Ask Bearders # 157
Welcome to Ask Bearders, where statistician Bill Frindall answers your questions on all things cricket.
Below are Bill's responses to some of your questions posed at the end of his last column and if you have a question for Bill, leave it at the end of this blog entry. Please do include your country of residence - Bill loves to hear where all his correspondents are posting from.
Bill isn't able to answer all of your questions, however. 主播大秀 Sport staff will choose a selection of them and send them to Bearders for him to answer.
Q: Here is a challenge for cricket's record keepers: how many runs, give or take a few, have been scored in first-class and Test cricket in the entire history of the game? The aggregate of runs must run into the millions for the first-class game. Similarly, how many wickets all time in first-class and Test cricket? Chris Thomas
Bearders' Answer: The tallies in Test cricket are currently 6,663 innings, 1,788,539 runs (including 105,306 extras) and 56,393 wickets.
I am indebted to Philip Bailey, guru of Cricket Archive and the Association of Cricket Statisticians and Historians, for number-crunching the aggregates from just over 50,000 first-class matches (including Tests). Runs have just passed 39 million, while wickets are approaching one and a half million.
Q: The international career of Fred Spofforth for Australia is easily obtained but I am interested to know how he fared in the county game for, I believe, Derbyshire and maybe Surrey. Neil Spofforth
Bearders' Answer: Having ended his first-class career in 1897, The Demon did appear for Derbyshire in six non-first-class matches in 1889 (1), 1890 (4) and 1891 (1). He represented no other county. His best performances for Derbyshire were 3-34 (off 26 overs) and 6-42 against the 1890 Australians and
9-56 against Leicestershire later that season.
Q: I recall reading that the highest two innings victory on record was something like an innings and 800 runs. Can you confirm the details or was I dreaming? Please don't tell me it was an England Test result. Paul Blacknell
Bearders' Answer: No, Paul, England's largest margin of defeat is an innings and 332 runs by Australia at Brisbane in 1946-47. In fact England holds the record for the greatest winning innings margin in Test cricket: an innings and 579 runs against Australia in Hutton's Test at The Oval in 1938.
The world first-class record that you have recalled was an innings and 851 runs inflicted by Pakistan Railways (910-6 declared) against Dera Ismail Khan (32 and 27) at the Railways Moghalpura Institute Ground in Lahore on 2-4 December 1964.
Q: When a wide ball goes to the boundary the score goes up by five runs. Has this always been the case or was it previously just four?
Also, if a batsman hits a no-ball for four, am I correct in assuming that the batsman is credited with four runs, with the no-ball going in the extras' column? How is this shown in the bowler's column? Barrie Darby
Bearders' Answer: Until a new Code of Laws was introduced in 2000, a boundary wide counted only four runs; now the penalty run is added, all five runs being recorded as wides.
Yes, a boundary hit off a no-ball is recorded as four runs to the batsman and one to no-ball extras.
Q: In the famous NatWest final of 1993, Warwickshire v Sussex, who did Martin Speight hit for the first six of the day over the bowler's head into the pavilion, which acted as a catalyst for the high scoring? It was either Tim Munton or Gladstone Small, but they were definitely bowling from the pavilion end. It was mine and my friend's first trip to Lords (aged 11) and is always a point of disagreement when reminiscing on what was a staggering game. For the record I am sure it was Tim who was dispatched, as 'Gladys' was trying to bowl leg cutters going down the slope. Tom Goodley
Bearders' Answer: My scoresheets confirm that Speight's only six was indeed hit off Munton bowling from the Pavilion End. It came off the third ball of the 10th over (Munton's fifth) and took Speight from 26 to 32 at 11.14am. Speight went on to score 50 off 51 balls, hitting eight fours besides that six. Only one other six was hit in the entire match, by D.M. (David) Smith, as Sussex scored 321-6 off their 60 overs. Warwickshire gained a sensational five-wicket win off the final ball of their 60th over at 7.36pm.
Q: What time did the famous Gillette Cup semi-final between Lancashire and Gloucestershire actually end? How many runs did David Hughes score off the penultimate over? Steve Smout
Bearders' Answer: I wasn't at Old Trafford on 28 July 1971 but 'Wisden' records that the match, having begun at 11am and being delayed by rain for an hour at lunch, ended at 8.50pm. Hughes scored 24 (2 sixes, 2 fours and 2 twos) of John Mortimore's 11th over to level the scores. Jack Bond scored the winning run off the fifth ball of the next over (the 57th) bowled by Mike Procter. Lancashire, the holders, went on to beat Kent by 24 runs in the Lord's Final.
Q: Has any wicket-keeper ever made 1000 first-class dismissals? Thomas, England
Bearders' Answer: A grand total of 24 glovemen have reached that tally, Thomas. You will find the complete list in Wisden Cricketer's Almanack and the Playfair Cricket Annual. It is headed by R.W. (Bob) Taylor of Derbyshire and England whose 1,649 dismissals (1,473 caught, 176 stumped) were made between 1960 and 1988. The most by a current keeper is 888 by Paul Nixon of Leicestershire and Kent.
Q: What is the highest Test score ever made by a South African batsman in England? Taushulu Freedom Aluteni
Bearders' Answer: Graeme Smith's 277 at Edgbaston in 2003 is the highest individual score for South Africa against England in either country. He batted for 541 minutes, faced 373 balls and hit 35 fours. It was his first innings against England and remains the highest Test score against all opposition for South Africa.
Q: My Dad, playing for a local village side, once took wickets with both of his last two balls of a season. He then missed the entire next season due to injury before returning a couple of months into the next season and taking a wicket with his first ball - completing a fairly long-winded hat-trick of sorts. Do you know of any similarly long-winded hat-tricks or other bowling feats? Rick De'Laglio
Bearders' Answer: No, I do not. Your Dad's triple strike is probably unique. Of course, hat-tricks can only be claimed within the same match - not within the same lifetime! It would take a player with Geoffrey Boycott's supreme dedication to personal records to even notice that he had achieved such a feat.
Q: I know that Andrew Symonds can bowl both off-spin and medium-paced deliveries, and also that Malcolm Nash used to do the same (or at least experimented with spin against Garfield Sobers). I was just wondering if you could think of a time when a player managed to take wickets in a match with two different types of delivery. Alistair McLagan, England
Bearders' Answer: I should think it has occurred a great many times. The obvious example is Gary Sobers who frequently took wickets by swinging the new ball late before reverting to two types of left-arm spin. More recently, Australia's Colin Miller would often switch between medium-fast swing and off-spin during an innings.
