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Yay!! Cutler!!
Now that's what I call a birthday present...

Why hellloooo Mr Cutler..... what a nice thing to find on the blog when I arrive :-)

Thank you Rebecca, you really are spoiling us

YAY!!!!!!!!! :D

mr jork

mister york

as henry york?

Ooooh, thank you Rebecca! Off to watch!

OMG!!! I love it =D Thank you! I think Cutler looks like a Nick and Hal's surname is York! Nice =)

From previous blog:

@lozzie I had a cheap pair of wooly boots and they were rubbish. Managed to find a cheap pair of real Uggs the other day so you may get lucky on that front. My original Annie top has holes in it and the material is thin so it is becoming threadbare lol.

Happy birthday Jo and Mitchelline!

Thanks Rebecca - you're spoiling us so much this year. I love it.

OMG! Thanks Rebecca.

*sobs* not Norbert?

I knew it! Hal was Cutler's maker....sometime in the 50s by the look of the police atation and bobbies outfit. So Hal is Hal York (if that's his real name he's using)

2.aquamarine_jo. Happy Birthday :)
3.Thank you Rebecca :D and a preview clip tomorow aswell *smug face*
Happy me. Interesting to see that Harry York was arrested for illegal gambling all sounded rather messy :D
"cell 2.. ask for you specifical"
"Normally we'd tidy this away ourselves"..."It's complicated"
Much love for Roy :P bless him
Ahhh so excited i might burst....
2 sleeps to go.....
*Explodes with happines*

for nonUK peeps..



oh my...

Thanks Inch! And Cutler was just what I wanted for a pressie, even without the gift wrap...

Anyway manners - evening all! RL has been in the way of me posting much lately but have been reading and trying to keep up. Some fabulous discussions and ideas! Hoping to be around more if you'll have me - can I pour anyone a beer? I've even put the crisps in a bowl...

Oh my.... I do like men in suites with sideburns...... I feel a swoon coming on

It does make you think of red shielded Hal being ahem royal one thinks but I know he isnt!! Mascot of a w****house!Maybe he was a royal "snow"

Any coincidence that it was bobbies from Barking that followed Hal?

Watching that clip, couldn't wait for the cell door to open. You just knew it was going to be Hal in there. But how had he heard so much about Cutler?

yes , we have it

@ruby, you have been so good

yes Nick Cutler ... anf Hal or Harry York

our Hal is a Yorkshire lad

fitting

born in 1486, after Bosworth one night stand of a Yorkish Tudor soldier

ok , things get a bit less muddy and Lord Harry is going to 'explain' what it means to get 'noticed' though it will need some tidying up

Illegal gambling in Barking?

That'll be betting on WW's then!

14. I'll have a beer if your pouring :) what flavour are the crisps? hehe
15. I'll join you on that one *Melts a little* :P

Yay! Wonder what Cutler had done to get noticed? And Mr York; nice historical name there.
We got it right on the blog about who turned Cutler! Cupcakes all round...

MWWWHAAHAHAAAAAAAA!! CREEEEEEEEEEEPY.......

So that would account for OMG its him methinks!

Oh, Hal looks deliciously evil in this clip! So, Cutler was a slimeball, I mean *lawyer* before he was recruited!

More nasty Hal please. Harry York? as in house of York? Is it possible he is known as Lord Harry for a very good reason. Blue blood not red.

Thank you Rebbeca that was cracking. *melts into a puddle on the floor.

17 LizzyT....good question...how had Hal heard about Cutler and why did he want to turn him?....i'm guessing that Hal decided that having a solicitor on teamvampires had to be a good thing

Just shown this to my friend and he is sooo excited now. He is a new BH convert =)

(Recruit?)

Can't wait until Sunday!!!!

But the question is, was Cutler actually a slimeball before he was turned?
Being a lawyer notwithstanding and, ahem, some of my best friends are lawyers: is he a decent solicitor who becomes what he is because of radical character change after being turned, or is a slimeball betterbe on the side that's winning by any means necessary attitude just "liberated" (as Herrick would have it) when he becomes a vamp?

Well well well, looks like a lot of you were right that Hal was Cutler's maker! Still quite a shock though. Thanks for the clip Rebecca!

