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I once got into a 'heated debate' with a lady who said she was from 'Tray-leck'.

"Where?"

'Tray-leck'.

I asked her to spell it, and I then said..

"Oh, Trelech"

"Well, I suppose how you pronounce it depends on where you come from."

There then followed an argument that the 主播大秀 would get nowhere if they had more than one 'correct' way of pronouncing these names, but I have to say, she was not convinced...

You wonder who told him? Certainly not the 主播大秀, especially if it was (as it is now) the lickspittle mouthpiece of the government of the day!

Independent, impartial? Give us a break!

Mrs Powys (or is it Montgomeryshire?) is so feart of the English Democrats, she merely seeks to belittle them. Fearless investigative journalist she aint! More like the cat's mother. She's not even funny! Not surprising with similarly partisan Newsnight experience under her belt.

Too much to expect 主播大秀 Wales to give fair coverage to the hated English, isn't it boyo? Referenda and democracy are sooo dangerous aren't they?

If you posted your comments in Welsh gobbledy gook, your effusions would be even more redundant.

Bedd, not sure there is such a thing as a 'correct' pronunciation. Caerphilly has always been 'Kufily' to me, but others will emphasise the 'Caer'. Nobody's right, nobody鈥檚 wrong: we're just different. Any attempt to ignore that by picking one pronunciation over another as a matter of policy is just going to create division and bad feeling where none is necessary. Let 主播大秀 journalists pronounce place names in the way that is most natural to them.

Bill, thank you...and goodnight.

Bill Beesk: Welsh gobbledy gook? I take it you don't understand the language, but does that make it any less legitimate? Is Chinese, Japanese, German, Portugese ... for example ... gobbledy gook too?

And to claim anyone is actually 'feart of the English Democrats' is beyond a joke!

Missed the point have we, Monwysyn?

It's not a question of 'legitimacy', more one of relevance!

See what I mean? Having written this in English, I don't suppose you do.

Of course, the 主播大秀 and you are feart! You're best assessed by what you do, not what you boast.

The fact is you and 主播大秀 Wales don't like real democracy, 'cos it might bite back. This is why you are so intolerantly dismissive of English Democrats, and that's no joke! Sad really.

I would say that to speak the language of one's country is extremely relevant.

And talking of relevance and democracy, can you point me in the direction of %s of votes cast for the English Democrats in ANY elections?

If the English Democrats wish to "claim Monmouth back", then does Wales have a right to claim back the lands of their forefathers, the Brythoniaid, i.e. England.

I suppose a bit of humour in politics does no harm.

I bet Betsan is thinking she should change to her surname from Powys to Mrs Merton...

'Let's have a heated debate !'

Ifor Williams wrote: "If the English Democrats wish to "claim Monmouth back", then does Wales have a right to claim back the lands of their forefathers, the Brythoniaid, i.e. England."

I was born in the capital of Dumnonia, which was Isca Dumnoniorum. Dumnonia was the territory occupied by the Brythonic people and included what are now known as Cornwall, Devon, Somerset, Dorset and Wiltshire. I suspect that I am celtic both on my paternal and maternal sides, probably moreso than many people who regard themselves as Welsh!

Even so, I regard myself as English.

But seriously, why do people with a poor case (Scots are the same!) have to scratch around and go back centuries to find a the basis, however tenuous, for an argument against a referendum?

The fact is, like or not, Monmouthshire is clearly specified in the Local Government Act of 1933 as being part of England.

So, all those anti-English claims that "Monmouthshire was never English!" or "Monmouthshire has always been Welsh!" are simply untrue. Here's a novel suggestion: let's ask the people. Let's risk a bit of democracy for once, or is that too dangerous for the Welsh?

Down with Welsh whimsy for once!

Porkhunt is obviously overcome by his own verbosity. He is soooo prolix! (That's English, albeit from a Latin root, for being irrelevantly gobby on paper. For many Celts it comes naturally.)

Cutting to the chase, just consult the Local Government Act 1933 old sticker! It's all there! Y'don't have to go back centuries to fabricate a feeble case!

You might not believe this, but I regard a statute enacted in 1933 as having far more legal authority than old Will's throw away lines! I also know that any provisions in 16th Century legislation (even if they it were ordered by a Welsh line of Kings of England) as not prevailing where over-ridden by subsequent legislation.

Either grow up, or stick to your pig hunting. Watch out though! If, whilst in England, you come within range of my bow and arrow! According to your ancient notions, I still have the right to kill a Welshman on sight! Now there'sa thought. :-)

Monwysyn wrote:
"I would say that to speak the language of one's country is extremely relevant.

And talking of relevance and democracy, can you point me in the direction of %s of votes cast for the English Democrats in ANY elections?"

I DO communicate in my native language! Nothing to stop you doing it in Welsh ~ see how far that gets you. THAT'S the point! Savvy?

Why do you ask about the English Democrats' electoral record? Don't tell me! You've some benign purpose in mind? As they say in Glasga', "I wasna dragged up the Clyde in a barra'!" :-)

There are two points here. On the one hand, I doubt whether any significant proportion of people give the English Democrats much credence. That said, it is a democracy and there are doubtless some people who share their views, so let them have their 5 mins on the stump. They'll have their say then they'll probably go away.

Secondly, and perhaps more seriously, its certainly the case that there are some pretty deep vested interests in 主播大秀 Wales political (and other news) coverage that slants what they broadcast. The truth of the matter is that a good number of 主播大秀 Wales reporters - and indeed, senior management in the organisation - are dyed-in-the-wool, card-carrying Welsh nationalists. There's a particular type of ideology and passion at work with nationalism which perhaps makes it harder to leave one's political convictions at the door when arriving at work.
Much of the 主播大秀 Wales reporting therefore that involves nationalist or Welsh-language politics should be seen through that prism and regarded with caution.

While much political coverage, across the board, displays bias of one sort of another, either subtle or overt (the agendas of newspaper proprietors being the most obvious of course), we should be under no illusions that 主播大秀 Wales coverage of this or any election is any more un-biased than say, the Guardian or The Sun.

Don't condemn them though, for (sadly) they know not what they do!

Actually Bill, you were not born in Gloucester. To be eligible to shoot a welshman with a bow and arrow, it must be from the walls of gloucester, after midnight and before sunrise, by a resident born in gloucester. Wales is a principality, a land of princes. Reading your messages, it proves to me england is a country. think about it.

No they won't will they, because the 主播大秀 and the electoral system is a corrupted poor excuse for democracy.

Both institutions require a major shake up and let's hope in the not too distant future our country will be saved from you both.