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The Caveman cometh (75)

Paris - A phenomenon sweeping across France will reach a new peak in Paris on Friday.

With the country on tenterhooks for the do-or-die World Cup clash with Ireland, the man they call 鈥淟鈥橦omme des Cavernes鈥 (The Caveman) will rumble into the Stade de France with millions roaring him on around the country.

, the shaggy-haired, bearded behemoth beloved of Sale fans, has belatedly found fame and popularity in his own country.

His image is everywhere, on television, publicity posters, newspapers. He even has his own puppet in France鈥檚 version of , 鈥淟es Guignols de l鈥檌nfo鈥.

Before the tournament Chabal declared that France was armed with 鈥30 鈥 as they pursued a triumph on home soil to rival that of their footballers in

And just as that football World Cup cemented Zidane鈥檚 cult status in France, Chabal is certainly the face of this to date as far as the hosts are concerned.

A newspaper poll before the action started found was the most popular French player, but that has all changed in the last fortnight.

Sebastien Chabal

As one headline here this week put it: 鈥淩ien n鈥檃rrete la chabalmania鈥 (Nothing can stop Chabal mania)

It is a remarkable transformation for a player of monstrous power who has never been a regular in the French side despite his 33 caps since 2000, and who was booed off the pitch during a Test against two years ago.

Chabal鈥檚 cult status started to spread in June on a tour to , where France鈥檚 second-string side was twice thrashed by the All Blacks.

Chabal鈥檚 thumping hit on left the All Blacks flanker in a daze one week, while the next he broke the jaw of as the lock tried to tackle him. The two incidents are big hitters, so to speak, on YouTube.

That impression of a force of nature was heightened last month, when he bludgeoned his way through two English tacklers to score a winning try at .

In France鈥檚 opening World Cup match against, Chabal鈥檚 appearance on the touchline as he prepared to come on as a replacement for vice-captain Fabien Pelous after an hour instantly galvanised the crowd.

On that occasion, despite a couple of charges, he was unable to rescue his side.

But the television pictures of the France squad getting down to work again in the days that followed all focused on the muscular frame of Chabal 鈥 doing sit-ups, on an exercise bike, sprinting, jumping, boxing.

He was duly named in the starting line-up for France鈥檚 second game against in Toulouse, in a team that included eight players.

But when the line-ups were announced in the stadium beforehand, no player got a louder cheer than Chabal.

Ironic, perhaps, since they were the club he wanted to join when he left Bourgoin-Jallieu in 2004, but the aristocrats of French rugby showed no interest at that time.

When they did try to tempt him back to France in late 2005, he was part of a side on their way to winning the English Premiership that season and instead opted to extend his stay on the outskirts of Manchester until 2009.

Chabal, who grew up in Valence, south of Lyon, was known as 鈥淭he Anaethetist鈥 in France because of his tackling, but at Sale he is nicknamed 鈥溾 鈥 to distinguish him from fellow Frenchman Sebastien Bruno.

Sharks fans wear T-shirts bearing Chabal鈥檚 face over a skull and crossbones with the slogan 鈥溾 (after a song by George Thorogood and the Destroyers).

Sebastien Chabal fans

In the stands of Toulouse鈥檚 Stadium Municipal last Sunday, members of his were easy to spot 鈥 dressed in masks with long black hair and shaggy black beards.

Each time he ran with the ball, a 鈥淗ouuuuuuu!鈥 reverberated around the stadium, and nine minutes into the second half, he ploughed over for a popular try.

But five minutes later, he brought the house down with a second score that cemented his cult status, picking up a pass just inside his own half, accelerating between three Namibians, and then holding off two more tacklers before scoring in the right corner.

It has since been referred to as 鈥-esque鈥, although sceptics might argue the 14-man Namibian defence was already stretched by that point.

The commentator on French TV, beside himself with excitement, bellowed 鈥淚l est enorme!鈥 (He is immense!) over and over again, punctuated by gasps of 鈥淨uelle puissance!鈥(What power!)

When he was replaced shortly afterwards by Pelous, a stalwart of the Toulouse club, the commentator felt the need to explain that the rapturous ovation 鈥渨as for Chabal, not for Pelous鈥. Chabal in turn applauded the crowd long and hard, bathing in the warmth of their affection.

The next day, every French newspaper carried his picture on their front page.

French people I have spoken to compare him to , another Frenchman whose explosive nature and taste for the spectacular so endeared him to fans when he ignited the most successful period in their history.

