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Message 1.Â
Posted by drwalter (U1365507) on Saturday, 18th September 2010
aLAN Titchmarsh talks to HRH Prince Charles - TV show - shown on THURSDAY 23 September at 20:00 on Ö÷²¥´óÐã 2.
Welcome back, Alan, to the Ö÷²¥´óÐã. Fancy doing GARDENERS' WORLD again for a year or two?Link to this forum: Titchmarsh talks to HRH Prince Charles - TV show
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Posted by welshcol (U2301689) on Saturday, 18th September 2010
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Message 3
Posted by Barny (U13453961) on Tuesday, 21st September 2010
Thanks Dr Who,
I do so look forward to hearing the latest CodsWallop from Chuck.Link to this forum: Titchmarsh talks to HRH Prince Charles - TV show
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Message 4
Posted by pjgolf (U2469936) on Tuesday, 21st September 2010
Well Barmy,
I thought "Chuck" championed organic gardening.
It seems to work very well. Not codswallop at all I think !Link to this forum: Titchmarsh talks to HRH Prince Charles - TV show
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Message 5
Posted by Barny (U13453961) on Tuesday, 21st September 2010
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Message 6
Posted by theweeshep (U13961168) on Wednesday, 22nd September 2010
budiansky.blogspot.c...
^^Utter codswallop spoken on that link for sure. Misses many points entirely, gives false information about others and is blatantly one-sided, purposely missing the point of local or home grown produce. Most of the replies to the posting seem to agree that the article is misleading and incorrect in content - even those that agree with it's sentiment.
I'll go with the people who said they buy local "where possible". A most sensible and rational approach.
I can't believe the NY Times would print such rubbish. Oh, then again.....Link to this forum: Titchmarsh talks to HRH Prince Charles - TV show
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Message 7
Posted by the cycling gardener (U2350416) on Wednesday, 22nd September 2010
My daughter flagged up this interview that AT did on This Morning today. He gives an interesting insight into the programme but you have to put up with a couple of ads at the beginning. Schofield questions him about his comments regarding GW. His thoughts are on the money as far as most of us here are concerned:
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Message 8
Posted by Colin (U2252951) on Thursday, 23rd September 2010
Blimey, what a bore!
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Message 9
Posted by Paul N (U6451125) on Friday, 24th September 2010
That's no way to speak about the Cycling Gardener.
However if you are refering to the Titchmarsh/Prince Charles film, my wife and I loved it. A throughly beautiful garden and a very modest Prince, once thought of as a crank but now accepted as before his time in terms of 'greenness'.
A beautifully filmed hour of pleasure for us and as ever, really pleasing to see AT on our screens.Link to this forum: Titchmarsh talks to HRH Prince Charles - TV show
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Message 10
Posted by Palaisglide (U3102587) on Friday, 24th September 2010
Paul and Cycling Gardener,
Could not agree more, a delightful garden an easy interview technique and a lot of common sense from HH.
Now if I am bored with anything I do not watch or read or comment what is the point, you will never change some one else's mind on their concept of things.
I loved the head gardener telling AT how to make compost and was interested in the reed bed garden having seen that many years ago at ICI so I know it works.
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Message 11
Posted by Pete-Free (U7363826) on Friday, 24th September 2010
Thanks for highlighting this Welshcol and Dr Who.
I'd been looking forward to it all week and was not disappointed. Arguably the most enjoyable gardening programme of the decade. HRH came over as a very sensitive, knowledgeable and practical gardener. AT interviewed him well. The head gardener, Debbs Goodenough was most impressive as well as charming.
Great to see input from the Bannermans and Molly Salisbury, also an expert in her field and creator of much of the wondrous gardens at Hatfield House.
I was lucky enough to visit Highgrove a few Septembers ago. It was the nearest place to Heaven on earth I've yet found. It delights the eye and soul and is deeply spiritual. The Stumpery was magical.
More of such inspirational gardening programmes please Ö÷²¥´óÐã and certainly a repeat would be welcome in the Christmas schedules! Thank you.
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Message 12
Posted by PenylanSue (U13901201) on Friday, 24th September 2010
Paul, Frank and Pete, I do so agree with you about the programme. Delightful. I too visited Highgrove a couple of years ago and it was lovley to see it again on the screen.
