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Thursday 3 March 2011

Verity Murphy | 15:16 UK time, Thursday, 3 March 2011

Rupert Murdoch's News Corporation has been given government approval for its controversial bid to take over BSkyB. The green light follows News Corp's offer to spin off Sky News as an independent company.

Rival media groups dismissed News Corp's offer as a "whitewash" and said they would "vigorously contest" it.

We will be examining the decision and speaking to the man who made it, Culture Secretary Jeremy Hunt.

Lyse Doucet will bring us the latest on what is happening in Libya.

Tim Whewell has a film on Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood - who they are and what they stand for.

And we ask whether, despite all of the fanfare accompanying Saturday's World Book Night plan to give away one million books, there are any problems with a great book giveaway.

Join Kirsty Wark for all of that at 10.30pm on Ö÷²¥´óÐã Two.

Comments

  • Comment number 1.

    I HOPE DISCIPLINARY DAVE APPROVES BRINGING ALL WAR CRIMINALS TO BOOK

    Apparently gratuitous killing is not legal - - - after all.

    Nuff said.

  • Comment number 2.

    THE CORRUPTION BILL THAT WESTMINSTER MADE SURE TO FORGET

    In 2007, a Private Member’s Bill entitled the 'Elected Representatives (Prohibition of Deception) Bill' was sent packing by Labour and Conservative apathy. I ask myself: "If an insider felt the need for such an Act, what did he know that motivated him so?" Coincidentally, he left the Westminster charade at the end of that term. His name is Adam Price. If NewsyNighty could send gumshoe Crick to interview Mr Price about political deception, it should make a revealing story. You can find a classic example of political deception here:



  • Comment number 3.

    selling off a loss making company is hardly 'a sacrifice'?

    the market 'knows' best.

  • Comment number 4.

    When Kirsty is on I completely loose it; transfixed; jaw dropping; mesmerized and unable to muster up my normal disdain for just about everything I cant do the link research work to post on here. The thought of my rant mode seems, well stupid. Gosh how embarrassing that I posted this.

  • Comment number 5.

    INDEPENDENT NON-POLITICAL ADVICE - TONY TOOK THAT TOO

    If the Murdoch business goes as well as The War, independence will triumph!

    Nuff sed.


  • Comment number 6.

    JEREMY HUNT'S GOOD NAME IS NOT IN DOUBT IT SEEMS (#5 additional)

    We do well to remember that Westminster has an ethos . . .

  • Comment number 7.

    radio 4 PM promoting a climate change computer game? still trying to 'normalise' the lies?

  • Comment number 8.

    5

    government advice also said there would only be 13,000 new migrants. The error factor in government is staggering. look at defence estimates. the oligarchy at work.

  • Comment number 9.

    Hopefully someone will also start asking about Hunt's suitability to take a decision on competition and the media when he built up his own personal fortune on the back of a deal between Hotcourses and The British Council - a taxpayer-subdised near-monopoly that enjoys diplomatic protection:



  • Comment number 10.

    WESTMINSTER IS MANIFESTLY 'SUPREMELY RELAXED' ABOUT LYING PARTIES (#8)

    Westminster is peopled by party ciphers, pre-selected by dedicated officers of those lying parties.

    When a 'Westminster Creature' professes integrity, yet has risen to high office under the Westminster Ethos, what might the logical person, reasonably infer?

    Does Jeremy Hunt trust Rupert Murdoch? Eddie Mair might ask that, I couldn't possibly comment.

    IN A TIME OF REVOLUTION, WE MEEKLY STAND FOR ALL THIS - WHY?


  • Comment number 11.

    BUTTER WOULD NOT MELT (#9link)

    How predictable. The Westminster Ethos writ large.

    I saw The Disgraced Lord Archer BROADCASTING FROM THE LORDS yesterday.
    That sums up the whole charade.

    Why do we have to suffer this tish?

  • Comment number 12.

    on twitter

    nicolamorgan Nicola Morgan
    Straight from day of schooltalks to Ö÷²¥´óÐã studios for Newsnight recording. Brain is dead.

