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ANOTHER POLITICAL SLOGAN - 'ASPIRATION NATION'

If courses were horses then all kids would 'ride'
Now Gove does 'New Balls' they just all run and hide.

Watch out: here comes educational DAMNATION INFLATION.

what happened to those girls is what happens to any brainwashing technique as in the jihadi case.

Given archer got 4 years for perjury how can someone get 3 years for rape?

Dumb Students

Paying student fees is a stupidity tax imposed upon people living out a 20th century model of education. There are whole courses of lectures online for free. Distance learning from 'big name' colleges is a bargain.

Like parents taking kids to a supermarket to show them all the things they can't have the politicians, as part of their deception economics and politics, suggest to people they can free things as 'rights' then wonder why people have tantrums when they can't have it.


Disturbed children from insecure homes exhibit the same sort of destructive behaviour? Hayekism is about creating anarchy. If 'parents' create anarchy in the house what do they expect?

"The Education Secretary Michael Gove has unveiled his schools White Paper which signals a return to traditional educational values as it sets out wide ranging plans for school reforms in England."
its not possible to discuss issues with fundamentalist ideologues such as gove.

"A paedophile gang has been convicted today of raping and abusing vulnerable teenage girls in Derby. Detectives there say the case has been the most horrendous case of sexual exploitation they have ever faced.

Tonight Jackie Long talks to the victims of these crimes - girls as young as 12, groomed by paedophiles and pimped out - and investigates what is being done to tackle the phenomenon."

a bit ott, as if kids arent being pimped out everyday across this country by all manner of people from the religious to our self righteous media .

I DON'T THINK GOVE WOULD HAVE HAD A CLUE ABOUT MY POTENTIAL.

Indeed, only a handful of teachers showed any sign that they did.

I see nothing in Gove's journey through life, nor in his general demeanour, that fits him for empathy with the struggling pupil, trapped by his 'betters' in an educational hell.

Were Gove wishing to set up elite schools for intense swots, I would urge him on, as the man for the job.

NEVER MIND THE DEPTH - WATCH THE ARTISTRY (#3)

This is when all that expensive kit that runs the studio walls, comes into its own wendyman.

Selective, shallow treatment of news is bearable when you fix your attention on the content, and meaningful change, to the wallarama.

Have you sampled the new Politics Show studio? It is a gem. Subtle rings of pastel shades, pulse behind the studio guest, as if to massage their egos. Apposite or what?

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"Selective, shallow treatment of news is bearable when you fix your attention on the content, and meaningful change, to the wallarama.

Have you sampled the new Politics Show studio? It is a gem. Subtle rings of pastel shades, pulse behind the studio guest, as if to massage their egos. Apposite or what?"

i was wondering what all of that was about - daily politics .. with nn its more sinister ..

Well it cheered me up!

BY THEIR SHOES SHALL YE KNOW THEM.

There is a snobbery in shoes that requires top people to walk on leather. Rubber is for proles. Unfortunately, even GM cows do not yield non-slip leather.

But let's not forget the gravitational force. Two massive bodies: the earth and the DEFINING Govine posterior, are subject to a powerful mutual attraction when in close proximity.

Corporate Nazi EU Fourth Reich sham democracy in action, those who speak anything close to the truth ( like opposing the climate change scam ) must be excluded from any debate ?

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#9 barrie

That post is more amusing than the clip!

I've seen many former Churches converted into flats/gyms/pubs/shops. What's wrong with using a disused Church which can be sold off for a profit, and the funds going back to the Church? Even if you want to preserve a Church, who is going to pay for it? How much can the National Trust or The Churches Conservation Trust maintain, particularly in these austere times?

According to today's Daily Mail

one of the girls (a 14 year old) was a straight A student, until she got involved with the gang and her grades plummeted. Isn't this a HUGE warning to parents that all is not well with their child? And what sort of parent lets their underage daughter come home stinking of alcohol or be off their face on drugs or clutching expensive gifts? In one instance it even states "Liaqat had sex with another 14 year-old in her bedroom while the girl鈥檚 mother was downstairs." WAKE UP PARENTS! They are CHILDREN, it isn't their fault. It is the parents who are FAILING to take care of them. The parents are self indulgent narcissists.

There's only one way to tackle the problem - adopt the Chinese method of population control - one child per couple and make them have a licence to be able to have a child! Anyone violating this is jailed. End of.

