THE BIG QUESTION: WHAT DID ANNIE SAY?
New to BH? Watch out, this post contains spoilers from series one...
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We've had a couple of fun posts for the past two big questions, but now it's time to get back to business.Ìý And by 'business' I mean the cold, hard business of a ghost tormenting her murdering ex-fiancé with words that managed to turn the man insane.Ìý THAT, my friends, is some serious business.Ìý
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So this week, the big question is...
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"What on earth did Annie whisper to Owen?"
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It's the comment that changed everything...Ìý The comment that turned Owen from cocky criminal to snivelling coward in just a few short lines.Ìý
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With Annie's knowledge of the afterlife they could be the most powerful words in the whole of Being Human...Ìý Do you have an idea what they might have been?
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Comment number 1.
At 17th Apr 2009, vampfan wrote:Wow, nice one BH wasnt expecting that...will go away and think about this one
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At 17th Apr 2009, singingtwit wrote:hmmm... my money is on the men with sticks and ropes she and Mitchell spoke about the pilot.
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At 17th Apr 2009, singingtwit wrote:You really are spoiling us today... :)
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At 17th Apr 2009, Shell wrote:ha ha I like Bexter's comment about this one - I'll let her say it though. yes, definitely what she saw when she died - it must be pretty awful - too awful for human comprehension I'd imagine.
The men with sticks and ropes conjure up some nasty images of hell, like in Dante's Inferno *shudders*
Maybe she also told him when he would die, or how (maybe Toby's got a nasty demise planned for him?!)
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At 17th Apr 2009, vampfan wrote:Still not got an answer but a thought...when Mitchell and Herrick are waiting for the new vamp to wake up, Mitchell says something about "The things he'll have seen" I think Annie tells Owen about these things...all I'va got to do now is work out what they are.
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At 17th Apr 2009, Shell wrote:BH Production.....are we actually ever going to find out what she said....I have some easter eggs left over
*contemplates bribing BH production with yummy chocolate*
It does make you wonder, why, when Mitchell knows the things Annie has seen, he left Lauren (and Bernie?) to wake up on their own? That must have been awful.
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At 17th Apr 2009, Shell wrote:I do think it's Owen that will die next series by the way - and then he's invincible to Annie, Mitchell and George. Either that, or he's going to hire an exorcist to get rid of Annie. Anyway, sorry that's a bit OT.
And it appears I'm talking to myself. lol
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Comment number 8.
At 17th Apr 2009, vampfan wrote:Nope, still around but very busy flicking between two pages and watching the vampire film every 37 seconds
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At 17th Apr 2009, Shell wrote:Great - so I'm not turning into an insane person talking to herself - lol. And yes, vampire film is indeed addictive viewing.
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Comment number 10.
At 17th Apr 2009, bumpkin wrote:Hmmm, I am not a believer of hell in the conventional sense, so I'm not sure. I was brought up to think that heaven was peace and love and everyone you knew and some choices about what to do next. And I was taught that hell was just everything you could possibly want EXCEPT love and everyone you know - materialistic bliss but total loneliness. I'm not sure that would have affected Owen at all though, or frightened Annie, Mitchell and that guy that Mitchell helped Herrick to recruit, so I have absolutely no idea.
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Comment number 11.
At 17th Apr 2009, bumpkin wrote:Can't believe I'm going off-topic already, sorry, but I'll be quick (and it was the heaven/hell ideas which reminded me) - anyone else see 'Deborah 13' on Ö÷²¥´óÐã3? That scared the hell out of me! I don't want to offend anyone but I really can't believe people would live like that and bring their children into it
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At 17th Apr 2009, bumpkin wrote:I may have to report myself to the mods or comment 11 though! I honestly didn't mean to offend anyone or go too far off-topic *hides*
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Comment number 13.
At 17th Apr 2009, bumpkin wrote:*for comment 11, not or ('f' key is broken)
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Comment number 14.
At 17th Apr 2009, brookesey wrote:sperkii you naughty girl!
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Comment number 15.
