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HARDtalk鈥檚 Stephen Sackur speaks to Alfred Bosch, Catalan minister for foreign action. Last week the whole of Europe heard a howl of rage coming from Catalonia. Since Spain鈥檚 highest court sentenced nine pro-independence politicians to a collective one hundred years in prison there have been mass, sometimes violent protests across the region which has left hundreds injured. Madrid says there can be no political dialogue until Catalan politicians condemn the violence and rein in the militants. Where does the pro-independence movement go from here?