Someone once described it as 'all pots' but what does a Prince do when he's given so many as gifts. He can't discard them. The pots were not overly in evidence in the film and I seem to remember the Thyme Walk looks better in real life.
Pete's description of the place is spot-on.
I would love to visit again.
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Message 13
Posted by Satin (U14303179) on Friday, 24th September 2010
I really enjoyed the programme last night. The Prince has such a lovely garden and is clearly a wonderful natural gardener. Made such a change to see Hostas without any holes! yet no chemicals used. Just goes to show that we should garden more naturally and it does work. I sometimes use a chemical liquid feed in my garden but no other chemicals as I have a cat and don't want her eating harmful chemicals. Just recently a hedgehog has been visiting so there are a lot less slugs.
It was lovely to see a garden with lots of colour and flowers. You can never have too many flowers or colours in my opinion.
Alan is a wonderful presenter and the programme therefore flowed really well. I wasn't that keen on the music as prefer more tradional classical music but the Prince seemed to like the piece he comissioned which is the main thing.Link to this forum: Titchmarsh talks to HRH Prince Charles - TV show
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Message 14
Posted by Barny (U13453961) on Friday, 24th September 2010
@HI Satin
He's got 16 full-time gardeners at Highgrove,My Ducks!!
That's enough to pick all the slugs off a Field Full of Funkias by hand!
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Message 15
Posted by greeneddy (U6603838) on Friday, 24th September 2010
As in "we are all carbon-based lifeforms", Barny?
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Message 16
Posted by Barny (U13453961) on Friday, 24th September 2010
I'm just puzzled that,for one example, folk are quite happy to smear "neat" triazole fungicide (Canesten cream and suchlike) inside their babies cheeks,on their own private parts,on their pets and live stock and then worry when it is applied to cereals in dilutions of parts per million. It seems to me that when (some?) medicines are given to plants then superstition kicks in!
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Message 17
Posted by greeneddy (U6603838) on Friday, 24th September 2010
Good grief, funny where threads can lead - one minute we're talking about HRH and his garden, the next it's "smearing one's private parts"!
Sorry, Barny, I've been on the boards too long to get into another of those "chemicals v organic" arguments.
I missed the Highgrove programme, but will watch it on i-player. The Guardian's TV reviewer, Sam Wollaston, really disliked AT's reverential tone; the review referred to "the sycophant in the room"!Link to this forum: Titchmarsh talks to HRH Prince Charles - TV show
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Message 18
Posted by Barny (U13453961) on Friday, 24th September 2010
He's a Tyke, my Duckie.
They're not daft,tha' knaa's.
They know which side of their bread is buttered (and jammed in his case).What does the Grauniad expect Titch to say -We need ammonium & superphosphate fertilisers in order to feed the world,the agricultural and horticultural potential of GM is very great and the UK is sadly getting well behind in this technology in part owing to HRH pratting on about Frankenfoods and suchlike ignorant, scaremongering rubbish, and of course homeopathy is codswallop,etc.etc.
It was never going to happen.Link to this forum: Titchmarsh talks to HRH Prince Charles - TV show
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Message 19
Posted by Lowena (U14575314) on Friday, 24th September 2010
Very licky and sycophantic style of interviewing by AT ( expecting Knighthood in the future methinks).
Thought we'd stumbled back into the years of serfdom.
Loads of money
Loads of staff
Loads of manure
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Message 20
Posted by Palaisglide (U3102587) on Friday, 24th September 2010
Very licky and sycophantic style of interviewing by AT ( expecting Knighthood in the future methinks).
Thought we'd stumbled back into the years of serfdom.Â
"In your view Lowena" and you are entitled to those views if that is what you think.
Others of us have watched Alan over many years and would say his style and manner have never changed no matter to whom he is talking.
He brings out the relevant points in an interview, the main one being HH was way ahead of his time.
He knew he was being held up as a laughing stock by certain elements of the media who probably need a run through his reed bed to clean them up a bit.
If on the other hand you are just commenting on his privileged position, well I for one would much rather be who I am than him. At least we can do our own thing and not be important enough in the media eye's to be ridiculed.