At 17th Apr 2009, brookesey wrote:I think Annie tells Owen something about hell maybe? Or about his own death,cos he seems to have that on his mind afterwards, the fact that someone is going to kill him.
sorry, you wont get alot of sense out of me this afternoon, it's the Mitchell film on the other blog, it's totally done for me.
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Comment number 16.
At 17th Apr 2009, singingtwit wrote:every 37 secs that's very exact vampfan!
Sperkii (11) I saw it when it was on a few weeks ago, couldn't believe it, I'm christian, but that came off as ALMOST being a cult, the way she spoke about it, she didn't seem to be able to talk to anyone without suggesting that they would be going to hell unless they repented of all their sins every second of every day, and don't get me started on the creationist vs. evolution... so closed minded. I can't understand why anyone would want to bring up a child in a way that hinders their ability to interact socially, madness.
Back to topic... sticks and ropes, I know I said it before, but I'm trying to stay on topic as we are still in the teens here!
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Comment number 17.
At 17th Apr 2009, vampfan wrote:brooksie : know what you mean about the film.
Your 15 I may be wrong but I wouldn't have thought that Annie would know about hell cos she was murdered. She certainly knows something very nasty but not sure if it is about hell, but then again I have no idea what it could be.....I'll give it more thought!!
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Comment number 18.
At 17th Apr 2009, bumpkin wrote:singing - exactly. I'm by no means atheist but that type of christianity (or extreme of any religion) is just scary. What do you think of my thoughts in comment 10?
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Comment number 19.
At 17th Apr 2009, bumpkin wrote:vamp - what did you do?!
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Comment number 20.
At 17th Apr 2009, brookesey wrote:blimey vampfan's in trouble today!!
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Comment number 21.
At 17th Apr 2009, brookesey wrote:I watched it too, and I'm a christian but I thought she was awful, she had no idea of how to interact socially outside of her tiny little homelife. also they seemed to be a fairly well off family - big self sufficient house in the country, loads of kids, lots of land - and there she is trying to talk to people from the real world. what are her parents doing to them all? and they had no tv but internet access? what's that all about?
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Comment number 22.
At 17th Apr 2009, singingtwit wrote:Vampfan - twice in one day... tsk tsk tsk!
Brooksie - yeah I thought the internet access thing was weird too, maybe they've got incredibly tight parental controls on theirs. I can understand not having a TV in the house, but why would you then allow the internet in, that's just asking for touble.
Sperkii - I'm not sure if that image is strong enough to have scared Owen so much. Did you ever hear the story about heaven and hell where both places have these tables filled with amazing food but in hell everyone is starving while in heaven everyone has plenty and it all comes down to the spoons, both heaven and hell only have these very long handled spoons so it is impossible to feed yourself hence everyone in hell starving, but in heaven they feed each other, that image of heaven and hell always stuck with me from an early age, which I guess is similar to what you were saying. I think for Owen to be driven insane she would have had to tell him something horrific, something about death that only someone who has died could/should know, hence Mitchell and Annie not wanting George to know, anything less and they'd have told George. I'm assuming Mitchell knows what Annie told Owen, his reaction when George asks suggests he does, which to me means it has to be about death and being dead.
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Comment number 23.
At 17th Apr 2009, brookesey wrote:I've heard the spoon story too singingtwit.
I think it must be something absoulutely terrible to do with what she has seen but also related to Owen himself, to totally turn him loopy like that, something to do with his own death maybe.
maybe something which only Owen knows, other than Annie and she knows only because she saw it when she died. it was revealed to her or something.
I dont think we will ever know what it is she says, Toby will never reveal it.
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At 17th Apr 2009, bumpkin wrote:singing, yeah I had heard that story too and it's exactly along the same lines. I was brought up to think that, if there is a God, he/she/it wouldn't send anyone to a horrific place, just a place where they could learn what was important and (not to sound to 'naughty step' about it) think about what they had done.
I find this question a bit hard because of that, as I don't think death or the afterlife are things to fear at all.
So I hope it was something horrific and scary about life, rather than death, that Annie said to Owen. There are certainly many scary and horrific things in life
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Comment number 25.
At 17th Apr 2009, bumpkin wrote:brooksie, yes I reckon it should remain unsaid as well
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Comment number 26.
