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Jo and Andy were married for 4 years. They married in June 2005 a year to the day after their first meeting. They spent their honeymoon doing aid work in Malawi. They describe their divorce in 2009 as 'amicable, but painful'. Jo wanted to record a conversation for the Listening Project to thank Andy for his reaction to her diagnosis. She has autism. The diagnosis came in 2016. They share thoughts on how her autism may have affected their marriage.