Chabal, who like Cantona, and latterly , has seen his career flourish in England after leaving France, also appears to share some of Cantona鈥檚 idiosyncrasies.

At a media conference last week, he was asked if he could take a question in English. He replied, in English, 鈥淣o, we are in France, so we speak French鈥 before standing up and ending the session there and then.

He is also popular with the ladies. As one told me: 鈥淗e needs to get his hair cut, and his beard. But yes, he is sexy鈥.

Chabal is refusing to talk about his burgeoning popularity, and with it his cult grows.

France coach Bernard Laporte


For a long time France coach Bernard Laporte seemed indifferent to his qualities, either leaving him on the bench, or using him at flanker rather than his club position of number eight, on the few occasions he did pick him from the start.

But for this World Cup he has reinvented Chabal, who only started playing rugby at 16 when he left his job as a mechanic, as a lock, where he will start against Ireland.

鈥淚f something is happening around Sebastien, it is because he is performing on the field,鈥 Laporte said. 鈥淗e gives confidence to others. We don鈥檛 take any notice of publicity. We have selected him for his speed and his explosivness.鈥

Look out . The Caveman is coming your way.

Bryn Palmer is the 主播大秀 Sport website鈥檚 rugby union editor.


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  • 1.
  • At 12:12 AM on 21 Sep 2007,
  • kc wrote:

It speaks volumes that french rugbys newest hero is a second row forward part time number eight part time blind side ,the mecurial french the joy of watching les bleus break from their 22 forwards and backs interpassing with such ease free flowing beautiful rugby .Chabal lives on the edge of every law ever invented in the game and mostly transgresses those laws ,the caveman certainly did not cometh in croke park where neil best made sure the caveman returneth from whence he cometh at a rate of knots .No jauzion BOD will have fun ,reddan to shine ,only concern why duffy ,no murphy or carney .
Our greatest glory is not in never falling but in rising every time we fall.
Confucius

  • 2.
  • At 12:19 AM on 21 Sep 2007,
  • Batchi wrote:

Chabal, it's Olivier Merle with a beard and long hair. Though Chabal knows how to pass or protect his ball (Merle had some issues there). French people had the same type of admiration for Olivier who was roughly 2 meter high for a good 130 kg. Merle, tagged "Le Massif Central" after the mountainous area in central France, was also nicknamed "l'homme et demi", "the one and a half man" by the New Zealanders.

The bottom line is that French people like powerfull and tall forwards that can go through four players before being stopped. These players are fun to watch, espcially when they look like barbarians.

Olivier Merle: 45 International caps
1993 to 1997
2nd Line, 1.98m for 130kg


  • 3.
  • At 12:22 AM on 21 Sep 2007,
  • medibot wrote:

Finally the French have cottoned onto the power and brilliance of a cult hero and it's effects on the fans and the team.

From the hair bear bunch in Wales to Monty Panesar in the England Cricket team and even as far as my own teams Ryan "Patsy" Palmer, a cult player can give a focus to support however well the team is doing and add an element of fun that can be invaluable.

The fact that Chabal is an excellent rugby player and an eccentric chap just add to the appeal.

Long live the caveman!

  • 4.
  • At 01:48 AM on 21 Sep 2007,
  • SimonP wrote:

While it may have taken a while for him to be trusted in a France shirt, his impact ahs always been known in club rugby.
Probably the seminal moment of Munster's succesful Heineken Cup campaign was the night against Sale when the whole team went out to take down Chabal, especially driving him back from kick-off.
Perhaps it will take that sort of target to finally fire up O'Connell and the Irish team again - let's hope so.
Chabal is a superstar!!

  • 5.
  • At 02:15 AM on 21 Sep 2007,
  • RossMcC wrote:

When Sale came to Munster 2 years ago, Chabal was seen as the figurehead for the best forward pack in European club rugby. He was targeted so ferociously and effectively it led to a 31-9 Sale loss. The danger with a personality who鈥檚 cult status can disproportionately lift a team is that the opposite can happen. Nullify their marquee players and French can quickly loose their structure, the Pumas proved this only days ago. France lauded their return to form with their 87-10 Namibia win, a very questionable achievement against 14 man opposition for 60 minutes. The foul on Chabal which led to the red card should be credited equally to his impression of a man who had been shot, as the stray Namibian forearm. This is a game Ireland is more than capable of winning despite our recent form. GO HARD BOYS!!!!!