25. My guess is that the vampires who we know have infitrated the police for some time noticed Cutler the solicitor and wanted him as a vampire as he had qualities they prized.

On no sorry that makes no sense whatsover. OOOOPS Sorry re last remark.

By the way...my first job was in Barking....just saying....not in the 1950s I hasten to add...!

Love that! Of all the things Lord Harry could have been put in jail for I can't belive it was illegal gambling. I really hope there are lots more flashbacks in sundays episode :)

Ooooh exciting! That's Lord Harry right there! And we were right, I've been telling everyone who'd listen (and quite a few who'd rather not!) this was my prediction for weeks so glad it was right haha..

So when is this? 50s by the looks of it, Cutler already practising law, Hal about to turn good.. but not quite yet.. Wonder what made him make that final choice, something Cutler went on to do once turned perhaps?

Also presumably that policeman was a vampire too, nice to see it's a longstanding tradition maybe he knew herrick!

25. Dorina. If Hal is an OO then he might have recruited Cutler as part of the whole vampire network. Keeping Vamps out of prison :) Might have been why he was noticed :)
19. nerdyalice. Definitly had to have been WW fights he was gambling on :) nice thought there.

Hal York meet Nick Cutler (yay that i can now mention Cutler's first name and that i knew we'd find out Hal's surname in this ep) and let Beautiful Chaos ensue (the music playing in the background in case you're wondering....)

Oh blimey this is going to be an excellent episode. So, so stoked about it.

Another thought Hal York...Hal *of* York perhaps? (pure speculation of course, but given that the Wars of the Roses ended 29 years prior to Hal's recruitment, it makes me wonder. He could indeed be descended from royalty on the wrong side of the blanket which would make him FitzYork i suppose...shutting up now...)

WOOO! So that's how Hal know's Cutler? Maybe he decided he wanted a lawyer so recruited Cutler so they could cover things up easier?

Evil Hal in suit, can't beat that :P

Now I'm looking forward to Sunday's episode even more! Didn't even think that would be possible.

@JJJJ(28) I was really surprised after the trailer for Ep 7 at the end of PL that everyone didn't just think Hal was Cutler's maker. Couldn't imagine cold fish Cutler hugging anyone else like that except his long lost vampire daddy!

Cutler's Prequel!!! :-D *runs around room whooping*
Would have had Cutler down as a 20s or 80s guy myself, actually, since he's so good at keeping up with current thinking and business strategies.
Hal York... probably where he was born or something. Or just a nice, common, non-committal name. (He might even spell it with an E on the end.)
Regarding what someone said last blog about the menu saying "potatoe cakes": Tom probably wrote it.

@27. No offence meant Lizzy. Just a lawyer joke! Cutler is obviously a good solicitor if he's made a name for himself and he's caught the attention of the vamps!

Whether he was "liberated" on being recruited remains to be seen!

loving Hals suit and more Cutler scenes is always a good thing :D You guys know how to spoil us Being Human fans! :D

YAY YAY YAY YAY YAY YAY YAY YAY YAY!!!! (sorry im a bit over excited!)
I knew Hal was Cutlers maker!! This is a brill clip! I have to say I cant wait to see some flashbacks with 'evil' Hal and some handsome Cutler.

When did we say Hal was roughly recruited?

happy birthday, Aqua
happy birthday, marine
happy birthday dear jo
happy birthday to you

a gift for the jeweller designer

OK. Presumably we now know that Hal made Cutler, that he probably tracked him down for a reason.
However...

Wouldn't it be interesting if Cutler was already a vampire, living under the radar, just wanting a normal life and that's what made Hal look for him and mess with his head and his life - and that's what made Cutler ambitious for power and perhaps just a touch of revenge

Probably not even close but maybe! In my world...

Yay! Aqua first on Blog! happy birthday! What a pressie

OMG!!! I didn't see any of that coming AT ALL!

21 - t&t! Oh yes! You are right! I had 5 cupcakes on that bet! WoooHooo!

Erm... Hal looks really scaaaary... does he not? Sends shivers down my spine.... and *shivers in anticipation* everywhere else! Flashbacks are my absolute faves, they really are!

