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Maleena asks Saima about planning for her passing, from wills to funerals.

If death is inevitable, then planning for it is essential. But it can also be one of the most daunting things that you have to deal with and too many put it off until the very last minute of life.

Maleena chats to Saima in the café about what getting your affairs in order actually means - or the ‘Death Admin’ as she likes to call it.

They hear from Dan, who created a will writing start-up that brings the legal process into the modern digital era.

And Maleena visits the Garden’s Of Peace, the UK’s largest Muslim cemetery, to hear about how tens-of-thousands have balanced their British Asian identity even after they die.

Saima opened Masala Wala cafe with her family, a small Pakistani restaurant that serves her mother’s recipes with love and charm. Out of nowhere, she was diagnosed with incurable lung cancer, before she even turned 30. Her life has been dramatically cut short - without treatment, she wouldn’t be here today.

After dealing with her diagnosis, she talks frankly on how she’s getting over dying, so she can get on with living.

Maleena, a Journalist and Producer, lost her brother when they were both teenagers, after a long battle with leukaemia. As she became an adult, her father passed away suddenly and without warning. She shares openly what it’s like growing up with grief, the guilt of being left behind and how her identity as a British Asian was tested to its limits.

Together, they bond over their unique perspectives on life and death and ponder the ultimate question - why?

Join them for their chat over a cup of chai - this could be the most important podcast of your afterlife...

If you have been affected by any of the issues raised in this programme you can find support at the Ö÷²¥´óÐã Action line for bereavement:

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