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Message 1.Ìý
Posted by Ken Smart (U1158196) on Thursday, 24th November 2011
It's been mentioned many times in the past, but there really is a pressing need for a gardening-related program over the winter months. There are so many important and essential tasks that can be tackled during the winter months, and which are seldom mentioned in the normal GW year. This week, I've been struggling with a new chainsaw, and have had to swallow my pride and ask a neighbour to provide some advice. I felt a bit giddy by all the 'dos and don'ts' I've to remember. I thought all I had to do was start it up, saw down a tree, and dump it in a dark corner. Similarly, the faithful lawnmower could do with some TLC, and hedge and lawn strimmers are also awaiting some restorative maintenance. A large patio area is in need of cleaning and cement fill, but I can't recall any good advice on how best to go about such a task. The automatic vents in the greenhouse require replacement (yet again), and while I've done this many times in the past, I know that it took a little thought the first time round. Clearly, there are many more such tasks which await many of us.
Winter tasks are plentiful, and even a monthly program would be welcome. It would be a fine opportunity for some lesser known 'gardener' to provide a welcome supplement to our normal gardening menu. -
Message 2
Posted by Lowena (U14575314) on Thursday, 24th November 2011
I totally agree. I'm just embarking on tidying up my beds and borders, knowing what to cut down or leave until spring takes experience, as does knowing which plants can be moved or divided now. Which seeds may be sown, how to look after autumn sown sweet peas ( to pinch out or not), how to wrap potted plants , how much bubblewrap and how many layers of fleece - all can be bewildering and even experienced gardeners wouldn't mind a revisit.
I don't grow vegetables but am sure there are lots of tips on those to be given too.
Especially down here in Cornwall, we garden 12 months a yera - our grass and weeds also continue to grow and need attention..........why should gardening programmes stop?? -
Message 3
Posted by kate1123 (U14824475) on Thursday, 24th November 2011
I would like some more horticultural science and how we can apply it in an amateur garden.
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Message 4
Posted by thedogcody (U14659366) on Thursday, 24th November 2011
Sarah Raven's-I know not everbody's taste-slightly gardening related programme was supposed to have been shown by now-still says coming soon to Ö÷²¥´óÐã2
Today across the daytime schedules I have counted 10 different property, cooking, antiques shows-sad soul that I am-which rather tells its own story.
A gardening repeat would at least be something
Perhaps we should all get together and make our own gardening show!!!!!-nobody at Ö÷²¥´óÐã/ITV is listening. -
Message 5
Posted by Lowena (U14575314) on Thursday, 24th November 2011
I'm not a big fan of Sarah Raven, but her programme has been put back and back for seemingly no good reason.When you look at the rubbish and repeats on Ö÷²¥´óÐã3 you have to assume that there is a school of thought at the Ö÷²¥´óÐã which is heavily anti- gardening!!
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Message 6
Posted by thedogcody (U14659366) on Thursday, 24th November 2011
Without wishing to stir up any controversy I assume work at Monty's and Carol's garden's go on during the winter-a once a week video diary from there or any other presenters gardens could be made and surely would not cost that much.
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Message 7
Posted by Don Kidick (U13987773) on Thursday, 24th November 2011
Perhaps the Ö÷²¥´óÐã could make a docusoap type of programme, based on gardening.
They could take a load of contestants and lock them in a garden, make them grow their own food and complete tasks involving manure.
They could call it something like……….gardenation street, or if they include livestock……….beastenders.
What would you call it?
Cheers. Don.
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Message 8
Posted by nooj (U13729031) on Thursday, 24th November 2011
I so agree -
we've said time and time again that there are so many things to be doing now.
If they need to make it more indoorsy there's the whole thing of Xmas decorations with evergreens.
And if you look at questions people ask about autumn sown broad beans etc, benefits of grow lights, frost protection of all sorts of things.
Rats and mice! -
Message 9
Posted by Lowena (U14575314) on Thursday, 24th November 2011
When and where to spread compost, winter care of compost heaps, benefits of coldframes, etc etc
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Message 10
Posted by kate1123 (U14824475) on Thursday, 24th November 2011
I would have thought it would be possible to do a outdoor DIY/garden maintenance show. I cannot believe that ITV has not seen the commercial appeal of this.
