymond Blanc and his garden deserve a complete show or even regular visits during the GW gardening year for how to run a productive plot and which varieties taste best.听
Totally agree, he and his head gardener are totally committed and good communicators which I am sure would make a great programme or mini series. I like you cannot understand why they do it now as a distraction to Chelsea -
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Posted by garrigillgal (U14258845) on Wednesday, 26th May 2010
Hi Welshcol,
I like you cannot understand why they do it now as a distraction to Chelsea 听
I agree with you, it seems as if the producers are afraid just to let the show speak for itself - as if they feel that our attention span is so minuscule that we need constant extra stimulation in the form of these vignettes - (and the awful Christine - experienced tho' she is) - sorry
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Message 17
Posted by welshcol (U2301689) on Wednesday, 26th May 2010
.. until you said the "awful Christine" 
or St Christine as her loyal and faithful followers know her as 
, but I think you have to admit she sticks to the plants except when forced to engage in some banal conversation about the AT carnation and for him to reminisce, again, about his dis-budding mistake. People go to Chelsea for a full day and still do not see it all so why do the 主播大秀 insist on trolling through & deviating to any other subject/topics/people however loosely connected to the Show lets see the SHOW itself!!!.
I forgive you you will see the light one day about St.C. I am writing this while they are waffling AGAIN about Chelsea rather allowing us to see it. 
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Posted by garrigillgal (U14258845) on Wednesday, 26th May 2010
Welshcol,
smack my naughty hand - don't know what came over me...... - maybe she reminds me of me!!!! -
Message 19
Posted by topcat38 (U14474191) on Wednesday, 26th May 2010
It鈥檚 not only some of the presenters that need to be changed; it is also the time of the year that the show is staged that is all wrong. The flowers are either force grown to bloom early or held back from flowering to bloom in the 3rd week in May. The CFS should be held later in the year when the majority of the displays of flowers and veggies are blooming at the time nature intended.
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Message 20
Posted by David K (U14115317) on Wednesday, 26th May 2010
Oh dear! Just seen some photos taken by Mary McCartney for the 主播大秀 at Chelsea Flower Show.
So your dad is Paul McCartney & your mum was a professional photographer...so who will dare tell you they were rubbish. -
Message 21
Posted by poshHebeJeebie (U9319867) on Wednesday, 26th May 2010
Agreed. And the music wasn't much cop, either!
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Message 22
Posted by Trillium (U2170869) on Wednesday, 26th May 2010
I was at Chelsea on Tuesday and saw much to enjoy and inspire.
But I really can't fathom why the show commands so much airtime on the 主播大秀, sometimes spilling from 主播大秀1 to BB2 for almost continuous coverage. Feels to me like every possible angle of every possible story is explored to the hilt and beyond. No wonder Chelsea sells out, with such massive free publicity every year.
I'd swap some of the coverage of Chelsea and more coverage of the other RHS shows and horticultural events around the country, and of course more gardening generally. Am I in a clear minority here? -
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Posted by welshcol (U2301689) on Wednesday, 26th May 2010
I was at Chelsea on Tuesday and saw much to enjoy and inspire....听
Hi Trillium-a number of people on the board, including me, think we are being short-changed and are bemoaning the fact that the 主播大秀 appears to give a poor reflection of the content and extent of the show itself. For someone whose been whats your thoughts on the matter? -
Message 24
Posted by Paul N (U6451125) on Thursday, 27th May 2010
Is it me (and it probably is) but I have difficulty stomaching some of the psycho-babble we get from garden designers. "If you take this path through life, you go this way and if you take the rough path...." sort of thing. I'm sure I'm just being symplistic but I think a garden either looks attractive or not. I think all the psycho-babble is just guff. I've just seen lots of really lovely gardens and didn't need the 'whys and the wherefores'.
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Message 25
Posted by Tigger76 (U6762134) on Thursday, 27th May 2010
Bring back Lila! She was great last year and is nowhere to be seen now, except on her blog.
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Message 26
Posted by David K (U14115317) on Thursday, 27th May 2010
But I really can't fathom why the show commands so much airtime on the 主播大秀, sometimes spilling from 主播大秀1 to BB2 for almost continuous coverage.听
But surely this is what they do all the time, be it snooker, golf, tennis, or whatever.