Thank you Rebecca and everyone for doing such a fantastic job! xxx

Big bad dog 23. That was really what I wanted to say about the legal profession but didn't dare.

I really want some more acting 'evil' from Damien Molony. So believable and delicious. But I dont want Hal to go off his rocker.

33. Yes, certainly appears the bobby is a vampire, or at least fully aware of the situation!

35. I reckon Hal may have grown up in York. The Wars of the Roses seem slightly before his time, and if he was so lowborn I wouldn't have thought he'd particularly identify himself with either the Yorkists or Lancastrians - it would be more a case of just surviving! And as he didn't even know who his mother was, attributing his father to royalty seems a bit unlikely!

lozzie: according to his prequel, the battle of Orsha which was in 1514.

35 ruby...re: Hal's origins...could be ...I suspect that series 4 won't get round to that but maybe if we're lucky enough to get a series 5

Everything I've read about Sunday's episode has me sooo loking forward to what will be a very dramatic ( and probably very dark) episode. I'll be most interested in what caues Hal to fall off the wagon

Thanks Rebecca - well worth the wait
I can't watch with sound just yet (stupid laptop:( ) but from what I can see (& read) it's brill - even if Hal does look slightly menacing.
@aquamarine_jo - happy birthday

Thx SunnyFLA for the link. Great clip :D

i can't help but feel sorry for Cutler. there is something vulnerable about him. Dying to learn more.
14 Aqua i'll have a beer thank you very much. never say no to a cocktail. And aquamarine is my birthstone as well

Hal's smile at the end is real evil

aquamarine_jo firstly Happy birthday

I was thinking the same thing as he could possibly already be a vampire but we are in the minority with that one. Tis a possibility though..

37 @LizzyT - I had a feeling Hal was gonna be Cutler's maker from seeing that preview, but as we all know Being Human can be difficult to predict, so there could have been many stories and possibilities as to why Cutler reacted like that!

I'm pleased Hal is Cutler's maker though, I don't know why, it just seems right.

@BBD oh no offence taken - I just wanted to be able to propose the option that Cutler could be potentially be a decent chap as a human and a lawyer at the same time. It may not be likely but it's possible :)

So what was Mr York gambling on - a dogfight perchance?

WOOP great clip! Thank you so much our fairy blogmother, Rebecca Denton!

Hal York ... hmmm ... distinguished sounding name alright! anybody else panic a little inside, reminded of episode 1 "New Yooork, New Yooork". arrrgh this obviously means Hal is master of time and space and the city is named after him! (I admit I might be getting carried away. I've had some Mi Wadi, not quite Kia-Ora but all cordials really...)

I am intrigued as to what exactly about Cutler caught Hal's attention, how did he show "potential". And what had Hal "heard" about him?! And are we to assume that those gaurds handed Cutler over as dinner for Hal, in the same way the crew on the ship did in the prequel, because they have agreements with the Old Ones?

46. I know, which is why i said, pure speculation. His unknown father could've been affiliated to the house of York, Edward IV had a lot of illegitimate offspring it has been alleged, purely speculative that Hal could've been descended from one of them. It could've been a story one of the occupants of the brothel told him whether true or not and he's ran with it in adult and vampire-hood. (okay, the fan fic writer in me is emerging now). It's fun to guess and speculate.

47. Ruby. Thank you very much.

@ruby

Henry Tudor of the very legitimate house of York had a bastard, at least one official: a French lady from Brittany

Henry Tudor wins, rowdy night with the ladies who follow the soldiers
Harry from York is born; too base born to be recognized

Henry's mistress was an aristocrat... one does not acknowledge a prostitute
none the less Hal is an aristo

does that mean I must stop playing with my mino guillotine. I t was going to be so handy t get rid of the OOs

unfair

I don't think Hal will fall off the wagon for some reason...Somebody said on another blog that they think he drinks the blood so the other vamps don't suspect anything..I can't see him after 50 years of not drinking blood and last week's ep trying so hard not to kill alex, it doesn't seem right that he'd just give up.. Think the blood's gonna make him go a bit mental though, maybe he'll kill someone but get sorted out by Annie and tom and be back to normal by next week's ep.. I don't know, I need to see it!! :(

I would love it if Hal is not low born and was a high ranking member of the York family. Perhaps born on the wrong side of the blankets. It would account for his superior attitude in addition to the normal Vampire one.