"Oh" and I along with many gardeners of my knowledge also find ourselves talking to the plants at times, maybe we are a bit off, must be all that manure filled compost we handle.
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Message 21
Posted by greeneddy (U6603838) on Friday, 24th September 2010
Well given that I'm a tyke, an organic gardener, and my brother's a homoeopath, it's a given that Barney and I are going to have to agree to disagree
I enjoyed the programme, the garden looks beautiful, and it made me want to go and visit. Yep, it's had lots of money thrown at it; a gardener for each of the "rums" (Alan, your Yorkshire accent's disappearing!), but as was said many times (too many?), HRH was one of the pioneers of organic gardening, and in his position, I can think of worse things to do with money than create a showcase organic garden.
Just don't get me going on the institution of the monarchy. Personally, I'd have thought that Charles (poor thing, no-one's allowed to call him by his name!) may have been much happier if he'd renounced the whole straightjacketed nonsense of it, and become a garden designer.Link to this forum: Titchmarsh talks to HRH Prince Charles - TV show
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Message 22
Posted by the cycling gardener (U2350416) on Friday, 24th September 2010
Yes, I felt a tad sorry for HRH. When most of us lighten our workload and have more time to spend on enjoyable pursuits, in the natural course of events he will have to step up to the plate and lose more and more of his spare time.
Regarding the Hostas. I reckon they were in good nick because the foliage would have been pretty young in May. I went to Highgrove a couple of years ago in September and have to report that the Hostas were torn to shreds. Removing slugs and snails from them was clearly not in the remit of any of the 16 gardeners. Like so many visitors I expected a garden in pristine condition with manicured lawns and hedges topiarised within an inch of their life in the style of National Trust gardens or some of those of our grand stately homes. Instead, some of the plants were distinctly ropey. I loved those holey Hostas and that the garden had a well worn amateurishness to it, designed to please its owner and not the wider gardening cognoscenti. This wasn’t a garden that was trying to be stylised or clever but appeared to be a mishmash of quirky ideas without any grand plan, one idea plonked next to another with a hedge to separate the two. I was particularly surprised by the traffic noise from the main road to Tetbury alongside the woodland area and where it transpires HRH likes to retreat to be alone. It’s refreshing that even the heir to the throne with all his money and priviledge cannot escape noise pollution. During the garden tour I was amused to learn that Sting presented HRH with thousands of Fritillaria meleagris for his meadow, all of which failed, I imagine because the meadow is pretty dry. I make mistakes in my small garden but I guess when you've got a vast acreage mistakes can be monumental. There's hope for me yet! Vitis coignetiae climbing up the front of the house was a bold and surprising decision considering the supporting architecture. Why be boring and have Wisteria?
Regarding homeopathy; I’ve used it for 20 years for all low grade illnesses and haven’t taken antibiotics in all that time. I go to the doctor, find out what’s wrong, get a prescription just in case then call my homeopath who supplies a remedy. I don’t have a clue how it works, it doesn’t stand up to scientific scrutiny but it does the job for me.
I really enjoyed the programme and agree that its one of the best gardening programmes we've seen for years. AT was a bit awe struck but I can't imagine anyone else doing a better job.Link to this forum: Titchmarsh talks to HRH Prince Charles - TV show
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Message 23
Posted by welshcol (U2301689) on Saturday, 25th September 2010
I think the sincerity and total belief that Prince Charles has in his garden is obvious-don't we all have that in our own way for our more modest patches?
. However that "tree stumpery" garden is to me a real eyesore and there must only be a select few who either totally appreciate it or like it. Admire the recycling and environmental appeal but as a garden in its own right - not for me.
Easy watchable programme some obvious editing jolts 
which were avoidable but could hardly ask HRH for a "retake" and a bit too fawny by AT but like above could not think of anyone better except perhaps for Roy Lancaster who may have brought the programme "down to earth" Link to this forum: Titchmarsh talks to HRH Prince Charles - TV show
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Message 24
Posted by germinator (U13411914) on Saturday, 25th September 2010
When Tearlach met the Titchmarsh Tyke
When Tearlach met the Titchmarsh Tyke,
They promenaded on a Highgrove hike,
"Ah see how you do, and where and when,
but can you tell me why?"