At 17th Apr 2009, diamonair wrote:IM BACK!!
Hmmm, yeah, That's something i always wanted to know.
But yeah, i think it should remain unsaid, but i think it might have something to do with me men with sticks and rope??
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Comment number 27.
At 17th Apr 2009, singingtwit wrote:maybe it's a truth about life that is only learned once you are dead, like I said they wouldn't tell George, which means it could have sent him insane as well... I keep coming back to the men with sticks and ropes.
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At 17th Apr 2009, singingtwit wrote:But agree should remain unknown, nothing that can be revealed can be scarier than the weird things us lot can conjure up in our minds!
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Comment number 29.
At 17th Apr 2009, diamonair wrote:Yeah, we do make up some random things, huh?
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Comment number 30.
At 17th Apr 2009, superOchre wrote:Haven't read any other posts yet..
So at first I was pretty convinced that Annie was telling Owen what happened to murderers in the afterlife because I couldn't imagine that he would be scared by the revelation of the trios powers.
BUT after watching again I noticed another comment (which has completely left me- maybe from Owen-saying 'what they said they'd do to me') that led me to believe it was about how the trio would torture him. But also could have been about the afterlife of course.
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Comment number 31.
At 17th Apr 2009, bumpkin wrote:I really hate that thought though. It's the only thing I haven't liked.
Still, I suppose it shows how 'human' they've made the show. If it were a more blatant supernatural thing I guess I could easily dream up horrible things it could have been.
*reminds self that Being Human is JUST A SHOW*
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Comment number 32.
At 17th Apr 2009, bumpkin wrote:arrrgh, posts in between what I was talking about! I meant I didn't like the sticks and ropes thing
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Comment number 33.
At 17th Apr 2009, brookesey wrote:of course, she could have told him about the fluorescent shell suits used in Being Human - the musical, that would send anyone round the bend!
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Comment number 34.
At 17th Apr 2009, superOchre wrote:And I'm atheist, I believe that we just die. Just thought I'd add that pointless fact there because everyone else is doing it.
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Comment number 35.
At 17th Apr 2009, bumpkin wrote:super, I hope you're right (although I hope she was just making threats to scare him, rather than it being something they'd ever actually do)
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Comment number 36.
At 17th Apr 2009, bumpkin wrote:arrgh, you beat me again. Obviously I don't personally agree with the atheist thing. I mean I hope you're right about what Annie said
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Comment number 37.
At 17th Apr 2009, bumpkin wrote:brookesie (33) hahaha
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Comment number 38.
At 17th Apr 2009, brookesey wrote:super - straight to the point as usual "we just die"
you are indeed super!
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Comment number 39.
At 17th Apr 2009, superOchre wrote:I thought that Annie could have told him that they'd torture him because she undergoes a dramatic personality transplant after that.
But just to have the power to tell him what will happen when he dies could have caused it as well.
The afterlife thing would be better of course. But I'm a bit more life orientated (being an atheist) so I would try to focus it on the here and now maybe.
Sorry my writing will be terribly disjointed today, not sure why, just a weird day, can't concentrate.
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Comment number 40.
At 17th Apr 2009, singingtwit wrote:Brookesie (33) lol, see much scarier than men with sticks and ropes
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Comment number 41.
At 17th Apr 2009, vampfan wrote:There are determined to spoil my day;; The first time, they misunderstood and were wrong. This time, at the moment I honestly can't remember what I said....but it will come to me....and even I am not stupid enough to push my luck twice. How likely is it that after all these months on these blogs and never offending or upsetting anyone, I suddenly do it twice in one day!!!
That feels better!
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Comment number 42.
At 17th Apr 2009, superOchre wrote:lol brookes- was that weird then.. what I said? Seems perfectly normal to me.
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Comment number 43.
At 17th Apr 2009, singingtwit wrote:Super (39) at least you're not having to translate everything into English... I'm having a German day, I'm thinking in German, English is not coming as naturally today... very odd.
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Comment number 44.
At 17th Apr 2009, superOchre wrote:countdown to post 41's deletion... 5, 4... ;)
Don't take it personally vf. They have two blogs to mod today.