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Also just read that Michael Gove is recruiting former troops to be teachers :o)

Mr Go Very Fast (GVF) is at it again!

Lots of trumpeted proposals, most seemingly based upon an international pick鈥檔鈥檆hoose list of ideologically selected - and dubiously successful - practices and institutions! ( And a - now routine - fair bit of 'jiggling with', and re-branding of, the last HMG's policies and proposals of course !!!! )


Which is more likely? Ex-forces officers working in the 鈥楥ity鈥� for mega-bucks - and mega-bonuses - or said oiks going to work in a 鈥榝ailing鈥� sink estate school and never earning enough to get more than a mortgage on a one bedroom garden shed?


What exactly is the point of changing the GCSE subject list that defines whether a School is good or bad? Anyone that has worked in a 鈥渇ailing sink estate school鈥� will almost certainly tell you that the most difficult subject areas to 鈥榯each鈥� are languages and science! Why? Because a fair few students that attend - or otherwise - sink schools struggle often with the basics of more fundamental subjects and are really more interested in how to fix a gearbox or the best method of going - legally - blond! True, not all said students aspire to such a 鈥榮kill-set鈥� and 鈥楴o鈥� it isn鈥檛 always as a result of poor quality teaching ....

Simply, different students have different aims, abilities and aptitudes! Forcing them to study subject areas that do not 鈥榝it鈥� will only increase the separation in the league tables.


Discipline! It gets boring repeating it!

(Ultimately) ..... It鈥檚 the Insurance Companies, Stupid!


Why - seemingly - not one proposal that could further utilise one already available resource i.e. Teaching Assistants. Why not fund a training opportunity for TA鈥檚 to 鈥榤ove up in the world?


Having watched Mr GVF giving his statement to the house an outsider could easily come to the conclusion that he - GVF - can 鈥榯alk the talk鈥� but as someone whom has been at the 鈥榗oal-face鈥� I can assuredly say that he 鈥榗an鈥檛 walk the walk鈥�!


Only one proposal put forward might achieve a few brownie-points, namely the idea of 鈥淭eaching Schools鈥� If candidates know their subject the best way to learn to teach 鈥榠t鈥� is - practically - in a classroom. Theorizing about 鈥榠t鈥� - for a year or more - achieves very little, if anything!




And .... Oh yes! ....

The Derby sexual predators 鈥榗ase鈥�........

A national charity states ( via 主播大秀 News 24 ) that this type of criminal activity often involves Asian gangs and previous trials, as would appear also to be in this case, have shown that the preference for these 鈥榞angs鈥� is to focus on non-asian under-age girls. Be it the case that sex with a Minor - consensual or otherwise, is deemed 鈥榮tatutory rape鈥� it was indeed ironic for C4 to broadcast 鈥�4thought.tv鈥� at 19.55 hrs tonight!

That said .... (鈥淲hat happens in America eventually comes here.鈥�)

Maybe Oklahoma did get it right!

'FOR I THY GOD AM A JEALOUS GOD' (#12)

Blimey 76! You need to read a bit more Bible. Those Church things are also called 'The House of God', and like Council Houses used to be, the tenancy is for life. You get my drift?

The Apocalypse will be a lot worse than 4 degrees C temperature rise. I don't think we should go annoying Big G.

HUP TWO THREE FOUR (#14)

Well - you can see his thinking (if that's the right word). When I was in the Junior School (primary, if you must) Mr Hilling, a past-it Sa'Major, would drill us in the yard, purely for his own satisfaction, complete with 'left wheel' and squad HUN! It didn't make a soldier of me, but the seeds of desertion (from idiocy) may well have taken root at that time.

A whole new meaning to FALL OUT! (:o)

it doesn't matter if the teacher is rambo. the laws allow kids to run rings around them. schools are not places of education. it is enforced conscription to attend a place called 'a school'. The kids are not obliged to learn anything and so some don't.

a 'student' implies not mere attendance but an attitude of respect to knowledge. So the correct name for schoolkids is attendees not students.

NN 鈥淲ith congregations shrinking sharply and money drying up, should these religious buildings remain sacred places? Or should we chop up our churches and convert them into flats, pubs, gyms and shops?鈥�

I have blogged on NN my views on this topic before, but since you asked-

As a confirmed non-believer, I still respect the tremendous power of inspiration that the religious belief of various prophets and ancient texts have generated in the fields of art, architecture and music, having just returned from a tour of many of Italy鈥檚 famous historic buildings and works of art. Of course, not all UK churches justify preservation solely on the claim of being historic masterpieces. But to destroy them would be like destroying all old buildings and works of art that no longer meet today鈥檚 standards or functionality or elegance.