"Ground, common or royal, the answer's in the soil,
But I need to diversify."
"Ay-Oop", then said the Pebble Mill host,
A man for on the main chance,
"Ah started at bottom, and though Ah don't like to boast,
"Ah now stretch to music and dance."Link to this forum: Titchmarsh talks to HRH Prince Charles - TV show
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Message 25
Posted by jauntycyclist (U14199772) on Monday, 27th September 2010
alan comes across as 'wittering' imo. would hate to get stuck in a lift with him.
not really a role gaming monarchist myself. In one village i lived in everyone still knew which end of the village and which families had been roundheads and which were the monarchists. Never forgive or forget was their motto
its probably time for the Norman occupation and its monarchy model to end. The national oath should be about defending the rights of all the people not the privileges of one family.Link to this forum: Titchmarsh talks to HRH Prince Charles - TV show
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Message 26
Posted by Barny (U13453961) on Monday, 27th September 2010
StrooLL on!
And I thought this was a Gardening Forum My DuckyBoos!Link to this forum: Titchmarsh talks to HRH Prince Charles - TV show
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Message 27
Posted by Palaisglide (U3102587) on Monday, 27th September 2010
its probably time for the Norman occupation and its monarchy model to end. The national oath should be about defending the rights of all the people not the privileges of one family.Â
In your opinion Jauntycyclist and the rights of all people to say so it seems.
Obviously never travelled in some of the free world where you can be whipped off the street and vanish for a myriad of reasons some of them religious it would not happen here.
If it is jealousy then think would you like the life they lead, I would not.
If it is a presidency you ask for then think of the cost of that from our pockets as against our Queen. I know which I prefer cost wise.
Of course if you are trying to stir things up then sorry those days are over.
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Message 28
Posted by Trillium (U2170869) on Monday, 27th September 2010
In these days of budget cuts and benefit reductions for the 'undeserving poor', I'm afraid I cannot relax and enjoy the sight of the privileges still made available to the undeserving rich. Undeserving because he is where he is by birth.
Of course, he could have been a much less good man and there is much to laud in what he has done with his life, but nonetheless, I find my enjoyment curtailed by the advantages of his unearned position.
Some consider me fortunate for where we live and what we now have, but at least I have the satisfaction of knowing I left home with nothing except the saved proceeds of my Saturday jobs.Link to this forum: Titchmarsh talks to HRH Prince Charles - TV show
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Message 29
Posted by Bluedoyenne (U2341157) on Monday, 27th September 2010
Like you, Trillium, the injustice of inherited wealth/linked privileges is a subject that makes me sore. That said, I'd bet that if Charles could have changed places with you at birth, he'd have jumped at the chance. When I reflect a little on what his life has been like until now, and what it will become in the future.... Would any amount of money be worth it? In my view not.
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Message 30
Posted by the cycling gardener (U2350416) on Monday, 27th September 2010
Strikes me life is unjust from the moment of conception. We are all the result of our inherited gene pool. Some of us may not have been born with the priviledge of inherited wealth or powerful connections but are 'priviledged' to have inherited good minds and strong healthy bodies and are surrounded by loving friends and families that give us a better chance of navigating our way successfully through our human existance and society than others. Thankfuly Charles hasn't used his wealth and priviledge to inflict pain and misery on others (unlike his forebears). Priviledge of birth can be judged in many different ways. Are we suggesting that anyone born with any head start in life should be judged a lesser human being and unworthy of a place in society? A friend of mine is fond of the line "life's a bitch and then we die". Unfortunately there is some truth in this.
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Message 31
Posted by Palaisglide (U3102587) on Monday, 27th September 2010
All things are relative as in compared one with another, or so I was taught at school.
I was privileged to be born into a household in business, with a good sized house, walled garden and a father a very keen gardener.
The result being on passing the eleven plus exam I went on to secondary school where as a lot of those kids who passed did not.
My parents could afford to dress me in the required uniform and buy all the other gear I needed.
I of course knew nothing of this as at that age all things are normality, it is what happens. I did wonder why some of my old school pals were working long hours at twelve-thirteen and too late or too tired to play cricket on the village green any more.