Q: In a five-Test series, who holds the records for the most runs, most hundreds, most wickets, most dismissals and most catches as a fielder? As for the bowlers, I think that Colin Croft's 33 wickets against Pakistan in 1977 was the most but I'm sure you will correct me. Thanks. Keith O. Brown (Jamaican by birth), Germany
Bearders' Answer: The series records are: most runs - 974 by D.G. (Don) Bradman for Australia v England in 1930; most hundreds - five by C.L. (Clyde) Walcott for West Indies v Australia in 1954-55; most wickets - 49 by S.F. (Sydney) Barnes for England v South Africa in just four Tests in 1913-14 (Malcolm Marshall holds the West Indies record with 35 v England in 1988 - Croft's 33 is their equal-third highest); most wicket-keeping dismissals - 28 by R.W. (Rodney) Marsh for Australia v England in 1982-83; most catches as a fielder - 15 by J.M. (Jack) Gregory for Australia v England in 1920-21.
Q: I would like to know the smallest fourth innings target where the batting team were all out and lost the Test match. I know that in the famous 1882 match between Australia and England, the English had a target of 85 and fell eight runs short. Has anyone missed a smaller target? Marc (Canada)
Bearders' Answer: No, Australia's lead of 84 is the lowest ever defended in a Test, England being dismissed for 77. There have been 17 Test match totals under 150 that have been defended, the only other one below 100 being 98 by West Indies at Port-of-Spain in 1999-2000 when they bowled Zimbabwe out for 63.
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Wilfred Rhodes batted at number 11 and opened for England during his long career, but did he manage every spot in between? Has anyone achieved this feat in Tests? I imagine several night-watchmen have batted at 3 through 11 but they don't often get a chance to open. If there are several contenders, who has the best average?
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What are the highest scores at the fall of each wicket in first-class cricket? I guess 561 is the answer for wicket 1, and 1107 for wicket 10, but what about in between?
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I would be interested to know what if the highest amount of wickets taken by one bowler firstly in any One Day match, and secondly in an ODI. And has there ever been a case where a player has taken 6 or more wickets and hit a hundred? Thanks.
James Roscow, England
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Dear Bill
Has there ever been any test match where there has been more than one hat trick?
Thanks
Ian
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Hi Bill, in the history of the game, has a wicketkeeper ever taken off the gloves to bowl? I would assume the other way round has happened (bowler becoming a stand-in wicketkeeper, probably due to injury)?
many thanks
Keith (Canada)
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Dear Bill
On recently reading about the 1981 England tour of the West Indies, I noticed that there were five Yorkshire CCC players in the touring party. In one of the first class matches, played against the Leeward Islands, all five Yorkshiremen were in the England XI. Is this a record for the number of cricketers from one county playing for England in a representative match?
Yours sincerely
Matthew Ryder
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Dear Bill,
When Michael Vaughan returned as skipper for the home series vs the Windies, he had an 18-month break after captaining the team to an innings defeat in Pakistan. Is this a record? If so what is the second longest gap in Test cricket history when a captain has returned as captain?
Also I think Vaughan has not been Man-of-the-Match in a single match among the 23 wins for England under him. Is this a record as well? What is the 'next' best for this record?
Thanks
Sundaram KR
India
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when was the first Man of the Match awarded in a Test match and the corrosponding award in First Class cricket? When did the awarding of Man of the Match become common place?
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Among players who have made more than 1000 runs in One-day Internationals, Shahid Afridi must be holding the record for the highest strike rate . I am wondering who has the lowest strike rate among them? Geoffrey Boycott, perhaps?
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Question 5 - KEITH
30 'keepers have bowled in Tests, but only 10 have ever taken wickets
please see the answer i gave in Blog 156 answer number 108 or see
for the full list
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James (3):
Paul Collingwood took 6 for 30-something and scored a century for England against Bangladesh at Trent Bridge in 2005. I think that's the only occasion in ODIs.
Chaminda Vaas once took 8-19 against Zimbabwe, which is the only eight-for in an ODI.
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Sundaram (7)
I'm not sure of the last day of Bobby Simpson's initial tenure as Australian Test captain - but I'm confident it was quite a few years before he returned to the side as captain on 2 December 1977 against India, at the height of the World Series Cricket period.
Cheers
Dave, London
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re question 2, I am wondering whether the recent Pura Cup final in March 2006 features in the list: Queensland beat Victoria by an innings and 354 runs after scoring 900-6 dec, and I know at one point at the fall of the fourth wicket was at 878, although I think Shane Watson retired hurt along the way?
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Dave (12) : Thanks for the response. I should've added a rider to my poser as well. In the interim period did Bobby Simpson never play even a single Test match / 3-day tour match / 3-day county game like Vaughan did? (or rather didn't?)
Thanks
Sundaram KR
India
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After David Sales messed up Northants run chase in the final Pro40 match vs Essex at Wantage Road where he needed to score just 3 runs from the final over and in fact 1 run from the last three balls and didn't (condeming Northants to the play-off and ultimately relegation to division two) has there been any other 'chokers' in the List A or ODI cricket by being unable to score so few runs to win a match off the final over or two? I remember a classic C&G or B&H semi a few years ago when Andrew Hall I believe took a hat-trick in the final over as Worcs beat Lancs by one or two runs.
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Dear Bill,
Bit of a strange one this. You will recall I'm sure the final moments of the 2005 Old Trafford Ashes Test as Lee and Mcgrath were saving the game lee was looking to take the strike for the last over. He hit Flintoff's last ball towards the boundary and was hoping it would stop short of the rope so he could run a single, instead the ball reached the boundary. However if it had stopped short would it have been within the rules of the game for a chasing english fielder to (rather unsportingly) kick or throw the ball to or over the rope producing a boundary and therefore keeping Lee off strike for the next over or would such an action be deemed overthrows? Similarly, in a different match situation, if a chasing fielder recognises that the batsmen are turning for a fifth run and he doesn't have time to get the ball to the keeper for a run out could he kick/throw the ball into the boundary thus saving one run? I suppose my question is when is an overthrow an overthrow?
Cheers,
Ed
Kenya
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Does the Butcher family hold the record for the most first-class cricketers within a family? I believe that five Butchers (Alan, Martin, Ian, Mark and Gary) played. Is this correct? And who is the equivalent Test record held by? Is it Chappells and Richardsons?
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Was this year at The Oval the latest the County Championship has ever been decided? And where does Lancashire's chase come on the list of highest fourth innings totals?
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How much time can a bowler can take for his runup?
I was playing agianst a team and they had a bowler that almost took one min to bowl every bowl. His run up was like this: He will come forward and then slightly go backward and then come forward(kind of moon walking).Its pretty hard to explain. i hope i had a video of that but anyways he would do that for a almost a minute.
It is very hard to concentrate when u bat. You have to wait for a long time for the delivery to come and u can see him doing his runup. So is there any time limit for the bowler for his runup or if the run up was wrong. Any rules regarding this.
USA
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Here is a tedious one. What is the highest individual score in a test innings that comprised solely of singles?
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Answer to (1). Ray, Rhodes did indeed bat at every position from 1 to 11. The first to do this way Syd Gregory, and I think Vinoo Mankad also did it - I'm not sure about the last one thought. I know three people have done it, and Rhodes and Gregory are definately there.
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Answer to (1) and (7).
From my research, Bob Simpson does hold the record regarding the gap between a player captaining a Test side.