  • 6.
  • At 02:24 AM on 21 Sep 2007,
  • NomadMatt wrote:

Not a flanker.
Nor a lock.
And the second best #8 on Les Bleus.
Yes he is a physical presence on both sides of the ball. He can cause significant disruption in close quarters.
But when it comes to smart playing--much needed on the international test circuit--he is lacking. In the Argentina match, he deomstrated this clearly: a significant jolt in momentum (moreso for the crowd) yet failed to make good decisions.
If Les Bleus are losing to Ireland late in the game, and Chabal is replaced by Pelous and they somehow win, imagine what status Pelous would attain.

  • 7.
  • At 03:59 AM on 21 Sep 2007,
  • Caveman wrote:

Kc, wouldn't have said he lived on the edge of many rugby laws. A fair player, just brutal with his strength. Maybe a couple of seasons ago he was picked on by Refs in the Guinness Premiership for no just reason.

  • 8.
  • At 04:39 AM on 21 Sep 2007,
  • Mike Buckley wrote:

Overblown hype for an average player. Watch him closely tonight....he is a confidence player. At Croke Park in February the Irish pack pushed him backwards for the first 2 or 3 times he had the ball. His head dropped then and he was relatively mute for the rest of the game before being replaced. This is not the sign of a great player. A great player rises to the challenge. The same will happen tonight...O'Connell, O'Callaghan, Leamy and Easterby will be chomping at the bit for the first tackle on him....then watch him fade out for the rest of the game.

  • 9.
  • At 05:09 AM on 21 Sep 2007,
  • Bonux wrote:

Chabal is not overated at Sale and he has never been first choice in the French Team, but when you see how quick he can be for a player that size, I am glad we have him on our side.

The danger of having a player like that is for the other players to sit on their ass, watch and wait for something good or bad to happen. Chabal needs support just like any players worldwide. Put any of the All Blacks player in an average team and you would surely call them overated.

The fact is: rugby is a team game... with a few interesting individuals.

Having said that you have to love the guy for his rough but humble approach of the game.

  • 10.
  • At 06:03 AM on 21 Sep 2007,
  • Mikey wrote:

This has come about because France desperately need a hero. I'll feel sorry for the Caveman when (not too far from now) it all comes crashing down around them. He never asked for the fame after all. I love the image though - he sure made an impressive figure in NZ widening his eyes and poking out his tongue in response to the All Black haka - accompanied by only a French B-team! I thought he would get slaughtered but look at the carnage he caused. (Carl Hayman also has a similar image and fan-base, though not quite so fanatical. When he went clean-shaven a movement started up called 'Hayman's beard' which successfully convinced him to grow it back.

  • 11.
  • At 07:13 AM on 21 Sep 2007,
  • wrote:

Chabal has a presence, like him or loath him, you can't ignore him.

For me, he has a similar sort of presence to Dallaglio.

The man is not invulnerable though. He clashed with Alex King at Adams Park, a big collision - we assumed King would get the worse end of that arrangement. It was Chabal who left the field on a stretcher.

I'm looking forward to the next time Wasps play Sale, purely to see Chabal play (but hopefully not win!)

  • 12.
  • At 07:49 AM on 21 Sep 2007,
  • phildog wrote:

Remember Croke Park. Chabal roamed around for 20 minutes in his pomp and then Best got hold of him. No more Chabal and France went to sleep for 59 minutes. I was delighted he is in the team. Best news for Ireland all week.

  • 13.
  • At 08:21 AM on 21 Sep 2007,
  • Aido wrote:

Post 5

Couldn't agree more, he fielded a restart that game and the munster pack drove him back a good 30 yards.

He was quiet as a mouse thereafter. I fully expect more of the same treatment tonight. Ireland by 2 points, keep the faith lads!!!

  • 14.
  • At 08:35 AM on 21 Sep 2007,
  • phil quinn wrote:

bigggg chabal!

  • 15.
  • At 08:44 AM on 21 Sep 2007,
  • Anonymous wrote:

Interesting comments. He`s a good player but question mark over fitness?
I saw that hit on Masoe (NZ) as it happened and it really put the wind up the kiwis for a bit until they won about 80-nil! It was a BIG hit though!

  • 16.
  • At 08:54 AM on 21 Sep 2007,
  • Wee man wrote:

Chabal is so easy to cool off. A few times driven backwards, he goes into his shell and doesn't normally emerge until he's on the bench. He is an immense character, but singe his beard a few times and he'll be replaced to a chorus of boos from the 'easy to turn' French support.

