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Troy and Jermain reflect on the first rollickings they ever got from a manager.

Troy talks about how Sean Dyche reacted after Troy failed to listen to his instructions, and how Dyche tested him every single day at training. Jermain discusses how Martin Jol "came for him" at half time of a game, leading Defoe to throw a water bottle.

And the pair compare notes on the worst rollickings they've seen in a dressing room, including one done through an interpreter.

Plus, they discuss David Beckham and Glenn Hoddle, why Marco Silva is ruthless, and what made Fabio Capello so scary.