43. Jo, I like your way of thinking. We all know how good BH is at misdirects.

Okay i've watched it five times. I think im gunna sit on the sidelines for a while and see what the clever and whitty people have to say on the subect :)

Aquamarine-jo and emma.....going by Cutler's remarks to the bobby 'what do you mean tidied up?' he comes across as ignorant of vampires and how they 'deal' with things

@Saint - think you're gonna need a bigger guillotine!

Hal's grin truly evil. And so in control despite the fact he's arrested and sitting in a prison cell! DM is truly nailing the role of Hal.

Hmmmm, Nick Cutler and Nancy both mentioned Masons with regards vamps and the police.
Look what happened to Cutler!
*pondering*

Hal York.................

*starts singing*
"The grand old duke of York, he had 10,000 men he marched them all to the top of the hill and he marched them down again......."

So Hal had been caught before. But normally they 'tidy it away'. What do they mean 'tidy away'?
and What happened to the other lawyer who had been before Cutler (last time Hal was caught)
What happened after Cutler went in the cell? Hal drink from him? or talk to him about recruitment?

I seriously hope that we actually see Hal recruit Cutler, will be interesting to see.
Sorry If im being silly, but do we know how vamps recruit in the BH world? Is it the human has to drink vamp blood or does a vamp bite the human (like in Twilight)?

@59 Henry Tudor was a Lancastarian,- he married Elizabeth of York
Hal could have just been in (or around the city of York)

Thanks for the happy birthdays - you're all very very lovely! (yes I've had a drink) (or two...)

Fleem - Hi! I suspect it's wishful thinking but Toby does like to mess with our heads so I just wonder if we've missed something. Something does give Cutler a chip and a mission though - and that really just has to be Hal.

I keep getting the dreaded green box. I was starting to think i'd missed a trick there, just for a moment, but now i know exactly what everyone was on about :/ Oh well I've watched the clip 5 times now :P I shall resolve to watch what everyone else has to say :) as i'm not feeling very clever or whitty myself tonight.
Speak to you soon chaps.

Apparently, I'm one of the descendants of King Henry VII's Bastard child- according to my uncle, not sure if it's true though..


Would love Hal to be some how related to royalty, it just fit's with him :P

Lycurious has tweeted again: "Sorry, just bumped into an old friend! Now where were we, ah yes...#werewolvesarereal"

So Hal took a bite out of Culter?

Got to say Damien rocks the old fashion clothes.

@62. Fleem, I think Jo@43 may well be onto something. It's unlike BH to give us such a big clue before the episode. Could all be smoke and mirrors!

What if Hal is introduced to Cutlers wife and he recruits her and she in turn recruits Cutler?

I'm probably way off but it wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if BH are leading us up the garden path!

Im still swooning here, he's absolutley irresistable when he is evil.. I wonder if he watched Gary Oldman as Dracula before he did his Evil Vampire bit.

Most unlike me I don't do the fawning female as a rule.

Ive just looked on wiki at BH and clicked on DM name. Its got about what he's been in and then it says at the bottom of the page:
'He's 5ft 10'.
Who has gone up to hime with a tape measure and measured how tall he is? I did have to laugh when I read it!

What is the 'dreaded green box' i don't know what everybody's talking about :S

64 Hi Dorina!
It's just an idea - I like to think of what might be, keeps me occupied! Although Cutler does seem to be an extremely accomplished liar - first he'd heard of the werewolf video for example and to live anonymously as a vampire he would have to have a good cover.

It's probably all wrong though!, I'm just making it up as I go along!

im so interested to see why hal me little 'york'shire pudding (get it!) wanted to turn cutler. mabe it is because he needed a solicitor in the ranks.

mabe hal is the GRAND OLD DUKE OF YORK! thats why he is called lord. hmmmm. nursery rhyms are old and mabe its about him!

trying to think of a song for hal.something along the lines of,
the grand old duke of york
he had ten thousand men, blah blah and ate them.

anyone think of a good song???