Simpson played his last Test before returning in 1977 in the 4th Test against India at the SCG in January, 1968, however he was not captain of the team - Bill Lawry had been promoted.
His last Test as captain was in the same series - 2nd Test -v- India, MCG, December 1967.
Simpson was recalled to captain the side following the WSC split. He lead the team in the 1st Test -v- India at The Gabba in December, 1977, almost exactly 10 years to the day after he last lead Australia.
AJ Traicois holds the overall gap, though for differenct teams. He played for South Africa in 1970, then again for Zimbabwe in 1992, about five months short of 22 years.
The only person that comes close to Simpson that I can find is the Nawab of Pataudi Snr. He played for England in 1934 (I think), and captained the initial Indian team in 1947, a period of about 12 years or so. He did not, however, ever captain England in a Test as far as I can tell.
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Answer to (14). Sundaram, when simpson retired from Test cricket in late 67 - early 69, he played a few more Sheffield Shield (First Class) matches, the last being in February 1968 (NSW -V- Western Australia). He then played a number of matches for a team called the International Cavaliers, the last being in 1969. I don't know if these were First Class or not, however.
Simpson did not play any high level cricket from 1969 until November 1977, but from my memory (although I was only a young boy at the time) he continued to play Club cricket in Sydney.
Simpson played two Sheffield Shield matches from November 1977 before returning to captain the Australia team for the India series.
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Just an question mark over my first answer regarding bob Simpson. I'm not 100% sure that AJ Traicos played for both South Africa and Zimbabwe. It might only have been for South Africa.
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Asking from Spain. We know the leading test batting averages well enough. Are there records of the amount of runs scored while a batsman was batting - i.e. would there be any major differences to the order of runs getters to partnership makers?
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Answer to 16 - Ed - Law 19 Boundaries states -
If the boundary results either from an overthrow or from the wilful act of a fielder the runs scored shall be
...........
.....(ii) the allowance for the boundary
and (iii) the runs completed by the batsmen, together with the run in progress if they have crossed at the instant of the throw or act.
Thus in your Brett Lee example, he would have been credited with 5 runs and retained the strike.
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Last summer I remember Ian Botham (as he was then) criticising Rikki Clarke on commentary for attempting to bowl off-spin in a pro 40 match (I think). Am I correct in remembering a certain I.T.Botham bowling off-spin in an ODI in the eighties, if pushed I would say it would have been in 1982 against Pakistan.
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What is the most consecutive maidens bowled by anyone. If i am correct in saying that Ian Bell once bowled 5 maidens in a row against a Pakistan A team? But i am sure this has been beaten? If so who by?
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When I was a youngster I remember watching a match which involved a double run-out. When I told my 'friends' about this they laughed me out of their house. Am I just imagining this happened Bearders?!
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The Warwickshire and England all-rounder Alex Loudon recently retired from professional cricket to pursue a career in the city. In his only appearance for his country he was run out without facing a ball, having been in the middle for no more than a minute.
Assuming Mr Loudon doesn't make an unlikely comeback to professional cricket, is this a unique record?
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I remember Ian Botham bowling some very dodgy off spin in a Lord's test against Sri Lanka in 1991, I think. I'm sure that he took wickets bowling pace as well. I recollect it only because the test was on TV at the time my first son was born and was a welcome distraction during a prolonged labour for my wife. Is my memory as dodgy as Both's off spin?
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When batsmen attempt to run two runs, but one fails to ground their bat, 'one short' is recorded and just one run scored. How short can you be and still claim one run? Can batsmen run a tactical one short? For example, when trying to keep strike at the start of an over, the batsmen could meet in the middle - just crossing - and then turn around and run back and claim one run while keeping the main batsman on strike. Has this ever been done in first class cricket?
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Thanks for the responses to my queries in (7) and (14). It appears in summary, that other players HAVE PLAYED some kind of 3-day cricket in the gap between captaincies; so Vaughan might've set some kind of record.
My other query on his singular lack of MOM awards in 23 England wins under his captaincy remains unanswered though. I have a feeling that Vaughan's so-called captaincy skills might be over-rated, and a better, consistent batsman might help the team win more games against quality opposition.
Cheers
Sundaram KR
India
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Hi Bill,
I was wondering if you could settle an argument for me. I have just moved back from the US and was playing my last match for my cricket team in New Jersey against the historic Philadelphia Cricket Club and I was keeping and whipped off the bails to stump someone and was told by the umpire that he was not out because his foot was ON the line. My understanding of the rule was that if a batsmen was on the line, then they were out. Was I right to feel more than a little aggrieved?
If you could settle this argument once and for all, I would be grateful.
Thanks,
Gavin Buck
London (previously Hoboken, NJ, USA)
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Regarding Dave's question in No. 29, only one batsman can be out from a single delivery. If the fielding side run a batsman out, the ball is dead and they cannot then run out the other batsman as well. You don't say what level of match this was, so it could have been a case of dodgy umpiring! I'm sure it's never happened in a first-class game.
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question 28 JAMES
the world record in Tests is by India's Bapoo Nadkarni, who bowled 21 consecutive maidens against England at Madras in 1964, finishing the game innings with figures of 32-27-5-0
question 34 GAVIN
from Law 29
"A batsman shall be considered to be out of his ground unless his bat or some part of his person is grounded behind the popping crease at that end."
Behind the crease indicates that on the line is OUT of his ground, so you are right
question 32 PHIL
if the umpire feels the run was deliberately short he returns the batsmen to their original ends, see law 18 pt 5
"5. Deliberate short runs
(a)...if either umpire considers that either or both batsmen deliberately run short at his end, the following procedure shall be adopted.
(i) The umpire concerned shall, when the ball is dead, warn the batsmen that the practice is unfair, indicate that this is a first and final warning and inform the other umpire of what has occurred. This warning shall continue to apply throughout the innings. The umpire shall so inform each incoming batsman.
(ii) The batsmen shall return to their original ends...."
for more on both the above see
question 30 ALEX
well at least Loudon got to bowl, 6 overs i think, i always feel sorry for (and secretly maybe a little jealous of) Frederick Hyland
okay he never played test cricket, but he did play county cricket
...well 1 game
...well as his side was fielding (Hampshire) and the game was rained off after 2 overs, he may not even have touched the ball (he certainly didn't bowl) in his entire career
...but at least he PLAYED first class cricket...imagine the stories!
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Hi Bill
I have seen plenty of matches where all batsmen have got into double figures but was wondering what the highest low score in an innings has been.
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As a Yorkshireman, I would like to think thatYorkshire has provided the England cricket team with more players than any other county, however it would be interesting to see a list of the number of players selected for England from each county, especialluy if Lancashire are somewhat lower down the list.
Thanks, A Yorkshireman living in Australia.
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Is Sydney Barnes' bowling average of 16.43 a record among bowlers who have played more than 25 tests and taken more than 150 wickets? In other words, is it a bowling record?
