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Jo and Andy were married for 4 years. They married in June 2005 a year to the day after their first meeting. They describe their divorce in 2009 as 'amicable, but painful'. Jo wanted to record a conversation for the Listening Project to thank Andy for his reaction to her diagnosis. She has autism. The diagnosis came in 2016. Together, they discuss the challenges of communication and question how autism may have affected their marriage.