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Carol Klein - das 'grit'meister
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Message 1.Â
Posted by Vickylynn (U14797080) on Friday, 25th February 2011
Does anyone at the beeb read these messages? Myself and my hubby loved her cottage garden series, as much as everyone else it would seem. Am I alone in thinking she would be great at fronting Gardeners World?? It steadily lost its appeal over the years and I think she would bring it back. Maybe she was asked and said no!!
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Message 2
Posted by TomBradbury (U3349234) on Friday, 25th February 2011
From what I have read (Telegraph) she wasn't best pleased when she lost out to fronting GW when Ö÷²¥´óÐã took the decision to replace Monty Dull after he went ill, and despite standing in for a while to replace MD, they by-passed her and appointed a complete unknown in the name of Toby Buckland. There must be a air of misogyny going on amongst the producers of GW, because in all these years of being lots of very competent female GW presenters, no female presenters have ever got appointed when a replacement is sought. Carol Klein is up there with Geoff Hamilton in my opinion, which means for me that she by-passes the house wife's choice of Alan Titchmarsh.
Perhaps giving Carol her own programme was a way of placating her and proving that she can hold her own. Seeing all the comments on this forum about how many people loved her series just goes to prove that when the time comes they should look closer to home for a replacement and a female one at that. -
Message 3
Posted by Sir Plantalot (U11098143) on Tuesday, 1st March 2011
I had to laugh at your title, very funny. Carol must use an immense amount of the stuff and has certainly earned the title.
I was quoted almost £300 for 3 tonnes which was the minimum delivery and much more than I could afford, use or store. But I think small bags are ridiculously expensive and aren't really an option.
Does anyone know of an alternative I was thinking pea gravel but it's quite a bit bigger, would it be as effective? -
Message 4
Posted by Stressed out (U11163734) on Tuesday, 1st March 2011
Does anyone know of an alternative I was thinking pea gravel but it's quite a bit bigger, would it be as effective?Â
I posted on another thread that you could always look at animal feed suppliers as they sometimes keep flint grit in bags for feeding chickens. Usually comes in three grades and a mixed. Avoid the mixed as it has limestone and oyster shell in it. Comes in 25kg paper bags and there is no VAT on the grit as it is classed as animal feed.
So if you have any large battery hen houses near you find out where they get their grit from. They will buy it in bulk bags and usually the feed supplier will drop you one off.
The 25 Kg bags come on a pallet load of 44 or 46 bags, just over 1 ton. -
Message 5
Posted by mister-grow-it-all (U14591945) on Tuesday, 1st March 2011
i think carols is great to a while ago before she got her series , i started a post it was very interesting to her all the different views, i do like monty though and wish him all the best
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Message 6
Posted by 1stClassAlan (U14795082) on Sunday, 6th March 2011
I had to laugh at your title, very funny. Carol must use an immense amount of the stuff and has certainly earned the title.
I was quoted almost £300 for 3 tonnes which was the minimum delivery and much more than I could afford, use or store. But I think small bags are ridiculously expensive and aren't really an option.
Does anyone know of an alternative I was thinking pea gravel but it's quite a bit bigger, would it be as effective? Looking at the heap in Carol's garden - she has about a ton of granite chippings - she's in Devon so they are readily available probably cheaper but even around the London area they are £50-60 per ton and sold in many builder's merchants as the finish for flat roofing. Your £ 300 quote must have seen you coming!
There might not be any VAT on chicken grit but you will paying through the beak for it ! -
Message 7
Posted by happytobyfan (U13663471) on Sunday, 6th March 2011
There might not be any VAT on chicken grit but you will paying through the beak for it ! Â
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Message 8
Posted by Vickylynn (U14797080) on Wednesday, 9th March 2011
From what I have read (Telegraph) she wasn't best pleased when she lost out to fronting GW when Ö÷²¥´óÐã took the decision to replace Monty Dull after he went ill, and despite standing in for a while to replace MD, they by-passed her and appointed a complete unknown in the name of Toby Buckland. There must be a air of misogyny going on amongst the producers of GW, because in all these years of being lots of very competent female GW presenters, no female presenters have ever got appointed when a replacement is sought. Carol Klein is up there with Geoff Hamilton in my opinion, which means for me that she by-passes the house wife's choice of Alan Titchmarsh.
Perhaps giving Carol her own programme was a way of placating her and proving that she can hold her own. Seeing all the comments on this forum about how many people loved her series just goes to prove that when the time comes they should look closer to home for a replacement and a female one at that. Thanks for filling me in on CK1!! I agree with you re Geoff Hamilton, I loved him!! And your opinions re a female presenter was refreshing, for a bloke! There was something very comforting about her prog though which I think GW had, but lost. Will TB be coming back in the new series?? You seem to have your finger on the pulse! I would be interested to see the viewing figures for GW these days.... -
Message 9
Posted by daisydelight (U14163419) on Wednesday, 9th March 2011
I know, I adored her cottage garden series. I'm just watching it for the second time. She is so good at communicating information and doesn't talk down to listeners. Her enthusiastic way of sharing her gardening is the best thing of all.
She would have been so much better than Monty. I really think it must be to do with being female. Crazy! -
Message 10
Posted by NCFCcrazy (U8661784) on Thursday, 10th March 2011
I was bitterly disappointed that she didnt get her chance when MD left and again now that MD is back.