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question 39 PRASHANT
yes Sydney Barnes does have the best average for more than 25 tests/150 wkts
the next 4 would be
AK Davidson 20.53
MD Marshall 20.95
J Garner 20.98
CEL Ambrose 20.99
there are several bowlers with 25+ Tests and averages between Davidson and Barnes but they didn't take 150 wkts
also above Barnes there are 4 better averages but they played in less than 25 Tests (but took at least 50 wkts)
they are (with ave/tests/wkts)
GA Lohmann 10.76/18/112
JJ Ferris 12.70/9/61
W Barnes 15.55/21/51
W Bates 16.42/15/50
(all english!)
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#19 - there is no specific time limit that aplies to the completion of an over, or the time between deliveries. However the umpires have a general power under Law 42 to intervene in the case of time-wasting, and eventually to impose 5 run penalties after warnings.
Most competitions have target over-rates that must be kept (ie X overs/hour) If these are not kept, there may be penalties laid out in the Regulations of the specific competition.
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to answer greg purnell, the test match u are thinking of was in 1984.
botham switched to bowling off spin midway through sri lanka's 2nd innings. from memory he definitely got 1 wicket, maybe even 2.
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What is the highest number of wickets taken with consecutive deliveries in either a Test or First Class match? I remember hearing of Shaun Pollock taking 4 wickets in 4 balls in a County game - is this the record?
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An injured batsman is striking and batting with a runner. He sets off for a run as do both his batting partner and runner. The striker's end wicket is broken with both injured batsman and his partner short of their ground. Are both injured batsman and batting partner out?
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Has a delivery ever knocked all three stumps out of the ground??
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I'm sure I've seen this somewhere, but would like to know what percentage of runs have been scored from boundaries (and if possible broken down by 1,2,3,4,6) at Test, ODI, and international 20/20 level. Thanks.
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question 44 MATT
if an injured striker leaves his ground he can be run out, even if the "runner" is in, so in your case it would depend which of the batsmen, striker or non striker, was closer to the wicket that was put down, the closer batsman being out
see law 2 pt 8
...(c) When a batsman with a runner is striker he remains himself subject to the Laws and will be liable to the penalties that any infringement of them demands.
Additionally, if he is out of his ground when the wicket is put down at the wicket-keeper's end, he will be out in the circumstances of Law 38 (Run out) or Law 39 (Stumped) irrespective of the position of the non-striker or of the runner...
it is impossible for BOTH striker and non-striker to be out at the same time
question 45 HARVEY
i sure it has but proof is hard to come by, however i found this clip of a club match where all 3 stumps come out of the ground
the closest i could find in professional cricket is this
where 2 go flying and the third stump is almost knocked over...i'm sure there is an example but i got sidetracked into watching wasim bowling, sorry
question 46 CHARLES
okay this isn't exactly what you wanted but its a start;
% runs in boundaries in each country (ODIs since 2000)
Total runs Boundary runs Percentage
India 30,994 14,790 47.72
New Z 25,983 12,036 46.32
SA 49,296 22,600 45.85
England 30,308 13,836 45.65
Bang 17,943 8146 45.40
Pakistan 20,328 9110 44.82
Zimbabwe 26,670 11,648 43.67
Sharjah 18,649 7510 40.27
WestI 20,920 8384 40.08
Sri Lanka 32,704 12,986 39.71
Australia 46,878 17,792 37.95
also here are similar figures, but for countries rather than IN countries, for the latest world cup, but also broken down into 4s and 6s
(halfway down the page)
AUS lead this with 52.40%
hope thats a start someone else can add to
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If we ignore Bangla Desh and Zimbabwe, as also Kenya,Ireland,Scotland,Bermuda,Canada etc. who will have the distinction of highest # of runs scored and centuries scored in test matches ..
same for ODI's.
Which bowler would come to the top
in wickets.
Would there be a revised top 5 list
for batsmen and bowlers.
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Does Younis Ahmed hold gap between Test appearences. He appeared in october 69 then was droped until febuary 87.
Is this a record.
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Bill, During a recent club match for my club Cleethorpes we lost two batsmen in the same delivery.
One batsman smashed the ball against the non-striker's arm, was caught at mid-on and caused the retirement (hurt) of his partner.
Are there any other examples, at higher levels, of such a fluke??????
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Who has the longest time between dismissals?
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Dear Bill,
just a couple of quick ones here
- who is the shortest test cricketer in history and how tall was he?
- who was the last person recorded as timed out?
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A bowler runs in and bowls and the batsman sets off for a quick single but the ball is caught very low by a fielder. The fielder is uncertain whether he collected the ball cleanly so he throws the ball and hits the stumps with batsman out of his ground.
The replay shows that it is a clean catch but as the fielding side has to appeal to gain a wicket would this scenario result in a catch or a runout?
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Question 53:
The field only need to appeal once, the umpire(s) will then decide - (after consultation, probably) if the catch was a fair one( was the delivery fair, did the batsman hit the ball with his bat or hand holding the bat,did the ball reach the fielder without hitting the ground first and did the fielder gain full control of the ball) if it was then on appeal the batman will be out caught as that takes precedence over the run-out also the ball is dead at the fall of the wicket so the run-out didn't happen. The batsman could only be out run-out if the catch was not made fairly.
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What is the highest score made by (a) Both sides batting both times (b) a side batting both times ina Test match/First class match ?
e.g. Is there any instance of 400 being passed in all four innings of a test match, or perhaps 450 being passed twice by a side in both its innings ?
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Which County side played the most matches before recording their first victory in first-class cricket?
Ben
Wales
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question 55 HUW
For TESTS
the 3 highest aggregate scores are
1981 SA (530&481) vs ENG (316&654/6) Famous "timeless" test in 1939
1815 WI (286&408/5)vs ENG (849&272/9) in1930
1764 AUS (533&339/9) vs WI (276&616) in 1969
in recent time the test AUS (474&357/6) vs IND (705/7&211/2) in 2004 garnered 1747 runs
I think there are 7 cases of the same team scoring 400 twice in one match, the highest being Pakistan vs India in Faisalabab in 2006, Pakinstan scoring 588 & 490 for 8 dec...a total of 1078 (they drew the game India scoring 603 and 23)
as far as i know no test match has had 4 innings of 400 runs
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actually as an extra to that last answer 400 has only been scored 13 times in the 4th innings
of these 13 the closest to having 400 four times was ENG (496&365/8dec) vs AUS (458&404/3) in 1948, AUS winning
this match fell just 35 short in the 3rd innings, but that was declared
there are infact 18 test matches with aggregate scores higher than 1600, however none have 4 innings of 400 or more
but it is possible that in the 1844 tests played to date one has 3 innings of 400 and one of more than 365 (but in total less than 1600) however I don't have patience to trawl through them all, sorry
as an extra you might like to know that the 2nd of jan 2004 would have been a good day for you to watch cricket as 2 games started that day BOTH ending with more than 1600 runs (aus v ind as above and SA vs WI 1648 runs)
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in recent years the amount of money paid for TV rights and test match attendance has been affected by rain.