My two-pennorth:

Hal doesn't know who his mother was, never mind his father. He's as base-born as you can get. Grows up in poverty in York, goes to sea (voluntarily or press-ganged), fights as a mercenary abroad, is badly/mortally wounded at the Battle of Orsha and takes up the army surgeon's offer of eternal life.

At some point after being turned he gets himself an education.
At some point either before or after being turned he takes the name of York because it was his hometown. The fact that it sounds quite distinguished fits in nicely with his post-vamp social climbing.

@Leanne (79) I can now only think of any song associated with Hal being sung in falsetto!

73 Saffz I know right!

I also seem to remember during the flashback of 1855 Fergus mentioning Richmond...which is in Yorkshire...i seem to think North Yorkshire off the top of my head. I could be hallucinating but didn't Fergus say something about going home or home leave at the time?

And Edward IV had an illegitimate son who would've been alive around the time of Hal's birth and later recruitment. His name was Arthur Plantagenet, Viscount Lisle, (1461/4-1542) He was married twice and had (legitimate) issue.

Just speculatin'..... ;)

81 - Hell Yeahh,

WARNING! POSSIBLE SPOILERS!

oh poo nerdyalice you already said what i said before me@65!

And who is to say that what Hal says to Leo in his prequel is the gospel truth...it probably is...but could he, would he say anything to get Leo on side?

Not saying that what i've said is truth, i just find it interesting that his surname is York that's all. I have a very fertile imagination and it shows :D

83. Hal-yeah *hangs head, shuffles off to corner*

76 @Lozzie_lo - I wondered the same about Michael Socha! Oh his wikipedia page it says he's 5ft8 (173cm). Kinda made me laugh, wondering where on Earth that info came from.

@lizzy t 80- you could be right about him taking the name york because if he didnt know who his mother was then he wouldnt know his last name would he? so he prob did make one up for himself.

79. See 66! We have the same idea!

Ode to the Lord of York

The grand old(very old) Lord of York,
He munched 10,000 men,
He killed them with his fangs,
Then killed some more again.

And when he was good he was good
And when he was bad he was bad
And when he was neither good or bad
He was rather OCD!!!

@and we know he ran away as a sailor and God knows how Henry 8 his half brother was manic about a Navy. or>>> or...
have a look at the mysterious death of Arthur Tudor prince of Wales

could it be that far being born into a brothel, interesting details six whores, our posh vamp was a posh young prince, turned mistakenly
after being turned, effectively, possibly after a joust
the royal heir is fatally wounded, accidents happen and a vampire indeed saves his life... at a cost
arthur henry york, runs Away to sea far from britain
the army surgeon was a bland lie
the man who should have been king and powerful
the renaissance prince who played the lute

why did I miss that clue, a child raied into a brothel woud not have been taught the lute

83 @Rebecca omg yes! can you imagine Hal on Mad Men lol.

Seen quite a few comments about how cool Hal is despite being arrested, surely he's not really arrested that cop was talking to Cutler in a weird way not like a real cop. He must be a vampire cop like Herrick was, they've spotted Cutler's potential and got him to set up the meeting.. He has to do what Hal tells him!

82. I actually thought Richmond, Surrey but Yorkshire works too =P

@88 Great clip Rebecca! Thank you!

88 - I fall more and more in love with Hal with every episode, Dont know how im gona cope waiting for a very possible series 5

In my primary school our 'houses' were named after royal houses- I was in York and the colour was red! Red shield :) I kind of like the idea of Hal being an illegitimate royal but as has been said he didn't know his parents....

@91 I love it

Are we sure he was born in England? Cant remember if it said that in his history - if so then the mercenary story is the only route to the Battle of Orsha - otherwise could be be Russian or Lithuanian? Not with that accent I know but after 500 years whats gonna stick!?

Just rewatched (again). Two new things:

1. Would love to know how many times over the four BH series the phrase "it's complicated" has been used!
2. As this is late 40's/early 50's - surely pretty poor form for a solicitor to be about his business with his top button unfastened (though I guess uniquely Hal was more relaxed about that kind of thing then vs now)