I just hope in concentrating on closing down Chabal, we don't forget the other dangerous forwards in Betsen and co.
Twill be a great match, but i think after tonight, all that will be left of the memory of the caveman will be a few cave drawings from those mad artists on the touchline. What is that all about anyway??

  • 17.
  • At 08:56 AM on 21 Sep 2007,
  • Brian Murphy wrote:

People forget fairly quickly when Chabal was talked up so much before Sale came to Thomond Park and Munster demolished him........check out youtube link......

  • 18.
  • At 09:06 AM on 21 Sep 2007,
  • Matt Davies wrote:

who one the game at Croke park....?Best did a great job......

  • 19.
  • At 09:10 AM on 21 Sep 2007,
  • Matt Davies wrote:

Who won the game at Croke park...? More of the same and the Irish will lose again.
Confidence plays a big part in games. France have got it back by beating a bad team convincinly, Ireland have lost it all by winning badly against two teams they should have thrashed. France will win the game, the best Ireland can hope for is a losing bonus point and then to beat Argentina, I can't see that happening either, but the Argies will be tired because of their unfair draw. France by 20.

  • 20.
  • At 09:10 AM on 21 Sep 2007,
  • Richard wrote:

One should remind the "caveman" of the munster/sale match last year when at the kickoff paul O'Conell and Co drove him back to the sale 10 metre line - he wimped out of the rest of the match and was replaced - c'mon the Irish!!!

  • 21.
  • At 09:11 AM on 21 Sep 2007,
  • wrote:

Agree with Micke Buckley. I haven't seem him play at club level, but I think he is overrated at the Test Match level. You may agree that you can't ignore him, true his is quite a presence. But put him against good and fearless tacklers and he will be brought down 9 out 10 times. When he came in for the opening game, the first thing he tried to do was to run over the Pumas players and go through them a la The Sandman. The outcome? Contempomi duly brought him down. He even got tackled and stopped by the winger Borges who is one the smallest in the Pumas! (the fact that I am an Argie does not bias my analysis, just watch him against good tacklers). The lack of brains and technique he compensates by using his sheer power. But in my opinion, that does not make you a world-class player and he will not be, unless he becomes a try-scoring machine (he won't). It's good to have a guy fancied by the fans and media but that's about it. Cult hero? Maybe for the French, but the top teams shouldn't have a huge problem controlling him. Anyway, as for today match, I don't know who to root for. I fancy an Irish win cos that would inmediately qualify us, but then the all-important clash for the top spot would find the Irish with massive confident. On the other hand, the French winning without any team getting any bonus point would put us in a good position in case of an eventual tie. I hate the attitude of the French players (specially after their defeat to the Pumas) and I liked the rugby played by Ireland earlier this year. My idea: play the French like at Crooke Park and then rest all your team against us!

  • 22.
  • At 09:33 AM on 21 Sep 2007,
  • Eire Abu wrote:

COME ON IRELAND!!!!!! AGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHH

  • 23.
  • At 09:33 AM on 21 Sep 2007,
  • Chuck wrote:

Chabal is a ferocious player and one that you'd like on your team if he was playing well. However, like many here, he is a form player and if you nullify his threat then he tends to shirk away. In that respect, he is every bit like Thierry 'Goes Missing In Big Games' Henry.

The thing that amazes me about the much lauded jaw break on Ali Williams is he loses the ball when he gets tackled! The All Blacks turn it over and make a break. And if you look closely, I think it's Chabal's leg that kicks it into New Zealands arms... Great stuff, nice one, top work.

However, despite all of this, I'm bricking it about tonight. If he starts well then we're in trouble. Get to him early and we might be able to sneak it - some of this early on would be nice

Clips from the aforementioned Munster vs Sale at Thomand Park in the 05/06 Heineken Cup.

  • 24.
  • At 09:34 AM on 21 Sep 2007,
  • yednnek wrote:

Most of the posts here are right, Chabal is a brute, but an effective one.
He provides Ireland with a target though and that may be just the thing to wake our slumbering pack.
O'Connell and O'Callaghan aren't weak up fornt, they just haven't applied themselves well. Tonight we'll see that change.
If they can stem Chabal and co. up front I am confident O'Driscoll, O'Gara and Horgan will do the business in the backs.
It will be a tight one and I ope we can edge it.

  • 25.
  • At 09:41 AM on 21 Sep 2007,
  • sean lake wrote:

The pressure is on the french, focus on one player, he plays bad, the french crowd get on his back and the rest of the team fall in a heap.
Ireland in a way are under no pressure.
No one thinks they will come within an asses roar of the french. But remember Thomand Park that faithful Januray night.,when Caveman was put put back in his cave by a Red mob, Sale fell apart and the rest is history. What I would give for a the same to happen tonight!!