On his recent visit the Pope鈥檚 claimed that UK is suffering from 鈥榓ggressive secularism鈥� and I agree that it is time for a new Renaissance - in order to halt the consumerist worship of mammon and self-indulgence now rushing in to fill the void being left by the abandonment of Christian worship of myths and dogma.

I suggest that those clergy members who are thinking of jumping steward-ship of our C of E churches for other pastures, should consider instead preaching an almost forgotten faith - dormant in many of us, and as yet unborn in many - of love of our planet Mother Earth and of our country.

Last week I took my family to a 鈥楥lassical Spectacular鈥� at the Royal Albert Hall, mainly to tempt them to accompany me to next year鈥檚 主播大秀 Proms which show that 主播大秀 still has something of more substance to offer than round-the-clock pap. I was surprised by the capacity crowds and their enthusiastic participation which demonstrated our inherent national love of singing together, particularly of patriotic songs 鈥� rather like the last night of the Proms.

Those half-empty churches should every Sunday be ringing with such sounds and with psalms of praise and gratitude for the lives of OUR FAMILIES, not for those of one many past prophets and the fables that have been handed down. We might feel closer to our neighbours again if we had something real and present to rejoice about.

What we DON鈥橳 need is to convert these places of (non-religious) congregation into pubs, which are also under-occupied and closing up; or shops, which means more supermarkets taking over our communities; or flats, as we should be working on population REDUCTION to recognise that this country can only support a finite number of jobs and citizens.
To me, this country is a sacred place, sorely in need of a Renaissance, so it鈥檚 time for the rebirth of secular community churches.

HOW IS THE BLAIR FOUNDATION DOING?

We are going to need a lot of faith, and Tony is in the faith business.
Are we still paying for his protection? Money well spent!

BRAVO IDG2 (#20)

A good call. But as The Prophet (Douglas Adams) would say: "Boiling away into space."

There might be a gene for cleverness; probably not one for wisdom; certainly no virus that takes out nihilism.

Ho hum.

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It was widely reported these sexual assaults had a racial undertone.
Paxman did not have the bottle to raise this during the debate.Maybe
its time for the bbc to start employing more fearless journalists.

I protested today, as a current University student I will not be affected by cuts until I have children of my own, however I feel that the planned cuts in university budgets, in addition to the increases in fees for individual students is not acceptable.

The proposed budget cuts will reduce the number of courses, reduce the amount of teaching time and overall reduce the quality of higher education in Britain. This cannot happen, as graduates we are a valuable asset to the economy, we are (or should be) highly skilled workers, many with semi-vocational degrees like engineering, architecture, medicine and law which are simply unattainable if you increase fees and reduce the quality of teaching.

This is why I protested today. I am against the cuts to our education from the age of 16 upwards. I am against being charged for my education at an unfeasible rate. I am against the dumbing down of higher education in Britain.

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HANNAN IS VERY QUIET THESE DAYS (#22)

Any thoughts Bro? I suppose Destiny Dave has told him to keep quiet.

Bizarre to watch Farage denounce them from INSIDE! I am surprised the Council of Ministers doesn't have a hit squad. Perhaps they do, but it is as inefficient as the rest of that charade.

The Pol Pot and Chairman Mao's little red book education system was always gonna be useless because its based on the hatefilled ideology of the socialists childlike belief that all are equal. Lets get back to selective education, recognize that not all kids are gonna have the aptitude to be Doctors, scientists or Newsnight presenters; some are only gonna be capable of brick laying, repairing cars or becoming Labour politicians. There is no shame in not having an academic bent.

And can we have less students please, the school leavers level of 50 percent going into higher education - and introduced by Labour - was just a mental policy. Most employers would be happy with youngsters just having the skills to read, right and do maths without the aid of a calculator. Having qualifications is not something most employers actually want from new staff members anymore -most are useless anyhow - what they want is someone who wants to work and be reliable and not some dumbed down version of some lazy a*** and overpaid university lecturer who couldn't hold down a job in the real world.

according to the cps :

"Child abuse

* 98% of child abuse sexual offence cases were perpetrated by men.

* There were 10 homicides: 8 of the 10 defendants were men and 7 were successfully prosecuted.