    ....

    i can't wait ;)

  • Comment number 13.

    the 'who newsnight follow' list is revealing?

  • Comment number 14.

    This article is pure Ö÷²¥´óÐã eco-fascist propaganda and probably a neat little Corporate Nazi excuse to reduce the official average home energy bill statistics.

    /news/magazine-12606943

  • Comment number 15.

    14

    they clearly haven't given up the climatespeak despite it being discredited. they are believers not rationalists.

    if there was no 'global warming' the uk would be under glaciers.

    how much tax will stop the next ice age cycle?

    ludicrous.

  • Comment number 16.

    LONG-JOHNS CAN SAVE THE PLANET (#14)

    Our legs are vastly over-supplied with blood (presumably for ancient 'pursuits'). Being half-bald I am advised to wear a hat as - the wisdom is - my head loses heat like a gambler loses money. However, all hats do, is make me itch. LONG-JOHNS, on the other hand (sic) make a massive difference to cold comfort and also reduce incidence of flashing!

    Result.


  • Comment number 17.

    if one looks at the european gas chart the prices in 2008 were higher than they are now. the gas price keeps falling. bills keep rising. the regulator is hiding massive tax and spend plans in our bills over which there is no democratic control.

    this energy ripoff is one of the greatest crimes against the british people.

  • Comment number 18.

    one might wonder why experienced combat personnel are being axed but not the useless royals? how much use are they in afghanistan? should they not give up their place for more the useful? they don't need the money.

  • Comment number 19.

    After throwing water over my face look what I found, rather long but Nomi Prins and William K Black are well worth a listen :-

  • Comment number 20.

    WESTMINSTER IS A FRONT FOR CROOKS (#17)

    Westminster is like a shop that never sells anything, or a factory that never makes anything, or a (Parliament that never achieves anything) but is an innocent looking centre for illegal activity, that makes an excellent return. Why would 'the proprietors' bother to do the job properly for a small percent profit - on a good day - when drug sales (tobacco and alcohol) arms dealing, money laundering and quid-pro-quo power-swaps, with other crooks, return in the 100s of percent?

    It's a no brainer - manifestly.

  • Comment number 21.

    I suggest you remove this tedious comment area with it's self indulgent, often fanatical contributions. Or you could put it somewhere more obscure, where it doesn't clutter up the screen when I'm looking to see what's on the programme today.

  • Comment number 22.

    there goes free speech...I knew it...I knew it anything to do with Murdoch is bad news for the rest of us...I knew it...I knew it...I knew

  • Comment number 23.






    What is the one thought that keeps surfacing ? ..........

    Perhaps ..........

    ‘You’ve scratched my back! ..... Time again to scratch yours!’



    Sadly .....

    If Devil Conmoron has his way:

    Four more years to go.

    Joy ..... Oh joy!


  • Comment number 24.

    why would the LSE need gaddafi money? Shouldn't they be making a killing in the markets?

  • Comment number 25.

    #21 Sorry Mr Newtonne ten bob fat cat sheep if you object to what we all write on here, you don't have to read it, other more open minded people may actually enjoy our contributions.

  • Comment number 26.

    "World Book Night."

    I do like it when a guest reels off a list of statistics, which the presenting journalist seems, curiously, not also to have to hand.

  • Comment number 27.

    So it's arab money that is keeping our universities going....



    mainly for Islamic studies I read.

  • Comment number 28.

    EVERYONE HAS THEIR PRICE - I HOPE I AM NEVER OFFERED MINE - AGAIN (#27link)

    Belated hello Lizzy - now Pipex server is working again.

    That is a chilling piece you have linked. As I have often commented: money and power are like matter and energy; conversion goes either way.
    With maturity - hence integrity - ever-declining, it appears corruption will be complete. One thing is certain:

    Nick can't fix it.

  • Comment number 29.

    THE EMPEROR IS NAKED AGAIN - OR IS IT ME?

