Episode discussion for week starting 16 January 2012
Battle of the blondes
Lucy has been trending on Twitter every single time she's been on screen since her return. So she's certainly the talk of the Square. But is she a match for Mandy? Or will Mandy succeed in becoming Lucy's (evil?) stepmother? What do you think?
Benjay
We've had Jirk (on TOWIE) Jedward... can we now have Benjay? Ben and Jay are brothers from another mother, and this week they're doing up a drag car. We're thinking Phil mightn't be so keen to help out if he knew what Ben had been up to recently though...
Dark times for Tam
These are really hard times for Tamwar, who's pushing Afia away while he recovers. Can't you see she loves you Tam!? Sob. Should we all go round there and sort this mess out? They deserve to be happy...
Ever the charmer
Bianca can't stop Ray from coming to Walford... but she can make it as unpleasant as possible for him. Is she right to protect Morgan from more instability? Or is Ray just what Morgan needs after the death of Nana Pat?
Lauren in trouble
Tanya and Max take Lauren to the doctor to shock her into cutting her excessive drinking. But are they failing to see that it's a cry for help? What should they do?
Discuss these topics and anything else that springs to mind about this week's episodes in the comments section below...
Comment number 1.
At 16th Jan 2012, dannyappo1 wrote:first to comment :) looks like a good week coming are way not to sure about the new lucy though :/
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At 16th Jan 2012, Deano wrote:16th SEPTEMBER 2011!!! OH MY GOODNESS! I'VE TRANSPORTER BACK IN TIME?! EastEnders... You better edit that to Jan 2012 haha :) Lauren getting in to trouble. Not good, not good at all.
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Comment number 3.
At 16th Jan 2012, dannyappo1 wrote:lol only just noticed the 2011
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Comment number 4.
At 16th Jan 2012, Nickie - Host wrote:Gasp! Thanks Deano! Have changed - should show up soon. That'll teach us for using that knock off calendar we got from Mo Harris... :)
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Comment number 5.
At 16th Jan 2012, Pilky wrote:Looks like a particuarly boring week if you ask me :L I'm quite enjoying the whole gangster theme going on now with the Brannings and Michael as their errond boy.
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Comment number 6.
At 16th Jan 2012, Nickie - Host wrote:You must have enjoyed Friday's episode in that case, Pilky?
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At 16th Jan 2012, Pilky wrote:I certainly did ;)
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Comment number 8.
At 16th Jan 2012, x_EastendersFan4Life_x wrote:This weel seems very exciting!! Not too sure bout new Lucy. I hope some old characters come back soon because i love old characters in the soaps they are so funny. Im not sayin the younger ones are rubbish, they are brilliant actors. I just think Stacey or Peggy or Grant, etc, should come back that would be really good. Hope eastenders bears that in mind if they look at our comments. Do they look at our comments at all or not? I would really like to know. :)
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Comment number 9.
At 16th Jan 2012, Pilky wrote:Does anyone yet know how Heather is being killed off this month? I have my doubts on Andrew (he might flip out bearing in mind he is half brother of Nick Cotton...) but I have heard Ben pushes her down the stairs and frames Phil! :O
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Comment number 10.
At 16th Jan 2012, EastEndBabe1 wrote:Well looking forward to he week
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Comment number 11.
At 17th Jan 2012, lewis_spiby wrote:i prefer the old lucy but gotta say, the new one is bare fit!!
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Comment number 12.
At 17th Jan 2012, freddy wrote:hmm cool but tam need to say sorry to af coes it zees falut not afias so tam just hug her or something anything :) and new lucy is ok (will peter comeing ack ?? oand zeze or what ever was her name ? ) (o and peggy ?? )
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Comment number 13.
At 18th Jan 2012, Elizabeth Cudd wrote:Can you please give credence to family life - no wonder kids suffer traumas, you are just proving that fathers can disappear and leave their children - bring Ricky back show the country a proper, even if it is dysfunctional, family. David Wicks and Carol - forgiveness and true love, really would have been nice, they are good and can act - for the first time I am finding the programme depressing and frustrating, you are losing the best actors and good story lines after Pat what were you thinking letting Ricky and David go!!!!
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Comment number 14.
At 18th Jan 2012, Dayna wrote:I really hate mandy and Ians relationship :S how can ian be so gullable...and mandy ruined bianca and rickys marriage that episode was heartbreaking:(
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At 18th Jan 2012, madelaine wrote:Yeah, I agree with Elizabeth Cudd's comment above. Why are you letting such good actors go? EE is the biggest soap around. I just don't believe that actors would turn down such jobs! I can't tell you how much EE misses David Wicks. There's so much scope to develop relationships/tension between him and Derck, Ian, Bianca and Ricky. It doesn't just have to be a Carol and David thing. Well done, EE, for pulling out all the stops for Pat's farewell (I do appreciate how hard you worked to get everyone on board) but let's maintain that calibre of acting and intensity. Pam St C's acting was out of this world. Davis and Carol's relationship was gripping. Hard to find elsewhere that purity of love over that time span, tenderness and vulnerability between 2 characters who so happen to act their socks off. Real class! I know that EE likes to portray reality, be hard hitting etc but EE, try not to fall into the trap of being too cynical. Their love clearly inspires many viewers. It's not realistic to portray life as being consistenly angry and bitter. It's simply not. Even if their realtionship survived, it doesn't have to be cosy. It can have lots of bumps along the way. Anyway, I appreciate that you left David's departure wide open (thanks for not killing him off). His motivation for leaving (just running away again or wanting to protect Carol) was ambiguous. He was messed up about burying his Mum (the last word he uttered), had had no time to grieve. Bianca could easily argue his case after that final conversation she has with him. She asked him an impossible question about whether he could guarantee her mum's happiness forever. Who can ever guarantee someone else's happiness forever? It's people's responsibility to look after themselves too, not just depend on someone else to make them happy. Bianca made her mum sound like such a victim (which strips someone of any sexiness or attraction, instead encouraging sympathy)- a daunting task for anyone to take on. Doesn't mean David doesn't love Carol. BRING HIM BACK, please.