Seems like the beeb bottled it at decision time and went with the safe option of MD.
CK has been a big influence on me, I dont buy any plants now without investigating ways to propagate them in advance and I grow loads (too much) from seed.
Please give CK her chance to shine! -
Message 11
Posted by poshHebeJeebie (U9319867) on Sunday, 13th March 2011
I, too, was disappointed that Carol wasn't given number one spot for GW. I'm already missing her series from her own garden - and feel she has been under-utilised (again).
Observation: because she uses so much grit, I decided to give it a try, as it were.
I sowed flat-leaved parsley - some in ordinary compost with a sprinkling over the seed, and some with grit over the top. The seedlings with grit germinated at the same time as the seed with compost - but the root system was much better developed. They've all been pricked out into individual cells, and those originally sowed with grit are significantly more robust.
Not truly scientific - but interesting observations! I shall continue to sow seed for comparison. Tomatoes (Gardeners' Delight) also showing the same difference.
Interesting. Any theories as to why????
PHJ -
Message 12
Posted by HOSTANUT (U14480033) on Monday, 14th March 2011
I have to agree that Carol would have been the ideal presenter and her cottage garden series was great.
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Message 13
Posted by jauntycyclist (U14199772) on Monday, 14th March 2011
i can't stand carol and the endless fizzy witter.
but the main point for me is the bbc do not know who their target audience is. they just seemed bowed by whatever fascism has gripped the minds of the london garden establishment.
so its latin names and anti garden centre is what we get.
the talk should not be about presenters but the higher strategy. Toby was the fall guy for producers errors. -
Message 14
Posted by moonchime (U14715910) on Monday, 14th March 2011
Carol is one of the best gardening presenters we've ever had.
I was one of the people bitterly disappointed by the decision not to ask her to front the programme and I am overjoyed at every bit of screen time she gets.
Love her books too and for the first time this year am trialling grit!
I look forward with hope, to more programmes from her outside Gardeners World and thought her recent series absolutely wonderful.
Monty is another of my all time favourites, so I'm very relieved to see him back and greatly enjoying the chance to visit his own garden. I hope his wife Sarah will get the recognition she deserves for helping him to build it.
I find the critisism of both of these people hard to fathom...one is too excitable...one is too glum.....
To me they both have an obvious energy and passion, strength and huge wisdom.
Massive applause from me for the new format and return to intelligent gardening which reaches out to everyone. -
Message 15
Posted by floraltips (U14757778) on Monday, 14th March 2011
Reply to messages 10,11 and 12.
Now people, surely you know by now that the Ö÷²¥´óÐã doesn't "do" females of a certain age!!
I mean, how many news presenters, the Countryfile person who took them to court, Arlene Phillips (strictly come dancing) have been given the heave-ho or conviently(sp?) buried on daytime tv.
I would have loved for Carol to have had the GW job but even I knew that she had too many years and wrinkles for the powers- that- be at the Ö÷²¥´óÐã.
Just in case of any misunderstanding...this is a criticism of said Ö÷²¥´óÐãand NOT Carol. -
Message 16
Posted by Yakram (U2443370) on Thursday, 17th March 2011
Like Carol, I have used grit on top of trays and pots for more years than I care to remember. Grit prevents competition from liverwort and other weedy things growing, keeps moisture in to a certain extent, protects from fierce sun without shading too much, allows air to the seeds/seedlings, keeps compost 'open'. I use alpine grit for topping, and occasionally use vermiculite when the grit runs out with equally good effect.
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Message 17
Posted by 1stClassAlan (U14795082) on Monday, 21st March 2011
Like Carol, I have used grit on top of trays and pots for more years than I care to remember. Grit prevents competition from liverwort and other weedy things growing, keeps moisture in to a certain extent, protects from fierce sun without shading too much, allows air to the seeds/seedlings, keeps compost 'open'. I use alpine grit for topping, and occasionally use vermiculite when the grit runs out with equally good effect.
³Û²¹°ì°ì±ð°ù²õÌý Let me have a go at grit!
In some circumstances it is a good thing but not all and in a few - detrimental.
When a horticulturist says - use grit - they are referring to an inert substance e.g. small lumps of impervious smashed rock and these will "open up" a compost or help seal over the surface; however; many types of readily available grits up and down the country differ vastly and so can the results. Try putting some Cotswold chippings around some Azaleas and you'll remember what not to use. Many rocks are calcareous - limey and will slowly breakdown releasing calcium - good for some plants and not for others.
Carol being down in Devon looks to use a granite chipping which is for all intents inert ( unless you have a few millenia to wait ) so that's O.k. but it ain't magic and in my experience Liverwort will grow anywhere it wants given enough time. -
Message 18
Posted by judimac (U2467704) on Tuesday, 29th March 2011
I remember her programme years ago on channel 4 and wondered where she'd gone till she popped up again on Gw. I love her!
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Message 20
Posted by Lowena (U14575314) on Wednesday, 30th March 2011
She's been on GW for years!! And she did a good series on Ö÷²¥´óÐã2 about the yellow book gardens, and she's at Chelsea.....don't know where you've been, but CK has rarely been off my tv lol
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