I would be happy to watch CK's show again.
SR must be fuming, her book to go with the series is ready for the Christmas market . -
Message 11
Posted by David K (U14115317) on Thursday, 24th November 2011
Ken - Would you really trust advice from MD of how to use a CHAINSAW????
Stick with your neighbour.
The sight of his motor mower running amok in the compost heap is enough for me! -
Message 12
Posted by nooj (U13729031) on Thursday, 24th November 2011
Your vitriol where Monty is concerned is so strong, I'm almost coming to think he has spurned your advances at some time in the past?
would that be correct?
hell hath no fury etc....? -
Message 13
Posted by Lowena (U14575314) on Thursday, 24th November 2011
Norty Nooj
Heaven knows I am not a fan of Monty Don, by any means. I'm even put off watching programmes in which he appears ( and have to steel myself to watch, if they're about gardening)but, some people seem to just like to be nasty - first poor Christine and the nasty remarks about her appearance and now Monty. I find it a bit sad -
Message 14
Posted by nooj (U13729031) on Thursday, 24th November 2011
Only asking a question - surely that's ok?
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Message 15
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Message 16
Posted by johnjake (U15039133) on Friday, 25th November 2011
i doubt there is need for the Ö÷²¥´óÐã or itv to such a program. An internet based program of this nature would be fine. but keep Ö÷²¥´óÐã out of it since it would cost to much and they have over pay the staff. a average home improvement guru would fill need there plenty of internet video to answer most question in winter gardening area. one only has to look. diy store could it on there websites if they wanted. but i digress.
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Message 17
Posted by Ken Smart (U1158196) on Friday, 25th November 2011
Ken - Would you really trust advice from MD of how to use a CHAINSAW???? smiley - yikes Stick with your neighbour.Ìý
Now now, David, I specifically suggested that we should have some lesser known mortal at the helm. Monty and the team seem only too willing to have a week off whenever there is a sporting event scheduled, so I presume that they will look forward to their winter break. I was thinking more about some genuine gardener who can talk with real authority about all aspects of general maintenance in the garden area. I'm sure the right person (or persons) are out there right now awaiting an invitation.. -
Message 18
Posted by Don Kidick (U13987773) on Friday, 25th November 2011
Ken - Would you really trust advice from MD of how to use a CHAINSAW???? smiley - yikes Stick with your neighbour.Ìý
Now now, David, I specifically suggested that we should have some lesser known mortal at the helm. Monty and the team seem only too willing to have a week off whenever there is a sporting event scheduled, so I presume that they will look forward to their winter break. I was thinking more about some genuine gardener who can talk with real authority about all aspects of general maintenance in the garden area. I'm sure the right person (or persons) are out there right now awaiting an invitation.. Ìý I’ll do it.
I’ll start my own gardening/DIY programme and call it……..
You too could have one like Don Kidick.
I could show everyone my personal little places and everyone could watch as I make it grow, bigger and better.
Who knows I could even end up with a cult following, with fans chanting we want Don Kidick, everywhere I go.
Oh well we all have dreams
don’t we?
Cheers. Don. -
Message 19
Posted by ArtemisH (U14261033) on Friday, 25th November 2011
DK, old chap, give it a rest.
You've been trying to deride the skills of MD for far too long.
You know it doesn't work! -
Message 20
Posted by ArtemisH (U14261033) on Friday, 25th November 2011
No, Nooj, it isn't.
However, it would seem that it's all write to express envy in terms of derision.
I don't know what your question was but, I suspect, it wasn't derisory enough! -
Message 21
Posted by ArtemisH (U14261033) on Friday, 25th November 2011
"Sad" is the word, Lowena!
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Message 22
Posted by johnjake (U15039133) on Friday, 25th November 2011
how could any one deride the skills of Monty Don. as for monty using chain saw
not sure if the censures would allow that even after water shed. i think there is a law again self mutilation on tv. -
Message 23
Posted by Don Kidick (U13987773) on Friday, 25th November 2011
DK, old chap, give it a rest.
You've been trying to deride the skills of MD for far too long.
You know it doesn't work!Ìý
I hope by DK you mean David K and not Don Kidick.