We went on and like you Trillium against the wishes of my parents joined the army with nothing and never looked back.
My point being by the time we realise it was privilege to have a warm bed, food in your belly and a decent education. As against going to school hungry, sand-shoes with no soles in winter, then having to leave at twelve thirteen even though the leaving age was supposedly fourteen so they could earn a few penny's to feed the family, we could not alter anything.
Privilege is in the eye of the beholder and in my case envy for those with a better start in life than me is not an issue, I have what I have earned and that is satisfaction enough.
If they ever get rid of the top echelon then something else just as costly to the working man will fill its place, leave well alone is an old infantry saying then it cannot harm you.
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Message 32
Posted by Colin (U2252951) on Monday, 27th September 2010
They should sell Highgrove No.2 Potting compost, made up 50% royal no.2s from the filtration reedbed, 25% scrapings from all the bowing and scraping and 25% recycled scones left unsold from the cafe.
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Message 33
Posted by Trillium (U2170869) on Monday, 27th September 2010
We all start somewhere different and I don't envy anyone, least of all HRH Charlie who has had a less than happy life, it would seem.
But the programme invited the viewers to appreciate and admire his achievements at Highgrove. And that appreciation for me, is less than it might be in other circumstances. I rather regret that I feel like that because, as you say, it makes it harder for those who start with advantages to be recognised for what they have truly done. Which is one way of levelling the field I guess...Link to this forum: Titchmarsh talks to HRH Prince Charles - TV show
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Message 34
Posted by Trillium (U2170869) on Monday, 27th September 2010
Frank - your good start in life has done you nothing but good. Whether you credit your parents for your warm nature and delightful eloquence, or whether you reckon you taught yourself that despite, you turned out just great
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Message 35
Posted by jauntycyclist (U14199772) on Monday, 27th September 2010
..Obviously never travelled in some of the free world where you can be whipped off the street and vanish for a myriad of reasons some of them religious it would not happen here...
no? are you sure? no secret flights to dark prisons from the uk? No HMG agents listening to people being tortured?
if we listened to the monarchists there would never have been any democracy. they only consented when they were looking down the barrel of cromwells cannon. They still don't want it. Charles said a while back he wants everyone to 'know their place'.
It's illegal under treason laws to even suggest someone else be head of state? how that for a gagging law to protect a religious sect?
Afghans and iraqis have a higher level of democracy than we do. why are we inferior?
All those norman castles people think 'romantic' until you realise what the normans were doing was turning the uk into a west bank with checkpoints to subdue the population while they cultural and ethnically cleansed it and gave the land to their mates. They turned Wales into a Gaza. we are still living with their irish occupation. The more castles the more stiff the resistance was. Will people in 500 years be romantic about idf checkpoints in the west bank?
monarchy is just a role playing game that has all the agents of the state swear a 'national' personal oath [like the ss did to hitler] and the 'national' anthem is a monarchist sing song. There is nothing national about the symbols of uk institutions.
so we need a new national oath that has something about defending the people in it, a new national anthem that has something about the country in it and an end the head of state privatised out to hereditary role gamers of a small white anglican sect.
suppose iraq or afghanistan adopted that un democratic unrepresentative model? there would be outrage?Link to this forum: Titchmarsh talks to HRH Prince Charles - TV show
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Message 36
Posted by Palaisglide (U3102587) on Monday, 27th September 2010
Afghans and iraqis have a higher level of democracy than we do. why are we inferior? ??????????????????????
After a statement such as that, and I am sure the people of Zimbabwe would agree, I see no point in continuing this discussion.
As I did in the army, I stand to attention, of my own free will and salute my Monarch.
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Message 37
Posted by Palaisglide (U3102587) on Monday, 27th September 2010
Trillium,
I love you too.
I bless my parents now long gone for the start they gave me, although at the time I did not realise it as none of us do.
What I have now which is retired comfort with the wherewithal to keep it comfortable was my own hard work and my wife's good management.
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Message 38
Posted by greekchick (U14431904) on Tuesday, 28th September 2010
Fascinating though all this is, please let's not forget this is a gardening message board, so let's not get into politics, the rights and wrongs of the monarchy or bitching about the privileged few. One thing is certain whatever your start in life, once dead we are all equal.