* Men were responsible for 75% of cases involving offences against the person. There were no differences between the genders in the outcomes of those prosecuted.

* The breakdown for victims of child abuse showed that only 31% of cases had recorded gender. Of these, 67% were girls.

* Ethnicity was not recorded in 9% of cases.

For child sexual abuse cases where ethnicity was recorded, there was a HIGHER percentage of White defendants and LOWER percentages of Black and Asian defendants COMPARED WITH THE POPULATION.

Successful outcome patterns were similar to those for domestic violence and rape cases. However, as outlined above, all ethnicity data needs to be treated with caution.

* Victim gender is poorly recorded, but where recorded, 67% of victims were girls."




"An estimated 110,000 people have been convicted of sexual offences against children in England and Wales. This data is from a 主播大秀 Office prevalence study conducted in 1993 and is the latest available data of this type."

First time on this site.Is it always this slow?

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Excellent Newsnight tonight - particularly on the student fee rises. One student clearly told Jeremy that she had gone onto the website and checked whether she would be able to go to University or not, and found that - even though she was from a not so affluent family - she would still be able to go to University and get specific grants. Therefore the argument that poorer families would be hit by a rise in tuition fees falls flat on its face! Looking at the state of the riots in Whitehall today, I wonder how many of them just went there to cause mischief........ and breaking a policeman's arm and knocking another one unconscious isn't protesting, it's just hooliganism.

Although many points were raised in the debate on Churches being converted to other establishments, what they failed to mention was funding. Who would be picking up the bill to preserve these Churches?

Excellent debate by Jeremy with Katherine Birbalsingh et al too :o)

at 32: In answer to your question..yes. Something to do with lawyers and posts checked againsts the 主播大秀 standards and practice policy statement. If a post has a right wing slant, expect a delay or binned post. Though recently its lightened up a little. Maybe they're not wearing their uniforms and boots anymore.

"At 11:59pm on 24 Nov 2010, millytante wrote:"

and yet the CPS report that : (see earlier post for link) -

"* Ethnicity was not recorded in 9% of cases.

For child sexual abuse cases where ethnicity was recorded, there was a HIGHER percentage of White defendants and LOWER percentages of Black and Asian defendants COMPARED WITH THE POPULATION."



this negates much of what you have written in that the vast majority of acts are not by asian or black as they are UNDER represented in population terms whilst whites are OVER represented.

that would suggest that at least 90% of crimes are committed by whites according to the CPS ..

#33 Very well said millytante, I've read about this abuse for years as well. I remember documentaries on Channel 4 years and years ago, stating that it had a racist element to it. And that young white girls were treated very badly, and targeted for abuse, it shows the total difference in cultures between races here. Although it would be interesting to know if white men had treated asian girls the same way.

And yes you're right the BNP have been talking of this for at least 3 years, but always ignored.

me at 24 (which got pulled)

Can I refer you to post 33. are you gonna censor that one as well..are we going to avert our eyes to the truth forever and ever. You must know in your guts that this denial can't continue.

Mim : spelling mistake at my post(30) go seek and chew over it. I'll write you a nice poem if you can find it.

Thanks for the reply kevsey,off to bed,way past my bedtime,up early
to build some houses to keep my betters snug and dry.

My advice to Mr Gove is to 鈥淏eware the Jabberwock, my son ... " He has indulged himself in far too much mimsy, aye an in the borogoves too. [shudder] If he's not careful reality and common sense will come up behind him and shout, "Boo!" setting his over sized bottom lip a-quivering.

wendyman36
I have a PC word for this. I call it a phenomenon. We can also call it area specific phenomenon, we could also call it something else, you know, but lets not upset the Guardian readership bubble brigade eh.

Can you do a maths example please, I'm somewhat perplexed. Keep it simple etc and factor in all that needs factoring in. I don't want to steer you or anything or point out something you may have missed, you know, something rather obvious..

Thank you ecolizzy and others.

If the sentences turn out to be far too lenient for these crimes you can write to the Attorney general and complain.

Newsnight is gonna be in the newspapers again..and for all the wrong reasons...again!

Education/University Fees debate

Interested in Jeremy being overly apologetic for 鈥榟is generation鈥�, which is simply not comparable.

Surely education at the highest level should be based on two clear and possibly 鈥榰nfair鈥� parameters. Viz:- Need (of the country) and ability (of the individual) to provide for that need. In Jeremy鈥檚 day (I guess we are talking close on 40 years ago), while there would be a biase towards public school entry to University, there were far fewer students, fewer degrees and more specific subjects.