  • 26.
  • At 09:44 AM on 21 Sep 2007,
  • Robbie wrote:

Absolutley no fear in Dublin about the caveman. Bring it on!! Let's see him break the game line against the Irish defence.

  • 27.
  • At 09:58 AM on 21 Sep 2007,
  • lool wrote:

go on chabal i luv u lol:P

  • 28.
  • At 09:59 AM on 21 Sep 2007,
  • Bloom wrote:

Chabal was also effectively neutered at the Ospreys this season, who managed to beat Sale quite comfortably. You cannot build your game around one man, and Ireland should not turn all their attention on Chabal because there are fourteen other players quite willing to exploit the gaps.

And as for anyone fancying an Irish win tonight - have you seen Ireland play recently?!

  • 29.
  • At 09:59 AM on 21 Sep 2007,
  • BOB wrote:

any team with chabal on will give them a confdence boost he is so big and has such a prescens that you as a abck will feel protected and not afraid to take a takle i think that the irish have not performed the world cup for many resonse and i dont think they are strong enough to win unless players like shane hogan o'dricol and o'gara play to the best of their abilitys and they get rid of stringer playing and scrum half

  • 30.
  • At 10:17 AM on 21 Sep 2007,
  • darran mather wrote:

wouldn't last 5 minutes in League!!

  • 31.
  • At 10:32 AM on 21 Sep 2007,
  • wrote:

Chabal has been terribly mis-used by Laporte, it is to his credit that he is excelling out of position for Les Bleus. To my mind he is the best ball carrier in world rugby, and should be a shoe in at 8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWacpi_C0Zg).

That the Irishmen have two examples they can draw hope from is great for them. But they are getting as carried away with their "Chabal is easy" banter as they did with their "we're going to win the world cup" nonsense before reality brought them back down to earth. Don't get me wrong, Ireland are a top team with some top players. But for an Irishman to talk of another rugby team or player as over-hyped seems a tad rich.

Munster beat a Sale side unused to Heinekin Cup rugby, at Thomond Park, who had already qualified for the knock out rounds and had spent the first ten minutes with 14 men. To pin it to Chabal is nuts, Jason White, his partner in the back row and hardly the shy retiring type also failed to stem Munster. Does this prove that when the going gets tough the Scotsman chucks in the towel!

And sorry Seb, but it's just not right that any good tackler will stop him. Abendon and LEWSEY fell off him at Twickenham. And down in New Zealand he repeatedly made yards from nothing with ball in hand against Jack, before breaking Williams jaw on the charge. Either of those guys qualify as poor tacklers?

My moneys on Chabal and the French tonight. But heh, the boys in green will always have the memory of Best's hit on him at Croke right!


  • 32.
  • At 10:33 AM on 21 Sep 2007,
  • Lottie wrote:

*Rolls eyes* I find it rather amusing that people seem to think that being able to nullify the man by sticking a whole pack on him makes him overrated! Yeah, Munster had the better of us at TP and they sorted our Seabass. (Different story at EP though I seem to remember...) Yep, he probably didn't have the best of games in the 6N. But, er, since Ireland needs a plan to deal with him, doesn't that make him a great player? If he were as overrated as you're saying here, you'd ignore him and just get on with it.

The gentleman who questioned his fitness is probably right, indeed this is the reason Laporte gave for leaving him out in the past. He does end up on the wing for a breather quite a lot. But I wouldn't swap him for the world!

  • 33.
  • At 10:37 AM on 21 Sep 2007,
  • Nicholas Morgan wrote:

Yes you're right, the gentle Englishmen are fine rugby connoisseurs and have been admiring Chabal for a long time while the silly French aristocrats have been farting in his general direction. But now hey, every French newspaper has him on the cover while the sports commentators are drooling over his sight!

A fine piece of journalism sir, I tip my hat off to you.

  • 34.
  • At 10:44 AM on 21 Sep 2007,
  • Aido wrote:

Post 31

Remind me again how ex-League darling Andy Farrell has lit up this world cup.......

  • 35.
  • At 11:01 AM on 21 Sep 2007,
  • erno wrote:

As some of the earlier comments point out: the Irish do have a player that can "break" Chabal: Neil Best. Interestingly enough this same player, with his ferocious tackling, also clearly brings the same level of agression and energy into the match as Chabal. For this reason he seems to have the same cult following in Ulster where he plays.
However, for some very, very strange reason, once again he will start on the bench today.