Gardening is the one thing that helps me get away from all such things. When I am gardening, I am in touch with the very essence of life. To grow something to eat or to admire for me is a privilege in it’s self.Link to this forum: Titchmarsh talks to HRH Prince Charles - TV show
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Message 39
Posted by the cycling gardener (U2350416) on Tuesday, 28th September 2010
There is always someone wanting to pull us into line and spoil the fun.
I wholeheartedly agree that gardening is an enormous pleasure and an activity in which we can "live in the now". However, it has been a great shame that activity on this board has dwindled to next to nothing since we were marshalled into a shed to discuss non-gardening topics. Occasionally and it must be said, rarely, these days we do let things slip a bit. Doesn't half liven this place up when we haven't got Joe's alotmentgate or similar to discuss.Link to this forum: Titchmarsh talks to HRH Prince Charles - TV show
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Message 40
Posted by greeneddy (U6603838) on Tuesday, 28th September 2010
Once dead we are all compost.
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Message 41
Posted by Aspidistra (U11680993) on Tuesday, 28th September 2010
Evening all. I found, like Trillium, that I was unable to detach myself from the sense of privilege in the garden. Yes, it's a lovely garden (I visited it just last week) and yes, it has some great ideas and features. Well of course, the best that money can buy.
But for me, a garden is a place to wander around at leisure and even if one does a garden tour, I always need time afterwards (and this normally happens) to really linger and get a sense of place. At Highgrove, you are herded around and not allowed to veer even remotely off the self-consciously weedy paths.
It costs £15 to get in and I have to say I have visited many, many private gardens through the NGS and other schemes for less than a fiver, which are just as grand and charming and where the owners are generous in allowing one to linger and wander as long as one might wish to. In many ways I admire creativity where there isn't a supply of cash - for example some of the fantastic bits of recycling people go in for on their humble allotments.
That HRH allows people into his garden at all and especially a camera crew suggests he seeks some sort of affirmation from the world. Who doesn't enjoy someone saying nice things about their garden but somehow one would hope he might be above that or perhaps even too busy to care.
I found the most revealing thing about the interview was simply that he did it. It suggested an insecurity somewhere inside of him and perhaps he is right to have that, for indeed he lives in a world where many of us do indeed question whether his existence should be something the country pays for, or whether he should own so much of the country...
As for AT, I felt he was understandably kind to HRH and he had no choice but to play the sycophant. But that would be the only way to do it - if they had brought in Jeremy Paxman or someone, HRH would not have agreed to be interviewed.
I don't agree the way HRH was presented as being so wildly cutting edge organic before anyone else - there were plenty of hippies who had a handle on the whole thing way before he did. The garden clearly is a haven for wildlife, they have all the 'right' creatures there - slow worms, toads etc, but I'd like to know what would happen if badgers or rabbits came looking to join the gang. I expect the shooting party would soon break up the party.Link to this forum: Titchmarsh talks to HRH Prince Charles - TV show
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Message 42
Posted by Palaisglide (U3102587) on Wednesday, 29th September 2010
I don't agree the way HRH was presented as being so wildly cutting edge organic before anyone else - there were plenty of hippies who had a handle on the whole thing way before he did. Â
My father and his predecessors would have loved being called hippies, "err" had they known what it meant.
Being brought up by a very keen gardener who with almost every man left in the village during the war helped feed us all without what we laughingly call modern aids (poisons), I know that H H broke the mould to take us back to the way things were.
Fathers way as we put in the young cabbages and sprouts etc, was to recite, one row for the insects slugs and pigs and three rows for us.
He allowed for wastage by sowing enough and the spoilt plants did feed the pigs, I know because I boiled them in the big outside boiler along with the potato's we got from the fields after they had been picked over.
What H H has done is take us all back to the way things were done very successfully by our forbears and remember those wonderful gardeners produced tropical fruit year round in some cases.
We had a grapevine running through the greenhouse a lean-to he built himself against a south facing wall. He produced melons, I would stand in the greenhouse smelling them when they were nearly ripe having never seen them in the shops, and he produced a long run of tomato's and green salad stuff to keep us away from the doctor. Plus of course all the fruit trees round the walls, Victoria plums to die for, and nearly did climbing the trees.