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Comment number 16.
At 18th Jan 2012, Bigsmile76 wrote:A lot of people just say what I am thinking. Yeah, I agree, it is hard to believe how much Ian has changed with Mandy. Completely different person. Jane used to work for him for free, and Mandy gets all those expensive things off him. If a man is stingy and penny counting, he will be stingy with everyone. He does love Mandy, but that does not matter, didn`t he love Jane? Speaking of which, what Lucy did to her is more than nasty, but I don`t blame her. You come back home and there`s this woman spending your father`s money left, right and centre and telling you how he`s wrapped around her little finger - who wouldn`t be angry? Shame Lucy`s actions didn`t change a lot, just showed once again that Ian is a rubbish father. And yes, I agree, instead of taking Amira actress back, EE producers should have made much more effort to make good actors/actresses stay. For example, why Jay gets no story lines? The guy is talented, he can play everything - bitternes and anger, romance, humor etc. And yes, yes, 1000 times yes - David should have stayed!
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Comment number 17.
At 19th Jan 2012, Hottylou wrote:Haha both Afia and Lauren are dressed like Freddy Krueger
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At 19th Jan 2012, melissa wrote:The show is desperately missing David Wicks. EE, listen to your loyal viewers. Loved the old school East end gangster stuff between Branning boys and David. As for David and Carol- check out the number of hits on You tube. Kind of says it all, doesn't it! Why is everyone carrying on like he's public enemy number 1?Why is Bianca disowning her Dad now with Carol. Don't get it. She was the one who put all that doubt in his mind, in first place. surely, she could fight his corner for him, telling Carol how much in love David seemed to be with Carol. let Carol know that David was threatened with a knife on same day he buried his Mum. His head was totally messed up. Don't make Carol bitter. David loves her. there's still hope for them.
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Comment number 19.
At 19th Jan 2012, JRS2404 wrote:What is the name of the song that Fatboy was dancing to at the Masood's house in tonight's episode?
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Comment number 20.
At 19th Jan 2012, Rich wrote:Can I just ask a question? Is Manchester the ONLY place outside of Walford these days?! It seems that we have a whole country at the doorstep of London but the place that everyone seems to go to in Eastenders is Manchester. Now I know it's obvious to me and most of the rest of the UK that Auntie BEEB really has the hots for that northern city but surely the writers can be a tad more imaginative about where people come and go to / from???
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Comment number 21.
At 19th Jan 2012, Jack Munsey wrote:What do you think is going to happen Phil because he gets arrested. that will be a shame because he is my faviorate character in the square.
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At 20th Jan 2012, Bigsmile76 wrote:@ Pilky: I agree either Ben or Andrew will be involved in Heather`s death. Ben has turned into this nasty, bitter and angry coward and he hates his father and will do anything at all to make him suffer. And I think Andrew is a bit dodgy - for example, the way he is too keen on Heather, he obviously hides something from his past or even present, and has a bit of temper as well. A bit sad to see Heather leave, but I would leave as well if I was her, as a protest against what the writers are doing to her character (it started from when she had a baby with Darren).
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At 20th Jan 2012, Hets wrote:Wow. tonights episode made Ben look so evil. Phil now knows that Ben was stalking him and he got arrested AND it was his birthday! A lot happens in the square, huh? I think Tamwar should forgive Afia, I mean she is nothing like her dad at all, he should be happy that Afia cares about him.
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At 20th Jan 2012, Chloe wrote:I really hope Tamwar+Afia become happy again, would be devasted to see a happy couple throw everything away because of an EVIL man! And i think Ian need's to throw that little cheating idiot out.. a.k.a Mandy!! i hate her, she's such an idiot! she ruined a perfect relationship between Ricky+Bianca, and now shes not letting Ian and Lucy bond together again.. i dont blame lauren for a drinking.. well after all she had been put through i honestly cannot blame her, shes a GREAT actress! and Phil, ha! hes just an idiot.
-OMG, I'VE ALSO FOUND OUT A GREAT SPOILER! SO GUTTED I READ IT. I'm not going to tell you all though because i dont want to ruin it for everyone else, but OMG! lets just say.. another Actress is on there way out...
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At 21st Jan 2012, Serena wrote:Chloe, I know who you mean. I saw it on the Yahoo homepage!
Who would have thought Ben Mitchell would turn out to be a scheming, evil little scumbag?! I just wanted to punch his face in after tonight's episode!
I hope Tam and Afia sort things out!
Eugh...I HATE Mandy!!!! Act your age, woman, not your flamin' shoe size!!!
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Comment number 26.
At 21st Jan 2012, glorobuk2000 wrote:Have just watched the new Lucy. My daughter and I agree we need an interpreter. What language does she speak?
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At 22nd Jan 2012, gojosh wrote:yes i agree with tam n afi reconcilling because zainab is the fool adult who allowed everything to get to that horrible stage by hidding the truth to protect her fake reputation. she knew all about yusef evil doings n still covered them just to pretend to people all is well. masood had not laid a finger on her in their 30 years of marriage but will go to extreme to satisfy her,and what did she get from yusef? brutality n abuse, in view of this she doesn`t deserve him. I THEREFORE WANT JANE AND MASOOD TO BE HAPPY TOGETHER and let zainab remain a widow she is
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