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Monty Don
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Message 1.Â
Posted by loulou (U14893267) on Friday, 3rd June 2011
I love the show with Monty Don and find it so much more informative. He represents 'real' gardening, like the late Geoff Hamilton. Although I have been gardening for many years I am learning so many new things now he is back. Well done Monty and Ö÷²¥´óÐã Gardeners World.
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Message 2
Posted by David K (U14115317) on Friday, 3rd June 2011
Call me a sceptic, but two threads extolling the virtues of MD started within minutes of the programme finishing?
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Message 3
Posted by nooj (U13729031) on Friday, 3rd June 2011
You're a sceptic!
There are always threads started just after a programme -
Message 4
Posted by David K (U14115317) on Friday, 3rd June 2011
You're a sceptic!
There are always threads started just after a programmeÂ
For sure, another two newbies with no posting history. -
Message 5
Posted by thedogcody (U14659366) on Saturday, 4th June 2011
I agree with you there is something a bit iffy about these messages- both with the same title and both saying virtually the same thing- one was posted at 8.52- before the programme had even finished- not sure about the other one- but if new posters and allowing for pre-moderation composed and posted even before the programme went out
They dont actually mention last nights programme- but I think there is a hidden agenda here somewhere or am I just being paranoid and attaching importance to something that isn't!
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Message 6
Posted by David K (U14115317) on Saturday, 4th June 2011
I'm glad someone else sees that something isn't quite right about these postings and how strange that they are always gushingly complimentary.
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Message 7
Posted by darren p (U8518743) on Saturday, 4th June 2011
conspiracy indeed. who knew it would be started here? that is what is so insidious about it. such a trivial , out of the way message board is about to become home to something truly massive. a cover up that will echo through time and space. a happening of such biblical magnitiude....
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Message 8
Posted by thedogcody (U14659366) on Saturday, 4th June 2011
I feel a superinjunction coming on to protect the secret identities of these two- where is Twitter when you need it?
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Message 9
Posted by Ken Smart (U1158196) on Saturday, 4th June 2011
A decent programme once again, though I did enjoy the MD contributions better than the filmed segments. I found his information very useful. How I wish I had some sort of outhouse that I could work in out of the elements.
What the hell did the transistor radio start to the programme signify? Was this a green light to all gardeners to have a radio blaring away in the garden? Historically, the programme always starts with the recognisable signature music (they even foolishly changed it a few years ago), and now we have to suffer a novel change to the norm. I wonder if the 'short trouser' brigade are back in town again.
I still don't 'get' Rachel. I'm sure she's very nice, but I've just never seen her do anything, or say anything, that the average experiened gardener couldn't do. There has never yet been an original gardening word uttered from her lips.
Carol's segment was one of these 'please help me' requests from yet another person who could easily acquire the required information from a book or the internet, but who felt they would like to ham it up on TV. This person could set up bee hives, but couldn't work out how to feed them. A waste of 5 minutes.
Still, Joe was nowhere to be seen - so there was a bit of compensatory good news to make up for a couple of low notes. -
Message 10
Posted by David K (U14115317) on Saturday, 4th June 2011
Ken, you are Monty Don's agent and I claim my five pounds.
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Message 11
Posted by honestGreengrass (U11104227) on Saturday, 4th June 2011
My apologies to all the folk who think the programme's great. I did to begin with, but now find it's often repetitive and boring.... and before someone reminds me there's an off switch on the TV... I used it yesterday after the Chelsea chop!
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Message 12
Posted by Colin (U2252951) on Saturday, 4th June 2011
>I still don't 'get' Rachel.<
Her section on 'Chelsea chop' was questionable, the weather means plants are 2-3 weeks ahead, plus Chelsea was last week. I'd say anyone in the south of England is too late. -
Message 13
Posted by Pumpkin_Patch_Paul (U14565900) on Saturday, 4th June 2011
Kens post is 100% spot on, the bee lady was a puzzle indeed,bit like biulding your own car and then asking somebody how to put petrol in it...
What got my goat was the programme that followed it Julie Bradburys canal walks (I watched this a couple of weeks ago on Ö÷²¥´óÐã4) they could have gave us an hour long Monty show I mean he wasn't busy with Chelsea was he.
Also if we can have repeats of repeats from Ö÷²¥´óÐã4 why can't GW get a repeat slot......
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Message 14
Posted by Obelixx (U2157162) on Saturday, 4th June 2011
I've done a Chelsea chop on hardy geraniums in the last week of June. Then they get a feed and a water of needed and by the time I get back from hols in mid July they've recovered and are setting their next flowers.