  • 36.
  • At 11:03 AM on 21 Sep 2007,
  • Skittross wrote:

Christ the Irish are clutching at straws.

6 forwards driving one bloke back in a club game a few years ago?

Watch the vid, Chabal had no-one behind him and with the better part of the entire Munster pack driving him back he was only ever going to go one way.

But if it makes the Irish feel good, then yes, Munster tackled him once and so the game is in the bag.

  • 37.
  • At 11:03 AM on 21 Sep 2007,
  • Tom Lewis wrote:

I think that the nickname- "Bad Jesus"is rather more appropriate that "Caveman"

  • 38.
  • At 11:26 AM on 21 Sep 2007,
  • Munsterman wrote:

Lottie,

Oh dear, EP a breakaway try and the "Mighty Sale" scraped over the line.
TP and the "Champions" were outplayed,outthought and outfought in every aspect of the game- it was almost embarassing so complete was our dominance.
Lets not get confused petal.

  • 39.
  • At 11:37 AM on 21 Sep 2007,
  • Mark wrote:

Yes, Neil Best nullified Seabass to the point that Ireland won the game at Croke Park.

Oh wait...

  • 40.
  • At 11:41 AM on 21 Sep 2007,
  • Mike Buckley wrote:

Post 32....perhaps you need some reminding. Go to the top of this blog and read the article. It's about how he has become some sort of talisman for the French team. If the Irish nullify him tonight they should silence the crowd and get the French team collectively on the back foot. There are plenty of more talented footballers in the French team but he's the one the crowd will latch on to...hence the targeting. And it's hardly a "great plan" to push the guy backwards...that's rugby for god's sake. Nothing to do with considering him any sort of great talent.
p.s. Ireland to win by 5 points tonight. Pride is at stake.....the biggest motivating factor of all for any Irish rugby team :o)

  • 41.
  • At 11:41 AM on 21 Sep 2007,
  • Ben wrote:

Darren Mather.

Rugby League is the WWE of field sports. All hype and big hitting but no substance. It makes American Football look clever. That is why noone cares about it.

  • 42.
  • At 11:50 AM on 21 Sep 2007,
  • Marcus wrote:

When you have to target a player, others come open. When Munster beat Sale and Seabass was driven back, the real question was "where was the Sale pack in support?". Was it not the sale pack that was demorilised by a talisman being over-turned (see Dayglo being dumped by sale in the playoff semi final).

What most people dont watch is the number of hits Chabal takes whilst trying to steal ball - bent right over being hit in the back at full speed does make you slow to get up. But as 2nd row, maybe he'll be in the position to do some clearing out. Whatever his impact over 80 mins, there is no denying the extra something he can bring to games.

  • 43.
  • At 11:55 AM on 21 Sep 2007,
  • Etienne wrote:

Chabal surely is a good player and contributes well to the French performance, but I think Ireland has a bigger problem to worry about than Chabal as an individual. France has a fantastic team over all and are looking to pick them selfs up after the Argentina blooper. I'm sure we going to see a great performance by France and yes, Chabal will be in there causing a few problems for the Irish. Allez les blues!!!

  • 44.
  • At 12:06 PM on 21 Sep 2007,
  • Rory wrote:

Never mind chabal. We have POC and BOD!

  • 45.
  • At 12:19 PM on 21 Sep 2007,
  • wrote:

The Hobo is still a work in progress, and like any proper Frenchman he can just not turn up on a given day. However, his try against England would seem to indicate he's not just a flat-track bully.

See some of his best bits accumulated here:

  • 46.
  • At 12:23 PM on 21 Sep 2007,
  • Iain wrote:

The 鈥淗ouuuuuuu!鈥 bit is the French crowd taking the ****. It comes from adverts for Charal beef. Chabal/Charal, geddit. You need to get to the end of the ad hear the primal houuummm.

  • 47.
  • At 12:30 PM on 21 Sep 2007,
  • Wee man wrote:

Irish Win, no question!
France lose, no answer!!!!!

  • 48.
  • At 12:34 PM on 21 Sep 2007,
  • Rory wrote:

In defiance to what has become a very sorry situation of infighting amongst between the home nations' fans.

As a Scotsman, common Ireland lets see you rip up the french and cause a few tears in Paris...(absolutely no offence to the French)

The same goes for Wales and, well, oh b8gger it, common England too. I am tired of this constant moaning of each others teams.