I have a novel idea to restructure further education. Everyone leaves school at 17/18 with the best qualifications they can manage. They spend a minimum of three years in the work place, earning and paying a small 鈥榯ax鈥� towards further education. If, after three years they know what they want and need to do, they can use their credits towards part time, full time or work based training including distance learning.

Oh yes, and if they want to 'find themselves' by doing gap years and travelling the world, they must fund that themselves. I am getting tired of school and personal fund raisers turning out to be to fund 'life affirming' trips overseas for already over indulged teens.

I'm sorry milly and kev that your posts got pulled, I get the feeling someone complained.

Free speech is definitely dead in Britain, especially on the Beeb! ; /

In fact I'd go so far to say it is racism, as the indigenous people cannot have a voice anymore.

THE LEARNING EXPERIENCE (GOING FORWARD) IN THE NORMAN (FEUDAL) AGE (#44)

Your restructuring interesting and constructive LC2. But it would appear that education is caught in the same mire as governance and monarchy-based power.

Jesus stood on a hill, and people gathered to be told stuff. Today, he could do it all by email and video-conferencing. A few one-to-ones, and job's a good'n. But a don's a don for a' that. Immature folk just love hierarchies - the great lecturing (ministering unto) the UPTURNED FACES of aspirants.

Until we find a way to mature, and to put away childish things as defined above, each generation (quite properly in animal terms) will ape the previous lot.

In the confusion - going nowhere. (Led by such ninnies as Gove.)

MILLY KEV and LIZZY

Don't lose sight of perversity by default. The Blogdog took exception to my regular appeal to DISRUPT POLITICAL PLAY. (in three different words).

Now, if I slip into old habits, I get an immediate notice that the PROFANITY filter has blocked my post. I conclude there are only a limited number of filters (like recycle bins for rubbish) none of which, my innocent call to action fitted.

We are living through very peculiar times, with an increasingly 'Alician' feel to them. One thing is certain, our grip on reality is slipping as an inexorable slide into infantile, clever unwisdom takes hold. Newsnight (complete with Blogdog) is PERFECTLY symptomatic, in all its gaudy glory.

To wendymann post 36:

The stats may well show a slight over representation of REPORTED child abuse cases in the 'white' demographic. That may be an interesting topic for debate, but it isn't really the issue here though.
This is an apparently specific modus operandi, where, specifically, as one victim put it:

"Most of the men running the sex slave gangs in the north of England are MUSLIMS of Pakistani origin"

Why on earth did the newsnight report not even touch on any link between the perpetrators?

#44 Interesting ideas LC, I think around 40 years ago 5% of pupils went to University, it was by far only the brightest went. But we were a very successful country at the time without all these university educated people.

I expect it would be around 25% naturally now, not 50%. I think this all started when we sent work overseas, and began going towards a financial and service industry country. Either highly skilled (cunning! ;o), or dead end jobs.

Originally I think encouraging people into further education was a way to hide the unemployed. If you couldn't get a job, go on a course, any course, as long as you didn't show up in an unemployment figure anywhere. I know quite a few young people who have started endless uni courses but stopped after a few months. Partly because they couldn't do the work, and partly it wasn't what they really wanted to do.

Lack of work is one of the biggest problems here, and employers lack of committment to training.

DON'T UNDERESTIMATE THE CYNICAL WESTMINSTER MIND (#49)

I am ever more persuaded that our wretchedly needy politicians, installed in their amoral, soulless parties, strive to UNVEIL THE NEW INITIATIVE with their name on it. That is the orgasmic buzz. That it all falls apart, and fades away, matters little.

50% SHALL GO TO UNIVERSITY. 80% CO2 REDUCTION. 20% RENEWABLES. And so on.
As I have posted before: If Thatcher, Major, Blair, Brown, Miliband, are the best they have, HOW BAD MIGHT THE WORST BE?

Why have both of my attempted posts on here vanished?
At least there was an explanation for the earlier one (post 28) but there's not even a sign of one I posted in the last hour.

#49
Indeed Lizzy. Then we start having to ask the question: 'What is full employment?' 'Is it desirable and is it possible.'

If the answer to either of the latter two is No, then what is the revised expectation of every day life in the 21st C.