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Comment number 45.
At 17th Apr 2009, singingtwit wrote:poor vampfan :(
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Comment number 46.
At 17th Apr 2009, singingtwit wrote:super (44) lol, that's wicked and I'm still laughing
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Comment number 47.
At 17th Apr 2009, diamonair wrote:awww, vampfan, the moderators are picking on you.
[I bet this comment is going to get moderated now because i said that]
oh god, im bursting into tears every few minutes, Mitchell's Greatest Moments has turned me into jelly.
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Comment number 48.
At 17th Apr 2009, vampfan wrote:Got it now, I think I was responding to brooksies 15 about whether Annie would know about hell....nothing to upset anyone....obviously its more to do with my name today than anything I actually say
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Comment number 49.
At 17th Apr 2009, brookesey wrote:superOchre - 34 nah, it was just great the way you came out with it! straight to the point, no frills attached.
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Comment number 50.
At 17th Apr 2009, brookesey wrote:are you trying to implicate me in your naughtiness, vampfan?!??
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Comment number 51.
At 17th Apr 2009, brookesey wrote:dimonair - the Mitchell vid has done for me too I'm afraid, it's a wonder I can give any semblance at all to thinking straight tonight.
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Comment number 52.
At 17th Apr 2009, superOchre wrote:Oh good, thought I'd said something weird then. Well yeah that's pretty much it. Born, live, die. Sometimes I think people over complicate things.
But I totally appreciate and understand other viewpoints. Infact I think it's better to believe than not.
Ohhh way too deep, I blame the music that's playing at the moment.
Back in 10. :)
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Comment number 53.
At 17th Apr 2009, vampfan wrote:No brooksie, you made a vaild point and I thought I was replying in a sensible manner........and (George-ish) No and No please don't call it naughtiness
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Comment number 54.
At 17th Apr 2009, diamonair wrote:did anyone miss me? i was on holiday for 5 days.
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Comment number 55.
At 17th Apr 2009, brookesey wrote:I had a comment moderated once vampfan, I can't even remember what I said, they never put it back up tho, so it will be forever a mystery. and I never swear on here or anything, I dont know what they look for to moderate,
you watch,this one will get done now!
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Comment number 56.
At 17th Apr 2009, superOchre wrote:singingtwit. 43.
I'm still very impressed by your multiple language skills whilst inebriated (really hoping you are the same person who said that on the forum now :s )
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Comment number 57.
At 17th Apr 2009, superOchre wrote:I missed you diamonair! Hope you had a nice holiday.
OK lets stop chasing deletions that's just silly.
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Comment number 58.
At 17th Apr 2009, diamonair wrote:thank you super, you're the first person to talk to me today.
come on, Bh fans, lets think of another conversation topic.
er..any good ideas, im in dreamworld from that Mitchell vid.
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Comment number 59.
At 17th Apr 2009, vampfan wrote:brooksie : Its my own fault cos I was miffed after the first one and have been having little digs.....As Mitchell would say leaning on a wall, arms folded.....something about pay-back!!! Anyway onwards, forgotten now.
Gonna watch the vid, that'll cheer me up.(apart from the fact that it keeps making me cry!)
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Comment number 60.
At 17th Apr 2009, brookesey wrote:where did you go on hols dimonair, was the weather ok?
no good asking me to think anything sensible tonight, I've overdosed on the Mitcell video today.
back in 5, got to scrub youngest child in the bath
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Comment number 61.
At 17th Apr 2009, superOchre wrote:If you feel that you're getting annoyed just throw a mard, that seems to work well for me. ;)
It is difficult if you have a blog with posters who have been on here a long while. It's not intentional to ignore people I just think it's familiarity.
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Comment number 62.
At 17th Apr 2009, superOchre wrote:*annoyed should say ignored btw.
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Comment number 63.
At 17th Apr 2009, Oh_Suzi wrote:I reckon she whispered - Ive told everyone you're mediocre in bed. I used to be a man, when you die you'l be wearing Georges orange shirt and whe you go to hell the men with sticks and rope will show you all sorts of unspeakable things they can do with a mouli grater & none of them involve parsley. There's no BH in heaven but they have Eldorado on 24 hour repeat
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Comment number 64.