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Message 15
Posted by Ken Smart (U1158196) on Saturday, 4th June 2011
Ken, you are Monty Don's agent and I claim my five pounds. Alas David, it's just not true. The money would come in handy, but I'm afraid I'll just have to content myself with following his contributions on GW. I continue to enjoy your own contributions on the board, and it's reassuring to have someone who seems even more curmudgeonly than myself about many aspects of gardening programmes.
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Message 16
Posted by figrat (U3054696) on Saturday, 4th June 2011
Snap! I just found the whole Rachel thingy so irritating that I couldn't be bothered to watch any more. But isn't she married to a Beeb producer?
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Message 17
Posted by Trillium (U2170869) on Saturday, 4th June 2011
I know some here don't rate Rachel, but she knows what she's doing. She cut the Veronicastrums back correctly, to just above a leaf node, while the expert she was with chopped them back at any old place in the stem, leaving stubs which looked unsightly and will die back.
Btw you don't need a big piece of a Sedum with several leaves on for a cutting - one leaf with a short section of stem will do, or just a torn off leaf! More efficient and easier to set out in the greenhouse.
As a joined up section to do with managing herbaceous growth, i.e. stake or cut back, I though it was fine. -
Message 18
Posted by David K (U14115317) on Sunday, 5th June 2011
I’ve never had a problem with Rachel; at least she doesn’t preach and act as if she knows it all.
I’ve met her a couple of times at Gardeners’ World Live and in a one to one situation it soon becomes apparent she does know her stuff.
Not in the same league as Carol, but she’s okay by me! -
Message 19
Posted by Stressed out (U11163734) on Sunday, 5th June 2011
It was awful - bankrupt of ideas and based in very poor garden
I particularly liked the vista with the dead box and how to care for your lemon tree
If this is supposed to be the premier gardening show on the Ö÷²¥´óÐã its about time that the Don was dispatched to history
failed first time failed this time
I guess that next Friday at 8pm we will see a real master of his art on ITV.
Perhaps at that stage some people will see the Don in his kings clothes -
Message 20
Posted by Colin (U2252951) on Sunday, 5th June 2011
I was left horrified that the Donster advocated turning on the sprinkler for an hour. So much for sustainable gardening! Doesn't he know water is our most precious resource and will soon be too scarce to use in this way?
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Message 21
Posted by Obelixx (U2157162) on Sunday, 5th June 2011
I thought the box hedges looked as though they were greening up well and I enjoyed the lemon tree info. It's on my wish list for when I have somewhere to keep it over winter. Working on that but not for a year or two.
The metal stakes are good too. I tried it after he showed them at Berryfields and the'yre excellent - cheaper, stronger and less visible than the commercial ones and indestructible. I get the metal rods from a builders' merchant. I'm even contemplating making a couple of hazel obelisks as my local supplier can't get the size I need in rusty ones.
Rachel does know her stuff and has studied horticulture - one of the great beefs against Monty. She also has years of experience but, being younger than Carol, needs time to have her breadth and depth.
Good programme. -
Message 22
Posted by thedogcody (U14659366) on Sunday, 5th June 2011
I was left horrified that the Donster advocated turning on the sprinkler for an hour. So much for sustainable gardening! Doesn't he know water is our most precious resource and will soon be too scarce to use in this way? If I may say a little over the top - there is nothing wrong in watering- if farmers didn't water where would your food come from- water is not scarce in any part of the country as far as I am aware - no water companies are expecting a hosepipe ban despite reservoir low levels and lack of rain - you cant sustain a garden without water!!
Geoff
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Message 23
Posted by darren p (U8518743) on Sunday, 5th June 2011
monty was just saying... you know.... if you are going to water your garden - do it properly. it is a valuable rescource yes, but if you are going to waste it on washing cars on a sunday morning...might as well use it on something worthwhile eh? and do it properly. simple. he did not advocate everyone going out and pouring the old h2o down the drain did he? well did he??????
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Message 24
Posted by Colin (U2252951) on Sunday, 5th June 2011
Hosepipe bans can be expected in the next few weeks. Anyone irrigating now will be left with unsustainable lush growth which will collapse in the drought.
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Message 25
Posted by darren p (U8518743) on Sunday, 5th June 2011
ok for me , i use the water from my pond/ aquarium to irrigate any stressed plants. by the way. water changes are needed to keep fish healthy, so please do not start crying over that too. boo hooo
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Message 26
Posted by thedogcody (U14659366) on Sunday, 5th June 2011
Hosepipe bans can be expected in the next few weeks. Anyone irrigating now will be left with unsustainable lush growth which will collapse in the drought. Where exactly do you get your information from?