    Dave and his acolyte cohorts, declare of Gaddafi - as if Divine Truth - "bombing one's own people is wrong". I have been wrestling with this, and still can't grasp the INFERENCE that bombing Johnnie Foreigner must, therefore, be OK (even if only relatively so) unless all bombing is wrong, which raises insurmountable problems.

    Is this just a matter of Colonial Cameron suffering from some sort of Victorian, hangover, with a touch of Kiplingesque propriety for good measure - by jingo?

    Naturally, we did not hesitate to annihilate swathes of collateral JF Iraqis, but nevertheless, castigated Saddam for doing something similar. Was it his selectivity, as opposed to our randomness, that was so reprehensible? As I write this I can feel reason departing.

    Does anyone know 'how it works' in the mind of Dictatorial Dave? I suppose one might draw small comfort from the fact our mercenaries love their work of extinction. But why a tyrant has to go abroad to slake his blood-lust, still defeats me; and I don’t remember Tony or IDS ever addressing the matter!

    Can any clear-minded poster explain?

  • Comment number 30.

    'Rival media groups dismissed News Corp's offer as a "whitewash" and said they would "vigorously contest" it.'

    And well 'they' (who, I wonder?) might.

    The notion of a vastly funded, unaccountable, selectively-censorious, but in pockets fanatically contributed-to media empire that reaches out 24/7 is a concern.

    Personally, if News Corp does not please me, I will simply withdraw my custom.

  • Comment number 31.

    'Lyse Doucet will bring us the latest on what is happening in Libya.'

    I keep popping back to the 'The Editors', but all there is seems to be ..

    /blogs/theeditors/2011/02/reporting_from_libya.html

    Closed for comments, ironically. Otherwise one might overcome that difficulty to opine there seem to be a surfeit now, and the problem seems more getting a slot on or in Col./mini-Col's sofa or SUV to help broadcast their 'vision'.

    Must be an LSE thing.

  • Comment number 32.

    Barmy Barnsley or Hoodwinked By Hoods

    how do you like your Ostrich Eggs Fried or Boiled .. Scrambelled with A hint of Plankton

  • Comment number 33.

    Doesn't look as though Nick will be able to fix it Barrie! ; )



    Into the wilderness the LDs go again.

    I wonder what result an AV vote would have produced? People voted in quite large numbers for a lot of different candidates didn't they.

  • Comment number 34.

    Dr Starkey's Stark %20 Cut Across The Board hits The Nail

    800K is better than Nowt

    No Fly Zone Libya with what Mothballed Tiger Moths

    unbuilt Aicraft Carriers No Catapults No Planes start Flapping

  • Comment number 35.

    Why is it in Britain foreign is good and British is bad?

  • Comment number 36.

    27 If we are shocked then we are the idiots. the writing has been on the wall for a decade and has systemically been labelled as a criminal topic of debate.

  • Comment number 37.

    Last night a thought came to me about Cameron's no fly zone slip up . At first thought its the thing to do if your an Arab wanting to deal with Gaddafi, any western doing that is upping provocation and tensions already at a terrible level. Then it came to me that part of the trigger maybe that he is selling weapons - planes, putting the idea into local heads to buy.

    The intro shot to the book stuff - it was most lovely.

  • Comment number 38.

    CHAMPAGNE-CORK PADDY - BLAGGING LIKE BLAIR (#33 link)

    What a revealing mess Lizzy! Unfair to say 'The LibDems' got a kicking; more: 'Dave was tarred and feathered, with warlord Cable debagged'. The rank and file LibDems voted with relative honour.

    Even at this late hour, NICK COULD ADMIT ERROR, BORN OF IMMATURE NEED and depart with dignity, if not honour; BUT ONLY AFTER DISSOLVING THE DISGRACEFUL COALITION. (Ignore any signatures Nick - they don't count.)

    First we SPOILPARTYGAMES then we take WESTMINSTER.

    In passing: I watched Jeremy Hunt closely - THE WAY I USED TO WATCH BLAIR. Hunt is a man masking something, and using ALL THE BEST WORDS for his purpose. Paradoxically, political truth comes out of the same LEFT HAND BOX as the political lie; and they are both OK by Westminster. It's a great British tradition.