Those gardeners knew what they were doing and H H has brought that back.
I still say no matter what he has as his so called right I would not want it if it meant leading the life he leads, my life has been much more full and exciting thank you.
As a footnote, would you not choose your interviewer if you had been derided by each and every one of them, the chivvying and guessing around the brothers Miliband at the moment reminds me that nothing and no one is safe from the bloodsuckers of the media.
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Message 43
Posted by Barny (U13453961) on Wednesday, 29th September 2010
So your Dad did n't use any of that 'orrible ,poisonous Nat.GrowMore of which millions of tons were virtually given away to farmers and gardeners during the war?
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Message 44
Posted by Palaisglide (U3102587) on Wednesday, 29th September 2010
Fraid not Barny nor did my farmer uncles either, having our own animals and plenty of composting material it was not needed.
Knee high to a grasshopper I would drive the Cob cart up the fields whilst the men scattered good well rotted compost and manure off the back, we did get a mechanical muck spreader late in the war and a big rattling contraption it was scattering more over the driver than the field.
The Fordson Tractor came very late in the war before that several farms shared one so it was big horses and I loved them.
Father had his own ways with feed and reducing slugs, it included lime which we out down for cabbages and such any way and to keep club root away each plant would go into a hole with fresh soil that I had put through the home made steamer over the pig boiler.
Old fashioned? no new world, after gardening and farming went on an excursion through the chemical companies need for money.
As I see the old chemical products being whipped off the shelves I think "well" sleeping beauty awakes again probably kissed by prince charming.
Sorry folks I digress.
Frank.Link to this forum: Titchmarsh talks to HRH Prince Charles - TV show
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Message 45
Posted by Gianttrowel2 (U14260213) on Wednesday, 29th September 2010
Crumbs what a tangential filled thread!
If one put aside prejudice it was rather pleasent viewing. So HRH has 12 gardeners - so what. At least he is supporting 12 families. I liked the garden and the principles used even if in reality the head gardener is doing it. It someones creation.
Why does everyone get so het up about those with money. It doesn't matter what background you come from wealth, if that's what you think will make you happy, is available to all it just requires hard work, application and above all caring guiding parents.
The world would be a happier place if we could all be content with what we have rather than coveting what others have.
Chill you will be in a happier place.Link to this forum: Titchmarsh talks to HRH Prince Charles - TV show
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Message 46
Posted by theweeshep (U13961168) on Thursday, 30th September 2010
Hi GT2. As I understand it, people get het up not so much with those that work for their money, but those granted it by privileged birth (although I know plenty of exceptions to this). I can see to some degree that this will irk some people - personally I'm too self absorbed to worry what others have!
The monarchist debate is another kettle of frogs altogether...
I agree with your sentiments entirely, and I am most definitely NOT one with money. I do not believe that wealth is available to all though. Luck plays a massive part, as does timing, location, opportunity etc etc...
It has been a diverse thread - I've rather enjoyed reading this one!Link to this forum: Titchmarsh talks to HRH Prince Charles - TV show
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Message 47
Posted by Lowena (U14575314) on Thursday, 30th September 2010
It's not what you know..it's who you know that opens doors for you.
Monarchy..bah humbugLink to this forum: Titchmarsh talks to HRH Prince Charles - TV show
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Message 48
Posted by welshcol (U2301689) on Thursday, 30th September 2010
It's not what you know..it's who you know that opens doors for you.
Monarchy..bah humbug Â
You cant be sad today-Nigella is on tonight
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Message 49
Posted by Lowena (U14575314) on Thursday, 30th September 2010
Now there's a girl who got on despite her family name...Dad...husband.......lol
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Message 50
Posted by Gianttrowel2 (U14260213) on Friday, 1st October 2010
One last comment from me as this could go on forever. Weeshep, luck in my opinion has very little to do with it. You largely make your own luck in life by putting yourself in the right situation at the right time ie you need to work at it to create your own opportunities. I agree with Lowena its definitely who you know but again it needs hard work to create a large network of contacts if you are not born with them!! It can be available to all its just requires more effort if your not born into it. Therin lies the rub as most people these days seem to want success (whatever that might be to you) handed to them on a plate.
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