#31/36 wendymann
You have been rather selective in quoting from the link you posted e.g.:
Rape and Sexual offences
(in 86% of cases) "there was a lower proportion of White offenders than in the population as a whole, and a higher proportion of Black, Asian and Mixed Ethnicity offenders. Similar to the domestic violence data, there was also a higher percentage of successful outcomes with White defendants than for Black, Asian or Mixed Ethnicity defendants."

Child abuse
Where ethnicity was recorded (91% of cases) there was a higher percentage of White defendants and lower percentages of Black and Asian defendants compared with the population. Successful outcome patterns were similar to those for domestic violence and rape cases.

Trafficking and prostitution
No ethnicity currently available within CPS. Limited data from the 主播大秀 Office.

Forced marriage, so-called honour crimes and female genital mutilation
No cases of FGM have yet been prosecuted, although a number of cases have been investigated by the police."

Why isn't ethnicity, location and other factors available? Analysis is a vital step in diagnosis and attempted remedy. And why no prosecutions in the last category for which ethnicity needs no analysis?

Michael Parkinson's views on TV getting dumbed down

THE GLORIOUS INCONSISTENCIES OF THE APE CONFUSED BY LANGUAGE (#53)

In passing - Woman's Hour was just tying itself in the usual knots over where 'choice' ends and 'prejudice' (shock-horror) begins; specifically regarding online dating.

When a black lady studio guest (who had stated her dating-desire for men over 5'11") reiterated it as 'I don't want a short man' IT PASSED UNNOTICED AND WITHOUT COMMENT.

Discuss? Why?

#46 barrie:

鈥淛esus stood on a hill, and people gathered to be told stuff. Today, he could do it all by email and video-conferencing. A few one-to-ones, and job's a good'n. But a don's a don for a' that. Immature folk just love hierarchies - the great lecturing (ministering unto) the UPTURNED FACES of aspirants.鈥�

I wish I鈥檇 said that barrie! I鈥檝e certainly witnessed it in 鈥榙eveloping鈥� countries where the simple folk voted for a President for Life and were duly exploited lifelong, whereas we鈥檝e got a non-elected head of state and civil list!

鈥淯ntil we find a way to mature, and to put away childish things as defined above, each generation (quite properly in animal terms) will ape the previous lot.鈥�

School indoctrination must be balanced by a parental component. I send my teenager to a faith school because it also has discipline and work ethic, but I also ensure that we read and discuss Darwin and Dawkins.

I鈥檓 glad to have inherited the ape characteristics of caution and suspicion.

Half a story.

Teenagers acting like that means there was something so wrong at home that they prefer to perpetuate such a level of abuse by strangers?


God and the Material world

Basic error in theology there JP. God, the word we use for the divine is not an old man in the sky. All things participate in the divine otherwise they could not exist. see Proclus elements of theology.

the only religion is saw there was building worship which is the curse of britain.

I am shocked that my comment has been removed and I should like an explanation from the editors of Newsnight as to why they chose to ignore during the programme the fact that the perpetrators of this heinous crime is Asian men and its cultural significance which might well help the problem to be fully and properly addressed.

Again what we are hearing being discussed is the victim and not the perpetrator. This mistake continues to get in the way of all sex crimes, we always concentrate on the analysis of the victim and ignore the elephant in the room, the perpetrator and his driving force towards sexual violence. Newsnight has a lot to answer for in their disgraceful sleight of hand over this particular crime.

#58 millytante a pointer, you have to be very, very careful what you say on any 主播大秀 blog. We are heavily censored, as we all are in todays Britain everywhere. Free speech is very much a thing of the past in this country. I've just had two of my comments stripped from another blog, probably someone complained, it happens a lot. You will never have a specific mistake pointed out.

Remember free speech is dead here now.

NO GREATER ACCOLADE IN MY BOOK (#56)

Sincere thanks IDG2. In our poetry group, I use "I wish I had written that" as my highest approval. (:o)

I regard the ape as disingenuous; deserving of continuity, in an appropriate ecological niche. The Ape Confused by Language, however, is an abomination. I think it was the Cathars who realised the physical world was created by the Devil, and God struggles to get a look-in? Amen to that.

Hang in there IDG2. I'll try to book a place next to you when we all hang together.

PS - Is Cock-a-doodle Cameron becoming even more insufferable? Or is it me?

We are about to have massive job cuts, anywhere in the region of 500,000 to 1 million jobs lost, but still the population keeps increasing.