Really hoping the boys in green provide the goods tonight..

(NB this support will be reassessed should we meet you in the QF's - but would really like to see you there.)

  • 49.
  • At 12:36 PM on 21 Sep 2007,
  • RoryC wrote:

Common Ireland. Lets see you in the QFs.

In complete defiance to this constant infighting between home nations fans, as a Scotsman I will be really hoping for an awesome Ireland win tonight.

My Irish mate Paul had me up at 4.00 am in the morning in Brussels at the last world cup to watch Ireland vs. Argentina. (We/ he got the clocks going back wrong, he thought they went forward) I was just really happy to be there and lend a voice to Irish support. Funnily, enough he lent his support to Scotland who played France straight after.

Same goes for Wales and England.

ITS TIME FOR THE "HOME BOYS" TO TURN IT UP A NOTCH!!

  • 50.
  • At 01:24 PM on 21 Sep 2007,
  • Keith wrote:

Chabal > Ireland

It's not a caveman, it's the second coming.

  • 51.
  • At 02:20 PM on 21 Sep 2007,
  • Tom wrote:

Chabel has a pretty poor record against Irish teams, he is a good player but Ireland have to beat France, he is a small part of that. As long as Ireland play to their strength's they can win, over analyzing the opposition is a waste of time.

  • 52.
  • At 02:20 PM on 21 Sep 2007,
  • anysparechange wrote:

rory C,

more of this home nations fraternal sentiment please. we can take the piss out of each other sure, but lets support each other against Johnny Foreigner, wot wot.

contrary to popular belief, not all scots love to watch england suffer, well maybe at football just to watch Ian Wright whine, wince and generally make everyone question why he is on TV. also, I promise I was supporting england against SA. I, in turn, hope we enjoy english support against the All Blacks, we'll need everything we can get!

hopefully we can all qualify and silence the loud mouth southern hemisphere fans and give them something to think about. it's only the group stages after all and world champions england didn't look too hot at this stage last time round...

OK maybe a home side won't win it this year but all the home nations going to the dogs chat is premature.

don't you just love rugby?

  • 53.
  • At 02:25 PM on 21 Sep 2007,
  • peter wrote:

poc doc will get him agen

  • 54.
  • At 02:36 PM on 21 Sep 2007,
  • Ollie wrote:

I'm not sure why people are going on and on and ON about Munster's pack driving back Chabal.

Wow! Eight players drive back one! Shock news!
So that leaves odds of 14 against 7. I think Chabal and France would happily take those.

And for all the mention of Croke Park? You're forgetting the one vital statistic. Ireland LOST to France there.

  • 55.
  • At 02:45 PM on 21 Sep 2007,
  • Tom Newbury wrote:

Yeah cool man !!!

=D

  • 56.
  • At 02:56 PM on 21 Sep 2007,
  • Tom Lewis wrote:

Bad Jesus all the way!

  • 57.
  • At 02:58 PM on 21 Sep 2007,
  • DAVE wrote:

This Chabal couldn't lace Fa'asavalu's boots.
As for comment 35 Farrell was bought by RU with knees shot to bits after many seasons lighting up the RL fields of this country. None of the present English RU squad could light up a game of tiddly winks let alone a world cup rugby game. As for comment 42 rugby union cares very much about rugby league . It is RL that has shown RU what it means to be a spectator sport only the penny has not dropped with ERU and its followers who still think they watch a sport that matters, but it certainly has with ABs.

  • 58.
  • At 03:04 PM on 21 Sep 2007,
  • tom wrote:

The 3 most common causes of death in France are:

1) Heart Disease
2) Chabal
3) Cancer

  • 59.
  • At 03:43 PM on 21 Sep 2007,
  • Brian wrote:

Just a few points

- When Chabal does a pushup, he isn't lifting himself up; he's pushing
the Earth down.

-When the Bogeyman goes to sleep every night, he checks his closet for
Chabal.

-Chabal's hand is the only hand that can beat a Royal Flush.

-Chabal gave Mona Lisa that smile.

-Chabal can slam a revolving door.

-Some kids p*ss their name in the snow. Chabal can p*ss his name into concrete.

-Chabal's tears cure cancer. Too bad he has never cried. Ever.

-Superman owns a pair of Chabal's pyjamas.

-Once a cobra bit Chabal's leg. After five days of excruciating pain,
the cobra died.