Whilst the pitch area can be covered the infield outside the pitch and the outfield are not protected. Are there any statistics to show which games were lost to the elements affecting the uncovered infield and outfield and an indication of what this likely cost monetarily in lost TV and ground revenues ?
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Q- in recent years the amount of money paid for TV rights and test match attendance has been affected by rain.
Whilst the pitch area can be covered the infield outside the pitch and the outfield are not protected. Are there any statistics to show which games were lost to the elements affecting the uncovered infield and outfield and an indication of what this likely cost monetarily in lost TV and ground revenues ?
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Dear Bill
One of the links from the 'Stump-Destroyer' video, posted in the thread, had a link to a video of Andy Flower being stumped off a wide delivery from Tendulkar. Watching this reminded me of an question I'd been wondering about previously. Suppose the scores at the end of a match are tied and the batting side have lost 9 wickets. The bowler bowls a wide, but the batsman on strike, going for the ball, misses it and is stumped whilst out of his crease. Under the circumstances, is the batsman out and the fielding side have won, or does the wide count and the batting side win?
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Can I just say in reply to 'thomas mc shefrey' that I think Bill's beard looks most distinguished and not clownish in the slightest.
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Bill,
What is the lowest follow-on score in first class cricket( 2,3,4 or 5 days) that a team has enforced and subsequently gone on to win a match without being required to bat a second time?
Also what is the highest enforced follow-on where the team enforcing the follow-on has been required to bat again and lost?
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#50 by Martin Twyman, longest interval between Test appearances :
The longest interval is 22 years and 222 days between John Traicos' last appearance for South Africa in 1969/70 and the first appearance for Zimbabwe in 1992/3. Younis (17 years, 111 days) comes third after George Gunn's 17 years and 316 days.
Martin Bicknell missed 114 Tests between his England appearances in 1993 and 2003. Younis who missed 104 Tests comes second in this respect.
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question 61 C CHRISTMAS
the wide counts first, so the game ends with a batting side win, the stumping does not count as the game is over
from law 25 part 5
5. Penalty for a Wide
A penalty of one run shall be awarded instantly on the call of Wide ball.
see
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Hi Bill,
My Grandfather was a cricketer with Worcestershire from the late 30's to the early 50's. My dad showed me an autograph book with many of the players from all county teams from the '48 season. In the book it also had the autographs from the invincibles team including Don Bradman and the '49 West indies touring team including Everton weekes. I was amazed he had it and obviously I wondered if it would be worth anything?
Jon
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question 61 C CHRISTMAS
this question has been asked and answered many time previously, however again the answer is the batting side win, as the wide counts immediately, therefore they win before the stumping can actually take place
see law 25 part 5
Penalty for a Wide
A penalty of one run shall be awarded instantly on the call of Wide ball.
and law 21 part 6
Winning hit or extras
(a) As soon as a result is reached, ..., the match is at an end. Nothing that happens thereafter, ... , shall be regarded as part of it.
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Tim Gill (2) - obviously you're correct about the first and tenth wickets; Victoria's record innings also takes the record for eighth and ninth wickets (1043 and 1046 respectively). The record for the second wicket I'm fairly certain is 615, in the course of Sri Lanka's Test record 952/6 - Marvan Atapattu was out with the score on 39 but then Sanath Jayasuriya and Roshan Mahanama added a then-record 576. The third I'm not sure of but I think it's the one that broke their record: 638, of which Jayawardene and Sangakkara added 624. As Allister (13) mentions, the fourth wicket record is 878 by Queensland in the recent Pura Cup final. The fifth goes back to Sri Lanka's record total - 921, after Aravinda de Silva went in for a bit of overkill, adding a century of his own to Jayasuriya and Mahanam's efforts. Hyderabad vs Andhra at Secunderabad in 1993-94, the only first-class innings to include three double centuries, takes the record for the sixth (941), and Victoria's other four figure total, 1059 against Tasmania, the seventh (956). I think Tamil Nadu vs Goa at Panaji in 1988-89 must set a record for most runs scored after the fall of a particular wicket: they recovered from 35/3 and 260/5 to post 912/6 dec.
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David Q.25 : Asking from Spain. We know the leading test batting averages well enough. Are there records of the amount of runs scored while a batsman was batting - i.e. would there be any major differences to the order of runs getters to partnership makers?
The Test record is in the name of Len Hutton who opened the England innings at Oval 1938 and was the sixth man out at 770. Lara was around only for 718 and 584 runs during his 400* and 375; Hayden 735, Jayawardene 752 and Sobers 703 during their biggest innings
The first class record is 850 by MV Sridhar in the Hyderabad v Andhra match mentioned in #67. He went in at 1/30 and out at 5/880 and scored 366.
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#6 by Matthew Ryder most players from the same county in a team :
Mr Frindall had answered the same question in this column before but can't find it. Nottinghamshire had six men in the England team in a Test match in 1886/87.
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Regarding Wilfred Rhodes -- (1; Ron Ashley).
Here is an unusual bit of info regarding W.Rhodes. He played his last test in 1926. He made his test debut in 1899 -- three years before the captain and three other players in the 1926 team were born.
Regards,
Rajan
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Answer to (44). Matt, it would depend on whether the batsman (and runner) crossed. If they did, then the player running towards the broken wicket would be out. If not, the person closest to the broken wicket is out. As an aside, a batsman with a runner can be given run out if either is out of their ground. That is, if the batsman is in his ground, but the runner out, he is out and vice verca.
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Ian Blowers (4) - only one, and they were by the same player: Jimmy Matthews, for Australia vs South Africa in the Triangular Tournament of 1912. The same batsman, Tommy Ward, was the third victim in both innings.
Keith (5) - as others have mentioned, there have been plenty of instances of wicket-keepers bowling; I only know of one occasion on which the opposite happened (although I can't swear that there aren't others that I've missed) - in West Indies' first (and only) innings in the fourth Test against South Africa at St John's in 2005, Mark Boucher took off the gloves to have a bowl and handed them to AB de Villiers, who had already bowled 21 overs in the innings himself (and taken 2/49).
Stuart (8) - Man of the Match awards have been in place in List A one day matches and ODIs since they began - respectively Lancashire vs Leicestershire in the preliminary round of the Gillette Cup in 1963, when Peter Marner won the award, and Australia vs England in 1970-71, when it went to John Edrich; since then they have been awarded in almost every ODI and domestic cup match (they usually aren't in domestic leagues or friendlies). I'm not sure about Tests but I'd imagine that they came in fairly soon after ODIs; they're rarely given in domestic first-class matches, except in finals for those competitions which have them.
Mohamed (9) - you're correct that Shahid Afridi holds the record for the highest strike rate; in fact, with 5197 off 4732 balls for an average of 109.82, he's the only batsman to score over 1000 runs at more than a run per ball, although Lance Cairns (987 at 104.88) and Ian Smith (1061 at 99.43) come close. Haven't a clue who has the lowest.