  • Comment number 39.

    Gaddafi's pal gives him a wake up call :-

  • Comment number 40.

    "Utah Pushes To Accept Gold, Silver As Alternative Currency"

  • Comment number 41.

    I HAVE ASKED THE CONSERVATIVE PARTY HOW TO MAKE FORMAL ADDRESS

    I have had no reply. I contacted the office of co-chairmen (Baroness Warsi and what'shisname) but have had no reply. In the past, I have contacted Baroness Warsi - and got no reply. Does that sound like democracy to you?

    I am trying to raise the issue of the 'liar flyer' - you know the one. My MP (Conservative) who did very well (!) in the 2010 election, wherein the flyer was deployed, has 'dismissed' me so I can't appeal to his 'good' offices.

    Something is rotten in the State of Britain. I can prove it - but I can't get anything done about it. Does that sound like democracy to you?
    The way things are going, I shall be forced to stay alive until 2015 and then personally, physically, SPOIL CONSERVATIVE GAMES in Newbury. (How odd that the insertion of 'Conservative' avoids the usual PROFANITY filter blocking of my post (:o)

    One thing is sure: Neither parties, nor MPs, of Westminster have a shred of honour. The use of that title degrades the very word.

    SPOIL WESTMINSTER GAMES

  • Comment number 42.

    27 langauge does not necessarily mean the same thing in different social structures.

    a phrase such as 'facilitate the understanding of' can legitimately mean quite different things in secular vs. non-secular cultures.

  • Comment number 43.

    NOW THEY HAVE GOT ME PLAYING GAMES (#41 additional)

    If you grapple with the Westminster Malaise for long enough, it infects your mental processes. I had, of course forgotten that just as Conservative Maggie declared 'No such thing as Society', there is NO SUCH THING AS THE CONSERVATIVE PARTY. (And certainly no Sanity Clause to its constitution.)

    When I posted #41, I had completely forgotten the non-entity status of The Conservative Party - hadn't I. Would I lie to you?

    SPOILPARTYGAMES

  • Comment number 44.

    WELL ASSERTED WAPPAHO (#42)

    A case in point is when 'torture' is translated from English to American, and 'fraud' from Low English to High English.

    I have avoided the religious arena - all those books by the same Author? I don't think so! But which are fraudulent?

  • Comment number 45.

    #41 barrie - about 13 years ago I was after Arts funding and came across some petty corruption, spoke to other arts organisations about it and my experience was confirmed so I contacted my local MP - no reply. informed the Director of the organisation, big mistake my name got trashed and no replies to correspondence. While the person's blatant behaviour got rewarded with a directorship of another Arts Organisation. Big lesson for me that was.

    We dont mean anything other than to be debt/tax slaves - we live in a kleptocracy which is what embezzlement by the Fractional Reserve Banking system factually is with the fascard of democracy of two parties who are always beholden to banks usury .

  • Comment number 46.

    Dear oh dear, John's expensive



    I thought he was a socialist, and didn't like taking money from the poor ; )

  • Comment number 47.

    Torture

    any keen consumer of whodunnit and detective fiction will have observed the reliance placed by the police on confession.

    in the past it was virtually impossible to convict without confession, less so in the era of DNA evidence.

    going back to film noir it is evident that confession was considered redemption.

    but if one wishes to be redeemed by a different system than one is questioned by, then what incentive is there for confession?

    i see that, inter-system interface, as being the context in which the escalation of interrogation techniques has taken place in recent years - not that i am advocating, simply observing.

    Fraud
    yes indeed, the different emphasis placed on the same activity in lower and upper stratas is the perennial sauce for the goose. Tax-avoidance vs. Benefit-scrounging. Public-scrounging vs. Benefit-attraction.

  • Comment number 48.

    LIVING THE DREAM (#45)

    The most valuable lessons are expensive, aren't they flicks. So annoying that they can't be applied for the greater good.

