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David Aaronovitch and guests discuss the risk of escalation on Russian borders and further afield and explore what form that might take if it were to happen.

Guests:

Natia Seskuria, founder and executive director of the Regional Institute for Security Studies (RISS), a Tbilisi-based think tank
Dr Jack Watling, Senior Research Fellow for Land Warfare at the Royal United Services Institute,
Michael Clarke, Professor of Defence studies and Specialist Advisor to the Joint Committee on the National Security Strategy
Mark Galeotti, writer on Russian security affairs and director of the consultancy Mayak Intelligence

Presenter: David Aaronovitch
Producers: Ben Carter, Kirsteen Knight and Drew Hyndman
Sound engineers: James Beard and Nigel Appleton
Editor: Richard Vadon