David Buxton (15) - you've asked this before, and I answered with the South Africa vs England ODI in which South Africa needed three to win off six balls (it had been eight off the last over, before Mark Boucher hit a no ball for four) and tied, with the batsman stumped off the last ball being, coincidentally, Andrew Hall. In his most recent Cricinfo column, however, Steven Lynch gives one which beats both of these: Australia vs New Zealand at Hobart in 1990-91, when Australia needed two to win off the last over with Bruce Reid on strike. He failed to score off Chris Pringle's first five balls and was run out off the sixth.
Dav James (17) - you're correct that the Butchers have had five first-class cricketers, but the Mohammads managed six (brothers Hanif, Wazir, Sadiq, Mushtaq and Raees, and Hanif's son Shoaib), and the Pollocks either equal or beat that tally, depending on whether you include relations by marriage: Andrew Pollock, his sons Graeme and Peter, Graeme's sons Andrew and Anthony and Peter's son Shaun have all played first-class matches, as did Andrew senior's brother-in-law Robert Howden. Richardson and the Chappells make four Test cricketers, but the record is the Mohammads' five (of those named above, only Raees did not play Tests).
Dav again (18) - the first question was answered, in the affirmative, by Bearders in column 155. The highest fourth innings total to win a match is 513/9 by Central Province against Southern Province in a Sri Lankan domestic match in 2003-04, breaking a record which had stood for over a century. Lancashire's 464 is the 12th highest fourth innings total in a losing cause; the record is 604, by Maharashtra against Bombay at Pune in 1948-49 - they had been set 959 to win, probably itself a record for cautious captaincy! The same match holds the first-class aggregate record (2376).
Rajeev (19) - there isn't a limit specified, but this would be covered by law 42.9, "Time wasting by the fielding side":
It is unfair for any member of the fielding side to waste time.
(a) If the captain of the fielding side wastes time, or allows any member of his side to waste time, or if the progress of an over is unnecessarily slow, at the first instance the umpire shall call and signal Dead ball if necessary and
(i) warn the captain, and indicate that this is a first and final warning.
(ii) inform the other umpire and the batsmen of what has occurred.
(b) If there is any further waste of time in that innings, by any member of the fielding side, the umpire shall
either (i) if the waste of time is not during the course of an over, award 5 penalty runs to the batting side. See 17 below.
or (ii) if the waste of time is during the course of an over, when the ball is dead, direct the captain to take the bowler off forthwith. If applicable, the over shall be completed by another bowler, who shall neither have bowled the previous over nor be allowed to bowl the next over.
The bowler thus taken off shall not be allowed to bowl again in that innings.
(iii) inform the other umpire, the batsmen and, as soon as practicable, the captain of the batting side of what has occurred.
(iv) report the occurrence, with the other umpire, as soon as possible to the Executive of the fielding side and to any Governing Body responsible for the match, who shall take such action as is considered appropriate against the captain and team concerned.
David (25) - as Vidhya mentions in #68, the record for one innings is 850; the only other instances of more than 800 are by Bobby Abel (carried his bat through an innings of 811, scored 357*), Brian Lara (in at 8/1, still there at the declaration at 810/4, scored 501*) and Bill Ponsford (in at 200/3, out at 1001/8, scored 429). No idea what the record is for a career.
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Alex Holland (30) - there was one Australian player (can't remember his name) who was dismissed by the only ball he faced in Test cricket, and didn't bowl - the story is that his wife dropped her knitting and, in bending down to pick it up, missed his entire Test career. There have been a few instances of a player not batting, bowling or taking a catch in the course of a Test, but in all cases they got other chances. If I remember correctly, Jonathan Rice mentioned in Curiosities of Cricket a team consisting of players who "played" first-class cricket without batting, bowling or taking a catch - and nominated one as captain on the grounds that "not only did he not bat or bowl but he didn't field either".
Sundaram (33) - Vaughan's "feat", if you can call it that, is indeed a record; only eight players (Border, Taylor, Waugh, Ponting, Lloyd, Richards, Cronje, Fleming) have captained their country to more Test wins than Vaughan's 22 (not 23), and each of them was man of the match in at least one of them.
Steve (37) - the Test record is 12, in India's first innings against New Zealand at Dunedin in 1967-68; Bapu Nadkarni made the 12 and every other batsman scored at least 17. In first-class cricket the record is held by Yorkshire, in a County Championship match against Leicestershire in 1907, when the lowest score was 22. There have only been three other instances of every batsman reaching 20, with the lowest scores in those cases being 21, 21 and 20.
Ian Mac (43) - the match which you remember was a county one day game (in fact Pollock's county debut), but the feat has also been achieved numerous times in first-class cricket - most notably by Kevan James for Hampshire against the Indian touring team: the quarter he dismissed were all Test batsmen (Vikram Rathore, Sachin Tendulkar, Rahul Dravid and Sanjay Manjrekar), and he followed it up with 103 in Hampshire's reply; he remains the only player to take four wickets in consecutive balls and score a century in the same first-class match. No-one has taken more than four in succession; the records are five in six balls, six in nine and seven in eleven, by Pat Pocock in his last two overs for Surrey against Sussex at Eastbourne in 1972: W.W2.W/WWW1W. , with a run out off the final ball setting another record - the only instance in a first-class match of five wickets falling in an over. No-one has taken more than three wickets with consecutive balls in a Test - the only bowler to do so in any international match was Lasith Malinga, with four in four against South Africa in the last World Cup. There have been at least two instances of nine wickets in consecutive balls (including eight in one eight ball over) in minor matches.
Calvin sundial (48) - you hit something of a sore point here: Shane Warne once insinuated that Muttiah Muralitharan had picked up lots of easy wickets against Zimbabwe and Bangladesh - then when Warne got his chance to "pick up easy wickets" by playing a Test against Bangladesh for the first time, he finished with 0/112 off 20 overs. Oops! Sachin Tendulkar has made three Test centuries against each of Bangladesh and Zimbabwe, so if you discount those he goes down to 31. Brian Lara scored one against each of them, 32 against everyone else. Ricky Ponting also has one against each - although his century against Bangladesh doesn't deserve to be discounted since without it Australia would almost certainly have lost the match. Gavaskar and Bradman, of course, never played either (although it could be argued that South Africa and India in Bradman's day, and Sri Lanka in Gavaskar's, were hardly more testing opposition than Zimbabwe and Bangladesh nowadays), so the revised top five is Gavaskar (34), Lara (32), Ponting and Tendulkar (31 each), Bradman (29). I can't be bothered to faff around working out the exact figures for runs and wickets!
Vishal Narine (51) - I seem to remember that Jacques Kallis holds this particular record, batting for something like 1500 minutes in Tests between dismissals - I don't know the exact figure.
Den (52) - there has been no instance of a batsman being timed out in a Test; of the four in first-class cricket, the most recent was Andrew Harris for Nottingham against Durham University in 2003. As to your first question, I recall from a story told by Bearders of when he was asked whether Sunil Gavaskar or Gundappa Viswanath was the taller and resolved it by measuring them himself that Viswanath, at 5' 3 1/2'', was a quarter of an inch shorter than Gavaskar, but I'm sure there must have been some shorter than that.