I love gardening, but can't relate to Chelsea and can't stand to watch more than a few minutes on TV. -
Message 27
Posted by tulipmania (U3090145) on Thursday, 27th May 2010
Hi Trillium & everyone,
Having visited the show for the past 3 years, but not this year, I'm really enjoying the TV coverage. The coverage is enabling me to see far more detail than a full day at show ever did, where, at a certain point in the day, 'not being to see the wood for the trees' comes into play - or has that got something to do with the Pimms's? Ha,ha!
As far as presenters are concerned I think they are all doing a great job and, as I mentioned last year, gardeners with talents to broadcast just have to be applauded.
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Message 28
Posted by darren p (U8518743) on Thursday, 27th May 2010
apart from the chelsea coverage- there is NOTHING OF MERRITT ON 主播大秀1 OR 2 DURING WORKING HOURS. the bbc excell at coverage of events and documentaries, the rest is trash, utter rubbish. more chelsea coverage please and hampton court a little later.
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Message 29
Posted by happytobyfan (U13663471) on Thursday, 27th May 2010
I'd swap some of the coverage of Chelsea and more coverage of the other RHS shows and horticultural events around the country, and of course more gardening generally. Am I in a clear minority here?听
Well Trillium, you may be in the minority - but I certainly agree with you. I watch every programme on it - but just because it is the only gardening on TV (apart from Beechgrove, and as that's become app 90% fruit and veg, I fast-forward through most of that).
Your views may put you in the minority, but I'll go further than you (and I doubt anyone at all will agree with me) but, I actually went to Chelsea last year - something I'd looked forward to seeing for a long time. Having seen and heard all the hype, over the years, myself and my friend, were actually disappointed. We go to Tatton Park every year (as that's our 'local' but we've been to all the others and I've enjoyed all of them much more than Chelsea. From watching the programmes over the years, I had the impression it was much larger than it was. We were also very disappointed to find that we couldn't even buy any plants - a big part of any Garden Show for my friend and myself. My husband bought the Chelasea tickets last year, as a surprise, but if I had the chance of going to that again, or Hampton Court - Hampton Court would win hands down (as well as Tatton of course).
I also fully agree with Paul N about the psycho-babble we get from garden designers. Whilst I understand that what appeals to some people doesn't appeal to others, I just want to SEE them - I'm not interested in what each path/rock/plant, etc represents.
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Posted by Hyperstar (U14171941) on Thursday, 27th May 2010
Maybe a solution is to show half a hour of nice gardens on 主播大秀4 with only relaxing music
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Message 31
Posted by Trillium (U2170869) on Thursday, 27th May 2010
Hi Welshcol and all,
Compared to the impression given on the coverage, Chelsea is surprisingly small. The TV coverage more than does it justice - in fact I would say there is nothing about Chelsea that isn't mentioned - including the back and side stories of almost every single garden. The main show gardens are very big and mostly only viewed from two sides by visitors. Even on members' days you can't just stroll up to a garden and amble round it - you have to wait to get a spot at the rope and then move when you can. Rather like cricket, you see more of the details on the TV.
I might be wrong, but I think the number of stands in the floral marquee (sorry, Grand Pavilion) is about the same as Malvern, though many of the displays are much bigger. It took me some time this year to find plants of interest to me (hardy perennials and shrubs) which I hadn't seen before. And of course you can't buy, which is a real negative.
I look for real wow factor at Chelsea and this year for me it was the Leeds canal show garden. The sheer ambition and scale of the project was simply breathtaking. Many of the other show gardens for me simply echoed familiar styles - black pergolas, lines of Jacquemontii, sleek grey slab paving etc.
What struck me about Andy Sturgeon's garden was that the more you looked at it, the more I could see how the use of colour was what really nailed it as best in show. The obvious combination was the rusty iron structures and the coppery irises, but more subtly the side wall was painted a dark minky brown colour and this seemed to pick up hues all over the place - the centres of the Verbascums, the Pennisetum heads, the stems of a strange Mediterranean shrub. It had all these warm tones and then to cut through it with highlights of silver and lemon of the Verbascum was just superb. A master colourist at work.