    I had one of those 'real' dreams a couple of nights back, the situation just got more desperate - but I woke. This nightmare would seem to be 'real'. No chance of escape by waking (although so many are asleep in the metaphorical sense).

    Such a pity our flagship news and c/a medium is pathetic.


  • Comment number 49.

    I don't think usury is the problem. usury is to some extent transparent.

    Facilitated payments can also be problematic and they are less transparent.

    "The LSE is said to have received no more than £300,000 of the £1.5 million it was due from Libya. "

    but ["the LSE’s Centre for Middle Eastern Studies got £9 million from the United Arab Emirates." - no delay in payment there]

    I'd rather work with fixed interest rates and strive to make them fairer to those who don't happen to work in the finance sector. I don't have the time for, or interest in, haggling.

  • Comment number 50.

    THAT'S NOT FAIR! (#49)

    That government is 'selling' us FAIRNESS in exchange for liking them enough to re-elect, shows their animal instinct for our juvenile state. A mature society would not concern itself with fairness (certainly not make a pretence that it can even be approximated). Mature governance manages the inherent unfairness of nature and mitigates it to a sustainable degree. Nature is not fair; the day She becomes so is the beginning of the end.

    It seems to me that, should we ever achieve a mature society, the issue of fair interest rates will not arise; but in our current juvenile state, it cannot be achieved.

  • Comment number 51.

    "What's it really worth?"



    "Users are fickle, and young users will gravitate to the next exciting new thing."

    "Investors may wonder when the next bright young kid will eat Facebook's lunch and make it look like a site for old fogies. Facebook may adapt, but it would do itself favors by disclosing its revenues, and how it plans to face up to potential competitors."

  • Comment number 52.

    @ Ecolizzy #27 - well unfortunately Britian is bankrupt, so needs all the funding it can get :o(

  • Comment number 53.



    This is what happens when you have a hierarchical structure; if the top is rotten Greshems Law kicks in and its pollutes everything. Just take a look at the meds prescribed for migraine, the side effects are such that any objective review would ban them. Here is Sumatriptan one of the least dangerous :-

  • Comment number 54.


    50 if babies are born with inequalities in metabolsim is it not fair to apportion unequal amounts of money to their health care? would a mature society not seek to elect representatives who do not ignore the effects and costs of such natural inequality?

    53 if a house is built with asbestos is that evidence that building houses is inherently dangerous? surely what matters is the ideology with which we build our hierarchies.




  • Comment number 55.

    Anyone heard UKIP being discussed on the Ö÷²¥´óÐã?



    No thought not! : (

  • Comment number 56.

    UKIP IKIP - EVERYBODY LOVES A GOOD KIP (#55)

    They did get a mention on Daily Politics Lizzy. I think it amounted to dismissal as faux LibDems for the redirected protest vote.

  • Comment number 57.

    The effect of the price of gold :-



    Silver will start to be the new gold especially if US QE continues this year - $50 is on the cards. And the UK puts 20% VAT on silver - the peoples money - just to rub it in when people finally realise whats happening and look to join the party.

  • Comment number 58.

    all this far-this and far-that is a nonsense.

    the issues are:

    wealth redistribution vs. greed

    public sector vs. telesales

    multiculturalism vs. multiracial westernism

    britain vs. europe

    conservatives score b, b, b, b
    ukip scores a, b, b, a
    labour scores b, a, a, b
    greens score a, a, a, b



  • Comment number 59.

    This is significant :-

  • Comment number 60.

    This comment was removed because the moderators found it broke the house rules. Explain.

  • Comment number 61.

    '58. At 2:54pm on 04 Mar 2011, wappaho wrote:
    all this far-this and far-that is a nonsense.


    Can't argue.

    the issues are:

    Just, a little intrigued as who decided that.

    ...score

    And then voted.

  • Comment number 62.

    i love it when kirsty gives foreigners long winded multi clause questions full of complex idioms in mumbled scottish. no wonder they look bamboozled most of the time.

    what was the cameraman trying to do in the swoop in on kirsty? seemed a bit pervy.

    so ebay book section is going to be flooded with 'unwanted gifts'?

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