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Stephen Sackur talks to Nicola Benyahia, the mother of a deceased IS fighter. After terrorist attacks in London and Manchester, the UK is preoccupied with questions about how best to counter the Jihadist threat. For politicians the focus is on policing, intelligence and detention powers. Nicola Benyahia's son Rasheed was radicalised in Birmingham, went to fight with the so-called Islamic State group in Syria and was killed aged just 19. She now offers support to other families facing the dangers of radicalisation at home. How best to close the door on the Jihadis?