The show is overall less enjoyable than Hampton Court or Tatton for 'ornery folk because it's simply much smaller and much more crowded - you can't walk in a straight line for 30 seconds without veering round or bumping into someone. But Chelsea is a big networking event for the horticultural world - I always meet someone I wouldn't otherwise have done who turns out to be a good contact for something or other.
Re the coverage, yes, thinking back to a couple of weeks ago when the snooker was on every night... Still, I think Chelsea gets far more than it's fair share. It's not ten times better than the other shows, but gets at least 10 times more airtime. -
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Posted by laura (U14483885) on Thursday, 27th May 2010
I'm afraid the 'Pippa Greenwood' types would be far too expensive for the 主播大秀. Nicki is very pleasing to the eye and there is more to her than you realise. She was brilliant in a celeb showjumping competition a while back. For someone who couldn't ride she did really well. Anyway you don't need to be a garden expert to front a show.
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Message 33
Posted by welshcol (U2301689) on Friday, 28th May 2010
Compared to the impression given on the coverage, Chelsea is surprisingly small. The TV coverage more than does it justice - in fact I would say there is nothing about Chelsea that isn't mentioned..... 听
Thank you very much for that Trillium, very informative and useful in as much that I do not feel quite so aggrieved now by the coverage. Previously I kept on wanting to say "cut the chat and painful/poor repartee" and get back to the show, but from what you are saying they are not doing a bad job so am a lot more contented although less attracted perhaps to plan a trip to Chelea some day . Still think there could be some more in-depth pictures with out losing interest or getting boring but there we go. Thank you again. -
Message 34
Posted by Amazing (U7102651) on Friday, 28th May 2010
Hi Welshcol how's you? I'm good. Haven't seen BG this week yet was it good?
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Message 35
Posted by Paul N (U6451125) on Friday, 28th May 2010
Talking about 'psycho-babble', OK two of us are, I watched Andy Stugeon interview a utterly dull monotone garden designer last night pontificating on his creation and I swear Andy almost nodded off
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Message 36
Posted by Obelixx (U2157162) on Friday, 28th May 2010
Nikki is there because she's a pretty face designed to attract non gardening viewers with low gardening critical faculties. If the Beeb can afford to have the likes of Chris Beardshaw and James A-S doing special features and background coverage for digital viewers they could certainly afford the likes of Pippa Greenwood as an informed and informative presenter but she is deemed not to have "screen appeal".
I do think the Beeb tends to concentrate too much on some gardens at the expense of others and they ignore a vast number of growers in the floral marquee which has to be the biggest display of horticultural excellence in the world and full of interesting subject matter for countles programmes.
One has to wonder then why the Beeb repeats itself so often through the week and feels the need to go offsite for stories. -
Message 37
Posted by nanpickle (U14258493) on Friday, 28th May 2010
Personally I think Pippa has far more screen appeal than Nikki - I do accept that Nikki may be a very good presenter, but I'd much rather have Pippa for a Gardening Show !! Nan x
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Message 38
Posted by Ariadne Knickerbocker (U4534559) on Friday, 28th May 2010
What a shame that Wesley Kerr wasn't there this year. There were various swimming pools he could have plunged into as per usual - better him than some of the bikini clad models that were bobbing around in them on press day.
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Message 39
Posted by welshcol (U2301689) on Friday, 28th May 2010
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Hi Welshcol how's you? I'm good. Haven't seen BG this week yet was it good?
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Hi I thought you were on one of your round the World cruises again!! .. since had not seen you on the BG board especially for "reminders". Now I hope I have not missed an episode this week since the "magic black box" did not come in with a reminder so assumed it was not on since Chelsea was monopolising the 主播大秀 garden allowance and they know we can so easily overdose on gardening progs..
I am still feeling so sorry for Jim et al after the hard Winter and cold Spring you have had up there. Will have to send him a hot toddy to cheer him up. -
Message 40
Posted by happytobyfan (U13663471) on Friday, 28th May 2010
do think the Beeb tends to concentrate too much on some gardens at the expense of others and they ignore a vast number of growers in the floral marquee听
Being more of a 'plant person' than a 'gardener' -although I do now spend every available moment in the garden - I would have loved them to have spent more time in the Floral Marquee (or whatever fancy name it has now). They showed quite a lot of beautiful plants and flowers last night - but despite keep re-winding the recording, I have no idea what many of them were, so that was somewhat wasted.