  • 60.
  • At 03:49 PM on 21 Sep 2007,
  • Brian wrote:

I also forgot to mention

-Chabal once devoured a whole wheel-barrow full of clay to prove to a
friend that the expression "Sh**ing bricks" wasn't just a figure of speech.

  • 61.
  • At 03:54 PM on 21 Sep 2007,
  • Burley88 wrote:

ollie - if u take the biggest man out of the game the rest will follow.

all the irish need to do is close him down quick like they did in the infamous munster game.

  • 62.
  • At 04:35 PM on 21 Sep 2007,
  • Malcolm (Edinburgh) wrote:

Just a point re 6 Nations Croker game.... Apparently Chabal was nothing in that game - and I agree, he wasn't at his best - but bottom line? France still won.

My point? Even if Chabal doesn't play to his best, France still have more than enough to beat an Irish side which, unlike Monsieur Chabal, is over-rated.

  • 63.
  • At 04:48 PM on 21 Sep 2007,
  • laney wrote:

at best a "utility" player, at worst a novelty for the press to play with. anybody ever read the tale of the kings new clothes? we're seeing the movie !

  • 64.
  • At 04:51 PM on 21 Sep 2007,
  • mwallis wrote:

re comment #7:

Chabal may be a very impressive ball carrier, but fair? Ask Steve Tandy and James Hook (HC, Jan 07; one of the worst tempered games I've seen since John Olver faced Graham Dawe at the Rec an epoch ago). He is a thug - a player who, like Grewcock or Cockbain, does not need to be hit first. My kids (11 and 3) love him!

  • 65.
  • At 04:52 PM on 21 Sep 2007,
  • tom wrote:

The only man ever to out smart Chabal was Stephan Hawkins. He got what he deserved.

  • 66.
  • At 05:14 PM on 21 Sep 2007,
  • CF wrote:

Tonights match isnt over until its over. The merchants of doom have already written Ireland off... lets wait and see what happens.

As for France, their world cup is effectively over anyway, because if you do the math, they are still going to come second in the group if they win tonight. And that my friends leaves them with a date with the All Blacks. Let there be no doubt, the French are doomed regardless!!!

  • 67.
  • At 06:08 PM on 21 Sep 2007,
  • Diego Suarez wrote:

France is making the same mistake as New Zealand with Lomu. The game is much more than just run over your opponents.

  • 68.
  • At 07:29 PM on 21 Sep 2007,
  • James Brenchley wrote:

I believe that the cave man is the best lock in the world of he can still maintain a great season into a world cup shows the greatness of the player.
There is no other player in the world cup has played and performed as the cave man has

  • 69.
  • At 07:48 PM on 21 Sep 2007,
  • Jimme wrote:

Well lads, lets just wait and see.
I think the French have to prove what they are worth, with or without "Chaba". If he has a bad day it might all go terribly wrong. If Ireland sticks to their guns, I give them a good change.

  • 70.
  • At 08:39 PM on 21 Sep 2007,
  • Ollie wrote:

Burley88

If the Irish spend too much time shutting down Chabal, then the other 14 Frenchmen will run riot. The French are very much NOT a one man side.

  • 71.
  • At 09:46 PM on 21 Sep 2007,
  • Jimme wrote:

Well I guess I was wrong.
Sorry to see them go.

  • 72.
  • At 10:19 PM on 21 Sep 2007,
  • asas wrote:

All the talk about Munster player driving chabal 30 metres, will not appear anymore. As always they will now all blame Eddie O sullivan. Never to admit they are not good enough but finding excuses..................

  • 73.
  • At 02:01 AM on 22 Sep 2007,
  • Rod wrote:

Go the French!!! Go the Walabies!!!! Lets see another Wallabies/French Grand final. This time the Wallabies will take the All Blacks in the semis and enter the grand final the under dogs. It will be the greatest world cup for both countries. And if the French win, the Australians will partake in the celebrations. Two committed hard working teams who play with their hearts.

Go the French!!! Go the Walabies!!!!

  • 74.
  • At 06:07 AM on 23 Sep 2007,
  • Mike Buckley wrote:

Asas....(or is that "an Ass"?). You are sooooo right. Absolutely nothing constructive, relevant or insightful from you of course....just that Ireland are "not good enough". You must be a "real" rugby fan alright.

  • 75.
  • At 10:10 AM on 24 Sep 2007,
  • liliana wrote:

he is the greatest rugby player in the world!media shuld pay some respect to this natural Force!Debastien is a great human and the best in rugby.i am proud that i live in the same time whit him. i love you for all that you are!

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