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Bishop Millar suggests. (on his blog, see link above)

"If you would like to pray, please pray that, in this uncertain time, the Lord would reveal his hand."


Sorry about this Bishop, but I thought that the Lord had already done that; you know, Moses and the Prophets and then Jesus. There's something about the Son being the radiance of God's glory and the exact representation of his being, sustaining all things by his powerful hand. There isn't actually anything more to reveal - he's been there, said it and done it, but he got crucified instead of getting a t-shirt. However, as you know, this Jesus has been exalted to the highest place and before him every knee will one day bow, so when it comes to God's hand, it seems that the King is holding all the aces.

Peter thats a strange criticism to put to Harold Millar. He is an evangelical conservative christian who believes in the incarnation and believes the bible should determine our beliefs. When He prays for God's hand to be revealed, he obviously means that God would show the communion some direction. Theres nothing unbiblical about that prayer.

I don't know, PTL, I kind of liked Peter's comment.... worth thinking about.

Hi PTL

I sort of thought my comment might sail a bit close to the wind, as we say.

Here's where I coming from. Although I'm not an Anglican, I know Harold Millar is an evangelical and I know that he pretty much fits what we expect an evangelical to be. I have no gripe with that, nor with Bishop Millar in particular. And, while I don't have anything against prayer, and while it is most certainly biblical, what concerns me about the broad evangelical tradition of which I am a member, is that we too often resort to these 'spiritual' kind of comments and seek some sort of, let's face it, mystical guidance. This sort of thinking is prevalent in the evangelical sub-culture, but it fixes nothing. All we end up with is one set of people saying God's leading us this way and another set saying God's leading us that way, and on it goes.

Mr. Millar's comments were about being lost in a 'pea-souper without a compass'. All I'm saying is that somebody is already claiming to be the light of the world yet there's very little talk about him.

Read the other blog linked at the top. It's complaining about the fact that the planned three minute address at Evening Worship (I mean three minutes, who's got a concentration problem) over-ran to fifteen. Good grief, a fifteen minute sermon, mind-blowing!

I don't know about you PLT but too often I am inclined to make my own god in my own image, it's like the prayer book says, "We have followed too much the devices and desires of our own hearts."

The solution, well the solution has already been revealed, and the solution is always the same. And I need to be reminded of this as much as, and probably more than, everyone else. If however, my words were too flippant or harsh, apologies.

The Lord has revealed his hand - it's called the Catholic Church, no endless conferences on consecrating gays and dolls there.

Smasher- Many of us would consider that a step backwards by hundreds of years. ;)

Yes Smasher, the holy Catholic Church. Isn't that the one all christians belong to?

Smasher
"Do as you're told" is a solution?

G Veale

Smasher

The Holy Catholic church - in both its Roman and Anglican branches has never had any difficulty consecrating gay bishops - just so long as they were hypocrites willing to hide their sexuality from their flocks.

Bishop Roskam, probably correctly, suggests there are bishops at the conference who beat their wives - I would go on to suggest that Gene Robinson is far from the only gay bishop at Canterbury this week and that he could probably fill a disco with his fellows if he were in Rome.