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Message 27
Posted by darren p (U8518743) on Sunday, 5th June 2011
bbc south east had a story a week ago or so. some water company dude saying levels and rainfall are lower than expected but no problems are predicted. i think monty will change all that with his massive programme of over-watering plants. he is to blame for everything i reckon. probably has a stockpile of wmd's as well.... invade monty don ! rid the planet of this terrible monstrosity.(i will have his house /garden)
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Message 28
Posted by Colin (U2252951) on Sunday, 5th June 2011
>Where exactly do you get your information from?<
The journal of record itself, the Daily Mail -
Message 29
Posted by darren p (U8518743) on Sunday, 5th June 2011
get back to watching your eastenders pal.
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Message 30
Posted by thedogcody (U14659366) on Sunday, 5th June 2011
>Where exactly do you get your information from?<
The journal of record itself, the Daily Mail This a joke right-or are you being serious???? -
Message 31
Posted by Derek Pig (U14833635) on Sunday, 5th June 2011
Hosepipe bans can be expected in the next few weeks. Anyone irrigating now will be left with unsustainable lush growth which will collapse in the drought. i don't know any plants that do that? water is vital to all the plants physiology. if it doesn't get it ti will die. so, er, water it?
i'm lucky living in the wet and windy north of the country. we're still pouring water down the drains here. In fact, we are industrially salinating water to cure our haggis. -
Message 32
Posted by thedogcody (U14659366) on Sunday, 5th June 2011
get back to watching your eastenders pal.Â
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Message 33
Posted by darren p (U8518743) on Sunday, 5th June 2011
haggis can never be cured, best thing to take them out the back and shoot em.
better for everyone !!!! -
Message 34
Posted by dod19 (U14705887) on Sunday, 5th June 2011
I couldn't believe MD was advocating metal stakes - I thought he was supposed to be into everything 'green' and environmentally friendly.
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Message 35
Posted by nooj (U13729031) on Sunday, 5th June 2011
I wish to make a complaint.
haggises should rarely be shot in the wild - and only then if the breeding is overwhelming the available food.
And ALWAYS by a trained marksman . -
Message 36
Posted by David K (U14115317) on Sunday, 5th June 2011
I thought the box hedges looked as though they were greening up well Â
Keep thinking me dere, they looked just the same to me and the sooner he grubs em out, the better. -
Message 37
Posted by Obelixx (U2157162) on Sunday, 5th June 2011
I can only say you have very jaundiced eyes DK and, even with the correct spelling, I am not your dear!
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Message 38
Posted by David K (U14115317) on Sunday, 5th June 2011
I can only say you have very jaundiced eyes DK and, even with the correct spelling, I am not your dear!Â
Never join the Archers boards me dere, the speak would drive you mad.
Hope you backed the Derby winner yesterday. -
Message 39
Posted by figrat (U3054696) on Sunday, 5th June 2011
Hosepipe bans can be expected in the next few weeks. Anyone irrigating now will be left with unsustainable lush growth which will collapse in the drought. i don't know any plants that do that? water is vital to all the plants physiology. if it doesn't get it ti will die. so, er, water it?
i'm lucky living in the wet and windy north of the country. we're still pouring water down the drains here. In fact, we are industrially salinating water to cure our haggis. I'm on the southern edge of Dartmoor and my plants are currently surviving on recycled bath water.
Fortunately we don't have any free range haggis down this way. -
Message 40
Posted by Obelixx (U2157162) on Monday, 6th June 2011
DK - I don't do soaps on radio or TV and have to say I do wonder about people who take them seriously enough to get het up about them on message boards.
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Message 41
Posted by David K (U14115317) on Monday, 6th June 2011
Eh! Soaps? Het up?
It's a message board where I just happen to post messages.. furthermore I also host (and have for a number of years) a very peaceful and active gardening section there.
My point was that sometimes they have a language of their own, where 'dere' may be used instead of 'dear', thort' instead of 'thought' 'askually' instead of 'actually'...get the idea?
I'm sure you wouldn't like it! -
Message 42
Posted by nooj (U13729031) on Monday, 6th June 2011
I don't think I'd like it either David - is there a point to it?
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Message 43
Posted by David K (U14115317) on Monday, 6th June 2011
I don't think I'd like it either David - is there a point to it? Not sure what you mean, Nooj. Is there a point to what?
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Message 44
Posted by nooj (U13729031) on Tuesday, 7th June 2011
Sorry David - didn't mean to ignore you - I meant talking in funny accents on the Archers' board.
Or posting in funny accents is probably what I mean,... -
Message 45
Posted by David K (U14115317) on Tuesday, 7th June 2011
Sorry David - didn't mean to ignore you - I meant talking in funny accents on the Archers' board.
Or posting in funny accents is probably what I mean,...Â
More a silly vocabulary with SOH undertones, I would describe it. Either way not of my making and pretty harmless.
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