OH WHAT A TANGLED WEB WE WEAVE (#61)

When more come in than ever leave. And Manglish spoken by my 'brother' means neither understands the other.

Meanwhile Dave sings: "Happiness happiness, the greatest gift that I possess. I thank the Lord that I've been blessed with more than YOUR share of happiness."

Oh it's all going awfully.

kevseywevsey (30)

"The Pol Pot and Chairman Mao's little red book education system was always gonna be useless because its based on the hatefilled ideology of the socialists childlike belief that all are equal."

Sadly, you are radically mistaken. It is important to see how and why.

Socialism doesn't subscribe to that belief at all. If it did, why does China only send about 5% of its population to university, and why are its exams so selective? It just is about equality before the law. That means that just as one's disabilities must not bar one from equal treatment before the law, so too one's native abilities as advantages must not privilege one before the law either. If one is able one owes others a service. That is what communitarians believe. It's really quite subtle.

As others have pointed out in this blog it is libertarians who baldly make out that all are free and equal despite it not being so. Such people are not left-wingers. They are right-wingers.

What more people should be asking is why they do this - especially given the social and economic consequences which we now unfolding all about us. I think it was Debtjuggler who asked "why don't more people get this?". That's a good question.

See William K Black here:

indignantindegene (53)

"#31/36 wendymann
You have been rather selective in quoting from the link you posted e.g.: Rape and Sexual offences in 86% of cases) "there was a lower proportion of White offenders than in the population as a whole, and a higher proportion of Black, Asian and Mixed Ethnicity offenders. Similar to the domestic violence data,there was also a higher percentage of successful outcomes with White defendants than for Black, Asian or Mixed Ethnicity defendants."

Child abuse
Where ethnicity was recorded (91% of cases) there was a higher percentage of White defendants and lower percentages of Black and Asian defendants compared with the population. Successful outcome patterns were similar to those for domestic violence and rape cases."

Sadly, most people don't pay much attention to what these terms actually refer to in the law. Instead they'll decide what 'child abuse' means and equate that with sex offence. Sexual offences and child abuse are in fact quite different. Media reporting on these issues today is really quite awful and so it's daft to take what one sees on TV seriously. It's done more for sensational entertainment alas. We now see individuals anonymously interviewed and giving stories which would never count as valid testimony in court. Last night we heard silly things said all round in the studio discussion. Girls behave in quite reckless ways in adolescence, and form all sorts of families, but for useful statistics
on ethnicity and base rates, see 主播大秀 Office and Ministry of Justice figures on convictions and sentencing by ethnicity. The statistics on this are well established internationally.

The 主播大秀 has a brief to be seen to promote good race relations, so some censorship is inevitable - they are just doing their public sector
mandated job (see the RRAA) . Even the official statistics have a leader saying that 主播大秀 Secretary or Mister for Justice doesn't have to present
the data baldly, as I'm sure someone has pointed out here some time in the past.

It's all very well for the 主播大秀 to, as you put it, - "have a brief to promote good race relations", but when that they ignore the facts, and possible precautions required to prevent the widespread rape of our young children, - that 'brief' becomes a despicable whitewash.

Now I see that my comment at 33, at present removed, is said at 58 to be being reconsidered. We shall see if Newsnight has the moral courage and in fact the common sense to face the facts.

Taking extreme PC positions of denial only leads to resentment which opens a space for the likes of the BNP to step in, and forces ethnic groups out in the cold trying to either defend themselves against the backlash or becoming entrenched in their own denial of the facts. This kind of manipulation of 'how we should think' always fails to pull the wool over people's eyes.

Facing these ugly facts cautiously discussed in the Newsnight programme about specific aspects of cultural behaviour which can and has lead some men to become monstrous will liberate minority cultures from a conceptual ghetto that I suspect most do not want to be in. When exposed for what it is, we can then all be just people of any race who have developed enough human empathy to engage together in moral outraged over sexual violence against children and young girls and can take action to prevent it, which is what we all want, is it not? Except, of course, those sick men who have taken advantage of our reluctance to notice what we don't want to see.

My point is that the 'we', those who don't want to see, belong to both the Asian communities and the white communities. Newsnight's coy reluctance to face the facts facilitates the very behaviour in which these men have indulged themselves. It cannot be addressed until it is owned and brought right into the spotlight.

@55 barriesingleton

It's possible the lady feared having a potential lover's nose stuck inside her navel.