One has to wonder then why the Beeb repeats itself so often through the week听
I agree. I've seen some of the gardens so often this week, I fell like I know them better than I know my own. -
Message 41
Posted by marinelilium (U8293024) on Friday, 28th May 2010
Well, I have enjoyed every morsel of the Chelsea Show gardening feast. Things to sate my personal taste, things I just might try then grow to relish and strange things that others crave that I find puzzling but, nonetheless, fascinating.
Gardens and flowers means so many different things to so many people; the 主播大秀 has done a great job in presenting the flavour of the show with something for everyone and without subjecting us to crass advertising. IMHO
Even though I gorged on the Red Button and iPlayer I鈥檓 ashamed to admit that I am greedy for gardening TV so...
鈥淧lease sir, may I have some more?鈥
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Message 42
Posted by dannyson (U7870976) on Friday, 28th May 2010
Just got back from Chelsea!! - favourite garden - the smaller oriental garden with a white pebble pool- awesome! (but keeping those pebbles white would be a non starter - 'organically" I would have thought)
Second favourite - the one with the unusual tree ferns - amazing ferns - wish I could have one!!
Third - Andy Sturgeons 'best in show'. Never been to Chelsea before (but plenty of others) - amazing and very weary on the feet/back - especially having to 'shimmy' in to the ropes ....but well worth it!! -
Message 43
Posted by Paul N (U6451125) on Saturday, 29th May 2010
I really enjoyed almost all of what appeared on 主播大秀 TV. Judging by the posts her about 3/4 of us liked it and a 1/4 didn't. I guess that's life? Three out of four is pretty good going
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Message 44
Posted by hdehoon (U2175617) on Saturday, 29th May 2010
I really enjoyed the tv coverage of Chelsea this year; so relaxed and not pretentious. Alan was even cheeky at times! I also liked Nicky. She isn麓t a garden expert: so what? She just presents a programm and looks at the plants and gardens like any other average visitor would do.
I didn麓t like the army helicopter at first; it seemed to much of a political statement to me (after all these european military interventions abroad are controversial),but after the people who made the garden explained what their intention was, I kind of understood and valued it. -
Message 45
Posted by ArtemisH (U14261033) on Monday, 7th June 2010
I was away during most of the Chelsea period and I have just finished watching some of the programmes we recorded.
After watching Joe sitting down as if he had soiled himself, with resultant chafing making it impossible for him to sit with his legs together, AT wearing me out with hard effort to focus either on the eye looking at me or the one looking into the distance - but not both at the same time( not his fault, I know), the hatted and thickly bespectacled Sinclair, the incomprehensible (to me) Christine, it was a RELIEF to watch the pretty non-gardener Nicky.
I gave up on CB last year when I heard him making derisory comments about the "ignorant public" who didn't know how to pronounce the "Latin"(!!) names of plants. And that only days after I'd seen him on tv giving the "Latin" name of a plant as Xerophyllum!
Of course, neither component of this compound word is Latin, but the chap has an obsession with appearing learned.
So, with the knowlegeable Carol and "ordinary" Nicky, who desires anything more?
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Message 46
Posted by Dolly16 (U14154996) on Wednesday, 9th June 2010
I went to Chelsea for the 2nd time this year. I really enjoyed it, and would recomend it to anyone. Last year my sister, who is Not A Gardener, came with me, and she had a great time too. The show gardens, large and small are so impressive, and a great many of the stands are too. Not being able to buy plants wasn't a big issue for someone getting on a train back up to Scotland, but there were plenty of opportunities to part with your cash!
I enjoy the TV coverage as well, and would be happy to watch hours of it, there isn't enough gardening on the telly, as far as I'm concerned! As for lovely Nicki who won me over in the showjumping program, yes she's not a gardener, and no, I don't know why the BBc decided that the lunch show didn't need one, but it doesn't stop me from enjoying the program.Link to this forum: 主播大秀 Chelsea Flower Show Coverage Presenters
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Message 47
Posted by Ariadne Knickerbocker (U4534559) on Wednesday, 9th June 2010
If you want to see Chelsea coverage done properly these people provide a masterclass
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Message 48
Posted by PenylanSue (U13901201) on Wednesday, 9th June 2010
Watched two and really enjoyed them but haven't the time to watch any more.
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