Huw Chambers (55) - Ian's already answered your question fairly comprehensively for Tests, so I'll just deal with first-class matches. There's one instance in FC cricket of a team passing 650 in both innings, which also featured all four innings over 400: Maharashtra (651 and 714/8 dec.) vs Bombay (407 and 604) at Pune in 1948-49, the same match I mentioned in answer to Dav (18). The only match which approaches it was the Ranji Trophy final four years earlier, also involving Bombay, who scored 462 and 764 to Holkar's 360 and 492; that match is also second on the list of highest aggregates.
Paul (63) - it didn't involve the follow-on as New Zealand had batted first, but at Auckland in 1954-55 a first innings lead of 46 was sufficient for England to beat New Zealand by an innings, after bowling them out for 26, which remains the lowest total in a Test. At the other end of the scale, Trinidad took a first innings lead of 384 against Barbados at Bridgetown in 1926-27 - and still lost (Barbados 175 and 726/7 dec.; Trinidad 559 and 217). Only three teams, all Australian, have enforced the follow-on in a Test and gone on to lose it, with the highest first innings lead involved being 274 at Calcutta/Kolkota in 2000-01.
And a correction to my earlier post (67, answering Tim Gill): the answers I gave for the second and third wickets were wrong, although for the second only by three runs - the actual record is 618, by Delhi vs Himachal Pradesh at Delhi in 1994-95 (after an opening partnership of 464; they declared at 637/3). For the third it's 778, by Maharashtra vs Kathiawar at Pune in 1948-49 - BB Nimbalkar made 443*, adding 455 for the second wicket with KV Bhandarkar (205) then 242 for the third with SD Deodhar (93). The match was abandoned at 826/4 when Kathiawar refused to continue.
Request to "the 主播大秀 Sport staff who choose the selection to send to Bearders": could you possibly choose ones which haven't already been answered please? It makes the blog rather pointless if Bearders just replicates what's already been posted, and would enhance his reputation as omniscient on all matters pertaining to cricket records/statistics if he answers the ones that the rest of us have got stuck on.
Michael
(English but currently living in Strasbourg)
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in the just started series between Australia and Sri Lanka i noticed that jacques opened for the australians, i would have thought that as the more senior batsmen Hayden would have opened, is who opens decided on personal prefernce alone then? or is there something more to it?
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Dear Bill,
I have just noted that Tendulkar was out in the 2nd odi v Pakistan for 99. I believe this is the 3rd time this calendar year this has happened to the great man. Is this correct? Is it some sort of record in International Cricket?
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Re Michael Jones #72 & #73:
#8 : "Official" MOM awards were certainly around by 1975-76 West Indies
v Australia series but I have seen mentions of similar awards in match
reports from early 1970s. "Best batsman" and "best awards" have been
around even longer. The earliest that I can find in the scorecards in
CricketArchive are from West Indies in England 1966. Garry Sobers won
the "best batsman award" in three of the matches and won both the best
batsman and best bowler awards in one of the Tests. (This series is
better remembered for the debut of a certain bearded man !)
#17 : There are three sets of seven brothers who played first class
cricket - Fosters, Lytteltons and Rashids. Lytteltons are one of the
largest cricketing families
#30 : The Australian player was Roy Park. The only other ODI player to
have a similar record of batting once and getting out without facing a
ball is the New Zealander Gareth Hopkins. He played 5 ODIs, but the only
time that he batted was c WI at Lord's in 2004 where he scored a
zero-ball duck.
#51 was answered in Ask Bearders #149 ( See
). Chanderpaul's
1513 minutes is the record.
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#6 by Matthew Ryder - most players from the same county - was answered in Ask Frindall 153 - /blogs/tms/2007/08/ask_bearders_153_1.shtml
Vidhya, Chennai, India
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question 75 JEFF
yes, Tendulkar has indeed been out for 99 three times in 2007 in ODIs, first against SA, then ENG and finally PAK
he is in fact the only ODI player to be dismissed 3 times on 99, the next best (worst?) record is Jayasuriya, who was out twice on 99 (in different years)
in total 99 exactly has been scored 28 times, by 25 players, 7 of them scoring 99 Not Out
(out of interest Boycott was the first in 1980, Tendulkar being the last)
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C. Christmas reminded me of a game played a few years back in which I was the non-striker with one wicket left, one ball to face and one run to win when we successfully ran a bye to the wicket-keeper who was standing up and took the ball cleanly. In his excitement and seeing me charging towards him he whipped off the bails to run me out. The batsman on strike, however, had not left his ground so could not be stumped and then ran towards the bowler's end, I made my ground before the keeper could uproot a stump and he made it to the other end before the ball could be thrown there.
Any other similar instances where games have been won/lost/saved by flukes?
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Thanks for pointing those out Vidhya, I really should have remembered the Fosters.
Back to number 2, I'll just fill in the same records for Tests - the table looks a bit odd because the highest two innings in Tests have been declared (six and seven wickets down respectively, so the highest total at the fall of the 8th, 9th and 10th wickets are lower than those for the 5th, 6th and 7th:
1st - 413 (I vs NZ at Madras 1955-56 - Mankad and Pankaj Roy)
2nd - 615 (SL vs I at Colombo, 1997)
3rd - 638 (SL vs SA at Colombo, 2006 - Jayawardene and Sangakkara)
4th - 790
5th - 921
6th - 924 (all SL vs I again)
7th - 876 (E vs A at the Oval, 1938)
8th - 813
9th - 821
10th - 849 (all E vs WI at Kingston, 1929-30)
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as an extra to my answer about tendulkar's 3 scores of 99 in a year
at least all of the scorers of 99 in ODI have scored a ODI century at some time or another, unlike 99s in tests where 9 batters have scored 99 but failed to score 100 in their test careers
famously Alex Tudor scoring 99 not out winning the match (against NZ) as night watchman, but Thorpe (that great team player) scored the winning run, thus denying Tudor a century
on this table, of 99s in tests, tendulkar doesn't figure, and nobody leads as there are 8 players with 2 entries, including Boycott again (out of 68 players)
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During the recent first test between Australia and Sri Lanka, the Australian bowlers each took the same number of wickets in both innings! Was that a world first?
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Thanks Michael and Vidhya. Which begs the question - who was the first person ever to be awarded the Man of the Match award in Test cricket?
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In the first Test of the aforementioned Australia vs West Indies series (which finished on 2nd December 1975) it was Greg Chappell, who scored a hundred in each innings as Australia won by eight wickets. I'll see if I can find any earlier instances... they weren't awarded in the 1975 Ashes, or in any of the Test series in the 1974-75 season. I won't guarantee that this is correct, but I'd say that Greg Chappell is probably your answer.
Hugo - I can give you at least one other instance, although I'm not going to look through 1800+ scorecards to check if it's the only one: at Lord's in 1972, Bob Massie (on debut) took eight wickets in each innings, and Dennis Lillee took the other two in both cases.