At 17th Apr 2009, Oh_Suzi wrote:that should state there's no BH in HELL!
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Comment number 65.
At 17th Apr 2009, Oh_Suzi wrote:& hello diamonair :)
and all the rest of you bloggers, old n new
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Comment number 66.
At 17th Apr 2009, Lionesskeeper wrote:'When you die, men with sticks poke your pathetic body till it's tender'
or
'I knew about the DVDS'
or
'I saw Elvis briefly, and man was he p***ed with you'
or
'You Are No Alone'(waitaminute, sorry that's Doctor Who)
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Comment number 67.
At 17th Apr 2009, brookesey wrote:oh_suzi lol!!! that is class, mate.
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Comment number 68.
At 17th Apr 2009, vampfan wrote:oh suzi: 63 I like that one but Elderado, does even Owen deserve that
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Comment number 69.
At 17th Apr 2009, diamonair wrote:Thanks for the tips Super! im just a bit miserable, 3 hours in the car [which kept breaking down] doesn't do no good.
And brooksie, i went to walkes, nothing abroad.
Back in 10 =]
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Comment number 70.
At 17th Apr 2009, superOchre wrote:SUZI- That's a lot scarier than what we've come up with so far.
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Comment number 71.
At 17th Apr 2009, brookesey wrote:do you mean wales, dimonair?
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Comment number 72.
At 17th Apr 2009, superOchre wrote:'I knew about the DVD's'
lol lioness :D
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Comment number 73.
At 17th Apr 2009, Oh_Suzi wrote:the though of a neon tracksuit was quite scary!
Ok lets say that hell was a place of personal torment, what would it be like for you?
(without being too mental, keep it light! no demons jabbing red hot pokers at your buttocks etc)
Mine would have all this cheese & chocolate available, but every time I ate it, it would turn into peanut butter or roast pork.
& the smell of peanut butter & bad eggs would be constanly lingering in the air.
Id have a tv with a million channels but there'd never be anything but adverts, when stunts go bad 3 and an eternal eastenders omnibus on. Id constantly be having to do 24hour stints of essay writing to meet a dealine & then Id accidentally wipe all the work off once id finished.
R & B Music playing in the background. Id have an itch on my back that I cant quite reach, Id always need a wee but there's never a toilet around.
& Id have to share a house with people I cant stand.
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Comment number 74.
At 17th Apr 2009, Oh_Suzi wrote:oh & one of them would have a big fat randy dog thats all dribbly & keeps trying to lick my face
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Comment number 75.
At 17th Apr 2009, diamonair wrote:yeah i did brookes, thanks. Im a bit tired, climbed snowdon yesterday!
you know what im wondering?
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Comment number 76.
At 17th Apr 2009, vampfan wrote:Hell would be constant Monday mornings, having to live on celery, carrots and chocolate with jazz music playing constantly. I would have to iron shirts all day and there would be no Mitchell
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Comment number 77.
At 17th Apr 2009, Oh_Suzi wrote:hah theres a small piece of your hell on Ö÷²¥´óÐã4 at the mo tuneless jarring jazz all day & presumably no Mitchell on that channell either - at least tomorrow is saturday
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Comment number 78.
At 17th Apr 2009, superOchre wrote:melted chocolate hell.
or.. a repeated memory in my life of this boy pulling my trousers down in the playground when I was 10.
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Comment number 79.
At 17th Apr 2009, brookesey wrote:what u wonderin dimonair?
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Comment number 80.
At 17th Apr 2009, Oh_Suzi wrote:20% more people die from heart attacks on a Monday mornings than any other time.
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Comment number 81.
At 17th Apr 2009, brookesey wrote:when I was 11 at leavers assembly I went up to the front to collect a certificate and my prefect's sash fell down and when I pulled it up the whole school and all the parents saw my knickers!!
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Comment number 82.
At 17th Apr 2009, diamonair wrote:If i was in Hell...