I think MD is great, very relaxing style which contrasts brilliantly with the bubbly style of Carol.
I’ll have him as a guest on my programme anytime.
Cheers. Don. -
Message 24
Posted by ArtemisH (U14261033) on Friday, 25th November 2011
Not you, DK (!).
It was in reply to message 11.
Artemis -
Message 25
Posted by ArtemisH (U14261033) on Friday, 25th November 2011
I should read my messages before posting them.
Of course, I meant "all right" ! -
Message 26
Posted by theweeshep (U13961168) on Friday, 25th November 2011
Ken - Would you really trust advice from MD of how to use a CHAINSAW????
Stick with your neighbour.
The sight of his motor mower running amok in the compost heap is enough for me!
Ìý Wow, it appears more and more like a personal vendetta....
Back on topic - I would love to see a weekly program throughout the winter, but we all know it's unlikely to happen. Shame really.
Don Kidick - yes I love your name, but aren't you milking it now?
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Message 27
Posted by the cycling gardener (U2350416) on Friday, 25th November 2011
<quote>Wow, it appears more and more like a personal vendetta....<quote>
I agree. Its becoming very unpleasant.
Ken - you make an excellent point. Why are gardening programmes rationed during the winter months? Its more like a starvation diet for us gardeners. As this thread demonstrates there is scope for garden programming during the winter. Being as some people have complained that garden visits take up too much time in the regular GW I would suggest that time could be allocated for these in winter programmes when, having been inspired, there is time to take stock and make plans for changes to our own gardens. -
Message 28
Posted by everhopeful (U11289037) on Friday, 25th November 2011
the prog could be called "Whats eating my seedlings" and then show me outside with a torch to catch the culprits. Oh sorry that was another prog about home videos.
I do agree it is sad there are no winter gardening progs tho.
By the way what happened to the "Gardener of the Year" That wasnt on this year.
There are so many food progs and yet we are supposed to be watching weight.
Personally I like a good drama.Not filled with violence tho.
I have even been watching Kirstie Alsop doing crafts. How sad am I becoming.
Please bring back the gardening regardless of who is presenting.
By the way are we having a xmas party on here. Who will organise it and what shall I bring
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Message 29
Posted by kate1123 (U14824475) on Friday, 25th November 2011
Apparently they advertised a Young Gardener of the Year but there are no results, did they not get any applicants or was there not enough tears to make a show?
I thought the previous GOY was a bit twee, it needed to return to a more horticultural rather than design format. -
Message 30
Posted by Pete-Free (U7363826) on Sunday, 27th November 2011
I agree totally with your sentiments Ken. It has been discussed ad anfinitum over the years, to no avail so far.
However, Viewers have a golden opportunity to complain about Ö÷²¥´óÐã TV's neglect of the gardening community and the gap in its Knowledge Programming area by sending their views by e:mail to the Delivering Quality First Public Consultation Process which is open until 21 December 2011.
Details on the Ö÷²¥´óÐã Trust's website. -
Message 31
Posted by Colin (U2252951) on Sunday, 27th November 2011
GQT is still on. The Ö÷²¥´óÐã even rehabilitated the Tobester!
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Message 32
Posted by Lowena (U14575314) on Sunday, 27th November 2011
Yes, 3 of my favourite gardeners were on today's programme
Toby did well I thought -
Message 33
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Message 34
Posted by Her outdoors (U1450108) on Wednesday, 21st December 2011
Hear hear!
There is always something to do in the garden and if the weather/conditions are too bad to be outdoors there is always something to do in the shed or greenhouse.
There are questions which need answering such as what is the best way to store seeds during the winter, how long should we keep them and expect viability, what can we grow on a windowsill - peas for the shoots? turnips for leaves? How do allotment groups buy their seeds, as individuals or in one big order to get a good discount? How much do we need to water those few cabbage plants/spring greens which we are growing in the greenhouse border? How do we look after geraniums over winter? When is the right time to start making stored dahlia tubers shoot?
GW could even, and this might be a bit controversial, include a five minute cookery slot showing us ways of using up our stored veg, etc. Perhaps a soup of the week and we can sit outside and slurp it and plan our garden for the coming year.
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