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Bill - In my teens I saw Brian Davidson hit six sixes in an over from John Tracois for Leicestershire against against a touring Zimbabwe team. I am sure there was a no ball or two in the over, I seem to be remember it was on a Sat or Sun and I am guessing it was in 1983 as Zimbabwe were here to play in the world cup. Please can you confirm that this happened as I have not been able locate the innings anywhere on the web and friends I have told of it are relunctant to believe it actually happened. I also find strange that Brian Davidson does appear much cricket pages - he was by far my favourite Leicestershire player - always entertaining and great hard hitting batter.
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What were the heights of Parthiv Patel when he made his Test debut in 2002 and Mushfiqur Rahim in 2005 ?
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question 85 YJ
this paragraph appears in a history of ZIM at the 1983 world cup
"The next match was a friendly against Sri Lanka, at Cambridge. Zimbabwe were confident of victory, having had the better of Sri Lanka when the latter had toured less than a year earlier, but the pace bowling of Asantha de Mel in favourable conditions shattered their batting and bowled them out for 72, to lose by eight wickets. Then followed a 22-run defeat by Leicestershire, with Brian Davison, the former Zimbabwean, scoring a century and hitting John Traicos for six sixes in an over."
so it at least verifies your memory,however it doesn't include a full scorecard, and even scores Davidson wrongly
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How many times in One day cricket have a side lost after a batsmen from the side have scored century ?
Who has the record for most centuries where the side lost the match ? (one who brings bad luck, should be kicked out of the side, or should retire hurt on 99) ?
How many times have a side lost the match when a bowler from that side has taken 5 wickets ?
Bowlers Rule ... Batsmen suck!!!
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okay, i've found the scorecard for LEI (Davison) vs ZIM, it is here
notice at the very bottom it reads
"In Leicestershire's innings, 39 runs were scored of AJ Traicos's final over which consisted of 8 deliveries. RA Cobb scored 3 off the first (a no ball), BF Davison scored no runs off the next delivery, and hit the remaining 6 balls for 6, the penultimate being another no ball."
so that ties up everything you said
(btw it is I who cannot spell not the ZIM world cup site!)
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Could you please tell me when was the last occasion that Australia has lost a test series on home soil?
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Bill,
Looking at the career of Ryan and Arnie Sidebottom, I see that there was a gap of only seven years between the end of Arnie's and the start of Ryan's career at Yorkshire.
Are there any shorter gaps between father and son playing first class cricket and have any actually played together?
Thanks,
Pete H
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Greetings from New York.
If Mike Hussey retires now, has he played enough tests to be considered the holder of the second best test average? Also, who is considered to be the official possessor of this milestone? Is it Barry Richards, in spite of not having played too many tests?
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question 92 PRASHANT
well it cartainly wouldn't be Barry Richards, in his 4 Tests he averaged 72.57, which is well below Bradman (99.94) in his 52 Tests
even Hussey pales next to this (84.64)
For players with 10 Tests the list reads
Bradman
Hussey
Dempster
Barnes
Arif
Pollock
Healy
Succliffe
being an elite 9 with averages above 60 for 10 tests (Richards would be 3rd IF he had played 10 tests)
there must be players with less than ten tests who fluked a hundred (or even a not out) in their only innings but should they count?
Question 91 BILL
well off the top of my head the Quaife's played together for WARKS...so i looked it up
"Father and son William and Bernard Quaife played alongside each other for Warwickshire. For 10 remarkable minutes, in 1922, they batted together against the bowling of Billy Bestwick and his son in a match against Derbyshire"
which was intriguing, so i delved some more, turning up this from cricinfo
"Robert Saxton Bestwick, who died in Jersey on July 3, 1980, aged 80, will be remembered for an incident which one can safely say is unique in first-class cricket. For Derbyshire against Warwickshire at Derby in 1922, for some 10 minutes he bowled at one end while his father, the much better known Bill Bestwick, bowled at the other, against W. G. Quaife and his son, B. W."
he however only played 5 times, so this was indeed a lucky crossing, 2 pairs of fathers and sons in one county match (the elder Quaife scoring a hundred in that game and being a Test player too)
the scorecard for this delightful match can be found here
there must be others too
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question 92 PRASHANT
ah, i've just reread my answer, and you question, and i see now that you want the 2nd leading average, sorry
so for 10 tests my table is correct, giving Hussey second place, however noramally averages for more than 20 innings are the statistic given, so that table reads
Bradman (99.94)
Hussey (84.64)
Pollock (60.97)
Headly (60.83)
Sutcliffe (60.73)
again only giving those above 60
only when we get to 30 innings does Hussey drop out
to make up for my misreading i have discovered a few batsmen with very high averages because they only appeared in one test,
Rodney Redman opened the batting for NZ with scores of 107 and 56 in his only test, giving an average of 81.50
Worse luck still Andy Ganteaume scored 112 in his only innings for WI, therefore getting an average of 112
However beating both these is Stuart Law, who made his debut with a ceratin R.Ponting, scoring 54 not out in his only Test, and gaining an INFINITE average
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Thanks Porto Ian. You're a goldmine of information.
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As per the rules 鈥渢he substitute runner shall wear external protective equipment equivalent to that worn by the batsman for whom he runs and shall carry a bat.鈥 What is the rule if the injured player is the only left-hander (or for that matter right-hander) batman in the team and there is no other left-hander to substitute for him?
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Question 91 - Father and Son Alan and Mark Butcher played against each other in 1991.
Galmorgan v Surrey in a Sunday League. Alan was captain of Glamorgan and got 39, Mark got 48.
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question 97 ANIKET
i don't see the problem, no umpire would mind over left or right handed batting gloves (or even pads) AND if they did the substitute right handed batsman could wear left handed gloves (pads) anyway, he's not going to use them!
i suppose in a small team there might only be one pair of left gloves, but as i said why should the umpire complain as long as he had gloves, left or right (if he did we could make the same argument for MAKES of gloves/pads/bats...is a GW bat the same as a DF?)
the point of the law is that the runner is equiped to bat, thats all
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Dear Bill,
i have a stuart surridge bat that has come into my possesion.
it is stamped on the front, specially made for Jack Hobbs Ltd, 59 Fleet Street, London, EC4.Trademark Wellington, Patent Reinforced Toe No
19386/28
The J B Hobbs Surrey & England XI.
on the reverse it is stamped EXTRA SPECIAL and has a handwritten inscription "Selected for S????? Johnson by JB Hobbs".(looks like "sasser" could be nickname.
Would you know around what year the bat was made and who was S Johnson ??
Kind Regards
Barry
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Dear Bill,
I noticed something.... statty... recently regarding Ian Bell. He has an average of 43.27 in tests, yet has never made a test score in the 40's. The closest he has come was a 50 on 23rd November 2006 against Australia, and a 38 against India on 9th March 2006. This gives him a good 5.27 runs difference between his "average" and his closest to average score. Is this the biggest margin of it's type?
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Hi Bill
Do you know how many players (and their names) in the history of test cricket have played for more than 1 country during their careers..
Thanks
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