There would be Being Human on the only channel i couldn't get,
Only one Muller Corner and the lid wouldn't come off,
Only one computer and it wouldn't turn on,
Neverending climbing of Mount Snowdon,
My favourite horse, China, would be constantly lame,
I would be swimming in homework,
Toby Whithouse would be locked in a cage with no means of being able to write series 2,
Aiden, Russel and Lenora would be replaced by cheesy actors,
This website wouldn't work,
And i would have constant writer's block.
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Comment number 83.
At 17th Apr 2009, superOchre wrote:ouch! yep, that would be hell if it was constantly re-lived.
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Comment number 84.
At 17th Apr 2009, superOchre wrote:oh god yes! No BH series 2!!
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Comment number 85.
At 17th Apr 2009, diamonair wrote:i am wondering whether they will do Lauren's Greatest Moments after George and Annie.
Cuz if they do, i would vote:
Mitchell has go annie against the wall by her neck
"Mitchell, your're killing me!"
Her eyes close and her head droops, Mitchell looks confused.
Eyes pop open and Lauren smiles
"Oh no wiat...you already did that."
or
Lauren is outside Mitchell's house.
"Are you going to let me in or not? You have to invite me across the threshold. That is such a silly rule, who made that up?"
or
"It's like Hotel California, you can check out, but you can never leave!"
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Comment number 86.
At 17th Apr 2009, bumpkin wrote:Haha Oh_Suzi (63) - fab
Sorry, diamonair - I honestly thought I'd posted '*waves at diamonar*' when you first posted that you were back but I've just checked back and clearly I was dreaming..sooo *waves at diamonair*
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Comment number 87.
At 17th Apr 2009, superOchre wrote:*Lauren love* :D
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Comment number 88.
At 17th Apr 2009, diamonair wrote:i meant lauren, not annie.
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Comment number 89.
At 17th Apr 2009, brookesey wrote:I would have to eat gammon steaks everyday with pineapple rings, and cabbage and runner beans, with stewed rhubarb for pudding and a pint of bitter that endlessly refilled itself.
my prefect sash would constantly fall down and when I pulled it up I would have no knickers on at all.
Noel Edmunds box game thing would be on telly with constant eastenders, casualty, corrie etc
no bbc 3
and there would be big tanks and pipes and engines all around - I hate em they give me the creeps
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Comment number 90.
At 17th Apr 2009, superOchre wrote:hey sp. How's the reading going? ;)
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Comment number 91.
At 17th Apr 2009, diamonair wrote:oh thanks sperkii!
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Comment number 92.
At 17th Apr 2009, brookesey wrote:VanHelsey has come home now - I may be kicked off the laptop shortly, if I suddenly disappear you know why!!
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Comment number 93.
At 17th Apr 2009, diamonair wrote:i must be really dumb becuase i was putting all these songs on and didn't realise for about quarter of hour that the sound wasn't on.
Dumb or what.
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Comment number 94.
At 17th Apr 2009, bumpkin wrote:super, you know very well how the reading is going, i.e. it isn't!! Finding it very hard to get excited about it.
diamonair, no probs :-)
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Comment number 95.
At 17th Apr 2009, bumpkin wrote:Maybe Annie whispered to Owen that Jaynie had put a mammoth amount of her develops-gradually-after-a-few-hours fake tan into the shower head as revenge and he would soon be as ornage as, well, an orange.
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Comment number 96.
At 17th Apr 2009, bumpkin wrote:*orange
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Comment number 97.
At 17th Apr 2009, diamonair wrote:lol sperkii
orange as an orange
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Comment number 98.
At 17th Apr 2009, diamonair wrote:im off to watch some IT Crowd now, byee
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Comment number 99.
At 17th Apr 2009, bumpkin wrote::-) cheerio *waves*
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Comment number 100.
At 17th Apr 2009, jaynedoll wrote:I like the Elvis comment.
Or maybe Owen had a relative who died and Annie said Guess what I saw your mum/dad, they're being tortured in hell. And you're going to join them.
Although I think not revealing what it actually was is more powerful. Or maybe until Owen is killed in series 2 and comes back all sarcastic saying It wasn't all that bad.
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